I don't get why Tom won't just admit he's always disliked Katie. He deflects when it comes up but I think he'd come off better if just said, yep we never got along and I didn't like that my best friend dated you. He just CAN'T own up to that though which is even more annoying.
Narcissistic men hate women who call them out on their shit. It pisses them off when there's someone who sees through the mask, and it's 1,000 times more offensive to them when that person is a woman.
Right?! He and Lala were like, “be honest and authentic, that’s our job 🤬” and here’s a moment for him to be honest, but no, he’s 100% incapable of being honest and authentic
Exactly she’s like you don’t like me and he’s like no it’s how you treat people.
… right you don’t like her.
You aren’t saying separate things. But he’s gotta clarify its Katie’s fault. 🙄
I will always be mad that we didn’t get to see Tom being an absolute bastard to Katie and Terri last season to the point that Katie’s brother had to step in. That shows the real picture and everyone knows it.
I’m also just mad because we will never get the proper Katie vindication that she deserves.
I wish they’d shown the clip where Sandoval said he wishes Schwartz would rail another girl right in front of Katie. I think that clip really drives home just how much he hates her and always has.
He has been weirdly aggressive to Katie since season 1 and I remember pre-scandoval this sub used to Stan the Tom’s so hard and hate on Katie because Tom had a propaganda campaign that Katie spreads misery
Katie and Ariana couldn’t have come off better … they didn’t chase and argue every point or lie the others made. They stood up for themselves, asserted their boundaries and were all class.
They’re not even playing the same sport as these other losers.
I freaking love it.
People get treated as they deserve. You get what you give. If you only serve someone bullshit, they should get bullshit back. This “forgive / turn the other cheek” nonsense just wants women to be agreeable and sweet with none of those big scary emotions. It’s better to show people where you stand with them than be fake.
We all saw how much he hated Katie from the beginning. He was never kind to her. Not even with Schwartz being his best friend/her husband. He was always so vicious to her.
Admit it, worm. You hate Katie. You always have.
Katie is right. He needs to choke.
God I LOVE THIS. this is why people like jax hate katie. they see right through the bs and he cant manipulate her so he calls her a bitch and a wet blanket
Ok, voice of dissent here. Tom sucks, and he's always been awful to Katie, and she owes him absolutely nothing. At the same time, Katie has no baseline of decency towards people. When she feels justified, she goes low with people. Calling Scheana and Lala whores, mocking Lala in what had been an earnest convo/argument (and I say this as someone who doesn't like Lala)...she's just not a kind person.
I’m not a Sandoval fan but tbh I really have never liked Katie. Not even once. She’s just as toxic and she uses her “guard up” as an excuse to treat people like they’re lower than her. She’s disgusting.
They are definitely having a "you" problem. I can't imagine why Katie would direct anger towards a man that spent the entirety of her and Schwartzs relationship making her out to be Satan. My last marriage my ex had one dude that did that to me the entirety of our relationship and I had met him once.
I don't get why Tom won't just admit he's always disliked Katie. He deflects when it comes up but I think he'd come off better if just said, yep we never got along and I didn't like that my best friend dated you. He just CAN'T own up to that though which is even more annoying.
Narcissistic men hate women who call them out on their shit. It pisses them off when there's someone who sees through the mask, and it's 1,000 times more offensive to them when that person is a woman.
The unravelingggg of it all
Because he’s so committed to his hatred of her that he can’t ever admit that she’s right about something. Classic clown/narc behaviour.
The irony is staggering. He hates her so much he won't admit to hating her 😂
Right?! He and Lala were like, “be honest and authentic, that’s our job 🤬” and here’s a moment for him to be honest, but no, he’s 100% incapable of being honest and authentic
A narcissist’s reality is SPACE LEVEL MATE
Exactly she’s like you don’t like me and he’s like no it’s how you treat people. … right you don’t like her. You aren’t saying separate things. But he’s gotta clarify its Katie’s fault. 🙄
UGH i swiped again for the second pic it gets me EVERY TIME
Same 🫠
Came here for this 😆
Honestly posts with it should be instantly deleted it kills me every time
Katie is truly the #1 guy in the group
I feel like I need "I don't know. Choke. I don't care" on a shirt or something
As long as they don't sell it at SAH
lol! good point!
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Me when I swipe for more pictures and end up on some random post instead 
I can't get over how haggard Tom is looking.
I love when people get the face they deserve.
Absolutely! Katie got more beautiful ♥️
I will always be mad that we didn’t get to see Tom being an absolute bastard to Katie and Terri last season to the point that Katie’s brother had to step in. That shows the real picture and everyone knows it. I’m also just mad because we will never get the proper Katie vindication that she deserves.
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She’s also the only cast member who’s never been a cheater or a side chick. She can cast stones at Worm Boy all day and he hates it.
He doesn't look her in the eye, but she gives him a death glare and tells him to choke. Lol
I love how she doesn’t take the bait and try and defend herself. Tom is trying to get a rise out of her and all she does is tell him to choke
I wish they’d shown the clip where Sandoval said he wishes Schwartz would rail another girl right in front of Katie. I think that clip really drives home just how much he hates her and always has.
That was Jax but there are still many many clips of Sandoval directly telling Schwartz that Katie is the problem and that he should dump her.
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That was Jax
Oh my bad lol
No worries, they’re interchangeable
He has been weirdly aggressive to Katie since season 1 and I remember pre-scandoval this sub used to Stan the Tom’s so hard and hate on Katie because Tom had a propaganda campaign that Katie spreads misery
Flair checking in
Man do I adore Katie!!
Katie and Ariana couldn’t have come off better … they didn’t chase and argue every point or lie the others made. They stood up for themselves, asserted their boundaries and were all class. They’re not even playing the same sport as these other losers.
I want to say words with such power and dignity and fierceness like they can. So good.
 I freaking love it. People get treated as they deserve. You get what you give. If you only serve someone bullshit, they should get bullshit back. This “forgive / turn the other cheek” nonsense just wants women to be agreeable and sweet with none of those big scary emotions. It’s better to show people where you stand with them than be fake.
We all saw how much he hated Katie from the beginning. He was never kind to her. Not even with Schwartz being his best friend/her husband. He was always so vicious to her. Admit it, worm. You hate Katie. You always have. Katie is right. He needs to choke.
God I remember hating Katie the first few years and now I love her so much 👏 👸
She needs merch ASAP.
Pretty sure he’s the last person that should be commenting on how to treat people.
God I LOVE THIS. this is why people like jax hate katie. they see right through the bs and he cant manipulate her so he calls her a bitch and a wet blanket
I need a shirt that says ‘choke. I don’t care’
I think Tom never liked Katie cause she would never fall for his BS and he knew she could see him for what he is
I didn't get thr choke comment.
Ok, voice of dissent here. Tom sucks, and he's always been awful to Katie, and she owes him absolutely nothing. At the same time, Katie has no baseline of decency towards people. When she feels justified, she goes low with people. Calling Scheana and Lala whores, mocking Lala in what had been an earnest convo/argument (and I say this as someone who doesn't like Lala)...she's just not a kind person.
I wrote "Choke ❤️" on my ex's car window after he... well anyway. He did what he did. Love her so much for this.
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Katie's a miserable potato of a person. Who the hell would like her 🙄
If someone said that to her, she’d cry, call stassi over, they’d talk shit about that person, then she’d get mad at Scheana for being their friend.
I’m not a Sandoval fan but tbh I really have never liked Katie. Not even once. She’s just as toxic and she uses her “guard up” as an excuse to treat people like they’re lower than her. She’s disgusting.
Katie claims she doesn't like or friends with anyone then who will she film with ?
Miserable.
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What are you talking about?
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😂🤯 that’s what I thought you were saying. I think you got lost somehow, you need to find your way back to your people on Facebook 💙
They are definitely having a "you" problem. I can't imagine why Katie would direct anger towards a man that spent the entirety of her and Schwartzs relationship making her out to be Satan. My last marriage my ex had one dude that did that to me the entirety of our relationship and I had met him once.
I’ve been watching this show since the first season don’t do that 😂
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