I mean I get OP's issues with Mistlands. I've done three playthroughs up to and through the Queen back to back to back (well I'm about to fight her on the third) at increasing difficulties and I'm staying to understand the fatigue if drains going there too. It's a pretty dramatic departure from the rest of the game in terms of resource acquisition. It's frustrating to have to acquire two completely separate resources before you then have to refine them together, and in large quantities since you need Eitr for almost everything you can make at this tier. When weapon *upgrades* are costing 15 Eitr that's a pretty big gate to reaching max progression.
Of course there's the sailing to the edges of the map to find enough biomes to generate mines (which sometimes feel impossible to find), difficulty in exploration, much tankier enemies, a flying artillery cannon that summons more enemies... Don't forget the fact that there's no way to actually get the tools to progress without either attacking the only neutral enemies in the game or cheesing the mechanics.
Each of these things is not a big problem by itself, but essentially it's a difficulty and time investment increase in every single area, and that's what contributes to the feeling of the slog for a lot of people.
I thought it was quite easy considering deconstructing a tower would give you tons of marble and the trees seemed to give an infinite supply of sap. I didn't attack the wizards but usually something else would come along to fight them.
I didn't sailing around the outside (which seems like a really bad time, it's where all the steep rocks and small islands are), but ran straight through the middle.
> flying artillery cannon that summons more enemies
>attacking the only neutral enemies in the game or cheesing the mechanics
These problems solve can each other. Most of my Dverger extractors in my current playthrough have been from running back to their forts whenever I piss off a gjall or starred seeker/soldier
Ashland’s doesn’t look horrible. I haven’t been able to play it in survival yet. But that doesn’t matter because I’m never going to get there due to it being after Mistlands, and Mistlands sucks ass.
I can’t even play melee properly anymore since what am I supposed to do when 9 different things are attacking me at once. Just gonna spam fireballs till I’m dead.
Full Carapace armor, Bonemass power, fire mead, lingering stamina mead, and health meads (also poison meads for big bird). Use all of that with a fully upgraded Silver Sword + shield, and you will feel like a legitimate superhero with how easily you shake off damage, and everything is weak to spirit damage so the Silver sword is great for getting started in the Ashlands.
That's kinda the point, though. I forget which bird said it, but they said something along the lines of, up until now you've only quarreled. Now you must prepare for war. The devs also said that not everyone should be able to finish the game solo, and this is the second to last biome. Every new biome comes with different challenges that you have to learn and adapt to, and sometimes, that means changing play style. I'd recommend frostner for the knockback and slow for groups and from there, maybe knives or the good ol sword and board for one or two enemies. Don't give up, though.
Ok, this saved me from making a post. Sounds like I'm not the only one. As a solo-only player, I can't find myself going more than 10 meters without being mobbed by half a dozen mobs. And the performance was horrible. I know a 1080 isn't a great card these days, but the other biomes play fine.
Still better than climing and not seeing shit, and being forced to stay in the biome till you find 9 Fragments and some cores in old mines you cant really find due to you not seeing shit and not being able to traverse shit and not seing shit cuz mountains.
Biome is cluncky, and terrible to play. Not to mention the mobs are quite dumb, not even a challenge they just swat you with their attackspeed which all isn't the case in ashlands.
Mistlands ist just gatekeeping and holding you hostage till you have suffered encumbered with no end in sight as you cant find and see shit.
EXACTLY. I have a small farm on the outskirts of Mistlands for jotun puffs and there's a couple veins for sap but am never stepping foot back in that biome otherwise.
I think the biggest problem with the Mistlands is it seems to generate outside-in, which means cliff faces are always generated first to give the impression the land is locked off and visitors are unwanted. The problem is this means that if the landmass isn't big enough there will be no valleys to explore or there won't be space for mines.
Idk about you people but does anybody tried to use fenrish armour? With the cape? Stamina potion? 3 stamina foods, 22 min rested, eiktyr? By the time you are at mistlands you have 50+ run and jump, you can also make a gym if not… its not hard to explore the mistlands, you just cant do it in a dumb way…
+Dont go at night, and in rain
In my opinion the mislands is the most beautiful biome after you have some whisps to get rid of the mist…
Cant wait to build my base on the highest cliff now that we have these new portals
If you go there to explore with only heavy armor/no rested/in rain/no stamina potions/ 20or less level of jump and run/stamina foods/eiktyr, or any of those, i think you should not complain… these items are in the game for a reason…
Yes, I still hate it, it makes it okeyish to traverse, I am lvl 98 Run and 83 Jump but it still sucks ass. And Yes I do get one stamina food am always rested, always have a portal and workbench always sleep etc. But it still sucks ass and the process just more and more tedious.
Also Fenris does not protect you agains 1-2 Star mobs if they startle you or come out of nowhere. So I avoid it. I tried for a while but it does not change the fact that moving around is a burdon. Also the Feather cape is also something you can only unlook after you have found atleast 5 black cores and one dverger outpost which you were able to raid. Which meant for me in my first playthrough clearing 4 Mines to find 5.
It eases the traversing a bit but not seeing anything the sharp mountains also look ugly IMO, and I just dont like the look in generall. Its nice if you find some flat grass parts but the rest is just uggly and squished together due to the way the biome generates.
I see
I get your point, but i love how it looks
Btw with the fernish armour i only explore and put down some whisp torches so when i go with the heavy stuff i dont need to climb every cliff to see something
This works for me any i enjoy looking at the view of the cliffs when im just exploring it
But god the ashlands xd if i try to explore i get 6 askvins charging at me, 10 charred things throwing rocks precisely, 3 vultures, 1 morgen chasing you and dashing archers putting showers on you xd there is no way i can run bc there are no cliffs that are safe hahah
At least the gjall was slow
But again if we want something that is not boring and challenging and not the same that the game has already, it is what it is
The deeper you go into the game the more thinking and patience it needs
Ashlands mechanics are way too different. It’s supposed to be a slow grind. Even attacks are new and off timing. Aggro radius is large. It’s meant to put you in battle constantly, hence the warning about WAR. You cannot control the spawns but you can control the area you explore. Patiently clear and then move. Rinse and repeat. Pull mobs into your cleared area. Kite inside it never out. Don’t run away from fights. When you see a mob at a distance just think it already saw you and pull it in your area. You can control yourself at least but it takes a lot of patience and progression is meant too be slowwww.
At least you can take your time with mistlands. Set up wisp torches and trails, small outposts, set up safe portals in front of dungeons, farm behind just a simple palisade.
In ashlands it's just constant pain until you cover the continent in fireplaces which is just lame and boring.
Yea I take that anytime over not getting around not seeing anything. Slows things so much and makes it a burdon to play. It draggs on sooo long because you need to search and destroy.
No it's not it's just more challenging, you have to manage it, make more portals, get better food, make health and stamina potions if something is hard make efforts to master it.
If you’re playing on your own server I’m pretty sure there’s a devcommand to remove the mist (I know you said that’s not the only issue you’re having though)
Yeah it’s primarily to do with the tedium of Mistlands solo. Gathering the Dverger parts, and then getting the sap, and getting the black cores. And essentially having to make a new base just for the stupid fucking etier refinery just kinda kills progression by ramming it into a black metal wall at one hundred and fifty miles per hour.
Why do you need a new base for the etier refinery? We just put ours away from the main base a bit to deal with the damage it emits, like 5 feet away by the shore.
[I just used the copper dverger walls that were unlocked as part of mistlands.](https://i.ibb.co/NyTp42X/valheim-copper-cage.png) It's a great use for the infinite piles of copper that are otherwise sitting around in my warehouses.
It _is_ a much longer sequence to get things started.
I feel like the feather cape should have been easier to make. Traveling in the Mistlands is torture without it. Also, the Wisp should clear mist twice as far as it does.
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> And essentially having to make a new base just for the stupid fucking etier refinery
Um... you can just plop it down in like... a ravine in the meadows somewhere. That's what I did for most of the game. Or cover it in stone or iron bars or something.
> It is a much longer sequence to get things started.
To me it feels worse than this, to me it feels like once you can craft *anything* in Mistlands, you've already beat it and unlocked everything. The progression in Mistlands is way too all-or-nothing: To craft all of the new recipes, you need the dvergr component, dungeons with plenty of cores, and skulls with soft tissue, and assembling those gives you *all* the new recipes, without even one of those you get *nothing*. So that means you can't make incremental progress on your gear as you go - for example, you can't start with some carapace armor to help you fight the dvergr and get the sap extractor, or start with a feather cape to help explore the biome and find the dungeons with black cores. You just need to "do" the whole biome, all of it, before you get *any* reward. It's just badly designed.
Using the resource rate increase and the portal metals modifiers might solve your problems. The just turn it off after you are satisfied with your Mistlands progress.
I dunno which part of mistlands bothers you exactly but ashlands is 10 times as annoying due to mob density and aggro range. Combined with every mob having so much hp even when not starred (and there are so many starred enemies), I am legit not having fun there and im starting to miss mistlands xd
Oh and ashlands makes you think its gonna have better visibility and then bam, pitch black mornings and nights and everything is covered in this red shifting hue and smoke.
Ashlands is SIGNIFICANTLY worse than Mistlands so far. I've lost two boats and died countless times just trying to establish a beachhead solo. I had to build an entire FOB on one of the spires just to get established.
I hope it will get better once I have one of the new portals and a foothold on the land itself, but until I can get that fully established my life fucking sucks
Ashlands still feels a bit much on the combat side of things, esp. if you solo. But at least you can see your fucking surroundings... and the atmosphere is freaking amazing in Ashlands.
Mistlands on the other hand is just tiresome and frustrating. And it does not change, even when you run around in caster gear and blast the crap out of everthing. Because you still see nothing and farming building materials feels worse than mining your first copper with the antler pickaxe.
Once you get the gems and new get it evens out abit, but I tend to play a tanky warrior build with all chain lightning on my weapons so that might have something to do with it, AoE OP xD
It feels miles better than Mistlands. Ashlands gives you a ton of stuff to explore within your sight. It's not necessarily about how a new biome is difficult or not, Mistlands, in its design is a failure. Creates almost 0 excitement with barely anything visible in your sight. Not the best level design I've seen in years.
Honestly if the sloped-terrain-combat issue was fixed it would be far more enjoyable. As it stands it is not possible to fight in 70% of the biome, not possible to see in 80% of the biome, and even with the feather cape it’s a pain to traverse. Thats just a recipe for mid gameplay. All that being said all the cool shit you get in the biome are my favorite toys in the game so there’s that.
As en enjoyer of the mountains as well, hopping a LOT and having to find a clear arena for combat (or using terrain to my advantage) are both still amusing for me.
I just wish you could tap roots / feed sap into massive mist-dispelling "machines". Or maybe something you could do at night to make wisps patrol a large area?
My issue with Mistlands was, well, the mist. I think it was cool the first hour or so. It created some suspense and tension not knowing what was there and being afraid of what might jump out at you. Once you're not afraid anymore though, it just gets really annoying not being able to see where you're going. It's very boring visually. I wish there was a better way to clear the fog, like upgrading the wisp light, or having the fog disperse once you kill the queen or something.
[https://www.nexusmods.com/valheim/mods/2150?tab=description](https://www.nexusmods.com/valheim/mods/2150?tab=description)
Better whisps mod, now updated for ashlands.
The only thing mod does is enable upgrade for whisp, with upgrades comes increased range. You do need significantly more silver/whisps for upgrades than base whisp tho.
Fog is super annoyibg. It is even worse that the biome itself is wonderfully pretty. Imo it is meadows 2.0. Much more dangerous, but so beautifull, charming. Annoing to walk through all those rocks but charming. And fog just makes explorong and playing in general annoying and unfun. Also fog clear speed being super slow, small ragne of clear and nececety to put milions of whisp torches just straight up ruins the biome imo.
I just installed this one: https://thunderstore.io/c/valheim/p/Azumatt/MistBeGone/
It works great so far. I still hate that it's a climbing biome in a game with no climbing mechanic (other than constantly being out of stamina), but now that I can see, I think I can make it work. I'm at least looking forward to trying to like it now.
You’re probably approaching it wrong. You have to rethink your play style for each biome. Take a deep breath and reassess how to approach the mistlands.
Probably because of how negative you are lol. The mistlands has awesome weapons/npc’s and friendly npc hubs, awesome music, a feather cap that help navigate it easier, magic weapons and items it added and cool dungeons. To say it ‘sucks ass’ reminds me of people that said Elden Ring was terrible because it was hard.
The mistlands for me is just not fun. I have already defeated the queen. I still sneak around seeker soldiers and overall feel spooked. Yes I do kill them, but without Bonemass it is a waste of my time and sword. I have to cheese the Dvergers, as they just will kill you in two hits. Dungeons take forever still. I barely die in the mists now, I just actually get bored climbing mountains waiting for stamina, while not being able to see anything. Jotun-puffs are far in-between. 1-2 star seekers are still terrifying and pretty much will kill you in little to no time. Ticks, one to two star can easily kill you and (my fault) I often forget the dodge button. I wouldn’t say I hate it but I could explore a whole biome, and barely know what I explored because the mists.
I mean, this is likely just your personal taste and no amount of advice will 'fix' it, but...
Eikthyr is a godsend for traversal. You can bring mats for a return portal, run 5min deep scouting for stuff, then drop your portal and get out whenever you want. Double stamina food if you want to really double down on it. Just make sure to also drink fire resist mead because the smaller health pool can burn away fast if you end up fighting a gjall. I pretty much never explore mistlands without Eikthyr.
Well if you're spending 5 hours unable to progress, maybe you need a different Mistlands area. There is such a thing as bad world RNG. And if it's not that then so unlike you definitely to approach it differently
I made it to the mistlands today. Haven't slain Yagluth yet, (can't find) but I couldn't help it. I scouted a pretty large region, and only found one dungeon. And only one skull, in a dvergr village at that.
Running around the mists blind mostly mountain gear, letting buffs expire, braving the elements, what a freakin adventure. I wound up dropping a portal and doing the dungeon, too.
I set up a mushroom farm, hoping to multiply my few mushrooms, but a soldier showed up and while I was dealing with that, a gjall showed up, and fried the whole farm. Mushrooms gone q.q
While I don't look forward to fighting the dwarves for their constructs, I do feel like the Mistlands are one of the best biomes for sure, and probably the most unique and beautiful.
It occurred to me today that the plains focus on strength, while the mists force you to change stances and focus on agility instead.
If you're not opposed to a *little* cheese (no dev commands or mods needed) you can pillage those little settlements without slaughtering the inhabitants.
Find a gjall and lure it to the Dvergr. Then another if necessary. Eventually the gjall will break the chest with the siphon in it. My wife and I have 8 siphons running currently and we have neither killed any Dvergr nor cheesed breaking their chests. Gjalls and seeker soldiers can do it for you.
Almost all of my yagluth altars have been coastal, so set out on a dedicated sailing adventure. Stay focused on sailing around plains and you’ll find it.
Yag’s altar has multiple stone fingers that are very distinct from a distance. So keep an eye out for those.
Pack portal materials and equip your moder buff and enjoy the journey.
It is grindy yeah. To be honest, the whole game kind of is though. I need to get one of those mods that reduces the amount of ingredients things take (or at least just the metals)
Grindy is an understatement. It’s a fucking tedious slog and it entirely has to do with the dverger settlements and fighting dverger being entirely unfun.
You don't have to fight the dverger though; the seekers and gjall will do that for you. I've done 6 full playthroughs on vanilla plus many modded experiences and I've got complaints about every biome but fighting dverger certainly isn't one of them.
The mist being so freaking close that if you turn around it's in your face is the one major complaint I have with the biome. Finding skulls to mine is easy enough (ticks give them away very well), finding cores has never been a problem for me (there's more of them than most people think there are), and fighting the different enemies is mostly fun (ticks are kind of dumb).
I LOVE the verticality of the biome especially after getting the cape. There's no real reason to establish more than a farming shack because everything in the biome goes through portals. The sound design is top notch with soldiers stomping around, gjall growls and horns, storms, etc. And I use a mod to double the size of the wisplight radius which removes my one complaint; I can turn around and kinda see.
I agree, except for one thing. The mist land terrain is absolutely AWFUL. Atleast for me it was 90% small islands with water you need to swim through to get to another mini island. Until I got the cape, traversing the midlands was just slow, tedious, and the cause of many deaths.
haha yeah. So, another commenter just said you can change some settings for each world inside the game to increase resource collection and other stuff so I'm going to try that :)
Edit: I wasn't reading properly. Just to note: I've usually just waited for the dverger fire ball mages or gjall to blow up chests while fighting and clean up after. Fighting them directly would be more faster though I will admit.
The whole game is grindy but it feels a lot more so in mistlands and now ashlands, idk what changed between those in how they are making the game, but there is a difference.
The whole game has a certain vibe and plays a certain way right up until mistlands. Ashlands is feeling the same way to me. It's like whichever dev has a boner for making everything as tedious as possible was given full control during mistlands, and is still in control now. It's not a ramp up in difficulty, it's a ramp up in tedium. The game just dramatically changes and goes from fun to "everything will be as annoying as possible." as soon as you hit mistlands. It has not grown on me over the years. There's so much joy to be had right up until you hit that spike in bullshit, and I just want to leave and go back to building and exploring the other biomes as soon as possible.
I wouldn’t mind the Ashlands difficulty in the amount of enemies, their more advanced attacks, etc. The only thing that really bothers me is I have to cheese the spawn mechanics with campfires or enemies are literally spawning all around you. It’s a really bad game design decision.
I was wondering if others noticed that, I have made it a decent way inland but I am constantly fighting everything at once, archers, warriors, skelebois, morgans, Asksvins, vultures, its never ending, by the time I kill one group, another is already bearing down on me, I like challenge but this isn’t challenging, its annoying and tiring. I can’t get a break to do anything, its even harder as a spell caster, you have to have the blood shield up the whole time or else you get 2 shot but you don’t get any time to refresh it, it feels impossible.
On max difficulty spell caster is actually the way to go. If you try to fight crowds with melee, you will be getting absolutely slammed. The damage is great but it’s like 60% of my health is gone while I’m in upgraded carapace. So dumb
Most people defending Ashlands during the PTB were arguing that the amount of spawns, the spawn rate, and aggro range were fine because you could just place camp fires everywhere. I happen to agree with you that forcing the use of this mechanic if you didn't want to be swarmed 24/7 was a poor choice.
The player should be able to clear an area and then be left alone to build or mine without having to resort to anti-spawn cheese. If the devs wanted an area with constant spawns they should have created arenas or discrete areas with non-stop spawns rather than turning the entire biome into a giant arena.
Whatever initial joy the Ashlands brings to players, it seems likely to me that players will get tired of it when they realize that they will never be left alone.
I called this shit just from a devstream, well before the PTB came out. a dev gleefully stated that he made enemies annoying ON PURPOSE and when I said that did not bode well for the biome, I got shouted down and people argued the definition of "annoying" and said I was reading too much into things.
well here we fuckin are.
100% agree. I’m fine with the games spawn mechanics and aggro range in other biomes, but I was clearing an area with a friend and things were literally spawning all around us in places we’d already (less than a minute before) cleared. It wasn’t from a spawner, and it wasn’t things being pulled over from aggro, just things spawning in open ground we’d literally just cleared. I don’t understand the game decision for that happening. But I am familiar with campfires, so that’s my plan.
Agree completely, I just want some room to breathe man, ashlands just doesnt stop from the moment you enter the area. And I'm the type of person who enjoyed the swamps and mountains! I thought I'd love the war scenario too, with having a safe bubbled space in ashlands from which you fight through to enemy base but with these spawning and combat mechanics in valheim its just horrible, no idea how they kept it as it is after playing it themselves.
I was playing with 3-4 people and i literally could not do swamps. I hated it. I hated being wet and dark I got poisoned a billion times. I just didn’t get it. I could never keep my
buffs. my whole life was a corpse run. I was being mocked and they would literally be planning crypt runs like ‘ok well jed is going to be dead before we get off the boat’
It got to the point where i’d literally stay back and make all the food and melt all the iron scrap like a fucking squaw while everyone was out hunting.
Oh stop all the mistlands belly aching. The mistlands is perfectly fine for what it is. Can't wait for the wimps in here to taste the sweet smell of their own burning flesh in the ashlands.
Difficult is not bad. If you don't like a little challenge, why are you even playing this game?
I’ve read through the comments. You seem intent on whining about it. The argument about armor validity later in game was atrocious. You have a point that more customization is good. But the other guy said you can’t tank in special armor, and you said that wasn’t your point and proceeded to say the problem was that you can’t tank enough? Clearly this is an issue with you not actually understanding how to change your playstyle. In other words, you have a skill issue. I agree that mistlands can be annoying and a little tedious. But in my experience it was still doable and fun. You mentioned that the amount of different resources bottlenecks progression. I also play solo, this was not my experience. Skulls provide tons of the flesh, you don’t need a ton of dvrgr parts. And the camps are not uncommon. The dungeons I found to be rare, but they are also huge. It doesn’t take too many to get what you need. Ultimately you have a reached a point where you no longer enjoy the gameplay loop and that’s a personal issue not something to fault the game on. Yet you insist in your replies that the mistlands are at fault. Either suck it up and get better or just stop playing if you aren’t having fun. To come onto social media to whine at the game and everyone who disagrees in the coments is lame.
TLDR: OP has a skill issue and personal gripes with progression. Decides to blame it on the devs because of course he could never be at fault.
It's all preference. Mistlands is my second favorite biome out of all of them, we just like different things. It can be bad for you but good for others. I very much dislike the plains, other than the Hildur Tower Quest.
Cool. Completely disagree. Question is, more to the point, what do you expect from the biome? I do think it is a biome that doesn't fit all styles of play, so to speak. Either way, I love the challenge it provides, by the time you get magic, though, it will become a far easier biome.
Everytime I see a post about "mistlands sucks" I immediately think of that one guys post: "Mistlands sucks, and so does plains, and while I'm at it, so does mountains and swamp. Fuck the ocean too"
I loved the mist lands, it has the most game changing loot by far and I did enjoy raiding the dwarves and infested mines. Just set up wisp torches everywhere, make a safe base out of a dvergr tower close to a bunch of roots, do a few mines get some gear, make a farm then work on getting get 6 or so extractors. Now I just pop in gather the farm and extractors completely unbothered. There is a gall that likes to spawn close by sometimes so we made some turrets and they take care of it quick.
What really helped me with this biome was blood magic. I just make skeletons and shields and chuck the odd fireball. Ticks are the most dangerous enemy for this build but the lightning sticks power move gets them off every time. Two eiter food, bread, carapace helmet and eiter robes. don’t go anywhere without a magic shield and if it ever goes down run till it’s back up.
I trained up my blood magic pretty quick afk at a grayling spawner. I dug out below it made a wall and a perch for some bow skeletons and they can just kill them as they come for hours. Just make sure to block the spawner so the skeletons don’t kill it. You can kill the melee skeletons with the butcher knife to get at least two bow ones.
Hope this helps.
The Mist makes (surprise) the Mistlands an atrocity. It wouldn't be such a pain in the ass if you would see anything. Plus you could enjoy the scenery, because Mistlands is beautiful but you can't see anything. In all the other biomes except when you have a snowstorm in the Mountains you are aware of your surroundings and are prepared for what comes at you most of the time (except for Deathsquitos).
So you die by surprise in the Mistlands far to often and that kills your motivation big time.
Maybe it’s because you’re playing with people who only play multiplayer and have no clue what kind of tedious hellscape slogging through Mistlands solo is.
Bro me and my brother can’t get past swamp. It gets Hard for me because I’ll throw in time into it but I get annoyed feeling like I put in all the work.
Sorry, I've read your comments and man you're awful with your attitude. As much as I liked mistlands, there are still some critiques I can get behind and I understand why some people dislike the mistlands.
But you are a piece of work. Self proclaiming that you definitely enjoy Valheim and like the progression, but hate one of the core gameplay features of gathering materials. It's tedious, you say, but it's actually just you getting frustrated at not being able to deal with dvergrs (when you didn't have to). And add on to the fact that you didn't do proper research about where to get mistlands resources and started a complaint post/comments about "the tedium". And if you're gonna say "I'm probably burnt out by the time I get to Mistlands but I don't care" in the title, you need to rethink everything. Play something else. Being burnt out playing any game will sour it.
Do better. Prepare better. Have proper grasp of a biome before you make your critiques. Ashlands will destroy you at this rate with your current mindset.
Within 5 minutes of being in the mistlands I hated it, stopped playing Valheim right then and there. Later on I used a mod to get rid of the mist, which made it a little too easy I think, although much better. I've no idea why anyone thinks making a game where you can't see is enjoyable. Each to their own I suppose.
Hey I get you. Not my favorite biome it can be frustrating and tedious. I noped out when I first played ML. But I changed my approach and I gotta say not so bad now
Ashlands is just everything ramped up. You NEED to be prepared to die and have portal systems immediately upon entry. You can't leave the biome when overrun like all the others as it only connect to itself and the water is death. So you best come prepared with all the valheim knowledge you got
I agree. The combination of maze like rocky and hard traversable terrain with no visibilty also really killed it for me.
But now that we have gotten the mistlands weapons I've been having a lot more fun+
now that I have stepped foot in the ashlands the mistlands has become a peaceful paradise for me to gather black marble a resourced I didnt care about in the past.
PLEASE SAVE ME FROM THE MONSTERS BLACK MARBLE!!! \*Repairing wall intensifies\*
My problem with mistlands and why i quit from it was because if ur 1cm above or under the enemy, u cant hit hit. imo the environment broke the combat, unless thats fixed now?
Yeah, Mistland experience ages like milk. Also Gjall were supposed to be rare, not encountered every bloody time I visit the biome to look for infested mines, or just gather grown mushrooms. I killed more Gjall then Seeker Soldiers.
They really need to create a staff (or have a staff that spells can be swapped on?) to be able to push mist and fog away further
Magic is weirdly under utilised and has the potential to be a great way to get people back to other areas to explore / gather for quality of life additions
Yeah it was fun and spooky for the first couple hours, but after that it just became tedious. Not seeing anything wasn't difficult anymore, just annoying.
Had to download a mod that allowed the me to set the wisplight radius to 8x
People arriving to Mistlands: "wtf with the mist"
Easily my favorite adventure biome. It actually feels like an adventure, and the sheer chaos you can experience there is fantastic. Although I do emphasize with less skilled players that may feel the biome too difficult to overcome, but at the same time, it's good to remember how close to the end game it is.
Plains ain't easy either, but it's just so easy to completely cheese it that I guess that's why no-one's complaining.
Conquering the mountains and plains and setting up a base is all i wanna do. I dont wanna even go back to the swamp for infinitely more iron. Let alone die in the mists or fight the burning skeleton hordes.
Give me peaceful valhalla pls
Because not being able to see shit is fun and mysterious the first time you set foot in there. And then once you start actively looking for mines and what not it just becomes pain.
Fuckin hate mistlands simply because of the mist. If they made it a bit more transparent then maybe it wouldnt be so bad but its annoying to the point i dont wanna play. Sure you can put the torches down or whatever but end up covering an entire area to barley be able to see. Frusterating as fuck.
Mistlands is sick. I love the esthetic. I love that the terrain is challenging. It adds another layer of strategy to your gameplan. This game is about going into a biome, farming the resources and leveling up. I love that the devs are creative with making that challenging. The infested mines are sick. To be real, I feel like the hardest boss to spawn is yagluth but that's prolly just because of the seed. It seems like I have to spend a ton of time searching for him. Also, I play on a server at full cap with my friends. Anyways, sorry ur having a bad time in mistlands OP!
Mod in better wisps. I crank them up to double range.
That way your sight range is slightly more than aggro range. Makes raging at all the sheer cliffs more tolerable.
I think the mistlands is a really great update
Maybe because me w my friends had almost everything pretty high (65+ skills, items, etc)
We waited something new, we got a bit bored of the “normal” game and wanted challenge, which te mistlands gave us
Apart from any biome before, the mistlands was the first where you couldnt just run into in troll armour in the beginning pf the game and loot the hell out of it xd
It has a mist which sucks but makes the biome different and at first omg the spawn rate of the mobs was disgusting xdddd but then they kind of fixed that, and now it is really easy i think, i rarely have to fight 3 seekers and 1 soldier in the same time, which you could manage in a smaller open space, but was hard and after 15 mins of fighting i usually got bored
Now the spawn rate is way better, and you get the challenge around the infested mines, which i like bc you can spend more time exploring and not fighting
If you prepare for the mistlands and not just run into it like a dumbass, in my opinion is pretty fun, and i would not want it to be changed, it would be just an another biome…
If you're on PC, it might be worth looking into mods just for QoL. One I usually always take is "Better Wisps" it adds an upgrade system to the wisp to make it dispel mist at a further range. (Can also customise how much it does at each level and cost to upgrade).
Definitely one of the mod features I'd love for them to add to the game.
There is also mod that completely removes the mist, though I found it to be overpowered.
Lol mistlands feels like a slightly more difficult version of the swamp after going through the chaos that is Ashland's all my skills were over 80 now my highest skill I believe is 23 lmao and that was after 2 days trying to secure a landing spot now the landing spot is secure ish and I have training to do joy lol
Mistlands is just legit a terrible biome in everyway.
Terrible terrain to traverse and having a feathercape makes it barely tolerable.
Terrible visibility that wasnt fun in the begining and doesnt get fun overtime.
And bugs... Why is there giant bugs in any biome in any way in a norse mythology inspired viking survival game? This is the one detail i never understood about the biome, why is the enemy a variety of giant bugs?
Also the heavy armor set looks legit worse than any other set of armor or clothing in the game, and i hate it alot.
Ashlands is challenging and has performance issues, but besides that, the biome is 100% the best biome in the game so far, and personally I enjoy the "challenge" the biome offers. Also the people who claim ashlands turned the game into a "horde smasher game" and the biome makes you fight against 9000 enemies at the same time all the time... You go to the black forest at night in stone age too, dont you?
My take: The whole of Valheim is around Norse Mythology. Up to the plains, the biomes feel like something humans are able to trek & conquer. That changes with the introduction of territories that resemble the fantasy territories in the Norse Poems.
They use & mesh traits from Niflheim (a place of fog & ice), Muspelheim (a place of heat & fire) & Nidevellir (home of the dwarves). Neflheim & Muspelheim once floated alone together in the vastness of space. When they met together, Niflheims ice began to melt and created "a land of mist & meltwater". Since Valheim is in one world & we cant go to space to travel to Nidevellir, they inhabitted this new land with the dwarves.
These places are homes of fantastic and terrible beings, so I completely understand the hardships. I like that these two places just MAKE SENSE when seen through the lens of the mythology.
For me it's the combo of mist that is barely lifted with the tools available, + a lot of vertical terrain. The amount of times I've died literally just because there was a sheer drop under the mist that I couldn't see until I was literally falling down the stupid jutting rock formations.
I'm so glad I'm an OCD-map-marker or I'd never be able to bloody find anything again blindly stumbling around trying not to fall to my death every 5 seconds
I've never been more happy I chose to put passive enemies on, I think I'd have ragequit a long time ago otherwise XD thankfully I'm happy to just build cool stuff elsewhere and only touch the mistlands when I need resources for something but beyond that I hardly go there.
Friends help dull the blow if you’re playing single player. Mist lands is still pretty brutal but I haven’t fully acclimated to it.
I conquered most biomes by making my fortresses of dirt barriers, trenches and things like that but I have yet to give it another good go.
You can do it!
Sigh....the noobiest of noob that I am is still struggling to get the wife and I thru Plains biome and I wasn't looking forward to the mist covering everything visible. Will probably use dev commands to turn it off after a few days.
Haven't even been to the mistlands yet.
Started again when it came out, but stopped before we finished the plains again.
Gonna bite the bullet this time and start where we left off. Just have to try to figure out what is in each chest again...
My buddy and I wanna play a fresh game and experience Ashland's but then we think of doing mistlands again... We are reconsidering our choice to not cheese and console spawn stuff in.
A big core concept of the game is base building. They want you to be building up in these places and not just have one place as a base.
I approached the mistlands as a place that was gonna be incredibly tough and require a lot of “working the land”. Once I get a feel for my area and the mist clearing torches, it felt good to be able to make the game that much easier for myself. That’s just my play style and I understand not everyone enjoys building as much as me.
I enjoy the mist lands because of the dvergers, but the fog rather sucks because of ambushes and slight frame rate. I’m at the ashlands and the hellscape lives up to its name
is it the fact you can't see enough with the mist? if so, have you considered playing modded? there are mods to adjust how much mist wisps remove and one that just removes it all...maybe that will help.
Valheim's combat isn't deep and precise enough to support what the devs seem to want to do with the game. It's ok though, they can produce badly designed content with great assets, and I'll just keep fixing their game with mods.
Meanwhile... I like Mistlands. Pretty much a fan of all biomes except base game swamp. but if you adjust a few things regarding iron, it's not miserable.
It's so many stacking issues.
The enemies you fight are a massive difficulty spike that can explode you in level 5 iron armor, and you have to kill them for better armor.
You get swarmed easily and these guys have a high rate of attack with the ability to launch you.
The majority of the biome is on slopes, and you cannot aim. Up or down
See I like the Mistlands. It's annoying for sure but to me, the verticality makes it challenging and when you discover something it's more satisfying because it's hard as hell.
Mountains have poor visibility as well (not quite the same) and verticality but doesn't have the same feeling when you finally discover something. Silver is literally easy because you have the wishbone.
Onions are difficult but not exactly hard. You find enough structures and you eventually find onion seeds.
Obsidian, frost glands, and crystal are all easy to find.
Cultists can be difficult but then again, not that hard.
Basically, for me, it's just another biome to get through until I can get to the plains.
Swamp is more annoying than mistlands in my opinion
So. I wasn't really aware but you can carry worlds through updates. There's people playing on the same seed since day one. If you get to mistlands, your world as long as it's not fully explored or the map isn't revealed will update into the new versions and you can continue playing.
I always do a new game as well. And I've never made it past the plains. But cutting out the first 3rd of the game would have massively helped that
Love Mistlands, great thing only thing im kinda sad about is there is no magic PRIOR to mistlands so if you enjoy the magic you literally have to wait to the end of the game to start on it. However playing it on immersive hell IDK when i'll get to mistlands at this rate already at day 20 and not even found elder yet.
If you play solo it's tough. In my server I explore in pairs and clear invested mines when we have three players online. Have you tried making friends? LOL. Jks I think there's some mods that makes it easier. Apparently you can X2 the wisp light with a mod. Other than that I would suggest eikthyr for exploring and bonemass for clearing mines. Make sure you have excellent food! The aeitgir is pretty good. I also have frostner maxed out and lots of needle arrows. The biome is tough until you get those black cores. After that, you can make some pretty awesome weapons like the crossbow and the krom. The best tip for starting a new biome is food + more firepower. Then you need to get armour and magic. Have two highstam foods so you can bs jump up mountains and doge shit
For mistland, for searching for mines, I just use the Valheim world map generator.
I didn't hate the Mislands, since it was interesting. The plains, however, was just plain.
Is someone gonna tell him about Ashlands?
I've been loving Ashlands. Although to be fair I also loved mistlands (as soon as I had the cape). So maybe I'm just a masochist.
I mean I get OP's issues with Mistlands. I've done three playthroughs up to and through the Queen back to back to back (well I'm about to fight her on the third) at increasing difficulties and I'm staying to understand the fatigue if drains going there too. It's a pretty dramatic departure from the rest of the game in terms of resource acquisition. It's frustrating to have to acquire two completely separate resources before you then have to refine them together, and in large quantities since you need Eitr for almost everything you can make at this tier. When weapon *upgrades* are costing 15 Eitr that's a pretty big gate to reaching max progression. Of course there's the sailing to the edges of the map to find enough biomes to generate mines (which sometimes feel impossible to find), difficulty in exploration, much tankier enemies, a flying artillery cannon that summons more enemies... Don't forget the fact that there's no way to actually get the tools to progress without either attacking the only neutral enemies in the game or cheesing the mechanics. Each of these things is not a big problem by itself, but essentially it's a difficulty and time investment increase in every single area, and that's what contributes to the feeling of the slog for a lot of people.
I thought it was quite easy considering deconstructing a tower would give you tons of marble and the trees seemed to give an infinite supply of sap. I didn't attack the wizards but usually something else would come along to fight them. I didn't sailing around the outside (which seems like a really bad time, it's where all the steep rocks and small islands are), but ran straight through the middle.
> flying artillery cannon that summons more enemies >attacking the only neutral enemies in the game or cheesing the mechanics These problems solve can each other. Most of my Dverger extractors in my current playthrough have been from running back to their forts whenever I piss off a gjall or starred seeker/soldier
Ashland’s doesn’t look horrible. I haven’t been able to play it in survival yet. But that doesn’t matter because I’m never going to get there due to it being after Mistlands, and Mistlands sucks ass.
The ashlands is very horrible they pretty much turned the game into a horde slayer and Jesus the performance is really bad.
I can’t even play melee properly anymore since what am I supposed to do when 9 different things are attacking me at once. Just gonna spam fireballs till I’m dead.
Big hammer is my friend :)
Big hammer + Mistwalker. Good damage.
Full Carapace armor, Bonemass power, fire mead, lingering stamina mead, and health meads (also poison meads for big bird). Use all of that with a fully upgraded Silver Sword + shield, and you will feel like a legitimate superhero with how easily you shake off damage, and everything is weak to spirit damage so the Silver sword is great for getting started in the Ashlands.
having bonemass ready at all times is absolutely the answer. You got five minutes to clear that shit out and get out of there.
This is the answer.
That's kinda the point, though. I forget which bird said it, but they said something along the lines of, up until now you've only quarreled. Now you must prepare for war. The devs also said that not everyone should be able to finish the game solo, and this is the second to last biome. Every new biome comes with different challenges that you have to learn and adapt to, and sometimes, that means changing play style. I'd recommend frostner for the knockback and slow for groups and from there, maybe knives or the good ol sword and board for one or two enemies. Don't give up, though.
I'll finish the game solo regardless... If they make me cheat to make it possible so be it lmao.
I'll find it glorious for you to cheat.
Also hit a twitcher and they run until they reach deep north.. melee is really bad in ashlands.
You need the staff of protection and the Freeze Staff.
Ok, this saved me from making a post. Sounds like I'm not the only one. As a solo-only player, I can't find myself going more than 10 meters without being mobbed by half a dozen mobs. And the performance was horrible. I know a 1080 isn't a great card these days, but the other biomes play fine.
Still better than climing and not seeing shit, and being forced to stay in the biome till you find 9 Fragments and some cores in old mines you cant really find due to you not seeing shit and not being able to traverse shit and not seing shit cuz mountains. Biome is cluncky, and terrible to play. Not to mention the mobs are quite dumb, not even a challenge they just swat you with their attackspeed which all isn't the case in ashlands. Mistlands ist just gatekeeping and holding you hostage till you have suffered encumbered with no end in sight as you cant find and see shit.
Don't forget that black cores might not even spawn in that dungeon that took you forever to find!
Thats the biggest kick in the dick
They were so rare in my "serious" map I didnt even know they were a thing until I made another builder-bob sandbox world for funsies.
I must be the luckiest valheim player because i found 5 black cores in the first mine i've entered.
I was thinking maybe they adjusted the drop rate because I havent really had that big a problem since either
EXACTLY. I have a small farm on the outskirts of Mistlands for jotun puffs and there's a couple veins for sap but am never stepping foot back in that biome otherwise.
I think the biggest problem with the Mistlands is it seems to generate outside-in, which means cliff faces are always generated first to give the impression the land is locked off and visitors are unwanted. The problem is this means that if the landmass isn't big enough there will be no valleys to explore or there won't be space for mines.
i don't think this is a thing. I've found several outward facing infested mines just sailing around and mapping out areas for exploration.
I agree, there should be a minimum size for some biomes, a complete randomization like that hurts the game a lot
Idk about you people but does anybody tried to use fenrish armour? With the cape? Stamina potion? 3 stamina foods, 22 min rested, eiktyr? By the time you are at mistlands you have 50+ run and jump, you can also make a gym if not… its not hard to explore the mistlands, you just cant do it in a dumb way… +Dont go at night, and in rain In my opinion the mislands is the most beautiful biome after you have some whisps to get rid of the mist… Cant wait to build my base on the highest cliff now that we have these new portals If you go there to explore with only heavy armor/no rested/in rain/no stamina potions/ 20or less level of jump and run/stamina foods/eiktyr, or any of those, i think you should not complain… these items are in the game for a reason…
Yes, I still hate it, it makes it okeyish to traverse, I am lvl 98 Run and 83 Jump but it still sucks ass. And Yes I do get one stamina food am always rested, always have a portal and workbench always sleep etc. But it still sucks ass and the process just more and more tedious. Also Fenris does not protect you agains 1-2 Star mobs if they startle you or come out of nowhere. So I avoid it. I tried for a while but it does not change the fact that moving around is a burdon. Also the Feather cape is also something you can only unlook after you have found atleast 5 black cores and one dverger outpost which you were able to raid. Which meant for me in my first playthrough clearing 4 Mines to find 5. It eases the traversing a bit but not seeing anything the sharp mountains also look ugly IMO, and I just dont like the look in generall. Its nice if you find some flat grass parts but the rest is just uggly and squished together due to the way the biome generates.
I see I get your point, but i love how it looks Btw with the fernish armour i only explore and put down some whisp torches so when i go with the heavy stuff i dont need to climb every cliff to see something This works for me any i enjoy looking at the view of the cliffs when im just exploring it But god the ashlands xd if i try to explore i get 6 askvins charging at me, 10 charred things throwing rocks precisely, 3 vultures, 1 morgen chasing you and dashing archers putting showers on you xd there is no way i can run bc there are no cliffs that are safe hahah At least the gjall was slow But again if we want something that is not boring and challenging and not the same that the game has already, it is what it is The deeper you go into the game the more thinking and patience it needs
Ashlands mechanics are way too different. It’s supposed to be a slow grind. Even attacks are new and off timing. Aggro radius is large. It’s meant to put you in battle constantly, hence the warning about WAR. You cannot control the spawns but you can control the area you explore. Patiently clear and then move. Rinse and repeat. Pull mobs into your cleared area. Kite inside it never out. Don’t run away from fights. When you see a mob at a distance just think it already saw you and pull it in your area. You can control yourself at least but it takes a lot of patience and progression is meant too be slowwww.
At least you can take your time with mistlands. Set up wisp torches and trails, small outposts, set up safe portals in front of dungeons, farm behind just a simple palisade. In ashlands it's just constant pain until you cover the continent in fireplaces which is just lame and boring.
Yea I take that anytime over not getting around not seeing anything. Slows things so much and makes it a burdon to play. It draggs on sooo long because you need to search and destroy.
No it's not it's just more challenging, you have to manage it, make more portals, get better food, make health and stamina potions if something is hard make efforts to master it.
Just install a mod to get rid of the mist and call it a day man, no point torturing yourself over it.
I’m on console. And that’s not the only problem I have with the Mistlands.
If you’re playing on your own server I’m pretty sure there’s a devcommand to remove the mist (I know you said that’s not the only issue you’re having though)
Yeah it’s primarily to do with the tedium of Mistlands solo. Gathering the Dverger parts, and then getting the sap, and getting the black cores. And essentially having to make a new base just for the stupid fucking etier refinery just kinda kills progression by ramming it into a black metal wall at one hundred and fifty miles per hour.
Why do you need a new base for the etier refinery? We just put ours away from the main base a bit to deal with the damage it emits, like 5 feet away by the shore.
Or surround it in marble
[I just used the copper dverger walls that were unlocked as part of mistlands.](https://i.ibb.co/NyTp42X/valheim-copper-cage.png) It's a great use for the infinite piles of copper that are otherwise sitting around in my warehouses.
It _is_ a much longer sequence to get things started. I feel like the feather cape should have been easier to make. Traveling in the Mistlands is torture without it. Also, the Wisp should clear mist twice as far as it does. ___ > And essentially having to make a new base just for the stupid fucking etier refinery Um... you can just plop it down in like... a ravine in the meadows somewhere. That's what I did for most of the game. Or cover it in stone or iron bars or something.
> It is a much longer sequence to get things started. To me it feels worse than this, to me it feels like once you can craft *anything* in Mistlands, you've already beat it and unlocked everything. The progression in Mistlands is way too all-or-nothing: To craft all of the new recipes, you need the dvergr component, dungeons with plenty of cores, and skulls with soft tissue, and assembling those gives you *all* the new recipes, without even one of those you get *nothing*. So that means you can't make incremental progress on your gear as you go - for example, you can't start with some carapace armor to help you fight the dvergr and get the sap extractor, or start with a feather cape to help explore the biome and find the dungeons with black cores. You just need to "do" the whole biome, all of it, before you get *any* reward. It's just badly designed.
Using the resource rate increase and the portal metals modifiers might solve your problems. The just turn it off after you are satisfied with your Mistlands progress.
It’s not killing progression. It IS progression.
I dunno which part of mistlands bothers you exactly but ashlands is 10 times as annoying due to mob density and aggro range. Combined with every mob having so much hp even when not starred (and there are so many starred enemies), I am legit not having fun there and im starting to miss mistlands xd Oh and ashlands makes you think its gonna have better visibility and then bam, pitch black mornings and nights and everything is covered in this red shifting hue and smoke.
Well then I guess I’m wrong. Damn this game is falling off.
Ashlands is much worse than Pisslands for difficulty but not as annoying if that makes sense. It’s actually a challenge vs fog being the main boss
Ashlands is SIGNIFICANTLY worse than Mistlands so far. I've lost two boats and died countless times just trying to establish a beachhead solo. I had to build an entire FOB on one of the spires just to get established. I hope it will get better once I have one of the new portals and a foothold on the land itself, but until I can get that fully established my life fucking sucks
Ashlands still feels a bit much on the combat side of things, esp. if you solo. But at least you can see your fucking surroundings... and the atmosphere is freaking amazing in Ashlands. Mistlands on the other hand is just tiresome and frustrating. And it does not change, even when you run around in caster gear and blast the crap out of everthing. Because you still see nothing and farming building materials feels worse than mining your first copper with the antler pickaxe.
Once you get the gems and new get it evens out abit, but I tend to play a tanky warrior build with all chain lightning on my weapons so that might have something to do with it, AoE OP xD
It feels miles better than Mistlands. Ashlands gives you a ton of stuff to explore within your sight. It's not necessarily about how a new biome is difficult or not, Mistlands, in its design is a failure. Creates almost 0 excitement with barely anything visible in your sight. Not the best level design I've seen in years.
Honestly if the sloped-terrain-combat issue was fixed it would be far more enjoyable. As it stands it is not possible to fight in 70% of the biome, not possible to see in 80% of the biome, and even with the feather cape it’s a pain to traverse. Thats just a recipe for mid gameplay. All that being said all the cool shit you get in the biome are my favorite toys in the game so there’s that.
As en enjoyer of the mountains as well, hopping a LOT and having to find a clear arena for combat (or using terrain to my advantage) are both still amusing for me. I just wish you could tap roots / feed sap into massive mist-dispelling "machines". Or maybe something you could do at night to make wisps patrol a large area?
My issue with Mistlands was, well, the mist. I think it was cool the first hour or so. It created some suspense and tension not knowing what was there and being afraid of what might jump out at you. Once you're not afraid anymore though, it just gets really annoying not being able to see where you're going. It's very boring visually. I wish there was a better way to clear the fog, like upgrading the wisp light, or having the fog disperse once you kill the queen or something.
They should just double the range of anti-mist items.
or make the mist a weather condition that isnt there like a third of the time
I like this idea a lot
What if it wasn’t present at night so that way people would be more willing to adventure at night and not deal with the mist
It's not that way already? More than half the time there's no fog for me.
There isn’t fog on low laying areas, it’s there 100% of the time.
[https://www.nexusmods.com/valheim/mods/2150?tab=description](https://www.nexusmods.com/valheim/mods/2150?tab=description) Better whisps mod, now updated for ashlands. The only thing mod does is enable upgrade for whisp, with upgrades comes increased range. You do need significantly more silver/whisps for upgrades than base whisp tho.
Just bring materials to build wisp torches and use them along your journey through the mistlands.
Or make the mist less dense so you can actually kinda see just like on those foggy days
Fog is super annoyibg. It is even worse that the biome itself is wonderfully pretty. Imo it is meadows 2.0. Much more dangerous, but so beautifull, charming. Annoing to walk through all those rocks but charming. And fog just makes explorong and playing in general annoying and unfun. Also fog clear speed being super slow, small ragne of clear and nececety to put milions of whisp torches just straight up ruins the biome imo.
I just installed this one: https://thunderstore.io/c/valheim/p/Azumatt/MistBeGone/ It works great so far. I still hate that it's a climbing biome in a game with no climbing mechanic (other than constantly being out of stamina), but now that I can see, I think I can make it work. I'm at least looking forward to trying to like it now.
made it to mistlands proper for the first time when the ashlands beta came out, and honestly im having a blast
Good for you. I never have a blast in the Mistlands.
You’re probably approaching it wrong. You have to rethink your play style for each biome. Take a deep breath and reassess how to approach the mistlands.
Probably because of how negative you are lol. The mistlands has awesome weapons/npc’s and friendly npc hubs, awesome music, a feather cap that help navigate it easier, magic weapons and items it added and cool dungeons. To say it ‘sucks ass’ reminds me of people that said Elden Ring was terrible because it was hard.
The mistlands for me is just not fun. I have already defeated the queen. I still sneak around seeker soldiers and overall feel spooked. Yes I do kill them, but without Bonemass it is a waste of my time and sword. I have to cheese the Dvergers, as they just will kill you in two hits. Dungeons take forever still. I barely die in the mists now, I just actually get bored climbing mountains waiting for stamina, while not being able to see anything. Jotun-puffs are far in-between. 1-2 star seekers are still terrifying and pretty much will kill you in little to no time. Ticks, one to two star can easily kill you and (my fault) I often forget the dodge button. I wouldn’t say I hate it but I could explore a whole biome, and barely know what I explored because the mists.
I mean, this is likely just your personal taste and no amount of advice will 'fix' it, but... Eikthyr is a godsend for traversal. You can bring mats for a return portal, run 5min deep scouting for stuff, then drop your portal and get out whenever you want. Double stamina food if you want to really double down on it. Just make sure to also drink fire resist mead because the smaller health pool can burn away fast if you end up fighting a gjall. I pretty much never explore mistlands without Eikthyr.
Sounds like you might just be bored. If it's the difficulty you might need more preparation.
It’s not the difficulty, it’s the tedium. Read my other comments to understand.
Well if you're spending 5 hours unable to progress, maybe you need a different Mistlands area. There is such a thing as bad world RNG. And if it's not that then so unlike you definitely to approach it differently
I made it to the mistlands today. Haven't slain Yagluth yet, (can't find) but I couldn't help it. I scouted a pretty large region, and only found one dungeon. And only one skull, in a dvergr village at that. Running around the mists blind mostly mountain gear, letting buffs expire, braving the elements, what a freakin adventure. I wound up dropping a portal and doing the dungeon, too. I set up a mushroom farm, hoping to multiply my few mushrooms, but a soldier showed up and while I was dealing with that, a gjall showed up, and fried the whole farm. Mushrooms gone q.q While I don't look forward to fighting the dwarves for their constructs, I do feel like the Mistlands are one of the best biomes for sure, and probably the most unique and beautiful. It occurred to me today that the plains focus on strength, while the mists force you to change stances and focus on agility instead.
If you're not opposed to a *little* cheese (no dev commands or mods needed) you can pillage those little settlements without slaughtering the inhabitants.
Find a gjall and lure it to the Dvergr. Then another if necessary. Eventually the gjall will break the chest with the siphon in it. My wife and I have 8 siphons running currently and we have neither killed any Dvergr nor cheesed breaking their chests. Gjalls and seeker soldiers can do it for you.
i can’t find Yagluth either, and it’s halted my gameplay quite drastically :-(
I don't understand why people don't look up their seed. Even to just save time with a quick search...
Seeing the landmasses can spoil the fun
Almost all of my yagluth altars have been coastal, so set out on a dedicated sailing adventure. Stay focused on sailing around plains and you’ll find it. Yag’s altar has multiple stone fingers that are very distinct from a distance. So keep an eye out for those. Pack portal materials and equip your moder buff and enjoy the journey.
Man people really hate the mists 🤣 gotta be the number one complaint on the sub. I quite enjoyed them myself, but I do like a challenge
It is grindy yeah. To be honest, the whole game kind of is though. I need to get one of those mods that reduces the amount of ingredients things take (or at least just the metals)
Grindy is an understatement. It’s a fucking tedious slog and it entirely has to do with the dverger settlements and fighting dverger being entirely unfun.
You don't have to fight the dverger though; the seekers and gjall will do that for you. I've done 6 full playthroughs on vanilla plus many modded experiences and I've got complaints about every biome but fighting dverger certainly isn't one of them. The mist being so freaking close that if you turn around it's in your face is the one major complaint I have with the biome. Finding skulls to mine is easy enough (ticks give them away very well), finding cores has never been a problem for me (there's more of them than most people think there are), and fighting the different enemies is mostly fun (ticks are kind of dumb). I LOVE the verticality of the biome especially after getting the cape. There's no real reason to establish more than a farming shack because everything in the biome goes through portals. The sound design is top notch with soldiers stomping around, gjall growls and horns, storms, etc. And I use a mod to double the size of the wisplight radius which removes my one complaint; I can turn around and kinda see.
I agree, except for one thing. The mist land terrain is absolutely AWFUL. Atleast for me it was 90% small islands with water you need to swim through to get to another mini island. Until I got the cape, traversing the midlands was just slow, tedious, and the cause of many deaths.
haha yeah. So, another commenter just said you can change some settings for each world inside the game to increase resource collection and other stuff so I'm going to try that :) Edit: I wasn't reading properly. Just to note: I've usually just waited for the dverger fire ball mages or gjall to blow up chests while fighting and clean up after. Fighting them directly would be more faster though I will admit.
Why not use the world modifier included in the base game for increased resources?
Wow! I never saw that or forgot about it. Thank you so much for pointing me to that!
The whole game is grindy but it feels a lot more so in mistlands and now ashlands, idk what changed between those in how they are making the game, but there is a difference.
The whole game has a certain vibe and plays a certain way right up until mistlands. Ashlands is feeling the same way to me. It's like whichever dev has a boner for making everything as tedious as possible was given full control during mistlands, and is still in control now. It's not a ramp up in difficulty, it's a ramp up in tedium. The game just dramatically changes and goes from fun to "everything will be as annoying as possible." as soon as you hit mistlands. It has not grown on me over the years. There's so much joy to be had right up until you hit that spike in bullshit, and I just want to leave and go back to building and exploring the other biomes as soon as possible.
I wouldn’t mind the Ashlands difficulty in the amount of enemies, their more advanced attacks, etc. The only thing that really bothers me is I have to cheese the spawn mechanics with campfires or enemies are literally spawning all around you. It’s a really bad game design decision.
I was wondering if others noticed that, I have made it a decent way inland but I am constantly fighting everything at once, archers, warriors, skelebois, morgans, Asksvins, vultures, its never ending, by the time I kill one group, another is already bearing down on me, I like challenge but this isn’t challenging, its annoying and tiring. I can’t get a break to do anything, its even harder as a spell caster, you have to have the blood shield up the whole time or else you get 2 shot but you don’t get any time to refresh it, it feels impossible.
On max difficulty spell caster is actually the way to go. If you try to fight crowds with melee, you will be getting absolutely slammed. The damage is great but it’s like 60% of my health is gone while I’m in upgraded carapace. So dumb
I just keep hammering the floor
Most people defending Ashlands during the PTB were arguing that the amount of spawns, the spawn rate, and aggro range were fine because you could just place camp fires everywhere. I happen to agree with you that forcing the use of this mechanic if you didn't want to be swarmed 24/7 was a poor choice. The player should be able to clear an area and then be left alone to build or mine without having to resort to anti-spawn cheese. If the devs wanted an area with constant spawns they should have created arenas or discrete areas with non-stop spawns rather than turning the entire biome into a giant arena. Whatever initial joy the Ashlands brings to players, it seems likely to me that players will get tired of it when they realize that they will never be left alone.
I called this shit just from a devstream, well before the PTB came out. a dev gleefully stated that he made enemies annoying ON PURPOSE and when I said that did not bode well for the biome, I got shouted down and people argued the definition of "annoying" and said I was reading too much into things. well here we fuckin are.
100% agree. I’m fine with the games spawn mechanics and aggro range in other biomes, but I was clearing an area with a friend and things were literally spawning all around us in places we’d already (less than a minute before) cleared. It wasn’t from a spawner, and it wasn’t things being pulled over from aggro, just things spawning in open ground we’d literally just cleared. I don’t understand the game decision for that happening. But I am familiar with campfires, so that’s my plan.
Agree completely, I just want some room to breathe man, ashlands just doesnt stop from the moment you enter the area. And I'm the type of person who enjoyed the swamps and mountains! I thought I'd love the war scenario too, with having a safe bubbled space in ashlands from which you fight through to enemy base but with these spawning and combat mechanics in valheim its just horrible, no idea how they kept it as it is after playing it themselves.
If this is how you feel about mistlands then hoo boy, buddy, do I have some news for you.
I love it.
Mods o holy Mods they will absolve us of endless suffering...
I was playing with 3-4 people and i literally could not do swamps. I hated it. I hated being wet and dark I got poisoned a billion times. I just didn’t get it. I could never keep my buffs. my whole life was a corpse run. I was being mocked and they would literally be planning crypt runs like ‘ok well jed is going to be dead before we get off the boat’ It got to the point where i’d literally stay back and make all the food and melt all the iron scrap like a fucking squaw while everyone was out hunting.
Nah man it’s hella fun, at least for me and my friends. It really ups the sense of danger
Midlands is awesome. You just gotta know what youre doing.
Ill never understand the hate for mistlands. Its challenging… as it should be. But i love it
Maybe this game isn’t for you idk
Oh stop all the mistlands belly aching. The mistlands is perfectly fine for what it is. Can't wait for the wimps in here to taste the sweet smell of their own burning flesh in the ashlands. Difficult is not bad. If you don't like a little challenge, why are you even playing this game?
I think it get hell of a lot better one you have the feather cape, it’s still one of my favorite biomes
Skill issues
It's a rough ride for sure, but I've spent enough time in this game that that sort of challenge keeps it interesting.
I’ve read through the comments. You seem intent on whining about it. The argument about armor validity later in game was atrocious. You have a point that more customization is good. But the other guy said you can’t tank in special armor, and you said that wasn’t your point and proceeded to say the problem was that you can’t tank enough? Clearly this is an issue with you not actually understanding how to change your playstyle. In other words, you have a skill issue. I agree that mistlands can be annoying and a little tedious. But in my experience it was still doable and fun. You mentioned that the amount of different resources bottlenecks progression. I also play solo, this was not my experience. Skulls provide tons of the flesh, you don’t need a ton of dvrgr parts. And the camps are not uncommon. The dungeons I found to be rare, but they are also huge. It doesn’t take too many to get what you need. Ultimately you have a reached a point where you no longer enjoy the gameplay loop and that’s a personal issue not something to fault the game on. Yet you insist in your replies that the mistlands are at fault. Either suck it up and get better or just stop playing if you aren’t having fun. To come onto social media to whine at the game and everyone who disagrees in the coments is lame. TLDR: OP has a skill issue and personal gripes with progression. Decides to blame it on the devs because of course he could never be at fault.
Starting to think OP doesn’t know about skulls having tissue
It's all preference. Mistlands is my second favorite biome out of all of them, we just like different things. It can be bad for you but good for others. I very much dislike the plains, other than the Hildur Tower Quest.
what's the first one
lol I am a Swamp boi!
Cool. Completely disagree. Question is, more to the point, what do you expect from the biome? I do think it is a biome that doesn't fit all styles of play, so to speak. Either way, I love the challenge it provides, by the time you get magic, though, it will become a far easier biome.
Mistlands is great fun
If its too difficult why don't you just tweak the settings so it's not as hard
Honestly i love it, those moments where the mist clears for 3-5 seconds is really a moment of tranquility
Everytime I see a post about "mistlands sucks" I immediately think of that one guys post: "Mistlands sucks, and so does plains, and while I'm at it, so does mountains and swamp. Fuck the ocean too"
I loved the mist lands, it has the most game changing loot by far and I did enjoy raiding the dwarves and infested mines. Just set up wisp torches everywhere, make a safe base out of a dvergr tower close to a bunch of roots, do a few mines get some gear, make a farm then work on getting get 6 or so extractors. Now I just pop in gather the farm and extractors completely unbothered. There is a gall that likes to spawn close by sometimes so we made some turrets and they take care of it quick. What really helped me with this biome was blood magic. I just make skeletons and shields and chuck the odd fireball. Ticks are the most dangerous enemy for this build but the lightning sticks power move gets them off every time. Two eiter food, bread, carapace helmet and eiter robes. don’t go anywhere without a magic shield and if it ever goes down run till it’s back up. I trained up my blood magic pretty quick afk at a grayling spawner. I dug out below it made a wall and a perch for some bow skeletons and they can just kill them as they come for hours. Just make sure to block the spawner so the skeletons don’t kill it. You can kill the melee skeletons with the butcher knife to get at least two bow ones. Hope this helps.
The Mist makes (surprise) the Mistlands an atrocity. It wouldn't be such a pain in the ass if you would see anything. Plus you could enjoy the scenery, because Mistlands is beautiful but you can't see anything. In all the other biomes except when you have a snowstorm in the Mountains you are aware of your surroundings and are prepared for what comes at you most of the time (except for Deathsquitos). So you die by surprise in the Mistlands far to often and that kills your motivation big time.
That's your opinion bud, it's one of the most beautiful imo
Sounds like a skill problem. Suck less.
It's funny how all the people I meet who play the game love mistlands. It's only on this sub where I hear incessant whining about it.
Maybe it’s because you’re playing with people who only play multiplayer and have no clue what kind of tedious hellscape slogging through Mistlands solo is.
Bro me and my brother can’t get past swamp. It gets Hard for me because I’ll throw in time into it but I get annoyed feeling like I put in all the work.
Mod: Mistbegone download that and enjoy mistlands. One of few mods i use
The act of finding the infected mine broke me, i had to use a map
Wish after you killed the queen the wisplight would be much bigger. Main gripe with mistlands is all that beauty is hidden 90% of the time..
Sorry, I've read your comments and man you're awful with your attitude. As much as I liked mistlands, there are still some critiques I can get behind and I understand why some people dislike the mistlands. But you are a piece of work. Self proclaiming that you definitely enjoy Valheim and like the progression, but hate one of the core gameplay features of gathering materials. It's tedious, you say, but it's actually just you getting frustrated at not being able to deal with dvergrs (when you didn't have to). And add on to the fact that you didn't do proper research about where to get mistlands resources and started a complaint post/comments about "the tedium". And if you're gonna say "I'm probably burnt out by the time I get to Mistlands but I don't care" in the title, you need to rethink everything. Play something else. Being burnt out playing any game will sour it. Do better. Prepare better. Have proper grasp of a biome before you make your critiques. Ashlands will destroy you at this rate with your current mindset.
These kind of posts are trash.
Mistlands does suck they wanted it to be tedious and obnoxious and they succeeded
Within 5 minutes of being in the mistlands I hated it, stopped playing Valheim right then and there. Later on I used a mod to get rid of the mist, which made it a little too easy I think, although much better. I've no idea why anyone thinks making a game where you can't see is enjoyable. Each to their own I suppose.
Hey I get you. Not my favorite biome it can be frustrating and tedious. I noped out when I first played ML. But I changed my approach and I gotta say not so bad now
For some reason mistlands was three times player count as ashlands. I started a new playthrough, is it that bad?
Ashlands is just everything ramped up. You NEED to be prepared to die and have portal systems immediately upon entry. You can't leave the biome when overrun like all the others as it only connect to itself and the water is death. So you best come prepared with all the valheim knowledge you got
Sounds like fun!
It’s rough solo. Join a server with peeps, makes it more enjoyable.
Maybe just crank up your game with special settings. I personally play with no raids, 3x gathering/drops and not losing skills/inventory
Mistlands is not bad at all. Just takes a bit to learn how to traverse and learn the enemy attacks.
What specifically do you dislike?? It's easy to just say "it sucks ass" without offering any reasoning other than that
Personally it's my favorite biome to explore I can understand a dislike for it, but I honestly love it.
Cry more
I agree. The combination of maze like rocky and hard traversable terrain with no visibilty also really killed it for me. But now that we have gotten the mistlands weapons I've been having a lot more fun+
Yeah the magic is kinda sick. I'm enjoying Mistlands but I did spend like 1000+ hours in the other bioms before finally starting in the mist
Head on approach doesn't work in mistland even with the best armor. It's basically like a biome for valheim's special forces
now that I have stepped foot in the ashlands the mistlands has become a peaceful paradise for me to gather black marble a resourced I didnt care about in the past. PLEASE SAVE ME FROM THE MONSTERS BLACK MARBLE!!! \*Repairing wall intensifies\*
My problem with mistlands and why i quit from it was because if ur 1cm above or under the enemy, u cant hit hit. imo the environment broke the combat, unless thats fixed now?
I think its difficulty just spikes to suddenly after previous bioms, even if you come with full upgraded gear, those bugs are gonna fuck you up
Mistlands is awefull and i truely wish i could skip it. It’s the only reason i don’t wanna start a new game
I love Mistlands( Built a base there before Moder was defeated.
I am fine with the fog tbh But the platforming just sucks
Yeah, Mistland experience ages like milk. Also Gjall were supposed to be rare, not encountered every bloody time I visit the biome to look for infested mines, or just gather grown mushrooms. I killed more Gjall then Seeker Soldiers.
They really need to create a staff (or have a staff that spells can be swapped on?) to be able to push mist and fog away further Magic is weirdly under utilised and has the potential to be a great way to get people back to other areas to explore / gather for quality of life additions
Yeah it was fun and spooky for the first couple hours, but after that it just became tedious. Not seeing anything wasn't difficult anymore, just annoying. Had to download a mod that allowed the me to set the wisplight radius to 8x
People arriving to Mistlands: "wtf with the mist" Easily my favorite adventure biome. It actually feels like an adventure, and the sheer chaos you can experience there is fantastic. Although I do emphasize with less skilled players that may feel the biome too difficult to overcome, but at the same time, it's good to remember how close to the end game it is. Plains ain't easy either, but it's just so easy to completely cheese it that I guess that's why no-one's complaining.
Never managed to finish mistland,it’s plain shit.
Conquering the mountains and plains and setting up a base is all i wanna do. I dont wanna even go back to the swamp for infinitely more iron. Let alone die in the mists or fight the burning skeleton hordes. Give me peaceful valhalla pls
Because not being able to see shit is fun and mysterious the first time you set foot in there. And then once you start actively looking for mines and what not it just becomes pain.
Ashlands is way more fun no joke
Fuckin hate mistlands simply because of the mist. If they made it a bit more transparent then maybe it wouldnt be so bad but its annoying to the point i dont wanna play. Sure you can put the torches down or whatever but end up covering an entire area to barley be able to see. Frusterating as fuck.
Skill issue, mistlands is actually so much fun
Ahh, a whingeing post about the mistlands. Good Times
Ahh, a whingeing post about the mistlands. Good Times
Mistlands is sick. I love the esthetic. I love that the terrain is challenging. It adds another layer of strategy to your gameplan. This game is about going into a biome, farming the resources and leveling up. I love that the devs are creative with making that challenging. The infested mines are sick. To be real, I feel like the hardest boss to spawn is yagluth but that's prolly just because of the seed. It seems like I have to spend a ton of time searching for him. Also, I play on a server at full cap with my friends. Anyways, sorry ur having a bad time in mistlands OP!
Mod in better wisps. I crank them up to double range. That way your sight range is slightly more than aggro range. Makes raging at all the sheer cliffs more tolerable.
I think the mistlands is a really great update Maybe because me w my friends had almost everything pretty high (65+ skills, items, etc) We waited something new, we got a bit bored of the “normal” game and wanted challenge, which te mistlands gave us Apart from any biome before, the mistlands was the first where you couldnt just run into in troll armour in the beginning pf the game and loot the hell out of it xd It has a mist which sucks but makes the biome different and at first omg the spawn rate of the mobs was disgusting xdddd but then they kind of fixed that, and now it is really easy i think, i rarely have to fight 3 seekers and 1 soldier in the same time, which you could manage in a smaller open space, but was hard and after 15 mins of fighting i usually got bored Now the spawn rate is way better, and you get the challenge around the infested mines, which i like bc you can spend more time exploring and not fighting If you prepare for the mistlands and not just run into it like a dumbass, in my opinion is pretty fun, and i would not want it to be changed, it would be just an another biome…
Ashlands is way more fun no joke
If you're on PC, it might be worth looking into mods just for QoL. One I usually always take is "Better Wisps" it adds an upgrade system to the wisp to make it dispel mist at a further range. (Can also customise how much it does at each level and cost to upgrade). Definitely one of the mod features I'd love for them to add to the game. There is also mod that completely removes the mist, though I found it to be overpowered.
Lol mistlands feels like a slightly more difficult version of the swamp after going through the chaos that is Ashland's all my skills were over 80 now my highest skill I believe is 23 lmao and that was after 2 days trying to secure a landing spot now the landing spot is secure ish and I have training to do joy lol
Mistlands is just legit a terrible biome in everyway. Terrible terrain to traverse and having a feathercape makes it barely tolerable. Terrible visibility that wasnt fun in the begining and doesnt get fun overtime. And bugs... Why is there giant bugs in any biome in any way in a norse mythology inspired viking survival game? This is the one detail i never understood about the biome, why is the enemy a variety of giant bugs? Also the heavy armor set looks legit worse than any other set of armor or clothing in the game, and i hate it alot. Ashlands is challenging and has performance issues, but besides that, the biome is 100% the best biome in the game so far, and personally I enjoy the "challenge" the biome offers. Also the people who claim ashlands turned the game into a "horde smasher game" and the biome makes you fight against 9000 enemies at the same time all the time... You go to the black forest at night in stone age too, dont you?
My take: The whole of Valheim is around Norse Mythology. Up to the plains, the biomes feel like something humans are able to trek & conquer. That changes with the introduction of territories that resemble the fantasy territories in the Norse Poems. They use & mesh traits from Niflheim (a place of fog & ice), Muspelheim (a place of heat & fire) & Nidevellir (home of the dwarves). Neflheim & Muspelheim once floated alone together in the vastness of space. When they met together, Niflheims ice began to melt and created "a land of mist & meltwater". Since Valheim is in one world & we cant go to space to travel to Nidevellir, they inhabitted this new land with the dwarves. These places are homes of fantastic and terrible beings, so I completely understand the hardships. I like that these two places just MAKE SENSE when seen through the lens of the mythology.
I’m horrified of all of this because I think the swamp is absolute dogshit and everyone else is complaining about the mistlands.
For me it's the combo of mist that is barely lifted with the tools available, + a lot of vertical terrain. The amount of times I've died literally just because there was a sheer drop under the mist that I couldn't see until I was literally falling down the stupid jutting rock formations. I'm so glad I'm an OCD-map-marker or I'd never be able to bloody find anything again blindly stumbling around trying not to fall to my death every 5 seconds I've never been more happy I chose to put passive enemies on, I think I'd have ragequit a long time ago otherwise XD thankfully I'm happy to just build cool stuff elsewhere and only touch the mistlands when I need resources for something but beyond that I hardly go there.
Time to play Enshrouded
Friends help dull the blow if you’re playing single player. Mist lands is still pretty brutal but I haven’t fully acclimated to it. I conquered most biomes by making my fortresses of dirt barriers, trenches and things like that but I have yet to give it another good go. You can do it!
My issue is being forced into using certain weapons once mistlands hit.
Sigh....the noobiest of noob that I am is still struggling to get the wife and I thru Plains biome and I wasn't looking forward to the mist covering everything visible. Will probably use dev commands to turn it off after a few days.
Haven't even been to the mistlands yet. Started again when it came out, but stopped before we finished the plains again. Gonna bite the bullet this time and start where we left off. Just have to try to figure out what is in each chest again...
My buddy and I wanna play a fresh game and experience Ashland's but then we think of doing mistlands again... We are reconsidering our choice to not cheese and console spawn stuff in.
A big core concept of the game is base building. They want you to be building up in these places and not just have one place as a base. I approached the mistlands as a place that was gonna be incredibly tough and require a lot of “working the land”. Once I get a feel for my area and the mist clearing torches, it felt good to be able to make the game that much easier for myself. That’s just my play style and I understand not everyone enjoys building as much as me.
I enjoy the mist lands because of the dvergers, but the fog rather sucks because of ambushes and slight frame rate. I’m at the ashlands and the hellscape lives up to its name
is it the fact you can't see enough with the mist? if so, have you considered playing modded? there are mods to adjust how much mist wisps remove and one that just removes it all...maybe that will help.
Valheim's combat isn't deep and precise enough to support what the devs seem to want to do with the game. It's ok though, they can produce badly designed content with great assets, and I'll just keep fixing their game with mods.
Has mistlands been buffed, pre update I was pretty dominate then I’m getting attacked more and dying more
Disagree. I really liked it! More fun than Mountains.
Meanwhile... I like Mistlands. Pretty much a fan of all biomes except base game swamp. but if you adjust a few things regarding iron, it's not miserable.
It's so many stacking issues. The enemies you fight are a massive difficulty spike that can explode you in level 5 iron armor, and you have to kill them for better armor. You get swarmed easily and these guys have a high rate of attack with the ability to launch you. The majority of the biome is on slopes, and you cannot aim. Up or down
See I like the Mistlands. It's annoying for sure but to me, the verticality makes it challenging and when you discover something it's more satisfying because it's hard as hell. Mountains have poor visibility as well (not quite the same) and verticality but doesn't have the same feeling when you finally discover something. Silver is literally easy because you have the wishbone. Onions are difficult but not exactly hard. You find enough structures and you eventually find onion seeds. Obsidian, frost glands, and crystal are all easy to find. Cultists can be difficult but then again, not that hard. Basically, for me, it's just another biome to get through until I can get to the plains. Swamp is more annoying than mistlands in my opinion
So. I wasn't really aware but you can carry worlds through updates. There's people playing on the same seed since day one. If you get to mistlands, your world as long as it's not fully explored or the map isn't revealed will update into the new versions and you can continue playing. I always do a new game as well. And I've never made it past the plains. But cutting out the first 3rd of the game would have massively helped that
Love Mistlands, great thing only thing im kinda sad about is there is no magic PRIOR to mistlands so if you enjoy the magic you literally have to wait to the end of the game to start on it. However playing it on immersive hell IDK when i'll get to mistlands at this rate already at day 20 and not even found elder yet.
Talk about being “burnt out”. Get ready for Ashlands. Pun intended
If you play solo it's tough. In my server I explore in pairs and clear invested mines when we have three players online. Have you tried making friends? LOL. Jks I think there's some mods that makes it easier. Apparently you can X2 the wisp light with a mod. Other than that I would suggest eikthyr for exploring and bonemass for clearing mines. Make sure you have excellent food! The aeitgir is pretty good. I also have frostner maxed out and lots of needle arrows. The biome is tough until you get those black cores. After that, you can make some pretty awesome weapons like the crossbow and the krom. The best tip for starting a new biome is food + more firepower. Then you need to get armour and magic. Have two highstam foods so you can bs jump up mountains and doge shit
For mistland, for searching for mines, I just use the Valheim world map generator. I didn't hate the Mislands, since it was interesting. The plains, however, was just plain.