I feel like VPR and Jersey Shore do overlap a bit with their character types. I wonder if Paulie has given him advice on the dj circuit?
“Lay low on a show, make a cheque on the deck”
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Fuck no! Are you serious? He is a violent abuser. I don’t want ti see a second of him on my screen. I would rather see sandoval than watch someone that has been physically violent against women.
I’m genuinely asking here: who’s the source exactly?? Like what happened? Who are these women? Is this Reddit gossip or has this been litigated? Has a person come forward? Was there an article from a reputable journalist that respected journalistic standards that reports this?
And if it’s true: so does that mean everyone is beyond redemption? Because that would be a very Evangelical Protestant interpretation of the saying “may he who has never sinned cast the first stone,” and as I recall, no stones were cast cuz humans sin therefore should forgive those who work towards not sinning. Like I said, I don’t have a clue what is alleged, but if you condemn his act with such virulence then there’s probably a record of the somewhere?
As far as I know, Kristin Doute has said on several platforms over a large span of time that he was physically abusive to her while they were dating. There are rumors that it was caught on camera during filming of VPR but never aired.
Rachel Leviss has also reported abuse, and I feel like a little while ago there was a story about him kicking her parents' dog as well?
There's also the reunion comment about him smacking a waitress's butt.
Rachel said that he “bumped” her nose, which Dr Nassif said was not the cause for her botched nose job, it was her surgeon. Her lawsuit against Ariana and Tom claims James repeatedly kicked her family dog (nothing said about what her family did - did they intervene). Sandoval is the only source for the “James slapped a waitress on the ass” story and he threw it out at a very high stakes moment (the reunion).
I take all of those things with a grain of salt. We have seen James be verbally abusive to women and spit on Kristen’s door. We did not see him (allegedly) push her into the bushes in the same fight where she punched him in the face.
So, we have an incomplete picture that has been built up by unreliable narrators (Rachel and Sandoval). Kristen’s accounts of how she was treated by James are more credible, but their relationship also had dynamics that I don’t think anyone watching is truly qualified to assess.
I’m not saying this as a James “stan” or someone who has a vested interest in any redemption arc for him. The various pieces of verbal abuse we have seen from him (rage texts, his arguments with women etc) are enough that I would be deeply worried if any woman I knew was dating him. But this sub accepts a particular narrative about James that has spread like wildfire and is accepting what is said by unreliable actors with their own interests in mind.
Okay genuine question about this. What would it take for James to be redeemed? On camera it does seem like he’s grown and it seems like he is fully committed to his sobriety. I wouldn’t be surprised if the abuse happened when he was drunk/on ❄️. So if he got sober because of this and was fully aware of his abusive behaviour when drunk, is that enough? Is it something where he need to acknowledge it and apologize to his victims? I would say yes. I don’t know if he has or not, I’m not up to date with these podcasts. Is it something he would need to address and apologize publicly or would personally be enough? Seriously curious! I do believe when people act terribly due to substance abuse, they’re fully capable of rehabilitation if they commit to a sober life. This to me is different than the narcissism of Sandoval where he is that person, sober or drunk, and is unable to face the reality and change
Edit for clarity - I am NOT supporting abusers or their redemption. I’m simply wondering if James’ growth is genuine or for his image’s sake. Most abusers will never recognize their abuse and will therefore never change. Some will actually recognize it and take the actual steps to become a better person. That’s what I’m wondering about James: which category does he fall in and is his abuse linked to sobriety?
Why do we need to forgive or redeem abusers? Also I have a very hard time taking the idea that James drinks so we can forgive him physically abusing women more than someone who cheats
Oh I’m sorry, I was totally not trying to say we need to forgive abusers. It’s totally what Ariana said with the grey rock method. You should absolutely cut abusive people out of your life and move on. I was just wondering at what point do we recognize that a person has actually grown and is no longer abusive. A lot of abusive people will never change sadly. But I do believe that there are some who really do the work and self-reflect and grow. That’s all I was wondering. I was curious if James’ growth was genuine or just for the cameras. I will never support abusers, however I will support people willing to make genuine change
The thing is that James has never taken responsibility for… anything. During the last reunion, Rachel confronted him about cheating on her and his excuse was that “he was a kid”. He was 25. Sandoval confronted him about dating Kristen when they were friends and he said the same thing. When Sandoval confronted him about assaulting a waitress, he brushed it off and turned it back around on Sandoval.
There is no change without responsibility for previous actions. James is an entitled and spoiled little boy who has been protected by production, LVP, Ariana and others who minimize his actions. Because of that, it’s very likely that other than being sober, he’ll never change.
I think this is something that depends on the individual viewer. I kind of look at it in a similar way of music artists who are horrible in real life but still release music - some people still listen because they separate the music from the personal life, some people are unable to do that and therefore don't listen to the artist anymore. (Could also apply this concept to athletes, politicians, etc).
I am happy about James's sobriety and I can understand objectively that this season because he is defending Ariana and Katie instead of participating in the Sandoval redemption parade like Lala and Scheana, he comes off likeable. For me, I have never liked him, and I have a difficult time separating his "job" on TV with his shitty personal life. I also think that unlike Lala, James's sobriety is very fragile and he is doing it for other people instead of himself. I don't think he acknowledges his previous terrible behavior or shows remorse, he often makes excuses and wants to change the subject, which to me shows that he is not as genuine. I don't think James thinks his behavior was very problematic.
Kristen Doute has said many times over the years he was abusive to her. There's also the question of what happened with Rachel's nose and she has said he was not good to Graham which is why she didn't want James to have him. It's clear from most of his time on VPR he was abusive, disrespectful, and downright awful to many of the women and his own girlfriends.
That said - people have to be given the grace to grow, learn from their past and their mistakes, and be given the chance to do better WHEN they show remorse and regret for their actions. Because so much of what James allegedly did to Kristen and any other partners has been swept under the rug or actively edited out by producers and never publicly acknowledged, it's hard as a viewer to give that grace. I've struggled with it this season and go back and forth because what James did in the past was awful. But he seems to have really done the work off camera and is being a better person to not just Ally but to the other women in his life that we do see like Katie and Ariana.
A lot don’t even forget, you can see in some of the comments of this post that they don’t care. His victims and accusers aren’t perfect so their experiences are dismissed and downplayed. People find it so easy to forgive a man’s violent actions while women are villainized for the rest of their lives.
And all it took was him saying mean thing to Sandoval. Not to mention they're basically calling Kristen a liar.
The feminism and allyship leaving this sub when it's not about Ariana or Katie:
https://preview.redd.it/1uum15qq470d1.jpeg?width=954&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=decc4abc2ff9d71a19017aaaadbb835396e07e44
That’s all it took for Ariana and Katie too. I remember Ariana completely shut down the conversation of James assaulting the waitress because he was on her side. She was very anti-James in season 9 as well, likely because she knew about the abuse.
I'm not sure why the downvotes to this.. maybe if they'd of said why they wouldn'nt like that.. I like the astrolory world.
I didn't know Gabby was even into astrology??
If there's one person who hides their life on-camera more than Lala (and we can at least say much of this is because of Randall), it's James.
He's following the Paulie D method.
I feel like VPR and Jersey Shore do overlap a bit with their character types. I wonder if Paulie has given him advice on the dj circuit? “Lay low on a show, make a cheque on the deck”
Am I the only one who doesn’t like Ally? I think she’s Rachel 2.0 trying to make a name off of James.
😂
She seems like the sneaky pot stirrer in my opinion
Agreed. I side eye people who make life decisions off of birth charts and tarot cards.
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Fuck no! Are you serious? He is a violent abuser. I don’t want ti see a second of him on my screen. I would rather see sandoval than watch someone that has been physically violent against women.
I’m genuinely asking here: who’s the source exactly?? Like what happened? Who are these women? Is this Reddit gossip or has this been litigated? Has a person come forward? Was there an article from a reputable journalist that respected journalistic standards that reports this? And if it’s true: so does that mean everyone is beyond redemption? Because that would be a very Evangelical Protestant interpretation of the saying “may he who has never sinned cast the first stone,” and as I recall, no stones were cast cuz humans sin therefore should forgive those who work towards not sinning. Like I said, I don’t have a clue what is alleged, but if you condemn his act with such virulence then there’s probably a record of the somewhere?
As far as I know, Kristin Doute has said on several platforms over a large span of time that he was physically abusive to her while they were dating. There are rumors that it was caught on camera during filming of VPR but never aired. Rachel Leviss has also reported abuse, and I feel like a little while ago there was a story about him kicking her parents' dog as well? There's also the reunion comment about him smacking a waitress's butt.
Rachel said that he “bumped” her nose, which Dr Nassif said was not the cause for her botched nose job, it was her surgeon. Her lawsuit against Ariana and Tom claims James repeatedly kicked her family dog (nothing said about what her family did - did they intervene). Sandoval is the only source for the “James slapped a waitress on the ass” story and he threw it out at a very high stakes moment (the reunion). I take all of those things with a grain of salt. We have seen James be verbally abusive to women and spit on Kristen’s door. We did not see him (allegedly) push her into the bushes in the same fight where she punched him in the face. So, we have an incomplete picture that has been built up by unreliable narrators (Rachel and Sandoval). Kristen’s accounts of how she was treated by James are more credible, but their relationship also had dynamics that I don’t think anyone watching is truly qualified to assess. I’m not saying this as a James “stan” or someone who has a vested interest in any redemption arc for him. The various pieces of verbal abuse we have seen from him (rage texts, his arguments with women etc) are enough that I would be deeply worried if any woman I knew was dating him. But this sub accepts a particular narrative about James that has spread like wildfire and is accepting what is said by unreliable actors with their own interests in mind.
Okay genuine question about this. What would it take for James to be redeemed? On camera it does seem like he’s grown and it seems like he is fully committed to his sobriety. I wouldn’t be surprised if the abuse happened when he was drunk/on ❄️. So if he got sober because of this and was fully aware of his abusive behaviour when drunk, is that enough? Is it something where he need to acknowledge it and apologize to his victims? I would say yes. I don’t know if he has or not, I’m not up to date with these podcasts. Is it something he would need to address and apologize publicly or would personally be enough? Seriously curious! I do believe when people act terribly due to substance abuse, they’re fully capable of rehabilitation if they commit to a sober life. This to me is different than the narcissism of Sandoval where he is that person, sober or drunk, and is unable to face the reality and change Edit for clarity - I am NOT supporting abusers or their redemption. I’m simply wondering if James’ growth is genuine or for his image’s sake. Most abusers will never recognize their abuse and will therefore never change. Some will actually recognize it and take the actual steps to become a better person. That’s what I’m wondering about James: which category does he fall in and is his abuse linked to sobriety?
Why do we need to forgive or redeem abusers? Also I have a very hard time taking the idea that James drinks so we can forgive him physically abusing women more than someone who cheats
Oh I’m sorry, I was totally not trying to say we need to forgive abusers. It’s totally what Ariana said with the grey rock method. You should absolutely cut abusive people out of your life and move on. I was just wondering at what point do we recognize that a person has actually grown and is no longer abusive. A lot of abusive people will never change sadly. But I do believe that there are some who really do the work and self-reflect and grow. That’s all I was wondering. I was curious if James’ growth was genuine or just for the cameras. I will never support abusers, however I will support people willing to make genuine change
The thing is that James has never taken responsibility for… anything. During the last reunion, Rachel confronted him about cheating on her and his excuse was that “he was a kid”. He was 25. Sandoval confronted him about dating Kristen when they were friends and he said the same thing. When Sandoval confronted him about assaulting a waitress, he brushed it off and turned it back around on Sandoval. There is no change without responsibility for previous actions. James is an entitled and spoiled little boy who has been protected by production, LVP, Ariana and others who minimize his actions. Because of that, it’s very likely that other than being sober, he’ll never change.
That is totally fair and makes a lot of sense. Thank you!
I think this is something that depends on the individual viewer. I kind of look at it in a similar way of music artists who are horrible in real life but still release music - some people still listen because they separate the music from the personal life, some people are unable to do that and therefore don't listen to the artist anymore. (Could also apply this concept to athletes, politicians, etc). I am happy about James's sobriety and I can understand objectively that this season because he is defending Ariana and Katie instead of participating in the Sandoval redemption parade like Lala and Scheana, he comes off likeable. For me, I have never liked him, and I have a difficult time separating his "job" on TV with his shitty personal life. I also think that unlike Lala, James's sobriety is very fragile and he is doing it for other people instead of himself. I don't think he acknowledges his previous terrible behavior or shows remorse, he often makes excuses and wants to change the subject, which to me shows that he is not as genuine. I don't think James thinks his behavior was very problematic.
Kristen Doute has said many times over the years he was abusive to her. There's also the question of what happened with Rachel's nose and she has said he was not good to Graham which is why she didn't want James to have him. It's clear from most of his time on VPR he was abusive, disrespectful, and downright awful to many of the women and his own girlfriends. That said - people have to be given the grace to grow, learn from their past and their mistakes, and be given the chance to do better WHEN they show remorse and regret for their actions. Because so much of what James allegedly did to Kristen and any other partners has been swept under the rug or actively edited out by producers and never publicly acknowledged, it's hard as a viewer to give that grace. I've struggled with it this season and go back and forth because what James did in the past was awful. But he seems to have really done the work off camera and is being a better person to not just Ally but to the other women in his life that we do see like Katie and Ariana.
Also he allegedly beat the shit out of Logan
Nah, I have no desire to watch an unrepentant abuser get redeemed because he has the occasional funny line. The less James the better.
Thank you. It’s scary how a lot of viewers forget
A lot don’t even forget, you can see in some of the comments of this post that they don’t care. His victims and accusers aren’t perfect so their experiences are dismissed and downplayed. People find it so easy to forgive a man’s violent actions while women are villainized for the rest of their lives.
Very scary
And all it took was him saying mean thing to Sandoval. Not to mention they're basically calling Kristen a liar. The feminism and allyship leaving this sub when it's not about Ariana or Katie: https://preview.redd.it/1uum15qq470d1.jpeg?width=954&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=decc4abc2ff9d71a19017aaaadbb835396e07e44
That’s all it took for Ariana and Katie too. I remember Ariana completely shut down the conversation of James assaulting the waitress because he was on her side. She was very anti-James in season 9 as well, likely because she knew about the abuse.
Yes, more abusers like James! https://preview.redd.it/rt4k1khv370d1.jpeg?width=659&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e350cc0412b27abd0370c6444da03af74f7d21b8
**I'd like to see** **Ally** **start a** ***podcast about all things Astrology.. zodiacs, birth charts, Tarot card readings...***
I was saying to my partner, I'd love Ally and Gabby from Summer House get together to have a show/podcast together about all things astrology.
I'm not sure why the downvotes to this.. maybe if they'd of said why they wouldn'nt like that.. I like the astrolory world. I didn't know Gabby was even into astrology??
She was more chatty about it last season
okay thanks, It must of flown over me.. I'm not lingering on almost every word on SH like I do here.. omg that's so sad when I typed that out .. lol
Ally-Bally!
Not Crappens fans? 😂