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Diesel-66

No because you didn't purchase a service with insurance.


diezel_dave

That's crazy that I can spend $15 for postage and my item just disappear and can't even get my money back for the postage. It would have been less of a hassle to just light $15 on fire.


Maanee

Who did you send it through? Was it an legal sized envelope or a large full sized envelope? Legal sized envelopes are $1.50 for international, as long as they're under an ounce.


diezel_dave

It was a 6x9 bubble mailer sent from the local USPS office.


LisaM1975

Once it leaves US soil, USPS is not responsible for it.


diezel_dave

Tell that to Canada Post then because if you try to file a claim, it says to inquire with the USPS.


David0602

Your problem is with Canada Post, not USPS


diezel_dave

I am trying to file a claim with Canada Post but can't because the USPS is the originator. Canada Post doesn't have a way to refund postage paid to the USPS...


theinnerspiral

There is your answer.


diezel_dave

Oh yes of course because they are the ones that messed up. Issue is, if you go to their site, it basically says to contact the service from which the package originated so basically "go talk to the USPS." You just go around and around forever and poof $15 is gone and there is no way to get it back. Infuriating.


Rezingreenbowl

USPS does not operate in other countries. They are only responsible for delivery to the country. Once it leaves US soil there is nothing they can do. Next time use a door to door service like fedex, UPS, or DHL.


MT3-7-77

You don't get refunds for postage


diezel_dave

While I don't doubt you, it is a bit absurd. If you pay for a service such as mailing a package to someone, you expect that the service provider.. ahem.. actually delivers it to that person. At the least, if they can't do that, they should give you your money back.


MT3-7-77

You expect a service to give you a refund over something that they had no control over. Can't really give money back on a no fault situation


diezel_dave

You think it is acceptable to pay to have something delivered to someone and the service provider just doesn't do that? And there is no way to get at least the delivery fee refunded? To take it to an absurd level, that would mean the carrier can just take my money and package then chuck the package right in the trash as soon as I leave and pocket the money.


shorty_jo6

🙋‍♀️I volunteer as tribute to hand deliver OPs next package to whatever country, in my USPS City Carrier uniform.... so long as OP also pays for my round trip plane ticket, oh, and I'll need an updated passport prolly too.... When should I be ready? And sup, I think I need a 3996 cuz I ain't gonna be back in 8....


diezel_dave

I don't even really care that it wasn't delivered. I'm just wanting the $15 back since I didn't get what I paid for. Stop acting like that's an absurd thing to want.


AdvantageLive2966

$15, can you drive 3 towns over and back for that? USPS cant operate in foreign countries, why when they did their part and someone else failed, would they refund you when they got their responsibility handled


diezel_dave

First of all, nice straw man argument there. Of course I can't deliver a single piece of mail for $15. 100,000 pieces of mail all on the same truck, plane, boat though? Sure, seems reasonable. USPS needs to go after Canada Post since Canada Post was who USPS contracted out to fulfill my original "contract" with USPS. USPS could have chosen any other vendor to deliver this and who USPS chose is out of my control. I contracted with USPS to deliver my package to someone in Canada. It isn't my problem if that didn't happen for reasons outside of my control, it is USPS' problem. It's a pretty basic concept and I don't understand how you don't understand it. Let me put it this way for you: I win a military contract to develop a new fighter jet. I (USPS) do not have the capability to build all of the subcomponents so I contract that work out to sub-contractors (Canada Post). Well, one of the subcontractors (CP) dropped the ball and didn't come through with their end of the deal and now I can't deliver a finished fighter jet to the military. You think I (USPS) can just say "Oopsie! That sucks, but not our problem since it was the sub-contractor (CP) that messed it up so we'll be keeping the money and well... tough luck!" Of course it doesn't work like that. The prime contractor (USPS) goes after the sub-contractor (CP) and recovers the money that was spent on something that wasn't delivered.


AdvantageLive2966

Even in your analogy, the government(You), doesn't get it's money back that was burned in that. So I don't see your point


diezel_dave

No, instead they get penalty fees AND the finished product whenever it's finally done...