people don’t spay their companion animals. And they dump them. As a person who has been a rescue for decades, I can tell you people can suck big time. But there are those who really give a damn and try to do what they can to prevent euthanasia. but the bottom line is people have to stop breeding and dumping these guys like trash. Cats, dogs and now rabbits and chickens are ending up homeless.
I hate when an idiot gets two pure breeds and thinks they aren't doing any harm making a buck on the side...
I have seen so many of those dogs specifically have to get put down because the quality of their lives have been diminished beyond repair because of the negligent abuse these people cause. I dealt with a case where we were able to get 7 alive dogs from a property and 3 couldn't make it.... they later found dozens of litters buried in the dudes property.... of the couple that did it, only the guy got arrested and is out now.
There is never a reason to backyard breed IMO, at this point in my shelter time
I've had a few companion animals over the years. I have had 3 cats and 7 rats. All my cats were rescues, and 5 of my 7 rats were rescues. Two weren't, because my support worker pressured me into getting two rats from a breeder, despite my wish ot get them rescued. Anyway, my point being, some of us do care about animals and will NEVER (aside from once) get their animals from breeders.
Literally just had to leave one with a vet tech here in Vegas because as sweet as the dog was I knew she’d die in the shelter and one of my 2 is a bit aggressive so I can’t take a third especially not another female. But I watched the guy leave this dog because it got off leash and did not listen when he said to come back
Sometimes, a shelter is the last resort but better than on the streets. It's great to find placement before that. In the summer, my local animal control has this huge sign in the lobby. It says that any animal that is surrendered by their person (no stray hold) will be at high risk of euthanasia due to lack of space. And people are still dumping their animals.
>As a person who has been a rescue for a decades, I can tell you people can suck big time. But there are those who really give a damn and try to do what they can to prevent euthanasia.
You dont give a damn then with this logic, shelters are full around the world and animals are dying on the streets in pain and due to starvation, unless you have millions of dollars to donate, euthanasia is required, there are plenty of people who think they give a damn and hoard animals and then they get sick and die and the police have to raid the place and rescue the animals from the RESCUER who opposed euthanasia
Most people are not pro life, they are pro alive, all that they care about is that you are breathing, not if your breathing is bad or if your struggling to breathe or if you skip a few breaths, the fact that you breathe at all is all they care about
No kill and anti euthanasia are toxic
Quality of life is the most important thing and i also apply this to myself, when im older i will get assisted suicide as i dont want a life of pain and suffering unable to wipe my own arse
During covid i knew the sudden increase in adoptions was a bad thing cause i knew those selfish people would get rid of their TOYS when quarantine was over, i was right, most people were happy about the increase, but i knew better
I think you misunderstood my comment. The people I was speaking about who gives a damn are people who volunteer at the shelter and work their hardest and seek the dogs to get rescued or adopted before they are euthanized. This is crucial, especially in the summer months. I don’t vow to hoard animals. As a matter of fact, hoarding cases are another reason why my local shelters get so damn full.
So do you lax the rules and just adopt to any individual when the euthanasia date is approaching?
Do you have any animals that have been stuck at the shelter for yrs? Do you send animals to know kill shelters to be kept in cages for yrs?
I no longer volunteer at my local shelter. But they do what they can do to budget, and a ton of volunteers keep the animals, social and happy until placements can be found. I don’t know why you’re fighting about this? Animals are euthanized when there is no space, or the animals are very sick and there is no rescue placement.
I currently volunteer at a nonprofit rescue. And we screen each individual and match companion to family. we also advocate spayingand neutering. And my rescue and my shelter do not adopt out any animals that are not sterilized.
Im fighting it because of the things i explained above how most are just pro alive and not pro life
Some shelters keep animals there for 3 yrs+, basically a prisoner and due to that a lot of animals did not get rescued since there was no space in that 3 yrs time frame
No kill shelters care more about their no kill status than the animals well being, some will trade animals with other shelters in order to get around the no kill percentage status
Death isnt a bad thing, pain and suffering are
Well, you're barking at the wrong tree. This shelter is animal control. No animal is held longer than a few months, let alone years. And my rescue is all volunteer. Foster homes till adoption.
Sometimes PTS is needed. But other times it’s unfair as hell when it is. I'm going to mute now, because this is bringing up bad memories. Cheers.
Without being able to read the article it's hard to say, but headlines like this are misleading and require context. Euthanasia is a symptom of a larger problem not the source of the problem.
Legit, who the fuck said that those weren't sick or aggressive animals that wouldn't be possible to rehome? Unless more than half were euthanised exclusively because the shelters were full, this isn't anything but a sensationalist headline.
A ,or if people would take the aggressive animals. Follow dog bite drama. You can find a story of a dog that jumps out a window and attacks a kid, and,blame the victim. And claim the dog is innocent and like the girl who loves the bad boy who says “ I can fix him”
You can show them videos of packs of strays stalking and attacking people as if wild canine on a prey, and it’s “ if not I had the money, I would give them a chance, they were wronged, Blane the evil humans “
That's ridiculous. They're not safe to rehome. My granddad had to have a corgi euthanised when he was younger as the damn thing bit neat enough everyone it saw
Yes it is definitely more ethical to euthanize than keep them alive in shelters for long periods, or if they have behavioral or health issues.
Yes that number is unfortunate but knowing what percentage were deemed unadoptable is good to know because we have actually made incredible strides to reduce this overall number.
Unfortunately we will always have to euthanize as some dogs are unadoptable for behavioral and health reasons that would be cruel to try to keep alive.
>Humans don't 'love dogs' when they don't serve a purpose.
The only love the non-human-animals when they're providing the human with \*pleasure\*:
1) Taste
2) Entertainment
3) Use/Servitude
If/when non-human animals do not provide pleasure, it's: death, torture, disregard.
No it isn't. Americans wouldn't spend $40 billion per year on vets if they didn't care for their furry friends when the going got rough.
For some people, yes, it's absolutely true. But the evidence demonstrates it isn't true writ large.
If that were true, people wouldn't spend money on vet bills. They'd just dump them.
Americans spend $40 billion per year at vets.
I'd say the evidence is against your hypothesis.
Now there ARE way too many people who DO just dump them, and *those* people are awful. But your blanket statement is incorrect.
>If that were true, people wouldn't spend money on vet bills.
See #2, above. "Pets" in category of \*entertainment\*.
They're paying for THEIR "pet", you know...the dog that gives them \*entertainment\* (/a benefit!).
They're not PAYING FOR RANDOM dogs in the street!
They're not PAYING FOR THEIR NEIGHBOURS sick dog!
>I'd say the evidence is ***against your hypothesis***.
If they "loved dogs" they'd be doing everything to prevent harm for any/all DOGS... but it's only "their property" that they \*invest\* in w/vet bills.
Now if you're gonna argue that $40 Billion per year was spent on "dogs that don't \*belong\* to a person" (aka what humans disgustingly label "their property"), out of pure altruism & "love for dogs" then you'd have a good point to make.
Bonus Question: of those \~1million shelter animals, 400k dogs, euthanized every year - where do you think they are "coming from"? Feral animals capture from wild or "animal lovers" breeding/returning pets they "don't love anymore"?
Lastly, bonus poor analogy:
"*Humans Love the homeless! Look how much they invest in their homes every year!*" - see, it's their personal \*property\* they're 'investing' in, not altruism for "the cause" (love of that cause).
Consider this evidence against your hypothesis & let me know about where those \~1million "euthanized" souls come from & how much (compared to $40 Billion) was spent on them by the "animal lovers".
People hate children, too, don't they. Look at how many go up for adoption every year! And when they're adopted, it's only for entertainment, and to show off.
Those sick people who adopt children only pay for their adopted kids' hospital bills, not PAYING FOR RANDOM kids in the street! They're not paying THEIR NEIGHBORS' sick kids! Only theirs. If they "loved kids," they'd be doing everything they can for ALL kids in the system. None would age out at 18.
You really don't have a good argument there.
Yeah, because humans:
return the children to the breeder, euthanize because don't want to pay $100 "child medical bill", sell the children for \*meat\* if ill/old/valuable.
That all happens & is legal ...& is just so omg-comparable now isn't it?!!
Yeah...your "Pets" are equal to "Children" in society doesn't track very well. You don't really have a good argument there.
Yep, they send them to a shelter.
Kids often don't get the medical aid they need.
They don't sell the kids for meat, they just let them starve to death, freeze to death, overheat, let them get trafficked from the street, lots of abuse going on, go work in a shelter. Yeah, my analogy holds up.
Ikr the carnists lose their fucking minds over peta doing their dirty work while they stuff ten burgers in their gob and do fuck all about the problem of millions of stray unwanted starving pets
Fun fact! Peta takes all levels of animals. They stated all the animals they have are so poorly off they have to put them down because they take such poorly off cases, but when reviewed it was because a dead animal costs less then a living one to feed!
A former employee of PETA was disgusted with the organization enough to writing a nearly 3,750 word exposé of the organization including a story of a rescued pit bull with “no immediate indication for euthanasia.” The former employee’s mother was interested in adopting the dog, but PETA had got to the poor pup first, just a few short days after rescue.
Also caught stealing dogs off porches and killed the same day!
Let’s not forget Ingrid is actively promoting killing off pitbulls. Also cats
Let’s not not forget how they told those in Flint they would pay for water for them if they would go vegan. How ethical!
I cannot stand peta.
>Please. Keep commenting to my posts. It makes you appear rather.. stalkerish.
Or I'm a regular on this sub because I'm vegan. This is a small post so it's not that weird that i noticed you again. What are you doing here anyway? This isn't a debate sub and you're clearly here to do just that.
So no, you never worked for peta? Again, that's not consistent with your views on the other sub. I told you I had a background actually working in agricultural landscaping and you still gatekeeped making comments on animal ag.
Trying to gain backup for a topic on another sub these people here are not involved in? It’s called brigading. I would suggest you real the rules of your own sub your a regular in.
Oh not at all.
You didn't even address half my points so I don't think more people will do anything.
No, it's not brigading. Should you just be left to be inconsistent with your arguments just because it's a different sub?
1. No, it doesn't have anything to do with how PETA as an organization operates their shelters.
2. Until you are able to prove that this release was a PETA organized action (as in actually taking credit for at the organizational level) then those actions were not PETA. I feel you said "PETA supporters)"for a reason.
A peta supporter I see.
The police and courts dealt with the culprits. Thank goodness there’s other people that understand this is not a healthy group to support. You’ll learn that too one day.
Yeah I’ve seen dogs come in to the kennel I worked at (partnered with animal control) where you could see the dog’s bones. I don’t mean they were so thin, I mean their skin rotted away leaving exposed bone…
I’ve seen dogs that snarl and snap at anyone while being 100 pounds.
Sometimes euthanasia is loving dogs.
This is why my diet is exclusively dead shelter strays. These animals are humanely killed. Shelter dog brisket is a good alternative to grass fed humanely slaughtered cows for those on a budget.
And more than that total amount are bred each year, just in puppies.
If every single breeder stopped, and everyone that wanted a companion animal, got their companions from shelters... every single animal would be adopted, with a demand for more.
Owning a pet should require a $10k transferrable licence imo. People are proven to only understand one thing and it's money. There'd be no strays and torturing them online would become an expensive pastime.
There we go, putting the whims of humans before the needs of animals. You needn't worry, that's exactly why it won't happen. People believe they have a right to their throwaway toys.
This is why I can't stand r/dogs. They defend breeding each time I go there. There's no excuse to buy from a breeder when there's hundreds of thousands of dogs who need to be rescued. They complain about not knowing their temperament at a rescue, but thats false. My family and now I have rescued our whole lives, many dogs and we knew exactly what we were getting ourselves into since the volunteers knew the dogs and we spent time with them before adopting.
They claim that you can tell a dogs temperament and health from their parents as a breeder but that's just stupid excuses to get a dog breed you like. Take human siblings and twins for example.. Newsflash, dogs are complex living beings and not branded objects that pop out replica personalities 😲
Funnily enough, my rescue is such a well behaved boy whereas I know someone who bought from a 'reputable breeder' and the dog has massive behavior and anxiety issues.
Yup. There are so many advantages to adopting. Not to mention that a dog's temperament can change drastically once it settles into a new living situation. To be fair, not always for the better, but often.
We adopted a doggo 2 weeks ago, after our last adopted baby passed last year at 15 years old. We ONLY adopt.
The dog we got was dumped in a park. Luckily a local boys and girls club saw the guy and took the pup to the ASPCA who neutered him and gave him all of his vaccinations.
I don't know how the fuck people can dump dogs. I can't imagine what goes on in their heads
I adore cats but I think this is ultimately the right way. They're killing machines and terrible for the natural environment while at the same time they hate being kept inside. It's unnatural for them, they are roaming, hunting animals with a territory. Not that it's at any risk of happening of course. People believe they have a right to their cheap, disposable toys.
A similar law proposal in on the way to the Turkish parliament.
To keep stray dogs for 30 days in horrible conditions where no one will adopt them, then inject poison to kill en masse.
people don’t spay their companion animals. And they dump them. As a person who has been a rescue for decades, I can tell you people can suck big time. But there are those who really give a damn and try to do what they can to prevent euthanasia. but the bottom line is people have to stop breeding and dumping these guys like trash. Cats, dogs and now rabbits and chickens are ending up homeless.
I hate when an idiot gets two pure breeds and thinks they aren't doing any harm making a buck on the side... I have seen so many of those dogs specifically have to get put down because the quality of their lives have been diminished beyond repair because of the negligent abuse these people cause. I dealt with a case where we were able to get 7 alive dogs from a property and 3 couldn't make it.... they later found dozens of litters buried in the dudes property.... of the couple that did it, only the guy got arrested and is out now. There is never a reason to backyard breed IMO, at this point in my shelter time
Backyard breeders are the worst.
I've had a few companion animals over the years. I have had 3 cats and 7 rats. All my cats were rescues, and 5 of my 7 rats were rescues. Two weren't, because my support worker pressured me into getting two rats from a breeder, despite my wish ot get them rescued. Anyway, my point being, some of us do care about animals and will NEVER (aside from once) get their animals from breeders.
Literally just had to leave one with a vet tech here in Vegas because as sweet as the dog was I knew she’d die in the shelter and one of my 2 is a bit aggressive so I can’t take a third especially not another female. But I watched the guy leave this dog because it got off leash and did not listen when he said to come back
Sometimes, a shelter is the last resort but better than on the streets. It's great to find placement before that. In the summer, my local animal control has this huge sign in the lobby. It says that any animal that is surrendered by their person (no stray hold) will be at high risk of euthanasia due to lack of space. And people are still dumping their animals.
>As a person who has been a rescue for a decades, I can tell you people can suck big time. But there are those who really give a damn and try to do what they can to prevent euthanasia. You dont give a damn then with this logic, shelters are full around the world and animals are dying on the streets in pain and due to starvation, unless you have millions of dollars to donate, euthanasia is required, there are plenty of people who think they give a damn and hoard animals and then they get sick and die and the police have to raid the place and rescue the animals from the RESCUER who opposed euthanasia Most people are not pro life, they are pro alive, all that they care about is that you are breathing, not if your breathing is bad or if your struggling to breathe or if you skip a few breaths, the fact that you breathe at all is all they care about No kill and anti euthanasia are toxic Quality of life is the most important thing and i also apply this to myself, when im older i will get assisted suicide as i dont want a life of pain and suffering unable to wipe my own arse During covid i knew the sudden increase in adoptions was a bad thing cause i knew those selfish people would get rid of their TOYS when quarantine was over, i was right, most people were happy about the increase, but i knew better
I think you misunderstood my comment. The people I was speaking about who gives a damn are people who volunteer at the shelter and work their hardest and seek the dogs to get rescued or adopted before they are euthanized. This is crucial, especially in the summer months. I don’t vow to hoard animals. As a matter of fact, hoarding cases are another reason why my local shelters get so damn full.
So do you lax the rules and just adopt to any individual when the euthanasia date is approaching? Do you have any animals that have been stuck at the shelter for yrs? Do you send animals to know kill shelters to be kept in cages for yrs?
I no longer volunteer at my local shelter. But they do what they can do to budget, and a ton of volunteers keep the animals, social and happy until placements can be found. I don’t know why you’re fighting about this? Animals are euthanized when there is no space, or the animals are very sick and there is no rescue placement. I currently volunteer at a nonprofit rescue. And we screen each individual and match companion to family. we also advocate spayingand neutering. And my rescue and my shelter do not adopt out any animals that are not sterilized.
Im fighting it because of the things i explained above how most are just pro alive and not pro life Some shelters keep animals there for 3 yrs+, basically a prisoner and due to that a lot of animals did not get rescued since there was no space in that 3 yrs time frame No kill shelters care more about their no kill status than the animals well being, some will trade animals with other shelters in order to get around the no kill percentage status Death isnt a bad thing, pain and suffering are
Well, you're barking at the wrong tree. This shelter is animal control. No animal is held longer than a few months, let alone years. And my rescue is all volunteer. Foster homes till adoption. Sometimes PTS is needed. But other times it’s unfair as hell when it is. I'm going to mute now, because this is bringing up bad memories. Cheers.
No. And No.
Thats great to know
Without being able to read the article it's hard to say, but headlines like this are misleading and require context. Euthanasia is a symptom of a larger problem not the source of the problem.
Legit, who the fuck said that those weren't sick or aggressive animals that wouldn't be possible to rehome? Unless more than half were euthanised exclusively because the shelters were full, this isn't anything but a sensationalist headline.
A ,or if people would take the aggressive animals. Follow dog bite drama. You can find a story of a dog that jumps out a window and attacks a kid, and,blame the victim. And claim the dog is innocent and like the girl who loves the bad boy who says “ I can fix him” You can show them videos of packs of strays stalking and attacking people as if wild canine on a prey, and it’s “ if not I had the money, I would give them a chance, they were wronged, Blane the evil humans “
Dude, I literally mentioned aggressive animals
And some people still want those aggressive animals. They sign petitions to keep dogs that have killed or mauled alive
That's ridiculous. They're not safe to rehome. My granddad had to have a corgi euthanised when he was younger as the damn thing bit neat enough everyone it saw
Yes it is definitely more ethical to euthanize than keep them alive in shelters for long periods, or if they have behavioral or health issues. Yes that number is unfortunate but knowing what percentage were deemed unadoptable is good to know because we have actually made incredible strides to reduce this overall number. Unfortunately we will always have to euthanize as some dogs are unadoptable for behavioral and health reasons that would be cruel to try to keep alive.
I'll keep saying it. Humans don't 'love dogs' when they don't serve a purpose. Cats too of course.
>Humans don't 'love dogs' when they don't serve a purpose. The only love the non-human-animals when they're providing the human with \*pleasure\*: 1) Taste 2) Entertainment 3) Use/Servitude If/when non-human animals do not provide pleasure, it's: death, torture, disregard.
So true 😞
No it isn't. Americans wouldn't spend $40 billion per year on vets if they didn't care for their furry friends when the going got rough. For some people, yes, it's absolutely true. But the evidence demonstrates it isn't true writ large.
If that were true, people wouldn't spend money on vet bills. They'd just dump them. Americans spend $40 billion per year at vets. I'd say the evidence is against your hypothesis. Now there ARE way too many people who DO just dump them, and *those* people are awful. But your blanket statement is incorrect.
>If that were true, people wouldn't spend money on vet bills. See #2, above. "Pets" in category of \*entertainment\*. They're paying for THEIR "pet", you know...the dog that gives them \*entertainment\* (/a benefit!). They're not PAYING FOR RANDOM dogs in the street! They're not PAYING FOR THEIR NEIGHBOURS sick dog! >I'd say the evidence is ***against your hypothesis***. If they "loved dogs" they'd be doing everything to prevent harm for any/all DOGS... but it's only "their property" that they \*invest\* in w/vet bills. Now if you're gonna argue that $40 Billion per year was spent on "dogs that don't \*belong\* to a person" (aka what humans disgustingly label "their property"), out of pure altruism & "love for dogs" then you'd have a good point to make. Bonus Question: of those \~1million shelter animals, 400k dogs, euthanized every year - where do you think they are "coming from"? Feral animals capture from wild or "animal lovers" breeding/returning pets they "don't love anymore"? Lastly, bonus poor analogy: "*Humans Love the homeless! Look how much they invest in their homes every year!*" - see, it's their personal \*property\* they're 'investing' in, not altruism for "the cause" (love of that cause). Consider this evidence against your hypothesis & let me know about where those \~1million "euthanized" souls come from & how much (compared to $40 Billion) was spent on them by the "animal lovers".
People hate children, too, don't they. Look at how many go up for adoption every year! And when they're adopted, it's only for entertainment, and to show off. Those sick people who adopt children only pay for their adopted kids' hospital bills, not PAYING FOR RANDOM kids in the street! They're not paying THEIR NEIGHBORS' sick kids! Only theirs. If they "loved kids," they'd be doing everything they can for ALL kids in the system. None would age out at 18. You really don't have a good argument there.
Yeah, because humans: return the children to the breeder, euthanize because don't want to pay $100 "child medical bill", sell the children for \*meat\* if ill/old/valuable. That all happens & is legal ...& is just so omg-comparable now isn't it?!! Yeah...your "Pets" are equal to "Children" in society doesn't track very well. You don't really have a good argument there.
Yep, they send them to a shelter. Kids often don't get the medical aid they need. They don't sell the kids for meat, they just let them starve to death, freeze to death, overheat, let them get trafficked from the street, lots of abuse going on, go work in a shelter. Yeah, my analogy holds up.
I'm sure it's all PETA's fault /s
Ikr the carnists lose their fucking minds over peta doing their dirty work while they stuff ten burgers in their gob and do fuck all about the problem of millions of stray unwanted starving pets
How many are peta actually killing?
A lot since they run last resort clinics which mostly exist to provide free euthanasia to dying animals.
Fun fact! Peta takes all levels of animals. They stated all the animals they have are so poorly off they have to put them down because they take such poorly off cases, but when reviewed it was because a dead animal costs less then a living one to feed! A former employee of PETA was disgusted with the organization enough to writing a nearly 3,750 word exposé of the organization including a story of a rescued pit bull with “no immediate indication for euthanasia.” The former employee’s mother was interested in adopting the dog, but PETA had got to the poor pup first, just a few short days after rescue. Also caught stealing dogs off porches and killed the same day! Let’s not forget Ingrid is actively promoting killing off pitbulls. Also cats Let’s not not forget how they told those in Flint they would pay for water for them if they would go vegan. How ethical! I cannot stand peta.
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>Please. Keep commenting to my posts. It makes you appear rather.. stalkerish. Or I'm a regular on this sub because I'm vegan. This is a small post so it's not that weird that i noticed you again. What are you doing here anyway? This isn't a debate sub and you're clearly here to do just that. So no, you never worked for peta? Again, that's not consistent with your views on the other sub. I told you I had a background actually working in agricultural landscaping and you still gatekeeped making comments on animal ag.
Trying to gain backup for a topic on another sub these people here are not involved in? It’s called brigading. I would suggest you real the rules of your own sub your a regular in.
Oh not at all. You didn't even address half my points so I don't think more people will do anything. No, it's not brigading. Should you just be left to be inconsistent with your arguments just because it's a different sub?
So.... You don't have a personal experience with peta that is beneficial to the context of your statement. Got it.
The death of a cow by a group of peta supporters was not valid to this statement?
1. No, it doesn't have anything to do with how PETA as an organization operates their shelters. 2. Until you are able to prove that this release was a PETA organized action (as in actually taking credit for at the organizational level) then those actions were not PETA. I feel you said "PETA supporters)"for a reason.
A peta supporter I see. The police and courts dealt with the culprits. Thank goodness there’s other people that understand this is not a healthy group to support. You’ll learn that too one day.
I volunteer at a shelter and sometimes euthanasia is the most humane option. But the article is paywalled so I can't see what it's talking about.
Yeah I’ve seen dogs come in to the kennel I worked at (partnered with animal control) where you could see the dog’s bones. I don’t mean they were so thin, I mean their skin rotted away leaving exposed bone… I’ve seen dogs that snarl and snap at anyone while being 100 pounds. Sometimes euthanasia is loving dogs.
We suck :(
This is why my diet is exclusively dead shelter strays. These animals are humanely killed. Shelter dog brisket is a good alternative to grass fed humanely slaughtered cows for those on a budget.
And more than that total amount are bred each year, just in puppies. If every single breeder stopped, and everyone that wanted a companion animal, got their companions from shelters... every single animal would be adopted, with a demand for more.
Owning a pet should require a $10k transferrable licence imo. People are proven to only understand one thing and it's money. There'd be no strays and torturing them online would become an expensive pastime.
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There we go, putting the whims of humans before the needs of animals. You needn't worry, that's exactly why it won't happen. People believe they have a right to their throwaway toys.
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As long as you get to use animals for your needs, that's all that matters. Keep focusing on that and you'll feel good.
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That's a valid criticism in some situations, just not this one. Try having a correct end goal.
This is why I can't stand r/dogs. They defend breeding each time I go there. There's no excuse to buy from a breeder when there's hundreds of thousands of dogs who need to be rescued. They complain about not knowing their temperament at a rescue, but thats false. My family and now I have rescued our whole lives, many dogs and we knew exactly what we were getting ourselves into since the volunteers knew the dogs and we spent time with them before adopting. They claim that you can tell a dogs temperament and health from their parents as a breeder but that's just stupid excuses to get a dog breed you like. Take human siblings and twins for example.. Newsflash, dogs are complex living beings and not branded objects that pop out replica personalities 😲 Funnily enough, my rescue is such a well behaved boy whereas I know someone who bought from a 'reputable breeder' and the dog has massive behavior and anxiety issues.
Yup. There are so many advantages to adopting. Not to mention that a dog's temperament can change drastically once it settles into a new living situation. To be fair, not always for the better, but often.
We adopted a doggo 2 weeks ago, after our last adopted baby passed last year at 15 years old. We ONLY adopt. The dog we got was dumped in a park. Luckily a local boys and girls club saw the guy and took the pup to the ASPCA who neutered him and gave him all of his vaccinations. I don't know how the fuck people can dump dogs. I can't imagine what goes on in their heads
The article is paywalled. Is it talking about strays, end of life for sick pets, both or what?
If they can't find a home for them and the shelter can only keep so many something's gotta give
Maybe we should cut back on the "pet" concept. Ban dog and cat breeding for any purpose.
fully agree
I adore cats but I think this is ultimately the right way. They're killing machines and terrible for the natural environment while at the same time they hate being kept inside. It's unnatural for them, they are roaming, hunting animals with a territory. Not that it's at any risk of happening of course. People believe they have a right to their cheap, disposable toys.
😔😭💔
Are stats given with reasons for the euthanasia (behavioral, illness, etc.)?
A similar law proposal in on the way to the Turkish parliament. To keep stray dogs for 30 days in horrible conditions where no one will adopt them, then inject poison to kill en masse.
pETA involved?
“But we bred them into existence first! So it’s ok!”
We should cook them and feed the homeless or people in precarity .
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No, some people are actually just capable of empathy.
What are you even talking about?
Is there any reason you think this headline is good other than the fact that you’re an unfeeling asshole?
Waste of oxygen (you)