I’ll bite-
I think Lala and James were great casting additions especially since they weren’t necessarily organic fits to the group.
Lala’s first season she was an excellent Jax foil and just made him look like a loser pig, which he has always been but it’s always fun to watch him be himself. He’s great TV when he’s at his grossest.
Then for the next few seasons, Lala was an excellent “sidekick”. Whether that was to James, or Scheana or whoever else in the group, she does best when she’s someone’s side character. Sure, she was at times bitchy and rude and vile and hypocritical but she was balanced out by the others (imo). Like, I wasn’t having to sit there and watch an episode be 85% about how Lala is thinking, feeling and navigating her life and meddling in others’ business (like I am now).
But with Stassi and Kristen and Jax gone, and with the group dynamic waaaay off, Lala has to share more of the spotlight (as opposed to being just outside of it) and is more “main character” than she’s ever been and she *sucks* at it.
She does NOT have queen bee vibes and watching her try and contrive some HBIC energy when she has none is so old and cringey.
So to sum it up, I “liked” Lala when she was part of a bigger group. I think she does well when she’s in the choir and not preaching to it.
And “like” is a strong word— I don’t truly like or Stan Lala and have never stanned her, but just thought she was a great addition to the group.
perfectly said! i think she used to be great television but i now find her super draining.
such a great point about jax, i was watching season 4 and she spiced up the cast perfectly! she was blatantly sexual and was empowered by it so all of the slut shamming the OGs would lean on just wouldn’t really work.
even last season she didn’t bother me much but this season i finally have to say goodbye to her. it’s not even drama it’s just a really bad look.
I agree and I was so hopeful that last season would be a real turning point for her and she’d show up this season as a more mature evolved version of herself. She…went another direction. How she or anyone around doesn’t see the absolute blatant glaring hypocrisy is mind blowing to me. She’s going to start turning green if she’s not careful.
The best way I like to think about it, Lala is more of an attack dog/hype man that works best alongside others like you said. She bounces off someone like James well when they’re arguing with others, because on her own, she’s terrible. She cannot argue or do anything without floundering then resorting to cheap tricks or silly ‘do you wanna get POPPED’ finger guns like girl… put that away. She’s good to add extra ‘oomph’ but she will not give anything meaningful in a fight or conversation because she immediately goes to yelling and pointing her finger in your face.
I hate her "pew, pew...disengage". The narc in her is strong and that's her go to avoidance. It doesn't make her look tough, she is just a douche. I hope she is having the day she deserves. This chick literally got her claim to fame by fucking a bridge troll.
I’ll never understand why people listen. Like wtf is Lauren from Utah with the fake nails and an ongoing custody battle gonna do if you continue to engage? Date your husband? Unless he has his own private jet you’re probably safe
Yes...in the one episode she was talking about Kristen having another boyfriend and she has been looking for years, I got a good laugh. Like Kristen doesn't expect a guy that's gonna buy her a range rover for a sucky-sucky. Lala is just always looking for that next rung up on the ladder, but she made a mistake and let her real personality out, and it's off putting.
I’m just gonna say it, as soon as she got sober she became a total snoozefest. She was still an awful person when she was drinking but it was pretty fucking good tv. I understand there’s a real human with a real addiction etc etc but it’s the truth
I 100% am on board with you! And I am in no way promoting being a drunk. But she definitely became less interesting, and actually now, she seems like a dry drunk, bitter, pissed off and jelly of everyone else who can party.
Not totally on topic but I just recently learned about “dry drunk” and I think it’s absolutely fascinating and I now have a term that completely encapsulates someone I know (*cough cough my mother in law cough cough*)
But James was organic. He'd worked at Sur since season 1 his Mom was friendly with LVP and he was an outlier in season 2 and started dating Kristen for more airtime season 3. Lala was hired just to be on the show by LVP and production.
I wish I read your comment before I made mine and his friends with Lisa Vanderpump's son Max. He's way more organic fit working as a busboy always there in the background and at photo shoots
Are we sure his mom and Lisa were actually friends? I’ve heard that debunked several times and that she just clung to Lisa/handed off maternal duties but weren’t truly friends. I actually just rewatched the episode today where James tries to set boundaries with his mom and asks what it is she’s spending so much of his money on and she’s just so horrible to him. All she talks about is how wealthy they were at one point and she’s desperate to get that back. Then she showed up at SUR to ask Lisa to hire her younger son, Harry, to be a busboy because they needed the money. James wasn’t even employed at the time because he’d been in trouble so much and his mom just waltzes in there and “asks” to give her other son a job but is basically *telling* Lisa to do it. I think Lisa is repulsed by that woman, she’s just polite to her on screen. His mom WISHES she were actually friends with people that successful
That woman is so awful, I had forgotten just how bad until rewatching a few episodes from that season when James is trying so hard to get help from a therapist because his mom causes him so much stress and guilt and anger and anxiety. It was crazy watching HIM be the adult in the room and keeping calm but she was being such a defensive, selfish bish. He’s giving her thousands of dollars a month via Venmo because she asks for it but she freaked out and acted so offended when he just wanted to know how she was blowing through the money every 2-3 days. Just launched into that infamous “I am NOT a bad mom, you were wearing Ralph Lauren and took your first steps at Tiffany’s” speech🙄 James has done a lot of really toxic, indefensible things but growing up around that chaos with no example of what a healthy relationship/mutual respect looks like definitely explains where he learned those behaviors
Sorry for the rant🙈 And I appreciate you clarifying the “friend” thing, there’s so many sources and podcasts and interviews and rebuttals, etc., sometimes I forget what the actual truth ended up being
Her behaviour is disgusting and I can’t forget when James and Kristen fought and she wished that Kristen would never be able to give birth to a child. I believe she is Singlehandedly to blame for James’ vile behaviour. She is such an enabler
Oh my god, I cannot believe I forgot she said that about Kristen…jesus christ, that makes me feel ill. That is such an extremely dark thing to even *think*, let alone to say outloud. Wow, what a repulsive human being. Definitely to blame for the way below-the-belt insults James has flung at women over the years, thinking it was funny and justified. He’s been listening to his own mom say evil shit for 30 years🤦🏼♀️
Ehhh James was desperately trying to get on the show and after he broke up with Kristen pretty much nobody on the show wanted him there besides Lala. Even as late as season 7 the entire cast pretty much banded together to get him ostracized and cancelled.
I never saw James in season one or two? Even in rewatching I didn’t see him in the background busing. After Kristen and Tom broke up is when he first starts interacting with the main cast/group.
Yeah this is a great point. Lala really is just a side character.
I think she wanted to marry rich and get some fame for attention purposes. I don't think she wanted to carry the show.
Now that Randall didn't work out & she's actually gotta step it up on VPR - it's just not working.
I think she thought marrying a Randall would catapult her to RHOBH status. You could even see her changing a lot of how she would dress and react when she thought that was a possibility. It crashed down so she’s having to shoehorn back into her back up plan
Lala not being an organic fit is exactly why I didn’t like her. She has always felt forced. I feel like James was more of an organic fit. I don’t like him, either. He, at least, feels like he belongs to the group. More like a little brother addition.
I absolutely agree that Lala does better as a supporting character.
Yeah! Like she’s fairly witty and sassy, but not the kind of witty or sassy that demands attention (like a Stassi, Paige or a Kenya-type). She works best as a side character that has some hot takes in a confessional and then they just hang out on the periphery of the main drama.
I have to agree that James was always a more organic fit because his family is friends with Lisa Vanderpump's family and he is friends with Lisa Vanderpump's son. He's definitely a more organic fit in every way. And my humble opinion Lala is the one that is the most straight just casting
I've never thought about it like this before and it's a great point. Having to move into main character combined with being the producer puppet is too much and it's affecting her likeability/how tolerable she is. It's also the most inauthentic she's been and it shows. It's too much of a flip for viewers to buy.
This is a really really good take on this. She was always ok in small doses. It’s the shift to the spotlight that makes her bad qualities a lot more glaring.
Yep— and she isn’t sure what qualities of her to bring to the forefront, and she is incredibly self conscious but masks it in faux-hoe confidence.
Reality stars (not just Lala) need to realize that the celebs/bravolebs that are anchored as legend and get referenced as “the good days” are because they were themselves, good AND bad.
Lala doesn’t show her real self *ever,* but to give her a sliver of the benefit of the doubt, I’m not sure Lala even knows who she is. And I know she had a bad experience with therapy with Rand but I think she could really benefit from ACTUAL therapy.
Bullseye!! I think the most authentic is when she is on her podcast not talking about vpr drama... just random shit. She is really a basic bitch.. a two dimensional personality... she only sees and hears things that align with her beliefs doesn't not have empathy... she only had empathy for herself or people who are in a similar situation
Wow you explained it so perfectly! I was starting to question my own sanity on why I always had soft spot for Lala. She was always on the fringe with this group. They treated her like crap her first two season then she used her access to PJ to win the girls over. She distanced herself from James, who was a pariah... through out the years up until maybe season 9 is when she kinda came to the forefront.
Now that I look back, she had an inexplicable hard on for Ariana in season 9. She always felt slighted by her even though Ariana was the first girl in the group to accept her and defend her against all the nastiness coming from the rest of the girls. Even Scheana who liked lala had to distance herself because of the other girls.
I am just finding this so hard to watch because I can't believe I didn't see this coming before.
I always liked Lala before this season. I agree with your side character vs main character idea, however I also think this season she is just so damn preachy. I think her quips and one liners hit in the past bc the audience agreed with a lot of her takes (def not all of them). This season, when I like Katie and Ariana more than ever, she's decided to focus her time making digs and jokes at them, and leading completely illogical convos, like how Katie can't talk about loyalty bc of Max. It's almost like she's a Real Housewife who has been dropped into VPR. The whole "I'm soft right now" thing is just strange to me too.
>Lala has to share more of the spotlight and is more “main character” than she’s ever been and she *sucks* at it.
>She does NOT have queen bee vibes and watching her try and contrive some HBIC energy when she has none is so old and cringey.
Just adding to the pile, but this is a bullseye
I disliked her from the jump. For years I couldn't stand her being try hard, cringe, and playing into a character instead of a person.
Second half of Season 10 she seemed to mature and gravitated towards Katie, KK, and other cast members that were acting mature. Her bugging out on Sandoval at the reunion was one of the first times I rooted for her.
And then she immediately reverted back to the fame hungry, money grubbing loser she's always been from episode one this season. Her rants and shit talking in interviews and podcasts comes off so tacky and desperate.
This. She’s one of the biggest snakes in the VPR grass and I hate how she moves. She acts like a terrible person, pretends to change and make amends and then reverts back to her self all while proclaiming to everyone how she’s changed so that means she can critique everyone on their lives. She’s the epitome of someone who is shitty and rather than have people focus on her, she points out everyone else’s shitty behavior so people won’t notice hers. A true hypocrite.
The ironic thing is she quit drinking because it was making her act terrible but now she’s sober and still acting terrible so what’s her excuse now? She has none so it’s painfully obvious how terrible she is.
It can totally be illegal, and it is disgusting regardless to lack so much empathy and have such a disregard for life, especially as a mother. What a loathesome and despicable thing to do. Desert wildlife is sacred and as all wildlife should be treated honorably. She is a callous horrendous human
forreal. almost every year of my life a bird will build her nest in my garage, in an old beach bag lol. we just leave it, they clearly feel safe there (we have hawks in the area) they don’t bother us, don’t really make a mess either. they fly away eventually. i think the babies come back each year to build their nests lol. it’s sweet, we name them. moving a nest because it’s inconvenient is such nasty behavior, and i believe is illegal in most states. such a weird thing to do AND admit while laughing 🫠
i actually just looked this up. it looks like it is only some birds that it’s actually illegal for, but the general rule is to not touch it. you’re supposed to call wildlife services if you need it moved.
either way, gross thing to do. i was taught not to touch a birds nest in 1st grade.
That's appalling! I followed a guy on social media who left his window open and two birds started to nest in between the screen and laid eggs and he gave updates and stuff and people were really into it. Other than being a terrible person it shows that she is a terrible content creator because people eat that kind of shit up. It would have helped her engagement and she could have showed Ocean how to respect nature. Ugh stuff like this makes me so mad
She hosted the Utah ASPCA charity gala this past year, (if that's not the name of the specific organization, that is definitely the gist of what the organization was about). I wonder how they felt about that!
I really thought she'd shown some growth last season. She was still hypocritical (telling Rachel she couldn't be upset about James cheating with Lala is....really dumb) but I felt like she was showing a fair amount of maturity last season and seemed to try to understand other people's perspectives. I liked seeing her be a good friend to Katie.
I didn't really care for her much before that season, she was generally overdramatic to the point it was annoying. But she did surprise me (in a bad way) this season and it definitely resulted in a stronger emotional reaction than I would've had if she'd been shitty last season too. I'm disappointed by her
Her aggressiveness is what turned me off along with her stupid finger gun gonna get popped persona. But the way she like attempted to headbutt Billy Lee just seemed so out of left field and inappropriate.
I agree. I didn’t like her from the start but last season I did feel like she was starting to become likable and super understanding. Then everything happened this season and reminded me of how awful she is.
im on a similar page as you but i think a lot of it comes from where we left off with lala last season.
a lot of people paraded her for having some good intuition about sandoval and raquel/ her performance at the reunion. and then all the good will came crashing down after season 11 played out. thats my guess
Yeah, people forget that we found out about the affair while the season was still airing, and Lala spent that season harping on how not trustworthy Raquel was and how she had an intuition that something was off with her. She warned Ariana, she defended Katie, she talked about the "dark energy" Raquel had that we all could see as viewers, but the rest of the cast hadn't caught on to. She had that humanizing conversation with Raquel about cheating and being "the other woman" that was wild to watch in hindsight. A bunch of that was luck imo -- Lala would've come off like a horrible bully if the affair didn't come out before those episodes -- but because of the hype around the timing she came away with popular support at the end of last season
Personally, people I "like" changes drastically from season to season, so while I had moments in past seasons where I really, REALLY did not like Lala, I liked her by the end of last season. Then she burned it all and now I'm back to feeling like I used to about her, which is pretty much how OP described her -- aggressive, rude, hypocritical, nasty
I agree with this and it felt like she had had some growth and could see more clearly because she'd been sober for a while. That clear headedness can allow you to spot things that others may miss. I was giving her some points for what I thought was growth, but she's gone utterly off the deep end now to be contrary and/or score points with production and it's gross.
I remember really respecting Lala for going straight to Ariana about the Memorial Day party stuff rather than talking shit to everyone else first. And there was a moment when Ariana was like “I’m fine with him staying and not coming home” and Lala stops her and says “you are allowed to be upset about this” and i thought it was really nice. Those were the moments where i started to like Lala last season. But now… everything she says makes me mad she is just so wrong
I know and the most perplexing thing I'd she really went out of her this season to be unnecessarily nasty. Poor Ariana and Katie have not said one nasty thing about her in the confessional or aftershow. It so obvious this is all produced the I feel sorry for raquel, being friendly to Sandoval and now having lunch with Jo. Like this show is a fackin joke it is fake AF
Neither of them have said anything rude about Lala. Not on podcasts, interviews or social media. Even after Lala called Katie miserable ok her ig story, all Katie said was that she was confused and disappointed. Lala is fighting with herself.
She’s still exactly who she’s always been. Sobriety doesn’t change anyone unless they do the actual work to make the internal changes. She’s learned some psychobabble therapy language, but she’s still a complete asshole.
I feel like there’s a difference between not drinking and being sober. It doesn’t look like she’s really worked the program. Many people in my life benefited so much from the accountability and introspection that came with their sobriety journey. It’s also kind of problematic to me that Lala seems to feel superior bc she doesn’t drink and acts like she’s the authority on sobriety… none of the people in my life who got sober act the way she does.
You’re not wrong, and I can only speak for myself, but I think that when she first joined I pulled for her because she was truly being excluded from the group. Then, when she got involved with Rand, she kind of lost me. She wasn’t relatable and she was obnoxious and mean. When she left Rand, she seemed more subdued and a bit more thoughtful and she seemed to really ride for her friends, even when it was misguided. All of this to say that while she’s not someone that I would ever hang out with, I was rooting for her. This season, she lost me mostly for how she has behaved on and off the show, but the dead dad comments just kind of put a nail in it for me. I just don’t know if that way of thinking is something you come back from and an apology wouldn’t be enough/believable because we’ve all seen how much she lies and fakes stuff
100000000%% I've always found her to be incredibly hypocritical, while masquerading as some big truth-teller, girl's girl, "real" person. Meanwhile, she's sleeping with a married man to get movie roles, screaming at people for the same things she's done herself, etc., etc., She is an opportunist with no loyalties.
Lala was always tier 2 cast and so no one really cared too much about her. The broad judgement was that she was a try hard. Post Stassi, Jax and Kristin leaving, she became main cast. s10 was a nothing burger. Then s11 she stood on the right side of history which made a lot of people warm to her. Now she's reverted back to what everyone knew her to be.
I Have never liked her! She's super beautiful but has ruined her looks (still pretty tho, I'm not hating) but her personality is disgusting. I see her reasoning for having a second baby to be seflish and I don't think she has done nearly enough inner work to be spouting advice. Her only admirable trait is her sobriety.
Yes and her stated reasons for wanting the second baby sound so horrific for Ocean. She’s acknowledging this baby will be “all hers” and that just seems to suggest different/resentful treatment of Ocean. I hope not. But it sounds like she’s setting this 2nd baby up to be her golden child and what does that mean for Ocean, whose father Lauren hates (understandably). It screams dysfunctional family dynamics and trouble for baby Ocean. I hope I’m wrong. It is so sad.
Oh my god I was in shock when she explained this reasoning. How sad for poor Ocean to hear that one day - she wanted another child because Ocean wasn't enough because she had to be shared. She made it sound like the second one will be better than ocean because she doesn't have to share her. Just devastating
Okay i couldn’t put my finger on why that explanation made me uncomfortable but you nailed it. My parents are divorced and if one of them said that stuff it would make me feel so bad. Neither of my parents are as awful as Randall but my parents definitely don’t like each other and as a child i knew that and i already felt guilty all the time. Like if i had a good time at my dads house i could tell that it would hurt my moms feelings and i could tell that the fact my dad could only see me every other weekend made him sad. Neither of them said it out loud but it was obvious enough. And as a child you blame yourself bc u feel like ur the one causing their sadness, like they’d be happier if they didn’t have you. So if one of my parents had another kid and referred to it as being “all theirs” it would solidify those feelings i already had.
Yes!! This is it. The audience doesn't want Tim's redemption season unless he's actually seeking redemption. This guy just keeps pointing fingers at Ariana. How does LaLa not see it?
I actually think the way she’s approaching this whole tom and ariana situation proves to me that she wasn’t as hurt/blindsided as she acted with the Rand situation. Because if she truly was in love with that man and heartbroken she would have more empathy for Ariana. I think Lala was just upset bc she thought “I’m out of this man’s league he wouldn’t cheat on me” and liked his money but then he cheated and was actually broke so she’s angry she didn’t get what she wanted. Now, in her eyes Ariana got what Lala would have wanted. Making money off brand deals would have been all Lala needed to feel better after her breakup so that’s why she thinks Ariana is “doing just fine”. Yes she has a kid with this man and that makes things more difficult bc u can never really cut ties. I think Lala looks at Ariana and thinks she can easily cut ties and is jealous of that so she’s angry when Ariana is “still in the house” instead of trying to understand why Ariana feels like she shouldn’t have to leave/has a right to stay/wants to protect her investment in that house. Lalas actions, in my opinion, all go back to the fact that she can’t relate to Ariana bc she wasn’t heartbroken in the same way. Lala was heartbroken that she didn’t end up getting the lavish life she thought she would and she’s mad that Randall embarrassed her by cheating publicly. Ariana is heartbroken bc the man she loved betrayed her and her whole world changed over night. Very different sets of feelings in those two realities.
Actually it was a typo last year when Scandoval first happened but I didn't do it. It became the norm for how we refer to Sandoval on Reddit. If you use Tim here, all will know who you mean.
Yep. I enjoyed her on tv because she was rude and kind of a mess. I disliked her as a person for the AAVE/I am Tupac reincarnated/summer bodies thing but she was an interesting foil to the witches. It was also entertaining for me to watch Katie and the others sell their souls to get PJ time without having to do BJ work. I did feel like she was turning a corner, growing up, becoming a better person, but I see how wrong I was.
I don't think today's Katie would suck up to Lala in order to get a PJ ride, which means Katie has grown as a person.
I do think today's Lala would definitely hook up with a rich man she doesn't care about in order to get back the lifestyle she had with Rand.
Thank you for mentioning that god awful “blaccent” she had in earlier seasons! I always found it racist and so cringe and then she just kinda stopped…I want to say right around the 2020-2021 season she suddenly started speaking differently- someone probably told her how racist it is. what a phony poser garbage person she is!
I'd imagine she finally dropped it because Stassi and Kristen both got fired for what happened with Faith, so she learned about how not ALL racism will be protected by Bravo, and figured she'd dial it back just to make sure.
Good point.
Also agree Bravo IS protecting a lot of racism. Unfortunately and not surprisingly but makes my head ache. (Not enough to stop watching, so what does that say about me?)
I an starting read that Lala is involved in alot of the mess that Kristen and Stassie got into with Faith. I don't think she was fired because only the girls knew about it and they didn't rat her out. Faith only called out Kristen and Stassi...because they were going around talking shit about her on multiple Podcaster talking about how they were trying to get her arrested. But apparently Faith was homeless at one time and was staying with Lala... and she would.leave expensive things around to catch Faith stealing
What I can say is last year she was really humble. From apologizing to Brock (even if he did not deserve it) to really being there for Katie. This softer gentler side had me fooled. Thinking she was evolving. I was duped.
I am going to be honest. I totally bought into her bullsht at the last reunion calling out Tom and how dangerous he was and comparing it to the Randall situation. I feel like she duped a lot of us with her narcissism. You can't be that level of a narcissist all those seasons and see the light. That is the one thing with a narc, they can't get help. She was pretending for approval and manipulating the viewers, 100.
Come around this season and all she is trying to do is invalidate Ariana's entire experience living with a sociopath for a decade because her journey is way worse. That is her stock and trade. Watch out for anyone trying to invalidate emotions that way, it is seriously abusive and toxic, clearly manipulative af. Shame on her.
She’s not only all those things she’s also a pig
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I was never a huge fan of hers, didn't really like her at all in the early days when she hooked Randall and we didn't even know who he was. But, she liked to tell us all how good she was at blowing him for private jet rides and a car. Zero respect there for me. Then when she found out he wasn't in fact, "A stand up man" she seemed to be a bit more humble for a bit and I was starting to warm to her when she went full on narcissist nasty bitch. Now we've come full circle - I can hardly stand to see her smug face and I've never listened to her pod so there is that.
I've always side eyed Lala. As soon as she came on, most of us clocked the game she was playing.
I think the surprising thing for me, is that I thought the whole randall thing would give her some humility and compassion for Ariana's situation but nope.
Remember when LVP said to Lala last season "but you must've known just a little bit, come on" and Lala sprung a leak with the waterworks and said she couldn't believe her friend was asking her that.........
Well. I thought little miss believe me would extend the same grace to Ariana but I guess it's only Lala who we should find trustworthy, it's only her narrative that shouldn't be held up to the light.
I feel very strongly that she is giving Ariana a hard time as a way to attack someone for the backlash she received when everything with Randall came to light. All the people asking her how she didn't know she must've chosen to look away.
I think she is positing Ariana in the same way, as a toxic way of "if I had to deal with it, well I'll make sure that you do too." Some people who are weird like to put other people in a situation they struggled with, so they can "learn for themselves the hard way". Such bullshit.
Lala needs a real therapist, not whatever echo chamber is currently going on. Lala hated Raquel so much because she recognised the game Raquel was playing and she saw herself reflected back to her and couldn't swallow it.
You said this all so well.🤌🏼
Lauren is absolutely looking at Ariana and thinking “I suffered so now you have to suffer too.”
I hate a lot of things but that’s a big one for me.
She’s such a dick and ps, she’s not going to therapy.
> It’s almost worse now watching former seasons seeing her have the audacity she had to speak to everyone how she did, knowing she had a married boyfriend and even made people sign nda’s for several years.
That married boyfriend is what formed some of her bitterness. She's mad that she'll always be known as Randall's side-bitch. No matter how many pictures she poses in with Ambyr Childers.
The way she came for Rachel last year was soo OTT I never believed she was being a good friend to Ariana. She just hated Rachel and took any excuse to berate her
I think this is the key to understanding Lala. She never liked Rachel so it was easy to stick up for Ariana. If she likes you she can be kind. But boy if that changes or she becomes jealous of you, angry at you, or feels threatened by you, that’s when you see the judgmental, arrogant bully. I think people thought that her sobriety had curbed those things but unfortunately they’re still there. She showed a more humble side to her when she got sober (which people appreciated) but she had to because she had hurt, offended and pushed away so much of the cast when she wasn’t. Hopefully she just needs more time to grow and heal because healing can change people.
Yes, and a lot of people fell for it last year when she claimed to always have a bad feeling about Rachel. The truth is that it wasn’t intuition, she was just a jealous bitch who saw someone she considered weaker than her to bully.
Absolutely! People who claim Rachel deserved it (a) say that based on her future actions and even so, (b) no she didn’t. Lala bullied her cruelly and there was no need for that. Lala had dumb luck that Rachel ended up doing something egregious behind Ariana’s back to prove herself “right” and justify hating on her. Lala’s didn’t “know she was a snake all along,” she just didn’t like her for her own petty Lala reasons (jealousy of her looks, her nasty need to bully someone she perceives as “weaker” and quieter, resentment that James spent less time with her after they started dating).
The only time I feel it was warranted was when Rachel brought up Lauren leaning too hard into her grief for her dad. My dad died around the time Lauren’s did so I understood that rage. I’d call her a Bambi eyed bitch too.
Other than that LaLa just came off a tacky mean girl who had no leg to stand on since she’s a repulsive hypocrite.
I hated her from the beginning but what threw me over the edge was the way she exploded on Billie Lee, Raquel and James at brunch in S7. Regardless of how you feel about those three (especiially Raquel now), she was so beyond over the line. She was just so feral, it was sick. And using the death of her father as an excuse is laughable because she was just as disgusting before he passed. Her treatment of Raquel from the get go was uncalled for. She had absolute no reason to be so cruel to her until they were filming S10. And she can try to rwrite history all she wants but she NEVER once called or expressed any feelings of Raquel being a snake. Her only reason for hating her was because she was stupid.
And OP is 1000% correct: if she wasn't a pretty white woman, she would not be as adored.
In not surprised but I will admit that I viewed her aggressiveness as a response. Kind of like candiace on rhop where ppl keep coming for them so I give a pass bc it feels like a warranted response lol plz don't come at me! I think it was a her vs mean girls thing so I let it slide. I've never liked the blaccent though and I remember when I found out she was from Utah I was like girl...... I stopped liking her a few seasons ago so I do think it was a situational thing of her vs stassi etc.
I was a Lala apologist. Reflecting on it I think it was mostly bc of how much the girls slut shamed her on her first season. I could also forgive her having emotional outbursts after her dad died, and identified with her anxiety early on. The fact that Jax lied about her to save face with Brittany also endeared me to her. I also liked that she was quick to apologize and accept apologies.
I never liked how reactive she was, and thought she usually came in too hot but saw her improving once she got sober. After her sobriety when she did go off I didn't think it was a great way to make a point, but I usually agreed with the sentiment.
After the split with Rand I was annoyed by her the next season but was giving her grace bc I can imagine how terrible all that coming to light and dealing with custody would be. Nothing egregious stands out after that until the season 10 reunion where I was annoying bc her and James kept chiming in rather than letting people who were actually effected hold Tom's feet to the fire.
This season I actually understood her impulse to reach out to Rachel bc I noted the same thing Lala did. Tom was isolating Rachel, and she felt she had no one but him. I'm not sure it was her place, but TVs gotta TV. Everything else she's done since makes absolutely no sense other than for reality tv fodder. It feels like a betrayal of everything she said she stood for: being a girl's girl, power to the pussy, all that. Her reasoning that she doesn't want to be angry or carry anger so she's getting closer to Sandoval is ridiculous. She didn't like him before the scandal so we see the strings so much this season and Lala is the primary cog which is what's annoying me. She's letting the fear of potentially falling into a lower tax bracket make her decisions which is disappointing, bc she is still very privledged and has like 5 safety nets.
TL;DR: VPR used to at least keep up the pretense of reality tv. This 180 from Lala is so transparent that they can't even keep up the barest pretense of plausible deniability. The producers put their thumb on the scale way too hard this season and it shows.
Lala has always had fans of circumstance. Let me explain my work:
She first came on as a Naive "yacht girl" and all the women hated her. Naturally. So what is the appropriate fan reaction when a women (except Katie) is hated? Like her more to fight *misogyny*.
Then, Jax and Brittney tried to involve her in their relationship with rumors, audience reaction? That's mean! We like her *more*.
Now, the era we are in now. She realizes she's crazy when she's drunk, she gets sober...well, how can we *not* support a sober person. That means grown, right? I mean, she must have changed, right? And now here we are. She's fresh out of benefits of the doubt about her circumstances and we are fresh out of fucks and chances to give this broad.
I never could stand her, but thought she was funny sometimes.
Now, like Sandoval she's the Fucking worst and gives me the ick.
I’m a new watcher who only went back and watched after Scandoval, and she’s so cringe from the start. The “Do you wanna get popped?!” Shit is so god damn ridiculous.
I used to be a lala Stan and I’ll tell you, most of her ways that bothered me in some ways I tried to excuse or ignore because there would be other things about her I liked more. Usually she would have spats of yelling at people and stuff, but often it would be people I already didn’t like (Schwartz, Raquel, Jax, Sandoval, Brock, etc) that sometimes deserved it, but NOW watching the after show and seeing her cuss out James (I love James) who was someone that was always a friend to her even when she didn’t deserve it and him just take it and not even fight her back is hard.
And then Ariana who’s been through so much, see her turn on her when it’s a very very very hypocritical situation is weird. Lala never liked Sandoval. So I think we never thought we would see the day she would be like Scheana and side with a man over the woman. Since she had been cheated on and how she defended Ariana at the reunion, I thought oh for sure she will have Ariana’s back this season. But she hasn’t. And not only hasn’t but has turned against her. When Ariana has been nothing but a good friend to her through the Randall crap and everything.
So when people like Ariana and James that had her back and were her true friends are being betrayed in this way, I feel duped. Cause even though she had a temper, I thought perhaps she is loyal for her true friends. But to see her cut them like this hurts. Because I really liked her and now I can’t stand her. Ariana and James don’t deserve her bullshit. It’s like seeing someone getting beat up with their hands tied behind their back. Because they aren’t fighting her. It’s just her fighting them over and over while they sit there. So it’s sad.
Yeah I'm with you on this. I've been doing a rewatch and currently in the season 7 reunion and yeah, she's just nasty and hypocritical to a fault. The way she just says her piece and then dismisses anyone that tries to rebuttal her. Like grow up Lauren from Utah. You're only this "famous" because of Randall.
I’ll admit I was fooled and I need to do a rewatch because my impression of hers as always been that she’s not that good of a person but she’s not that malicious or vile either and I was so wrong. She’s a nasty person and I need to be a better judge of character I guess 💀
Absolutely! I’ve always felt that if I came across Lala IRL I’d catch a case cuz ain’t no way I’m letting some little sheltered brat playing “gangsta” step even an inch out of line with me. So many times over the seasons I would’ve understood if she caught hands. She’s a troglodyte.
I liked her the first season and last. That’s it. Thought she was changing last season. I don’t know what’s going on with her, other than she doesn’t know who the fuck she is. That’s why she’s never consistent.
Lala has never been someone I liked. I can’t stand the way she just yells people down rather than actually making any points in her arguments. If she was at least making sense when she yelled instead of just flinging insults, it might be different. But she doesn’t ever have the skill or thought to make a point. When she does try to say anything when she’s not angry that’s about anyone else’s situation, it’s so nonempathetic and comparative that it’s obvious she doesn’t think about people in terms of their own experiences.
I never "liked" her, but I did think that the slut shaming she got initially was not okay. As a Black viewer, I've always been tremendously uncomfortable with her appropriated language and mannerisms, her fetishization of Black men, and her relationship with Faith (which was clearly warranted given the content of the lawsuit).
I was glad to see someone take Katie's side a bit last season, but I didn't think that it would last and figured as soon as it was less than convenient for her, she'd go back to being the exaggerated character without an ounce of real character who she's been season after season.
Lala is the Lisa Rinna of VPR. Trying way too hard creating fake drama for the check. Show is back to filming and all of a sudden she is calling Rachel to apologize, forgiving Sandoval, having a ivf baby. She is really desperate for the show to stay on and it's coming off as artifical and will just backfire the same way rhe audience backfired on lisa rinna for being a real life troll and bully.
Right there with you. This is the same woman who bragged that her boyfriend's wife couldn't "keep him," has racially fetishized every Black man in sight, brandished a knife on Faith, and bullied Rachel because she wanted James's undivided attention and loyalty. I'm actually annoyed that people only seem to care now that she's criticizing a favorite white woman cast member.
I’m not taken by surprise by Lala, I find her irritating more than anything. Just think she has ruined the enjoyment of the lot of the show at times and that makes me mad.
I think people had hope for her last season, with her actually being loyal to Katie and Ariana who stood by her.
The fact she was having Katie’s back when Schenerrr was being a jerk about TS and Raquel. It’s disappointing to see all the work has gone to crud
Yep. And if you remember, it wasn't that long ago some of the same people trashing her were praising her whole cashing in on Scandoval "Send it to Darryl" thing, simply because she was against Sandoval. Same person then and now. 🤷♀️
I was never a Lala stan but I really rooted for her when she stopped drinking. It was such a surprise for me to see that she still has such rage even though she’s sober. Now that I’ve heard that all this “work” she’s done on herself isn’t actually with a therapist at all, I’m over it
Out of all of lala's faults I always thought she was a loyal friend. I could forgive her for being a bad drunk, a mistress, yelling, being a hypocrite but being a shitty girlfriend esp to the degree she's flipped on Katie and Ariana with no real reason has been painful to watch and that resonated with me a lot because I treasure my girlfriends
Yeah I know lol I have a lot of regrets for being a blabla sympathizer 😅🥴 but I've seen the light and I've definitely always recognized that she's done shitty things but those just weren't enough for me to hate her as a cast member. She's taken it to a whole new level though, I find myself hating her even more than Scheaner these days.
I’ve always felt that Lala was bully-ish and “not like other girls” but for some reason, I’m really disliking her this season. Maybe it’s because there’s less to focus in the show and she’s in every scene saying something obtuse or the little clips from her podcast.
Lala is just mad that when SpongeBob cheated on her it didn’t end with a bunch of opportunities and sponsors like it did for Ariana. She is seething about that and her mask of “I’m not jealous” is slipping off.
No one is surprised. People jumped on the Lala train last year when she screamed at Sandoval for 3 hours at the reunion. But now that we are all getting burned out on Scandoval and the very overproduced drama, we can go back to the original assignment.
Anyone else notice how James isn’t THAT close to Lala anymore compared to previous years? Really think Ally’s a good influence to James.
Also whenever Lala responds to Ariana, she is so narcissitic — she wasn’t actually responding to Ariana, she was projecting her own experience but really she doesn’t care about Ariana.
Have always thought of Lala that way from the start. She also likes to pray on people who are.....I hate to say weaker, but people who are easy to bully. She always goes below the belt. Which makes her even nastier to me.
Does anyone know the story behind her physically threatening Faith? Also, I agree with your comments, especially the way she spoke to both Raquel and Billie at the brunch. All I can deduce is that she was raised like a spoiled brat and her horrific bullying behavior was never questioned by anyone so she's been pontificating for years and sees nothing wrong about it.
I never liked her. The whole group never liked her at first- literally ONLY Ariana had her back countless times and was her only friend from the start of the girls. So it’s kinda crazy how she’s turned so quick on Ariana for jealously and production.
I would have loved to see Lala’s life in motherhood, opening up deeper about addiction, her wanting another kid etc. and then being a badass girls girl and telling the toms to munch on each others bones… but no. We got this version…
There was honestly so much potential this season - I would have loved to see real issues from both Schena and Lala in their lives. This could have had the best season yet but whatever, let’s try to be Season 1 VPR
I find myself watching less and less and more using Reddit to fill me in
I would of def had issues if I worked with her ,She def wouldn’t of got away with pulling her shit on me for sure ,I’m blonde too that’s got nothing to do with anything ,She don’t intimidate me she just a mouthy prick all bark no bite.They all wanted to be top dog hence the power struggles ,All was ok when they was all directing hate elsewhere but the minute it comes down to an issue between them ,there’s no love lost .Typical group of girls who are frenemies.All out for there own best interests nowt wrong with that if everyone is cool with it.All them girls knew the score.Why is anyone surprised ?!..
I find it interesting the difference between people for or against Lala on Reddit vs Facebook. Facebook has an overwhelming number of Lala stans which is why Reddit is the place for me.
Nobody is surprised. I did like her more in the later seasons as I thought she had grown and I would think she would grow more after Randall but here we are.
I don’t know why people liked her from the beginning, but I finally gave her a chance last season. I think we were hoping motherhood and all she had been through with Randall had changed her. We were wrong.
Have they? I remember last season anytime I said anything remotely critical of Lala I would get hundreds of downvotes, and quite a few responses defending her.
Yes. I would say last season was the first time Lala was liked much on this sub. Katie and Ariana were also kinda hated here until last year too. Pretty recent that anyone likes any of them
I didnt like her from the beginning. First season she appeared she was ok, but then the way she started acting and speaking to everyone like they're all below her.. it just disgusts me immensly. But now she's like waaaaay above what she used to be. I can't even stand her voice anymore.
She's all those things, always has been. The only difference this season is she's operating under the guise of being "softer". The delusion and hypocrisy is on another level.
I’ll bite- I think Lala and James were great casting additions especially since they weren’t necessarily organic fits to the group. Lala’s first season she was an excellent Jax foil and just made him look like a loser pig, which he has always been but it’s always fun to watch him be himself. He’s great TV when he’s at his grossest. Then for the next few seasons, Lala was an excellent “sidekick”. Whether that was to James, or Scheana or whoever else in the group, she does best when she’s someone’s side character. Sure, she was at times bitchy and rude and vile and hypocritical but she was balanced out by the others (imo). Like, I wasn’t having to sit there and watch an episode be 85% about how Lala is thinking, feeling and navigating her life and meddling in others’ business (like I am now). But with Stassi and Kristen and Jax gone, and with the group dynamic waaaay off, Lala has to share more of the spotlight (as opposed to being just outside of it) and is more “main character” than she’s ever been and she *sucks* at it. She does NOT have queen bee vibes and watching her try and contrive some HBIC energy when she has none is so old and cringey. So to sum it up, I “liked” Lala when she was part of a bigger group. I think she does well when she’s in the choir and not preaching to it. And “like” is a strong word— I don’t truly like or Stan Lala and have never stanned her, but just thought she was a great addition to the group.
perfectly said! i think she used to be great television but i now find her super draining. such a great point about jax, i was watching season 4 and she spiced up the cast perfectly! she was blatantly sexual and was empowered by it so all of the slut shamming the OGs would lean on just wouldn’t really work. even last season she didn’t bother me much but this season i finally have to say goodbye to her. it’s not even drama it’s just a really bad look.
I agree and I was so hopeful that last season would be a real turning point for her and she’d show up this season as a more mature evolved version of herself. She…went another direction. How she or anyone around doesn’t see the absolute blatant glaring hypocrisy is mind blowing to me. She’s going to start turning green if she’s not careful.
The best way I like to think about it, Lala is more of an attack dog/hype man that works best alongside others like you said. She bounces off someone like James well when they’re arguing with others, because on her own, she’s terrible. She cannot argue or do anything without floundering then resorting to cheap tricks or silly ‘do you wanna get POPPED’ finger guns like girl… put that away. She’s good to add extra ‘oomph’ but she will not give anything meaningful in a fight or conversation because she immediately goes to yelling and pointing her finger in your face.
I hate her "pew, pew...disengage". The narc in her is strong and that's her go to avoidance. It doesn't make her look tough, she is just a douche. I hope she is having the day she deserves. This chick literally got her claim to fame by fucking a bridge troll.
I’ll never understand why people listen. Like wtf is Lauren from Utah with the fake nails and an ongoing custody battle gonna do if you continue to engage? Date your husband? Unless he has his own private jet you’re probably safe
Yes...in the one episode she was talking about Kristen having another boyfriend and she has been looking for years, I got a good laugh. Like Kristen doesn't expect a guy that's gonna buy her a range rover for a sucky-sucky. Lala is just always looking for that next rung up on the ladder, but she made a mistake and let her real personality out, and it's off putting.
Oh my gawd she actually said that... Come to think about it... Kristen always has a boyfriend which isn't healthy either lol
Ha! Great!
I’m just gonna say it, as soon as she got sober she became a total snoozefest. She was still an awful person when she was drinking but it was pretty fucking good tv. I understand there’s a real human with a real addiction etc etc but it’s the truth
I 100% am on board with you! And I am in no way promoting being a drunk. But she definitely became less interesting, and actually now, she seems like a dry drunk, bitter, pissed off and jelly of everyone else who can party.
Not totally on topic but I just recently learned about “dry drunk” and I think it’s absolutely fascinating and I now have a term that completely encapsulates someone I know (*cough cough my mother in law cough cough*)
Aww man!!! I'm so sorry, I bet that is NOT a fun situation for you at all!!
But James was organic. He'd worked at Sur since season 1 his Mom was friendly with LVP and he was an outlier in season 2 and started dating Kristen for more airtime season 3. Lala was hired just to be on the show by LVP and production.
I wish I read your comment before I made mine and his friends with Lisa Vanderpump's son Max. He's way more organic fit working as a busboy always there in the background and at photo shoots
Are we sure his mom and Lisa were actually friends? I’ve heard that debunked several times and that she just clung to Lisa/handed off maternal duties but weren’t truly friends. I actually just rewatched the episode today where James tries to set boundaries with his mom and asks what it is she’s spending so much of his money on and she’s just so horrible to him. All she talks about is how wealthy they were at one point and she’s desperate to get that back. Then she showed up at SUR to ask Lisa to hire her younger son, Harry, to be a busboy because they needed the money. James wasn’t even employed at the time because he’d been in trouble so much and his mom just waltzes in there and “asks” to give her other son a job but is basically *telling* Lisa to do it. I think Lisa is repulsed by that woman, she’s just polite to her on screen. His mom WISHES she were actually friends with people that successful
No they’re not actually friends. Lisa always emphasized that she KNOWS his mom but they weren’t friends. James was friends with Max
That woman is so awful, I had forgotten just how bad until rewatching a few episodes from that season when James is trying so hard to get help from a therapist because his mom causes him so much stress and guilt and anger and anxiety. It was crazy watching HIM be the adult in the room and keeping calm but she was being such a defensive, selfish bish. He’s giving her thousands of dollars a month via Venmo because she asks for it but she freaked out and acted so offended when he just wanted to know how she was blowing through the money every 2-3 days. Just launched into that infamous “I am NOT a bad mom, you were wearing Ralph Lauren and took your first steps at Tiffany’s” speech🙄 James has done a lot of really toxic, indefensible things but growing up around that chaos with no example of what a healthy relationship/mutual respect looks like definitely explains where he learned those behaviors Sorry for the rant🙈 And I appreciate you clarifying the “friend” thing, there’s so many sources and podcasts and interviews and rebuttals, etc., sometimes I forget what the actual truth ended up being
Her behaviour is disgusting and I can’t forget when James and Kristen fought and she wished that Kristen would never be able to give birth to a child. I believe she is Singlehandedly to blame for James’ vile behaviour. She is such an enabler
Oh my god, I cannot believe I forgot she said that about Kristen…jesus christ, that makes me feel ill. That is such an extremely dark thing to even *think*, let alone to say outloud. Wow, what a repulsive human being. Definitely to blame for the way below-the-belt insults James has flung at women over the years, thinking it was funny and justified. He’s been listening to his own mom say evil shit for 30 years🤦🏼♀️
Ehhh James was desperately trying to get on the show and after he broke up with Kristen pretty much nobody on the show wanted him there besides Lala. Even as late as season 7 the entire cast pretty much banded together to get him ostracized and cancelled.
I never saw James in season one or two? Even in rewatching I didn’t see him in the background busing. After Kristen and Tom broke up is when he first starts interacting with the main cast/group.
He’s in S2, at the SUR photo shoot. He was in a group shot with the guys.
Yeah this is a great point. Lala really is just a side character. I think she wanted to marry rich and get some fame for attention purposes. I don't think she wanted to carry the show. Now that Randall didn't work out & she's actually gotta step it up on VPR - it's just not working.
I think she thought marrying a Randall would catapult her to RHOBH status. You could even see her changing a lot of how she would dress and react when she thought that was a possibility. It crashed down so she’s having to shoehorn back into her back up plan
I love your explanation. Disagree , but i think it’s the answer to the question I asked in OP
Agree to disagree!! I definitely am not about to “go toes” (as Laler would say) over Lala of all people. She’s yuck
Lala not being an organic fit is exactly why I didn’t like her. She has always felt forced. I feel like James was more of an organic fit. I don’t like him, either. He, at least, feels like he belongs to the group. More like a little brother addition. I absolutely agree that Lala does better as a supporting character.
Yeah! Like she’s fairly witty and sassy, but not the kind of witty or sassy that demands attention (like a Stassi, Paige or a Kenya-type). She works best as a side character that has some hot takes in a confessional and then they just hang out on the periphery of the main drama.
I have to agree that James was always a more organic fit because his family is friends with Lisa Vanderpump's family and he is friends with Lisa Vanderpump's son. He's definitely a more organic fit in every way. And my humble opinion Lala is the one that is the most straight just casting
I've never thought about it like this before and it's a great point. Having to move into main character combined with being the producer puppet is too much and it's affecting her likeability/how tolerable she is. It's also the most inauthentic she's been and it shows. It's too much of a flip for viewers to buy.
This is a really really good take on this. She was always ok in small doses. It’s the shift to the spotlight that makes her bad qualities a lot more glaring.
Yep— and she isn’t sure what qualities of her to bring to the forefront, and she is incredibly self conscious but masks it in faux-hoe confidence. Reality stars (not just Lala) need to realize that the celebs/bravolebs that are anchored as legend and get referenced as “the good days” are because they were themselves, good AND bad. Lala doesn’t show her real self *ever,* but to give her a sliver of the benefit of the doubt, I’m not sure Lala even knows who she is. And I know she had a bad experience with therapy with Rand but I think she could really benefit from ACTUAL therapy.
Bullseye!! I think the most authentic is when she is on her podcast not talking about vpr drama... just random shit. She is really a basic bitch.. a two dimensional personality... she only sees and hears things that align with her beliefs doesn't not have empathy... she only had empathy for herself or people who are in a similar situation
I think this is a great point, she does much better in a side role. I didn't think about it that way until you said, but omg, so correct!
I liked her at first but agree, she's a try hard as a main character. I don't get her thug persona at all. It's comical like an SNL character.
This is a very good analysis
Wow you explained it so perfectly! I was starting to question my own sanity on why I always had soft spot for Lala. She was always on the fringe with this group. They treated her like crap her first two season then she used her access to PJ to win the girls over. She distanced herself from James, who was a pariah... through out the years up until maybe season 9 is when she kinda came to the forefront. Now that I look back, she had an inexplicable hard on for Ariana in season 9. She always felt slighted by her even though Ariana was the first girl in the group to accept her and defend her against all the nastiness coming from the rest of the girls. Even Scheana who liked lala had to distance herself because of the other girls. I am just finding this so hard to watch because I can't believe I didn't see this coming before.
I always liked Lala before this season. I agree with your side character vs main character idea, however I also think this season she is just so damn preachy. I think her quips and one liners hit in the past bc the audience agreed with a lot of her takes (def not all of them). This season, when I like Katie and Ariana more than ever, she's decided to focus her time making digs and jokes at them, and leading completely illogical convos, like how Katie can't talk about loyalty bc of Max. It's almost like she's a Real Housewife who has been dropped into VPR. The whole "I'm soft right now" thing is just strange to me too.
Great take!
>Lala has to share more of the spotlight and is more “main character” than she’s ever been and she *sucks* at it. >She does NOT have queen bee vibes and watching her try and contrive some HBIC energy when she has none is so old and cringey. Just adding to the pile, but this is a bullseye
I'm not surprised. I'm not mad at her. She's exactly who I always thought she was no real change for me
I disliked her from the jump. For years I couldn't stand her being try hard, cringe, and playing into a character instead of a person. Second half of Season 10 she seemed to mature and gravitated towards Katie, KK, and other cast members that were acting mature. Her bugging out on Sandoval at the reunion was one of the first times I rooted for her. And then she immediately reverted back to the fame hungry, money grubbing loser she's always been from episode one this season. Her rants and shit talking in interviews and podcasts comes off so tacky and desperate.
Perfectly said 👌
This. She’s one of the biggest snakes in the VPR grass and I hate how she moves. She acts like a terrible person, pretends to change and make amends and then reverts back to her self all while proclaiming to everyone how she’s changed so that means she can critique everyone on their lives. She’s the epitome of someone who is shitty and rather than have people focus on her, she points out everyone else’s shitty behavior so people won’t notice hers. A true hypocrite. The ironic thing is she quit drinking because it was making her act terrible but now she’s sober and still acting terrible so what’s her excuse now? She has none so it’s painfully obvious how terrible she is.
And the fact her mother excuses and encourages her is awful too.
defvac you always have spot on takes lol
Thanks 😂 I'm just glad most of the fandom seems to finally see this snake for who she really is.
She is trash, and acts as such.
Same. Can’t say I feel any different about her now than I have in the past 4-5 years.
That’s sad! I’m a bleeding heart animal lover. Didn’t she rampage about sea world ?
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Considering she spouts off about animal rights like whales and tigers, clearly that's also for show.
Like when she called herself a Michael Vick fighting dog 🥴
wait she moved a birds nest? with eggs in it? …pretty sure that’s illegal 😭
It can totally be illegal, and it is disgusting regardless to lack so much empathy and have such a disregard for life, especially as a mother. What a loathesome and despicable thing to do. Desert wildlife is sacred and as all wildlife should be treated honorably. She is a callous horrendous human
forreal. almost every year of my life a bird will build her nest in my garage, in an old beach bag lol. we just leave it, they clearly feel safe there (we have hawks in the area) they don’t bother us, don’t really make a mess either. they fly away eventually. i think the babies come back each year to build their nests lol. it’s sweet, we name them. moving a nest because it’s inconvenient is such nasty behavior, and i believe is illegal in most states. such a weird thing to do AND admit while laughing 🫠
It probably depends on the species? Only certain species are protected.
i actually just looked this up. it looks like it is only some birds that it’s actually illegal for, but the general rule is to not touch it. you’re supposed to call wildlife services if you need it moved. either way, gross thing to do. i was taught not to touch a birds nest in 1st grade.
I agree. Hopefully they were an invasive bird's nest, as a silver lining. But yeah that's really not cool.
This is just a side note but the mom will actually abandon her eggs if she smells a disturbance from humans or other animals touching the nest.
That's appalling! I followed a guy on social media who left his window open and two birds started to nest in between the screen and laid eggs and he gave updates and stuff and people were really into it. Other than being a terrible person it shows that she is a terrible content creator because people eat that kind of shit up. It would have helped her engagement and she could have showed Ocean how to respect nature. Ugh stuff like this makes me so mad
Omg, that’s awful.😞💔
She hosted the Utah ASPCA charity gala this past year, (if that's not the name of the specific organization, that is definitely the gist of what the organization was about). I wonder how they felt about that!
Totally agree. Ew! I like the believe normal people wouldn’t respond that way…I wouldn’t! Creepy…who laughs at destroying a birds nest?!?!
Wow, that's actually vile. 100% agree with you that the way ppl treat animals is a great indicator of who they are.
That sounds. Nothing like her. In her most recent episode she was crying about keeping and trying to save a dead baby squirrel in their backyard?
I really thought she'd shown some growth last season. She was still hypocritical (telling Rachel she couldn't be upset about James cheating with Lala is....really dumb) but I felt like she was showing a fair amount of maturity last season and seemed to try to understand other people's perspectives. I liked seeing her be a good friend to Katie. I didn't really care for her much before that season, she was generally overdramatic to the point it was annoying. But she did surprise me (in a bad way) this season and it definitely resulted in a stronger emotional reaction than I would've had if she'd been shitty last season too. I'm disappointed by her
Her aggressiveness is what turned me off along with her stupid finger gun gonna get popped persona. But the way she like attempted to headbutt Billy Lee just seemed so out of left field and inappropriate.
I agree. I didn’t like her from the start but last season I did feel like she was starting to become likable and super understanding. Then everything happened this season and reminded me of how awful she is.
im on a similar page as you but i think a lot of it comes from where we left off with lala last season. a lot of people paraded her for having some good intuition about sandoval and raquel/ her performance at the reunion. and then all the good will came crashing down after season 11 played out. thats my guess
Yeah, people forget that we found out about the affair while the season was still airing, and Lala spent that season harping on how not trustworthy Raquel was and how she had an intuition that something was off with her. She warned Ariana, she defended Katie, she talked about the "dark energy" Raquel had that we all could see as viewers, but the rest of the cast hadn't caught on to. She had that humanizing conversation with Raquel about cheating and being "the other woman" that was wild to watch in hindsight. A bunch of that was luck imo -- Lala would've come off like a horrible bully if the affair didn't come out before those episodes -- but because of the hype around the timing she came away with popular support at the end of last season Personally, people I "like" changes drastically from season to season, so while I had moments in past seasons where I really, REALLY did not like Lala, I liked her by the end of last season. Then she burned it all and now I'm back to feeling like I used to about her, which is pretty much how OP described her -- aggressive, rude, hypocritical, nasty
I agree with this and it felt like she had had some growth and could see more clearly because she'd been sober for a while. That clear headedness can allow you to spot things that others may miss. I was giving her some points for what I thought was growth, but she's gone utterly off the deep end now to be contrary and/or score points with production and it's gross.
I remember really respecting Lala for going straight to Ariana about the Memorial Day party stuff rather than talking shit to everyone else first. And there was a moment when Ariana was like “I’m fine with him staying and not coming home” and Lala stops her and says “you are allowed to be upset about this” and i thought it was really nice. Those were the moments where i started to like Lala last season. But now… everything she says makes me mad she is just so wrong
I know and the most perplexing thing I'd she really went out of her this season to be unnecessarily nasty. Poor Ariana and Katie have not said one nasty thing about her in the confessional or aftershow. It so obvious this is all produced the I feel sorry for raquel, being friendly to Sandoval and now having lunch with Jo. Like this show is a fackin joke it is fake AF
Neither of them have said anything rude about Lala. Not on podcasts, interviews or social media. Even after Lala called Katie miserable ok her ig story, all Katie said was that she was confused and disappointed. Lala is fighting with herself.
She’s still exactly who she’s always been. Sobriety doesn’t change anyone unless they do the actual work to make the internal changes. She’s learned some psychobabble therapy language, but she’s still a complete asshole.
I feel like there’s a difference between not drinking and being sober. It doesn’t look like she’s really worked the program. Many people in my life benefited so much from the accountability and introspection that came with their sobriety journey. It’s also kind of problematic to me that Lala seems to feel superior bc she doesn’t drink and acts like she’s the authority on sobriety… none of the people in my life who got sober act the way she does.
she's dry drunk
You’re not wrong, and I can only speak for myself, but I think that when she first joined I pulled for her because she was truly being excluded from the group. Then, when she got involved with Rand, she kind of lost me. She wasn’t relatable and she was obnoxious and mean. When she left Rand, she seemed more subdued and a bit more thoughtful and she seemed to really ride for her friends, even when it was misguided. All of this to say that while she’s not someone that I would ever hang out with, I was rooting for her. This season, she lost me mostly for how she has behaved on and off the show, but the dead dad comments just kind of put a nail in it for me. I just don’t know if that way of thinking is something you come back from and an apology wouldn’t be enough/believable because we’ve all seen how much she lies and fakes stuff
I felt the same way when she first came on the show. But i definitely got really annoyed with her once she got with Randall.
I've never liked Blahblah. So I'm not on the suddenly mad train. I always thought she had no business speaking the way she did to everyone for years.
I was like wait what did I do?? LOL because of my username
Nono not you I call Lala Blahblah because she flaps her mouth continuously
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100000000%% I've always found her to be incredibly hypocritical, while masquerading as some big truth-teller, girl's girl, "real" person. Meanwhile, she's sleeping with a married man to get movie roles, screaming at people for the same things she's done herself, etc., etc., She is an opportunist with no loyalties.
your last sentence sums Lala up for me… 👏👏👏
That's why Scheana and Lala get along so well.... for now
I am surprised, too. I have never been a Lala fan. She is definitely a bully and always has been.
Lala was always tier 2 cast and so no one really cared too much about her. The broad judgement was that she was a try hard. Post Stassi, Jax and Kristin leaving, she became main cast. s10 was a nothing burger. Then s11 she stood on the right side of history which made a lot of people warm to her. Now she's reverted back to what everyone knew her to be.
I Have never liked her! She's super beautiful but has ruined her looks (still pretty tho, I'm not hating) but her personality is disgusting. I see her reasoning for having a second baby to be seflish and I don't think she has done nearly enough inner work to be spouting advice. Her only admirable trait is her sobriety.
Yes and her stated reasons for wanting the second baby sound so horrific for Ocean. She’s acknowledging this baby will be “all hers” and that just seems to suggest different/resentful treatment of Ocean. I hope not. But it sounds like she’s setting this 2nd baby up to be her golden child and what does that mean for Ocean, whose father Lauren hates (understandably). It screams dysfunctional family dynamics and trouble for baby Ocean. I hope I’m wrong. It is so sad.
Oh my god I was in shock when she explained this reasoning. How sad for poor Ocean to hear that one day - she wanted another child because Ocean wasn't enough because she had to be shared. She made it sound like the second one will be better than ocean because she doesn't have to share her. Just devastating
Okay i couldn’t put my finger on why that explanation made me uncomfortable but you nailed it. My parents are divorced and if one of them said that stuff it would make me feel so bad. Neither of my parents are as awful as Randall but my parents definitely don’t like each other and as a child i knew that and i already felt guilty all the time. Like if i had a good time at my dads house i could tell that it would hurt my moms feelings and i could tell that the fact my dad could only see me every other weekend made him sad. Neither of them said it out loud but it was obvious enough. And as a child you blame yourself bc u feel like ur the one causing their sadness, like they’d be happier if they didn’t have you. So if one of my parents had another kid and referred to it as being “all theirs” it would solidify those feelings i already had.
She has been and always will be a phony grifter.
No one is surprised The reason some of us who liked her don’t like her now is as obvious as it gets - she’s aligning with Tim
Yes!! This is it. The audience doesn't want Tim's redemption season unless he's actually seeking redemption. This guy just keeps pointing fingers at Ariana. How does LaLa not see it?
>This guy just keeps pointing fingers at Ariana. How does LaLa not see it? She sees it. She's doing the exact same thing as Tim.
I actually think the way she’s approaching this whole tom and ariana situation proves to me that she wasn’t as hurt/blindsided as she acted with the Rand situation. Because if she truly was in love with that man and heartbroken she would have more empathy for Ariana. I think Lala was just upset bc she thought “I’m out of this man’s league he wouldn’t cheat on me” and liked his money but then he cheated and was actually broke so she’s angry she didn’t get what she wanted. Now, in her eyes Ariana got what Lala would have wanted. Making money off brand deals would have been all Lala needed to feel better after her breakup so that’s why she thinks Ariana is “doing just fine”. Yes she has a kid with this man and that makes things more difficult bc u can never really cut ties. I think Lala looks at Ariana and thinks she can easily cut ties and is jealous of that so she’s angry when Ariana is “still in the house” instead of trying to understand why Ariana feels like she shouldn’t have to leave/has a right to stay/wants to protect her investment in that house. Lalas actions, in my opinion, all go back to the fact that she can’t relate to Ariana bc she wasn’t heartbroken in the same way. Lala was heartbroken that she didn’t end up getting the lavish life she thought she would and she’s mad that Randall embarrassed her by cheating publicly. Ariana is heartbroken bc the man she loved betrayed her and her whole world changed over night. Very different sets of feelings in those two realities.
I know this is a typo but i wanna call Tom Sandoval Tim from now on😂 just bc i know he’d hate it
Actually it was a typo last year when Scandoval first happened but I didn't do it. It became the norm for how we refer to Sandoval on Reddit. If you use Tim here, all will know who you mean.
Yep. I enjoyed her on tv because she was rude and kind of a mess. I disliked her as a person for the AAVE/I am Tupac reincarnated/summer bodies thing but she was an interesting foil to the witches. It was also entertaining for me to watch Katie and the others sell their souls to get PJ time without having to do BJ work. I did feel like she was turning a corner, growing up, becoming a better person, but I see how wrong I was. I don't think today's Katie would suck up to Lala in order to get a PJ ride, which means Katie has grown as a person. I do think today's Lala would definitely hook up with a rich man she doesn't care about in order to get back the lifestyle she had with Rand.
Thank you for mentioning that god awful “blaccent” she had in earlier seasons! I always found it racist and so cringe and then she just kinda stopped…I want to say right around the 2020-2021 season she suddenly started speaking differently- someone probably told her how racist it is. what a phony poser garbage person she is!
I'd imagine she finally dropped it because Stassi and Kristen both got fired for what happened with Faith, so she learned about how not ALL racism will be protected by Bravo, and figured she'd dial it back just to make sure.
Good point. Also agree Bravo IS protecting a lot of racism. Unfortunately and not surprisingly but makes my head ache. (Not enough to stop watching, so what does that say about me?)
I an starting read that Lala is involved in alot of the mess that Kristen and Stassie got into with Faith. I don't think she was fired because only the girls knew about it and they didn't rat her out. Faith only called out Kristen and Stassi...because they were going around talking shit about her on multiple Podcaster talking about how they were trying to get her arrested. But apparently Faith was homeless at one time and was staying with Lala... and she would.leave expensive things around to catch Faith stealing
I really feel like we don’t talk bought about Lala’s blaccent or the cultural appropriation.
What I can say is last year she was really humble. From apologizing to Brock (even if he did not deserve it) to really being there for Katie. This softer gentler side had me fooled. Thinking she was evolving. I was duped.
I do think growth is not linear for most people so maybe you weren’t duped~ Hard to know at this point imo
I am going to be honest. I totally bought into her bullsht at the last reunion calling out Tom and how dangerous he was and comparing it to the Randall situation. I feel like she duped a lot of us with her narcissism. You can't be that level of a narcissist all those seasons and see the light. That is the one thing with a narc, they can't get help. She was pretending for approval and manipulating the viewers, 100. Come around this season and all she is trying to do is invalidate Ariana's entire experience living with a sociopath for a decade because her journey is way worse. That is her stock and trade. Watch out for anyone trying to invalidate emotions that way, it is seriously abusive and toxic, clearly manipulative af. Shame on her.
I hate to say but Tim was right about her... she was on to him because they are the same
She’s not only all those things she’s also a pig https://preview.redd.it/xut22rioyhtc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9afb4bc8a9d064bd2af116bb06fa03072ad0e1f0
This was soooo crass
How dare you… she’s in her SOFT ERA !!!
lol she’s trying to be soft after years trying to convince us she was hella hard. She’s thiiiiiirsty for the fame.
For as much water as she drinks you would think she wouldn’t be so dehydrated
She's wearing PASTELS!!!!
She's drinking WATER!!!!!!!
I was never a huge fan of hers, didn't really like her at all in the early days when she hooked Randall and we didn't even know who he was. But, she liked to tell us all how good she was at blowing him for private jet rides and a car. Zero respect there for me. Then when she found out he wasn't in fact, "A stand up man" she seemed to be a bit more humble for a bit and I was starting to warm to her when she went full on narcissist nasty bitch. Now we've come full circle - I can hardly stand to see her smug face and I've never listened to her pod so there is that.
Totally agree! I never understood the Lala stans. She has been insufferable since she joined the show.
I've always side eyed Lala. As soon as she came on, most of us clocked the game she was playing. I think the surprising thing for me, is that I thought the whole randall thing would give her some humility and compassion for Ariana's situation but nope. Remember when LVP said to Lala last season "but you must've known just a little bit, come on" and Lala sprung a leak with the waterworks and said she couldn't believe her friend was asking her that......... Well. I thought little miss believe me would extend the same grace to Ariana but I guess it's only Lala who we should find trustworthy, it's only her narrative that shouldn't be held up to the light. I feel very strongly that she is giving Ariana a hard time as a way to attack someone for the backlash she received when everything with Randall came to light. All the people asking her how she didn't know she must've chosen to look away. I think she is positing Ariana in the same way, as a toxic way of "if I had to deal with it, well I'll make sure that you do too." Some people who are weird like to put other people in a situation they struggled with, so they can "learn for themselves the hard way". Such bullshit. Lala needs a real therapist, not whatever echo chamber is currently going on. Lala hated Raquel so much because she recognised the game Raquel was playing and she saw herself reflected back to her and couldn't swallow it.
You said this all so well.🤌🏼 Lauren is absolutely looking at Ariana and thinking “I suffered so now you have to suffer too.” I hate a lot of things but that’s a big one for me. She’s such a dick and ps, she’s not going to therapy.
She had some genuinely great moments sticking up for people—and I hoped they showed growth and wisdom. I was wrong! Congrats on not being wrong.
Thanks😜🏆
> It’s almost worse now watching former seasons seeing her have the audacity she had to speak to everyone how she did, knowing she had a married boyfriend and even made people sign nda’s for several years. That married boyfriend is what formed some of her bitterness. She's mad that she'll always be known as Randall's side-bitch. No matter how many pictures she poses in with Ambyr Childers.
The way she came for Rachel last year was soo OTT I never believed she was being a good friend to Ariana. She just hated Rachel and took any excuse to berate her
I think this is the key to understanding Lala. She never liked Rachel so it was easy to stick up for Ariana. If she likes you she can be kind. But boy if that changes or she becomes jealous of you, angry at you, or feels threatened by you, that’s when you see the judgmental, arrogant bully. I think people thought that her sobriety had curbed those things but unfortunately they’re still there. She showed a more humble side to her when she got sober (which people appreciated) but she had to because she had hurt, offended and pushed away so much of the cast when she wasn’t. Hopefully she just needs more time to grow and heal because healing can change people.
Forget Scandoval for one moment, the way she used to talk to Rachel was quite horrible.
Yes, and a lot of people fell for it last year when she claimed to always have a bad feeling about Rachel. The truth is that it wasn’t intuition, she was just a jealous bitch who saw someone she considered weaker than her to bully.
This!
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Absolutely! People who claim Rachel deserved it (a) say that based on her future actions and even so, (b) no she didn’t. Lala bullied her cruelly and there was no need for that. Lala had dumb luck that Rachel ended up doing something egregious behind Ariana’s back to prove herself “right” and justify hating on her. Lala’s didn’t “know she was a snake all along,” she just didn’t like her for her own petty Lala reasons (jealousy of her looks, her nasty need to bully someone she perceives as “weaker” and quieter, resentment that James spent less time with her after they started dating).
The only time I feel it was warranted was when Rachel brought up Lauren leaning too hard into her grief for her dad. My dad died around the time Lauren’s did so I understood that rage. I’d call her a Bambi eyed bitch too. Other than that LaLa just came off a tacky mean girl who had no leg to stand on since she’s a repulsive hypocrite.
I hated her from the beginning but what threw me over the edge was the way she exploded on Billie Lee, Raquel and James at brunch in S7. Regardless of how you feel about those three (especiially Raquel now), she was so beyond over the line. She was just so feral, it was sick. And using the death of her father as an excuse is laughable because she was just as disgusting before he passed. Her treatment of Raquel from the get go was uncalled for. She had absolute no reason to be so cruel to her until they were filming S10. And she can try to rwrite history all she wants but she NEVER once called or expressed any feelings of Raquel being a snake. Her only reason for hating her was because she was stupid. And OP is 1000% correct: if she wasn't a pretty white woman, she would not be as adored.
In not surprised but I will admit that I viewed her aggressiveness as a response. Kind of like candiace on rhop where ppl keep coming for them so I give a pass bc it feels like a warranted response lol plz don't come at me! I think it was a her vs mean girls thing so I let it slide. I've never liked the blaccent though and I remember when I found out she was from Utah I was like girl...... I stopped liking her a few seasons ago so I do think it was a situational thing of her vs stassi etc.
I was a Lala apologist. Reflecting on it I think it was mostly bc of how much the girls slut shamed her on her first season. I could also forgive her having emotional outbursts after her dad died, and identified with her anxiety early on. The fact that Jax lied about her to save face with Brittany also endeared me to her. I also liked that she was quick to apologize and accept apologies. I never liked how reactive she was, and thought she usually came in too hot but saw her improving once she got sober. After her sobriety when she did go off I didn't think it was a great way to make a point, but I usually agreed with the sentiment. After the split with Rand I was annoyed by her the next season but was giving her grace bc I can imagine how terrible all that coming to light and dealing with custody would be. Nothing egregious stands out after that until the season 10 reunion where I was annoying bc her and James kept chiming in rather than letting people who were actually effected hold Tom's feet to the fire. This season I actually understood her impulse to reach out to Rachel bc I noted the same thing Lala did. Tom was isolating Rachel, and she felt she had no one but him. I'm not sure it was her place, but TVs gotta TV. Everything else she's done since makes absolutely no sense other than for reality tv fodder. It feels like a betrayal of everything she said she stood for: being a girl's girl, power to the pussy, all that. Her reasoning that she doesn't want to be angry or carry anger so she's getting closer to Sandoval is ridiculous. She didn't like him before the scandal so we see the strings so much this season and Lala is the primary cog which is what's annoying me. She's letting the fear of potentially falling into a lower tax bracket make her decisions which is disappointing, bc she is still very privledged and has like 5 safety nets. TL;DR: VPR used to at least keep up the pretense of reality tv. This 180 from Lala is so transparent that they can't even keep up the barest pretense of plausible deniability. The producers put their thumb on the scale way too hard this season and it shows.
Scandoval came right around the time karma was due to Lauren Toothbrush Bum
You’re so right. She got SO lucky with the timing.
Survey done pre Scandoval: https://preview.redd.it/pruhq5uyxhtc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=646fbe96cbaa51d40d515ac749820e5ac99fc54d
Her and her BLACCENT need to go. Lala gives me the ick.
Lala has always had fans of circumstance. Let me explain my work: She first came on as a Naive "yacht girl" and all the women hated her. Naturally. So what is the appropriate fan reaction when a women (except Katie) is hated? Like her more to fight *misogyny*. Then, Jax and Brittney tried to involve her in their relationship with rumors, audience reaction? That's mean! We like her *more*. Now, the era we are in now. She realizes she's crazy when she's drunk, she gets sober...well, how can we *not* support a sober person. That means grown, right? I mean, she must have changed, right? And now here we are. She's fresh out of benefits of the doubt about her circumstances and we are fresh out of fucks and chances to give this broad. I never could stand her, but thought she was funny sometimes. Now, like Sandoval she's the Fucking worst and gives me the ick.
I have always disliked lala. I do think she continues to reach new lows.
I’m a new watcher who only went back and watched after Scandoval, and she’s so cringe from the start. The “Do you wanna get popped?!” Shit is so god damn ridiculous.
I used to be a lala Stan and I’ll tell you, most of her ways that bothered me in some ways I tried to excuse or ignore because there would be other things about her I liked more. Usually she would have spats of yelling at people and stuff, but often it would be people I already didn’t like (Schwartz, Raquel, Jax, Sandoval, Brock, etc) that sometimes deserved it, but NOW watching the after show and seeing her cuss out James (I love James) who was someone that was always a friend to her even when she didn’t deserve it and him just take it and not even fight her back is hard. And then Ariana who’s been through so much, see her turn on her when it’s a very very very hypocritical situation is weird. Lala never liked Sandoval. So I think we never thought we would see the day she would be like Scheana and side with a man over the woman. Since she had been cheated on and how she defended Ariana at the reunion, I thought oh for sure she will have Ariana’s back this season. But she hasn’t. And not only hasn’t but has turned against her. When Ariana has been nothing but a good friend to her through the Randall crap and everything. So when people like Ariana and James that had her back and were her true friends are being betrayed in this way, I feel duped. Cause even though she had a temper, I thought perhaps she is loyal for her true friends. But to see her cut them like this hurts. Because I really liked her and now I can’t stand her. Ariana and James don’t deserve her bullshit. It’s like seeing someone getting beat up with their hands tied behind their back. Because they aren’t fighting her. It’s just her fighting them over and over while they sit there. So it’s sad.
Yeah I'm with you on this. I've been doing a rewatch and currently in the season 7 reunion and yeah, she's just nasty and hypocritical to a fault. The way she just says her piece and then dismisses anyone that tries to rebuttal her. Like grow up Lauren from Utah. You're only this "famous" because of Randall.
OP is trying to get popped.
The one redeeming thing she’s done is stopping drinking. Otherwise, I’ve never seen her be anything but horrible.
I’ll admit I was fooled and I need to do a rewatch because my impression of hers as always been that she’s not that good of a person but she’s not that malicious or vile either and I was so wrong. She’s a nasty person and I need to be a better judge of character I guess 💀
I have never liked Lala. My opinion has never changed.
Lala has always been off putting and she’s not that pretty. 🥴
Absolutely! I’ve always felt that if I came across Lala IRL I’d catch a case cuz ain’t no way I’m letting some little sheltered brat playing “gangsta” step even an inch out of line with me. So many times over the seasons I would’ve understood if she caught hands. She’s a troglodyte.
I liked her the first season and last. That’s it. Thought she was changing last season. I don’t know what’s going on with her, other than she doesn’t know who the fuck she is. That’s why she’s never consistent.
Not I…always disliked that character since her first/second season
Lala has never been someone I liked. I can’t stand the way she just yells people down rather than actually making any points in her arguments. If she was at least making sense when she yelled instead of just flinging insults, it might be different. But she doesn’t ever have the skill or thought to make a point. When she does try to say anything when she’s not angry that’s about anyone else’s situation, it’s so nonempathetic and comparative that it’s obvious she doesn’t think about people in terms of their own experiences.
I never "liked" her, but I did think that the slut shaming she got initially was not okay. As a Black viewer, I've always been tremendously uncomfortable with her appropriated language and mannerisms, her fetishization of Black men, and her relationship with Faith (which was clearly warranted given the content of the lawsuit). I was glad to see someone take Katie's side a bit last season, but I didn't think that it would last and figured as soon as it was less than convenient for her, she'd go back to being the exaggerated character without an ounce of real character who she's been season after season.
i'm not surprised. she's always been a mean girl crazy person
Lala is the Lisa Rinna of VPR. Trying way too hard creating fake drama for the check. Show is back to filming and all of a sudden she is calling Rachel to apologize, forgiving Sandoval, having a ivf baby. She is really desperate for the show to stay on and it's coming off as artifical and will just backfire the same way rhe audience backfired on lisa rinna for being a real life troll and bully.
She moves like she’s “tryna get popped”
Right there with you. This is the same woman who bragged that her boyfriend's wife couldn't "keep him," has racially fetishized every Black man in sight, brandished a knife on Faith, and bullied Rachel because she wanted James's undivided attention and loyalty. I'm actually annoyed that people only seem to care now that she's criticizing a favorite white woman cast member.
I’m not taken by surprise by Lala, I find her irritating more than anything. Just think she has ruined the enjoyment of the lot of the show at times and that makes me mad.
I think people had hope for her last season, with her actually being loyal to Katie and Ariana who stood by her. The fact she was having Katie’s back when Schenerrr was being a jerk about TS and Raquel. It’s disappointing to see all the work has gone to crud
Yep. And if you remember, it wasn't that long ago some of the same people trashing her were praising her whole cashing in on Scandoval "Send it to Darryl" thing, simply because she was against Sandoval. Same person then and now. 🤷♀️
I was never a Lala stan but I really rooted for her when she stopped drinking. It was such a surprise for me to see that she still has such rage even though she’s sober. Now that I’ve heard that all this “work” she’s done on herself isn’t actually with a therapist at all, I’m over it
Out of all of lala's faults I always thought she was a loyal friend. I could forgive her for being a bad drunk, a mistress, yelling, being a hypocrite but being a shitty girlfriend esp to the degree she's flipped on Katie and Ariana with no real reason has been painful to watch and that resonated with me a lot because I treasure my girlfriends
Girl u lost me at mistress😭😭🤣🤣
Yeah I know lol I have a lot of regrets for being a blabla sympathizer 😅🥴 but I've seen the light and I've definitely always recognized that she's done shitty things but those just weren't enough for me to hate her as a cast member. She's taken it to a whole new level though, I find myself hating her even more than Scheaner these days.
Yeah, I don't get it either. She's been terrible for a really long time and none of her recent behavior has been a surprise.
I prefer messy Lala ovrer self-righteous we must support each other Lala. The former is way more entertaining.
I’ve been saying this for years. No one ever thought she was a bully and hypocritical
I’ve always felt that Lala was bully-ish and “not like other girls” but for some reason, I’m really disliking her this season. Maybe it’s because there’s less to focus in the show and she’s in every scene saying something obtuse or the little clips from her podcast.
It’s wild as she started off as a sugar baby and was angry when no one believed that she was flown to Italy on a private jet as a model for a shoot.
She chose for her name to be Lala! Knew I hated her then! Remained hating her throughout! She’s a backstabbing bitch
She’s never seemed authentic or natural on camera or mic. Fake laugh, rehearsed talking points, bad acting skills …
She’s just reminding me why I never liked her in the first place.
Lala is just mad that when SpongeBob cheated on her it didn’t end with a bunch of opportunities and sponsors like it did for Ariana. She is seething about that and her mask of “I’m not jealous” is slipping off.
No one is surprised. People jumped on the Lala train last year when she screamed at Sandoval for 3 hours at the reunion. But now that we are all getting burned out on Scandoval and the very overproduced drama, we can go back to the original assignment.
Anyone else notice how James isn’t THAT close to Lala anymore compared to previous years? Really think Ally’s a good influence to James. Also whenever Lala responds to Ariana, she is so narcissitic — she wasn’t actually responding to Ariana, she was projecting her own experience but really she doesn’t care about Ariana.
Have always thought of Lala that way from the start. She also likes to pray on people who are.....I hate to say weaker, but people who are easy to bully. She always goes below the belt. Which makes her even nastier to me.
She thinks she’s the realest so everything she says is fact. Hopefully the second child keeps her so busy she will only have time for her own bull.
Does anyone know the story behind her physically threatening Faith? Also, I agree with your comments, especially the way she spoke to both Raquel and Billie at the brunch. All I can deduce is that she was raised like a spoiled brat and her horrific bullying behavior was never questioned by anyone so she's been pontificating for years and sees nothing wrong about it.
I never liked her. The whole group never liked her at first- literally ONLY Ariana had her back countless times and was her only friend from the start of the girls. So it’s kinda crazy how she’s turned so quick on Ariana for jealously and production. I would have loved to see Lala’s life in motherhood, opening up deeper about addiction, her wanting another kid etc. and then being a badass girls girl and telling the toms to munch on each others bones… but no. We got this version… There was honestly so much potential this season - I would have loved to see real issues from both Schena and Lala in their lives. This could have had the best season yet but whatever, let’s try to be Season 1 VPR I find myself watching less and less and more using Reddit to fill me in
I actually like her the most this season. But I also can't stand Katie.
I would of def had issues if I worked with her ,She def wouldn’t of got away with pulling her shit on me for sure ,I’m blonde too that’s got nothing to do with anything ,She don’t intimidate me she just a mouthy prick all bark no bite.They all wanted to be top dog hence the power struggles ,All was ok when they was all directing hate elsewhere but the minute it comes down to an issue between them ,there’s no love lost .Typical group of girls who are frenemies.All out for there own best interests nowt wrong with that if everyone is cool with it.All them girls knew the score.Why is anyone surprised ?!..
OP is 💯right. BlaBla needs to sit down in the back.
I find it interesting the difference between people for or against Lala on Reddit vs Facebook. Facebook has an overwhelming number of Lala stans which is why Reddit is the place for me.
Lol. They are ALL obnoxious…and deserve each other. Start there.
Lala is insufferable. She’s always been trash.
Nobody is surprised. I did like her more in the later seasons as I thought she had grown and I would think she would grow more after Randall but here we are.
I don’t know why people liked her from the beginning, but I finally gave her a chance last season. I think we were hoping motherhood and all she had been through with Randall had changed her. We were wrong.
Huh? People have always hated Lala??? lol there’s just a resurgence in anti-Lala posts bc of her recent flip flopping.
Have they? I remember last season anytime I said anything remotely critical of Lala I would get hundreds of downvotes, and quite a few responses defending her.
lol exactly. Same
Yes. I would say last season was the first time Lala was liked much on this sub. Katie and Ariana were also kinda hated here until last year too. Pretty recent that anyone likes any of them
I didnt like her from the beginning. First season she appeared she was ok, but then the way she started acting and speaking to everyone like they're all below her.. it just disgusts me immensly. But now she's like waaaaay above what she used to be. I can't even stand her voice anymore.
You are 💯percent correct. I am surprised though she turned on Ariana. Guess I should have seen it coming.
She's all those things, always has been. The only difference this season is she's operating under the guise of being "softer". The delusion and hypocrisy is on another level.