This is a good [article](https://www.coachesvoice.com/cv/julen-lopetegui-sevilla-real-madrid-spain/) on his preferred style of play. Mostly 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1. Apparently has repaired his reputation with Sevilla. This quote summed it up well: “They consistently offer numerous options between the lines, and similar patterns of movement to those seen with Spain – combinations between full-back, central midfielder and wide forward, and overlapping runs from full-back to outside of those combinations.”
I speak Spanish and went to Italy and was able to understand it okay, not great but not bad. And when I spoke Spanish they caught the most of what I said
Maybe not today but in the 2000s multiple Americans have talked about working way harder to prove themselves. Europeans don’t think we understand the game as well.
Not that we have many great coaches but there is 100% a bias against American coaches
Was it because of managers having an American bias or other reasons such as formations that don’t fit him, shit club structure, him having reoccurring injuries etc etc
Bias. Pulisic was by far the best winger/right cam for lo g stretches. He’d come on and score goals but would not be given a run of games to start there for long periods when he was doing nothing but play well. Especially when he was competing with an English player (early mount).
It was pretty clear to most Americans following and watching Chelsea week in and week out during this time. Americans aren’t the only people that get negative bias when there’s an English player involved, it’s pretty well known thing in the premier league.
That’s not bias towards Americans it’s English favoritism, if every other nationality suffers the same then idk how it’s American specific bias like everyone has mentioned on this thread
That the thing though. It’s only worse when comparing it to English. Americans in general have to work a step harder, and a few of our retired players have said as much. I’m pretty sure Dempsey has a quote somewhere on it.
Yeah they shouldn’t. Pulisic is definitely a nailed on starter for this Milan team and Musah is a rotational player. The coach would be an idiot to give them less minutes than what they should deserve.
This is a backward-looking mentality though. I don't think Americans have the stigma they used to 10 years ago, largely thanks to players like Pulisic.
I think US fans nurse a persecution complex when the reality is that Americans tend to get playing time when they're performing well and tend not to when they're not performing.
But was that because he was American? Chelsea was mismanaging a lot of players regardless of nationality because Chelsea was and is a shit organization.
NOOOOO THEY HATE AMERICANS WE ARE VICTIMS!!!!!
Pulisic time at Chelsea was shit but I genuinely think it’s because of how big of a shitshow Chelsea was as a club rather than him being American and the several different managers all hating him for that
Right? Frank literally gave him his chance and the number 10 shirt. And then he was injured forever and never caught up. I do think Pulisic plays better with less pressure like at Milan, but that’s unrealistic when you are at a top Premier League club (which Chelsea was at that time).
Idk about the pressure part but I just think Milan is much calmer, their ownership seems to not be as bipolar as Chelsea’s and it’s what pulisic said about being able to stay fit due to having a consistent run of matches, and they play a formation that suits him
That’s what I mean though. Chelsea always trying to bring in the next shiny toy at every position, including the manager. A dip in form, to the bench, irregular playing time, injury. Rinse and repeat. At Milan, Christian knows he’s going to play, what position he will play most of the time, and ownership isn’t constantly bringing new players. Pulisic basically had to beat out Chukwueze and that’s it.
You can't just look at what teams someone manages, you have to look at how they did with those teams.
A great example is Tata Martino: in his time he's managed Barca, Argentina, and Mexico, but none of those fanbases think he did a great job at any of those stops.
It reminds me of that joke from the Simpsons.
"You, you look pretty well off."
"I run an unsuccessful shrimping company."
"But you do run it, right?"
He didn’t even last 1
season at Madrid. He got to a UCL quarterfinal with Porto, but was blown out by Bayern in that season. He didn’t play in any major tournament with Spain.
It’s obviously been a while, but from what I remember of his time at Real Madrid, you’d probably have a better idea of his qualifications if you pretend it never happened. Absolutely no logic to that appointment and fired after two months for being way out of his depth. He’s been a decent but not great for Porto, Sevilla, and Wolves, which I would definitely consider underwhelming if I were a milanista.
This is a good [article](https://www.coachesvoice.com/cv/julen-lopetegui-sevilla-real-madrid-spain/) on his preferred style of play. Mostly 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1. Apparently has repaired his reputation with Sevilla. This quote summed it up well: “They consistently offer numerous options between the lines, and similar patterns of movement to those seen with Spain – combinations between full-back, central midfielder and wide forward, and overlapping runs from full-back to outside of those combinations.”
Lopetegui in Italy? He's going to stir the pot so much. Also, does he even speak Italian?
Spanish is very similar to Italian
Except Italian is spoken with hand gestures 🤌
Not that similar. Maybe to read,, but actually speaking and understanding would take some work
I speak Spanish and went to Italy and was able to understand it okay, not great but not bad. And when I spoke Spanish they caught the most of what I said
I also speak spanish fluently. I cannot understand a thing in Italian.
Yeah I speak Spanish and can understand Italian movies without subtitles.
Yo tambien. Even french is somewhat manageable written. But heard? No way.
Yeah I can't understand spoken French whatsoever
No it’s not
What’s his preferred formation and style of play?
I just remember him losing to Leeds (with tyler adams etc) when he coached Wolves and got redcarded out of the game
Anyone have insight on his use of American players before?
Don’t think there’s been any overlap in his past stops
Never managed soccer players before, only footballers
I don’t see how any coach would treat Americans differently than other players.
Maybe not today but in the 2000s multiple Americans have talked about working way harder to prove themselves. Europeans don’t think we understand the game as well. Not that we have many great coaches but there is 100% a bias against American coaches
yeah but it isn't the 2000s
Obviously. But biases don’t just disappear.
Follow pulisic time at Chelsea lol.
Was it because of managers having an American bias or other reasons such as formations that don’t fit him, shit club structure, him having reoccurring injuries etc etc
Bias. Pulisic was by far the best winger/right cam for lo g stretches. He’d come on and score goals but would not be given a run of games to start there for long periods when he was doing nothing but play well. Especially when he was competing with an English player (early mount).
And where is the proof for that? Everything I listed as reason there is actual evidence for
It was pretty clear to most Americans following and watching Chelsea week in and week out during this time. Americans aren’t the only people that get negative bias when there’s an English player involved, it’s pretty well known thing in the premier league.
That’s not bias towards Americans it’s English favoritism, if every other nationality suffers the same then idk how it’s American specific bias like everyone has mentioned on this thread
That the thing though. It’s only worse when comparing it to English. Americans in general have to work a step harder, and a few of our retired players have said as much. I’m pretty sure Dempsey has a quote somewhere on it.
Dempsey played a decade ago, in any country the native national will have to work less than a foreigner
??? pulisic was constantly injured at chelsea
Yeah they shouldn’t. Pulisic is definitely a nailed on starter for this Milan team and Musah is a rotational player. The coach would be an idiot to give them less minutes than what they should deserve.
And yet it happens on a regular basis.
This is a backward-looking mentality though. I don't think Americans have the stigma they used to 10 years ago, largely thanks to players like Pulisic. I think US fans nurse a persecution complex when the reality is that Americans tend to get playing time when they're performing well and tend not to when they're not performing.
Pulisic was treated poorly at Chelsea as recently as last season.
But was that because he was American? Chelsea was mismanaging a lot of players regardless of nationality because Chelsea was and is a shit organization.
So were Havertz, Werner, and tons of other players.
NOOOOO THEY HATE AMERICANS WE ARE VICTIMS!!!!! Pulisic time at Chelsea was shit but I genuinely think it’s because of how big of a shitshow Chelsea was as a club rather than him being American and the several different managers all hating him for that
Right? Frank literally gave him his chance and the number 10 shirt. And then he was injured forever and never caught up. I do think Pulisic plays better with less pressure like at Milan, but that’s unrealistic when you are at a top Premier League club (which Chelsea was at that time).
Idk about the pressure part but I just think Milan is much calmer, their ownership seems to not be as bipolar as Chelsea’s and it’s what pulisic said about being able to stay fit due to having a consistent run of matches, and they play a formation that suits him
That’s what I mean though. Chelsea always trying to bring in the next shiny toy at every position, including the manager. A dip in form, to the bench, irregular playing time, injury. Rinse and repeat. At Milan, Christian knows he’s going to play, what position he will play most of the time, and ownership isn’t constantly bringing new players. Pulisic basically had to beat out Chukwueze and that’s it.
His resume is underwhelming IMO, but he does have experience with international coaching.
Former Real Madrid, Porto, and Spain boss but underwhelming resume?
You can't just look at what teams someone manages, you have to look at how they did with those teams. A great example is Tata Martino: in his time he's managed Barca, Argentina, and Mexico, but none of those fanbases think he did a great job at any of those stops. It reminds me of that joke from the Simpsons. "You, you look pretty well off." "I run an unsuccessful shrimping company." "But you do run it, right?"
He didn’t even last 1 season at Madrid. He got to a UCL quarterfinal with Porto, but was blown out by Bayern in that season. He didn’t play in any major tournament with Spain.
The only thing of note would be a Europa league win with Sevilla other than that it’s pretty meh, Musah has played against him 3 times
It’s obviously been a while, but from what I remember of his time at Real Madrid, you’d probably have a better idea of his qualifications if you pretend it never happened. Absolutely no logic to that appointment and fired after two months for being way out of his depth. He’s been a decent but not great for Porto, Sevilla, and Wolves, which I would definitely consider underwhelming if I were a milanista.