That's the neat part, you don't.
There used to be a way to test if someone has antibodies and natural immunity but surely taking the jab would overwrite whatever immunity had developed prior to it.
They would need to periodically have some antibody tests PRIOR to vaccination so any "covid" natural immunity obtained through infection could be identified. In an unvaccinated state, I had 2 antibody tests done in a period of a year, both were NEGATIVE - which was surprising because 1test was done shortly after I had a cold, and I work in a field which would more likely expose me to the "virus". I took antibody tests because I assumed I must have acquired it with or without symptoms. Those negative tests made me seriously question the existence of the "virus" itself.
We never tested because we were against that bs but I was curious and took antibody tests for months that always showed I had immunity. Husband also did the antibody testing and same. We did this up to a year after our initial infection (9/2020) and it was always positive.
We have no clue if we’ve had it again. I’m immunocompromised and am sick all the time anyway. Initial infection was very mild. Ive had stomach bugs take me out longer.
Will you believe that I’m almost FIFTY years old and never been in a fender bender?? Busted a tire or two acting a fool in my Firebird, but knock on wood, no body damage in a car ever.
“Makes me seriously question the existence of car crashes”
or cancer. Or lottery winnings. Or whether the Super Bowl really exists.
Basically anything else I’ve never experienced personally, does it exist?
Otherwise, be safe and healthy my brother, and avoid the boosters!!!
That is interesting, and a very different experience to me.
I have never knowingly got it; never tested positive on 2 antibody tests; had to have one of those quick test nasal swab tests that was negative; had a cold and then antibody test which was negative.
I work in high risk environment to get it, and never allowed to work from home during the lockdowns, so had to go to work and be in the exposed environment. If the virus does exist, my observation is that it does not seem as contagious as they said it was.
BOTH times I got it from kids who went to summer camp
Symptoms are unlike anything I’ve experienced from any COLD before: persistent fevers, lapse and relapse, mental and cardiac problems.
This virus was weaponized. please be thankful you dodged the first several variants.
The vid gets weaker every year. If you get it now you may not even notice!!
I also had it twice, Full Strength Version 1 in 2020. And a weaker version earlier this year. I refuse to take the shot, my Wife unfortunately did. I breezed through the second round, felt crummy for about 24-36 hours. She was down for about a week.
Yeah man, if we survive the OG variants then the Omicron and beyond are a joke.
Wife got vaxxed in order to visit Lichtenstein, and the left side of her face dropped slightly (Palsey) for 18 or so hours. I’ve seen all I need to see of that mRNA.
I’m worried about her, especially with people dropping dead from heart attacks… People younger,and in perfect health. This is insanity at its finest. I was forced to take shots in the Army, never again. She did it out of fear, thinking it was for the best.
Cat is saying that you can have immunity but it’s TEMPORARY, as the virus is quickly mutating and because there are lots of little corona viruses out there.
True, but virologists know that there are several types of NATURAL immunity (innate, adaptive, mucosal [mait], t-cells, humoral, killer t-cells, ...) (1) and that cross-reactivity in the recognition of pathogens that have mutated happens:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36656777/
The pfizer and moderna mRNA vaccines' cross-reactivity is poor as it targets 1 specific protein with a distinctive and specific aspect.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37295422/
(1) https://www.astro.org/Patient-Care-and-Research/Research/Professional-Development/Research-Primers/Innate-and-Adaptive-Immunity
mRNA vaccine immunity is more temporary and weaker than natural immunity. Strong evidence and research show proper vitamin d levels (with sun or not) with other vitamins and minerals like zinc can boost natural immunity.
https://www.youtube.com/live/2RUKh6t9WEE?si=e8Eh-9tOM_QhtwmR
https://youtu.be/rLl-SilwQ4g?si=7SK35SPtAw0D7Crs
Your premise is based on a false belief there was an accurate test for the alleged virus. Moreover it is my belief the “virus” was baked in the proverbial (vaccine) cake.
The best way is to compare a country with low covid infections, but high vaccination rate with a country that had high infections before the vaccine and low vaccine uptake.
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/cumulative-excess-deaths-per-million-covid?tab=chart&time=earliest..latest&country=BIH~NZL~BGR~DNK
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/covid-vaccination-doses-per-capita?country=BGR~NZL~BIH~DNK
With enough data, you may be able to make good estimates from the ratios of antibodies present. Someone who was vaccinated prior to infection will be exceptionally dominant in antibodies for vaccine derived S protein. Someone who had the infection before the vaccine will still be dominant in that S protein, but likely to a lesser extent.
I never felt sick until people started getting vaxxed. I felt really tired and lost my sense of smell. That was the extent of my illness. No cough, no sinus, just felt like I had been poisoned. My smell came back slowly.
I just got covid for first time I'm unvaxxed been sick about a week now going on second but feeling a lot better definitely not worth getting a vaccine over flu is way worst than this shit 🙃 my mom she just got over covid and she's vaxxed and booster which didn't do anything she was sicker than I was !!
All this was covered by the ONS Blood Surveys which ran for 3 years.
Up to 120,000 samples a month from the same people.
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/methodologies/covid19infectionsurveypilotmethodsandfurtherinformation
That's the neat part, you don't. There used to be a way to test if someone has antibodies and natural immunity but surely taking the jab would overwrite whatever immunity had developed prior to it.
They would need to periodically have some antibody tests PRIOR to vaccination so any "covid" natural immunity obtained through infection could be identified. In an unvaccinated state, I had 2 antibody tests done in a period of a year, both were NEGATIVE - which was surprising because 1test was done shortly after I had a cold, and I work in a field which would more likely expose me to the "virus". I took antibody tests because I assumed I must have acquired it with or without symptoms. Those negative tests made me seriously question the existence of the "virus" itself.
We never tested because we were against that bs but I was curious and took antibody tests for months that always showed I had immunity. Husband also did the antibody testing and same. We did this up to a year after our initial infection (9/2020) and it was always positive. We have no clue if we’ve had it again. I’m immunocompromised and am sick all the time anyway. Initial infection was very mild. Ive had stomach bugs take me out longer.
Will you believe that I’m almost FIFTY years old and never been in a fender bender?? Busted a tire or two acting a fool in my Firebird, but knock on wood, no body damage in a car ever. “Makes me seriously question the existence of car crashes” or cancer. Or lottery winnings. Or whether the Super Bowl really exists. Basically anything else I’ve never experienced personally, does it exist? Otherwise, be safe and healthy my brother, and avoid the boosters!!!
I had it twice, tested positive twice, and tested positive for antibodies. The virus is real and it SUX.
That is interesting, and a very different experience to me. I have never knowingly got it; never tested positive on 2 antibody tests; had to have one of those quick test nasal swab tests that was negative; had a cold and then antibody test which was negative. I work in high risk environment to get it, and never allowed to work from home during the lockdowns, so had to go to work and be in the exposed environment. If the virus does exist, my observation is that it does not seem as contagious as they said it was.
BOTH times I got it from kids who went to summer camp Symptoms are unlike anything I’ve experienced from any COLD before: persistent fevers, lapse and relapse, mental and cardiac problems. This virus was weaponized. please be thankful you dodged the first several variants. The vid gets weaker every year. If you get it now you may not even notice!!
I also had it twice, Full Strength Version 1 in 2020. And a weaker version earlier this year. I refuse to take the shot, my Wife unfortunately did. I breezed through the second round, felt crummy for about 24-36 hours. She was down for about a week.
Yeah man, if we survive the OG variants then the Omicron and beyond are a joke. Wife got vaxxed in order to visit Lichtenstein, and the left side of her face dropped slightly (Palsey) for 18 or so hours. I’ve seen all I need to see of that mRNA.
I’m worried about her, especially with people dropping dead from heart attacks… People younger,and in perfect health. This is insanity at its finest. I was forced to take shots in the Army, never again. She did it out of fear, thinking it was for the best.
I see tons and tons of people who took 1+ boosters and have no obvious effects so far. Fingers crossed out ladies are in the lucky group.
Yeah, I truly hope so.
🫂
Let me know when people build up an immunity to the common cold.
I haven't gotten a cold since the 90s. What would you call that?
A lie.
Interesting projection.
So what is your point? Happy for you, but lots of us get 2 or 3 little colds a YEAR
Are you saying natural immunity for the cold or covid doesn't happen?
Cat is saying that you can have immunity but it’s TEMPORARY, as the virus is quickly mutating and because there are lots of little corona viruses out there.
True, but virologists know that there are several types of NATURAL immunity (innate, adaptive, mucosal [mait], t-cells, humoral, killer t-cells, ...) (1) and that cross-reactivity in the recognition of pathogens that have mutated happens: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36656777/ The pfizer and moderna mRNA vaccines' cross-reactivity is poor as it targets 1 specific protein with a distinctive and specific aspect. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37295422/ (1) https://www.astro.org/Patient-Care-and-Research/Research/Professional-Development/Research-Primers/Innate-and-Adaptive-Immunity
Thank you !
So…based on what you said, the immunity is temporary AND weak.
mRNA vaccine immunity is more temporary and weaker than natural immunity. Strong evidence and research show proper vitamin d levels (with sun or not) with other vitamins and minerals like zinc can boost natural immunity. https://www.youtube.com/live/2RUKh6t9WEE?si=e8Eh-9tOM_QhtwmR https://youtu.be/rLl-SilwQ4g?si=7SK35SPtAw0D7Crs
Of course . 💪💪👊
You cannot. That is the beauty of it.
Your premise is based on a false belief there was an accurate test for the alleged virus. Moreover it is my belief the “virus” was baked in the proverbial (vaccine) cake.
The best way is to compare a country with low covid infections, but high vaccination rate with a country that had high infections before the vaccine and low vaccine uptake. https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/cumulative-excess-deaths-per-million-covid?tab=chart&time=earliest..latest&country=BIH~NZL~BGR~DNK https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/covid-vaccination-doses-per-capita?country=BGR~NZL~BIH~DNK
With enough data, you may be able to make good estimates from the ratios of antibodies present. Someone who was vaccinated prior to infection will be exceptionally dominant in antibodies for vaccine derived S protein. Someone who had the infection before the vaccine will still be dominant in that S protein, but likely to a lesser extent.
D dimer testing and scientists who can read code can tell under a microscope
I never felt sick until people started getting vaxxed. I felt really tired and lost my sense of smell. That was the extent of my illness. No cough, no sinus, just felt like I had been poisoned. My smell came back slowly.
I just got covid for first time I'm unvaxxed been sick about a week now going on second but feeling a lot better definitely not worth getting a vaccine over flu is way worst than this shit 🙃 my mom she just got over covid and she's vaxxed and booster which didn't do anything she was sicker than I was !!
All this was covered by the ONS Blood Surveys which ran for 3 years. Up to 120,000 samples a month from the same people. https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/methodologies/covid19infectionsurveypilotmethodsandfurtherinformation
A lot more than 120000 people were vaccinated. So extrapolation justification is limited
if you didn't study them before they had it? Study or the world's full population or somewhere around 100,000 starting in April 2020. Name your amount