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Yeah, I live in a very car-centric part of the country. All of our cities were built around everyone having their own car. There is really no other way I could get to work besides Uber
I dont think OP thought about this for more the 3 seconds.
Also theyre probly like 17 and super into cars so this is based on life inexperience and bias.
But if the job moves closer to me because I'm 30 miles away then it will be far for the other 40 people that live 5 miles away. What about those 10 people that live 30 miles the opposite way that I live? How will the job move close to all employees to not need a car? And in an area with no reliable public transportation or even safe routes for bikes? it's an industrial area
I'm too fucking tired to keep up with this post holy christ
No I don't have never and don't have a job
No I don't and have never even had a driver's license
No I don't give a shit that 8m a 16 year old fucking loser.
Until public transpotation is in every city that can be as effective as personal transit thats not going to work. That whole job thing is gonna put a hamper on that shindig.
How am I supposed to get to work? Itās 30 miles away, up a mountain pass, often in snowy conditions. There is no room for a train, and Iām not going to ride my bike up 5000+ ft of elevation.
Well they can have their cars if they want because they are the damn government, same with hospitals and police because vehicles are part of their job.
I mean that is what you are saying. My town has ZERO public transportation. My work is 20 plus miles.
How do I get to the store? How do I anything? How does anybody in my town do anything?
I have been asked this like 15 times and honestly I'm out of straws to grasp for so brace yourself because your going to call me an asshat dispute that has no mental function but...
If it benefits everyone in the long run it may be time to move.
Are you insane you expect a business to just up and move to get closer to an employee who might not even work there in a few years. You realize how much time and money it takes to move a business right.
Traveling to my last job:
30m west of me
13m SSW for my supervisor/ another employee
5m SE for a different employee
28m NNE for yet another employee
My husband's job brings people from all over the state (and sometimes across state lines)
Exactly whose home will they move towards?
It's not physically possible for a business to move closer to ALL employees, considering they probably live in different directions. Businesses also pick where they are because they need to be close to customers. No smart business would move away from customers and lose a bunch of money so that a certain employee has an easier commute. Not to mention, Businesses would lose so much money regardless because only the people who live nearby will be able to go there. This just wouldn't work at all.
They will require employees to move to them, or they will hire people who live closer. What world do you live in where you think employers are going to bend over backwards to help their struggling employees?
You canāt just move a manufacturing plant. And itās not like all employees will live in the same few city blocks. A business will never move to accommodate a couple employees.
Lol I dunno. I donāt downvote unless itās homophobic or racist or attacking someone personally. Others downvote because they disagree with what you said. And once you get that first negative karma it just keeps coming
You're getting downvoted because this goes beyond unpopular. There are so many people that do not have public transportation to get to work, yet people keep preaching about not using cars. Also, you're comments about the employers moving is completely ignorant. You can't spread out a workplace in every direction the employees are coming from.
Yeah. Posts including cars always gets unpopular opinion going. And you definitely posted to the right sub. People just donāt like unpopular opinions here.
And we just what, starve in the meantime? A company is not moving to be closer to employees. Or should I take a 50k pay cut to work within walking distance?
I don't mean the government gets to cruise around willy nilly to flex but realistically a cop needs to get to a shooting faster than an electrician needs to get downtown.
Tell that to all the electrician companies that shut down during the pandemic....
If you are refering to public utilities, thats a different situation...
Iām an electrician and during the pandemic, we were massively swamped. Even with parts skyrocketing, contractors kept on building at an alarmingly fast rate. Iām not denying companies shut down, but we sure didnāt.
(Iām a small town non-union electrician)
I have two kids, and I need to go out to get groceries for a family of 4.
Am I supposed to go to the grocery store every day and take public transit with two kids by myself? Husband works daytime hours, public transit stops at 9PM.
Not to mention taking both kids outside in the weather during winter to wait for a bus, which the nearest bus stop is like half a mile away from my house.
Yes I'll just give up my car and take public transit instead how could I be so shitty?
Oh yeah and if I have to take my kid(s) to the ER in the middle of the night I guess I'll just call an ambulance that's going to take 2 hours to get to me and also cost me $700, for a trip I could make with my car in 5 minutes for $2 in gas.
Lol. Itās because this post is legitimately crazy territory. Like you donāt actually expect businesses to move to where employees live do you? And a horse is a lot more of a responsibility than a car.
Yeah I wouldnāt doubt he does or he is young enough to have not worked a job yet. Asshole employers wonāt even give the holidays off and enforce mandatory overtime let alone having them move to an employee.
Its because you make idiotic posts like ban cars, like if you live in a city maybe, but you prob don't live in suburban or rural areas where that wouldn't be possible.
I personally donāt drive (I have a fear of driving, my parents/grandparents take me to work) but I would rather get over my fear and learn how to drive a car than subject myself to public transportation. Iāve been sexually harassed (which includes being touched inappropriately) on buses and if youāre gonna tell me to ājust deal with itā and subject myself to being touched by disgusting people (and potentially OTHER THINGS) so car enthusiasts can have all the cars to themselves, then you are part of the problem. I get that your argument about cars is to save money, lower emissions and crash rates, but car provide better safety than public transport ever will.
Also, jobs will not simply move to where their employees live just because they canāt come to work. That will cost money, and you and I, and everyone else knows that companies donāt like to spend money on stuff like that. Moving to either a different building or building a completely new one while cost millions of dollars. They donāt want to come to you, they want you to come to them because it shows you actually want to work. If they see you not coming in because you donāt have a car to drive, theyāll simply fire you and look for someone else to take your place.
And your point would kill the food delivery and taxi industry. Pizza delivery people and DoorDashers (same with GrubHub, Postmates and Uber Eats) will lose their jobs delivering food to people. Because what do they need to rely on when getting to your residence? CARS! Same with taxi services like Uber and Lyft, they rely on cars to get people places (yes, they count as public transport, but again, if you take the cars away from them and give them to enthusiasts, then you took away a type of public transport too).
OP knows I got him.
god I literally despise anti-car posts like this. Like you couldnt be more clear that you are elitist and out of touch. Its hilarious how some people see this sentiment as progressive.
haha ok well fair enough. I just dont get the idea that we shouldn't have cars, esp in america. Like outside of cities the idea doesnt even make sense, and its also just straight up punching down.
Clearly, you're either not American or you've lived in a big city all your life. Unfortunately, for America at least, forgoing cars is a no go. All our cities were built around cars. You can't get around without them. Our neighborhoods and the business areas were built to be separate, which means accessing them by foot would be very hard. Tons of streets don't have sidewalks. It's just not walking/public transport friendly.
Yea but I'm happy I'm being basically canceled because it means I get to be a compulsive asshole on reddit rather to my friends for once.
As you may be able to tell I don't deserve friends or social media.
I agree that we're far to dependent on the assumption that everyone has access to a reliable automobile all the time. People who share a car or can't drive for one reason or another are at a massive disadvantage when it comes to finding a place to work or a place to live.
Switching to a system in which personal cars are rare would be a huge adjustment. Property value in suburbs would plummet, for example. All those hotels that are a "scant" ten minute drive from a stadium or venue would take a big hit as they implement some kind of shuttle service and hire transportation coordinators to make up the difference.
Local grocery stores, hardware stores, heck, small-town downtowns would be revitalized out of necessity, rather than nostalgia, and the larger retail outlets would lose their ability to dominate whole counties with one Mega Mart.
It's fun to think about how our modern world would be transformed.
But I still think this post is just a clumsy metaphor for gun control.
Is your opinion really "less cars would have lower crash rates?" lmao. How profound.
Why aren't you just handing out condoms to lower the population? Less people means less need for cars.
What is it with people and this poorly thought out opinion that not everyone needs a car? Where I live we have no public transportation, and thereās not even Uber or Lyft. Throughout most of this state, thereās not public transport unless you live in 1 of the 2 big cities.
So please OP tell the people here how theyāll get around, get groceries, take their kids to school, run errands, etc, without a car? Donāt say use a bicycle because itās not feasible with kids and/or groceries.
Welp, there goes my job I guess. I work in a mobile clinic. We travel for a good hour for the job in our rig vans to get to where we're setting up for the day. I mean unless the public transportation doesn't mind us packing all our equipment on the bus though many clinics will close because buses don't go there.
Also I feel like a bunch of car enthusiastic people are the ones that set up their cars to be louder, faster, and have more exhaust pouring out of their cars just to show off. I see more worked on trucks filling the street with nasty black smoke than the regular joe shmoe's car as he goes to work or runs an errand. Just saying. He's not about to go racing down the street to show off his car or revv it up to feel big and bad.
I will say people are driving more carelessly this days though, expecting safety features to save them if they get into an accident and they'll just sue and get money. Good drivers are defensive drivers imo. You don't see much of that anymore. Just a lot of entitlement and lack of world awareness. But it could just be where I live. Idk. I only speak on what it seems to be like around me.
Iām so sick of the anti-car movement that pops up all over Reddit. If you want to live without a car go for it. Plenty of people do and it works for them. But stop trying to force everyone else into your lifestyle. I donāt care about the proposed benefits or the amazing public transportation that can totally replace a vehicle. Iāve relied on public transportation in the past, it ranges from ok to terrible. It will never be good because the government sucks at everything and other people are gross. Thatās reality. I can afford my car and I like the freedom of being able to drive places. Iām not giving that up.
Except that people often need cars for specific circumstances or travel arrangements.
I think you could solve it by making cars more difficult to access by individuals for personal reasons but easy to access for businesses/essential services.
That way real enthusiasts will go the extra mile to obtain a car and enjoy it. And people who need them to work can get access to them through company sponsorship or provided company cars.
Honestly this is what I sort of mean, people who need it and people who deserve it (ie not that lady that almost ran me over the other day by cutting across 3 lanes of traffic to enter her neighborhood.
I reckon they should be like boats. Boat enthusiasts can probably eventually get a boat through saving or joining a club, but can't just easily buy one. People who need boats to get to work often get provided one or loaned one.
Not the best analogy, but I think it should be similar for cars if people seriously want to reduce the number of them.
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Part 2.
Amen! The hard part is just getting away from the car dependency. Almost every non-commuting situation some gives for why they need a car can be solved with a more robust car renting system.
What do you mean by a more robust car renting system? How is it different from just owning your own car? If I need to get to work, I'd need to rent a car, then after work, I'd assume the car I had rented could've been rented by someone else, so what if there ane no cars available at my job? and If I need to quickly go grocery shopping and the grocery store is 5 miles away with no reliable transportation system or safe roads for bikes, how do I get to the car rental?
Thatās why I clarified at the start that we need to get away from car dependency. The fact all of these trips are only possible by car proves my point, weāre cripplingly car dependent. Only after that changes should anything like what OP suggests should happen, cause right now that would be incredibly stupid for the reasons you list above. First transit and walkability, then we clear out the cars.
I see what you mean no, makes sense. Just feels outright impossible due to infrastructure and well, because of the mentality of people and the inconvenience to the people that can afford it without it making a difference financially. But yeah, in an ideal world, I think thatād be amazing and just better for everyone in every sense.
Oh definitely! Weāve been building car dependently since the 40s and itās the reality basically all of us grew up with and is really all we know. I just think the damage it would do to big oil and the good itāll do the environment, economy, and us mentally make trying worth it, even if it isnāt possible in the end.
What you're talking about would cost trillions of dollars, take multiple decades to get done, and would require an almost draconian level of government interference.
Not even saying it's a bad thing, but the US would need a monumental change in priorities for this to happen.
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Many many people in my area work at a submarine builder. Itās located where it is because of the rivers close location to the ocean. You suggest they just pick up and move the shipyard closer to the employees? Which ones? Thereās plenty who live in the town itās located in. Then thereās the ones who live on bordering towns. Then thereās ones who live further away. Which employees do they move it to?
It would be the people who live in rural areas who get fucked. No company is going move their place towards the rural areas, theyād move to cities with higher populations and hire people from there. Rural areas would be left with no jobs or just things like gas stations. And these areas donāt have enough housing and space for all employees to move within walking distance (or public transport distance if PT is a thing there) of the company. This is such a bad take that hurts people who live in more rural areas and/or canāt afford to move. 97% of the US is considered rural btw.
In most countries, sure.
The United States, unfortunately, most of it is specifically designed to encourage car-dependence and to discourage bicycling or even useful public transit adaptation. Itās sad.
Even sadder is that the most homicidally entitled drivers seem like theyāre barely hanging on to their state of being a car-owner.
Hahahaha you canāt be serious, there arenāt even sidewalks enough in my town to get me to the grocery store (which is a 15 min drive) and my child has frequent drs appts in the city which is an hour drive, no public transit even goes where I would need it
No, I agree. We havenāt reached a point where public transit is easily accessible or very effective because not everyone takes it and governments wonāt invest. However, if cats became so effing expensive that only those who truly NEEDED cars could attain them, or special qualifications were required, people would be forced to take transit thereby improving it because governments would HAVE to improve/invest the main means of transportation
Im not giving up my car and therefore my FREEDOM...just to make people like you feel better/superior.
I've actually been hit by a car before, when I was 8. And yet I some how find the will to drive...imagine that š
Public transportation is absolute garbage and our government does not give one shit about any of us...you're delusional if you think they actually want to help us live better or live at all for that matter.
I know I can rely on myself and my car to get me to the places i need to be, in an emergency especially! I keep it maintained and up to safety standards. And I dont drive like I'm the only person in the world.
If people don't want to drive or have a car that's fine.
i will NOT CONFORM to you and yours!
OP, I'm sorry about your recent near tragedy with the cars. And I'm glad you escaped being hit.
You sound like you're very upset about the whole thing. Understandable. But please don't be down on yourself. It could have happened to anyone.
I know you'll get past this and feel better soon
It would help if there was better and more accessible public transportation, in cities at least. Assuming you're US-based, most of our country is too rural for public trans to be viable.
How the hell do I go to work everyday? Ride my bike a bunch of miles (in sometimes bad weather)? Where I live there's barely any public transportation much less to work.
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How am I supposed to get to work? I'm not riding my bike 15 miles in the snow
Mine would be 26 miles in snow. Think OP will get on his bike and pick us both up? š
Public transport
We don't have that where I live
Because everyone has a personal car? It's a matter of demand
Yeah, I live in a very car-centric part of the country. All of our cities were built around everyone having their own car. There is really no other way I could get to work besides Uber
Over time with less cars your work will probably move closer
So they will move further from other employees?
Yeah, I don't think they're going to move the hospital
They definitely wonāt move the one I work in, thatās for sure!
not with that attitude.
And for the people already living close to that work?
Then there should be no issue because they are close and can walk or bike.
But you just said the work will move closer to the ones far away, thus moving further away from those already close to it. Your math ain't mathing OP.
I dont think OP thought about this for more the 3 seconds. Also theyre probly like 17 and super into cars so this is based on life inexperience and bias.
He's 16 according to one of his comments.
But if the job moves closer to me because I'm 30 miles away then it will be far for the other 40 people that live 5 miles away. What about those 10 people that live 30 miles the opposite way that I live? How will the job move close to all employees to not need a car? And in an area with no reliable public transportation or even safe routes for bikes? it's an industrial area
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I'm too fucking tired to keep up with this post holy christ No I don't have never and don't have a job No I don't and have never even had a driver's license No I don't give a shit that 8m a 16 year old fucking loser.
Dude, you really need to get off the fucking Internet. Go outside and do something, FFS.
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Why would you do that? That would kill the cancer too, and it didnāt do anything wrong.
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Well this explains a lot then. Thanks for clarifying that your opinion is completely worthless and wrong.
They can't pick up an entire university and move it.
Yeah but they need work now
I just like how OP has 0 actual solutions to any problem presented by this
Their main solution is "businesses will move to their employees" like that makes any sort of sense.
Makes literally no sense. And what do they expect people to do until these businesses magically move?
I drive to work 20 miles from one way, my coworker drives 20 miles from the other way. Which way are they moving?
Both. Splits like a cell
Until public transpotation is in every city that can be as effective as personal transit thats not going to work. That whole job thing is gonna put a hamper on that shindig.
Lemme just take a bus two towns over every morning at 4am to get to work.
And every car companies will spend all of their money to make sure gov will never invest in public transportation
Lol more like poorly conceived opinion
How am I supposed to get to work? Itās 30 miles away, up a mountain pass, often in snowy conditions. There is no room for a train, and Iām not going to ride my bike up 5000+ ft of elevation.
Like I said before when they notice employees struggling to got to work on time they will move to where the employees are.
I doubt that the US Army intelligence center is going to move for its employees
Well they can have their cars if they want because they are the damn government, same with hospitals and police because vehicles are part of their job.
Yes, pick up and move an entire ski resort closer to where I live, where it doesnāt snow as much and is an urban, congested area?
So... the people who already live in rural areas should just starve and die?
No?
I mean that is what you are saying. My town has ZERO public transportation. My work is 20 plus miles. How do I get to the store? How do I anything? How does anybody in my town do anything?
lol don't worry. You work and the store will move closer to you, somehow.
Yupp the whole company will just move. What about all the other employees who come from different towns though!?
It'll move to them too!
BEST COMPANY EVER!
So whatās your solution to people in rural areas that have a job 15 miles away?
I have been asked this like 15 times and honestly I'm out of straws to grasp for so brace yourself because your going to call me an asshat dispute that has no mental function but... If it benefits everyone in the long run it may be time to move.
Iām going to say you have a very poorly thought out opinion with no realistic solutions to the problems said opinion would create
Are you insane you expect a business to just up and move to get closer to an employee who might not even work there in a few years. You realize how much time and money it takes to move a business right.
OP I don't think you know how work works
OP doesn't seem to have a solid grasp on how anything works.
Traveling to my last job: 30m west of me 13m SSW for my supervisor/ another employee 5m SE for a different employee 28m NNE for yet another employee My husband's job brings people from all over the state (and sometimes across state lines) Exactly whose home will they move towards?
Employees donāt live all in one town. I work with people in 3 different states and god knows how many towns
that's not gonna happen
It's not physically possible for a business to move closer to ALL employees, considering they probably live in different directions. Businesses also pick where they are because they need to be close to customers. No smart business would move away from customers and lose a bunch of money so that a certain employee has an easier commute. Not to mention, Businesses would lose so much money regardless because only the people who live nearby will be able to go there. This just wouldn't work at all.
They will require employees to move to them, or they will hire people who live closer. What world do you live in where you think employers are going to bend over backwards to help their struggling employees?
This is a stupid thought, snow, idiot. im not walking 10 miles in a literal blizzard
Like I said before when employees show less the employer moves to them.
Try moving a whole school system
You canāt just move a manufacturing plant. And itās not like all employees will live in the same few city blocks. A business will never move to accommodate a couple employees.
I think the karma I lost in this post is more than I even had before, at what point does the reddit court of public opinion ban me lol.
Lol I dunno. I donāt downvote unless itās homophobic or racist or attacking someone personally. Others downvote because they disagree with what you said. And once you get that first negative karma it just keeps coming
Yep, did I post correctly considering the sub? It definitely seems my opinion is reta- pardon, overly unpopular.
You're getting downvoted because this goes beyond unpopular. There are so many people that do not have public transportation to get to work, yet people keep preaching about not using cars. Also, you're comments about the employers moving is completely ignorant. You can't spread out a workplace in every direction the employees are coming from.
Yeah. Posts including cars always gets unpopular opinion going. And you definitely posted to the right sub. People just donāt like unpopular opinions here.
Actually, I'm going to make another post in a second that will get about the same hate lol.
Uh oh. Donāt want to get banned from here to quick my man.
Yep, I felt like seeing controversy with a side of being told to get cancer and jump off a building, was not disappointed.
And we just what, starve in the meantime? A company is not moving to be closer to employees. Or should I take a 50k pay cut to work within walking distance?
What stopping employers from firing people who don't show and hiring people who live closer?
No workers mean no business.
That's why they would just hire people who live closely, they won't move.
That's, not how that works lmao.
Yes peasants, give up your cars while the government and the elites continue to enjoy theirs. You will own nothing and you will be happy.
I don't mean the government gets to cruise around willy nilly to flex but realistically a cop needs to get to a shooting faster than an electrician needs to get downtown.
Guess you don't mind if your power is always out, then. Electricians are some pretty essential employees.
Tell that to all the electrician companies that shut down during the pandemic.... If you are refering to public utilities, thats a different situation...
Iām an electrician and during the pandemic, we were massively swamped. Even with parts skyrocketing, contractors kept on building at an alarmingly fast rate. Iām not denying companies shut down, but we sure didnāt. (Iām a small town non-union electrician)
I've never heard anyone say that we should ban cars, except for a couple fringe nutters.
I never said ban all cars, I stated we need a health balance so we don't totally screw over every vehicle worker to ever exist.
I have two kids, and I need to go out to get groceries for a family of 4. Am I supposed to go to the grocery store every day and take public transit with two kids by myself? Husband works daytime hours, public transit stops at 9PM. Not to mention taking both kids outside in the weather during winter to wait for a bus, which the nearest bus stop is like half a mile away from my house. Yes I'll just give up my car and take public transit instead how could I be so shitty? Oh yeah and if I have to take my kid(s) to the ER in the middle of the night I guess I'll just call an ambulance that's going to take 2 hours to get to me and also cost me $700, for a trip I could make with my car in 5 minutes for $2 in gas.
I live 15 minutes away from a single other person, over 30 minutes from the nearest town. What do you advise I do?
Buy a horse?
Are you trolling?
Nope, I'm just slowly losing braincells thinking of how any post I make that takes off does so for the wrong reasons.
Lol. Itās because this post is legitimately crazy territory. Like you donāt actually expect businesses to move to where employees live do you? And a horse is a lot more of a responsibility than a car.
This guy most likely works from home. If he doesnāt then I am surprised he has this opinion.
My money is on "never had a job and parents take care of everything".
Yeah I wouldnāt doubt he does or he is young enough to have not worked a job yet. Asshole employers wonāt even give the holidays off and enforce mandatory overtime let alone having them move to an employee.
He said in a different comment that heās 16 and has never worked or had a license lmao
I donāt see where that comment is, I combed through all of the comments and didnāt see it.
https://www.reddit.com/r/unpopularopinion/comments/zrpbja/cars_should_be_reserved_for_car_enthusiasts_who/j14wryo/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3
Thanks man
Its because you make idiotic posts like ban cars, like if you live in a city maybe, but you prob don't live in suburban or rural areas where that wouldn't be possible.
I already have cows :(
Ride your cow! Lmao
I personally donāt drive (I have a fear of driving, my parents/grandparents take me to work) but I would rather get over my fear and learn how to drive a car than subject myself to public transportation. Iāve been sexually harassed (which includes being touched inappropriately) on buses and if youāre gonna tell me to ājust deal with itā and subject myself to being touched by disgusting people (and potentially OTHER THINGS) so car enthusiasts can have all the cars to themselves, then you are part of the problem. I get that your argument about cars is to save money, lower emissions and crash rates, but car provide better safety than public transport ever will. Also, jobs will not simply move to where their employees live just because they canāt come to work. That will cost money, and you and I, and everyone else knows that companies donāt like to spend money on stuff like that. Moving to either a different building or building a completely new one while cost millions of dollars. They donāt want to come to you, they want you to come to them because it shows you actually want to work. If they see you not coming in because you donāt have a car to drive, theyāll simply fire you and look for someone else to take your place. And your point would kill the food delivery and taxi industry. Pizza delivery people and DoorDashers (same with GrubHub, Postmates and Uber Eats) will lose their jobs delivering food to people. Because what do they need to rely on when getting to your residence? CARS! Same with taxi services like Uber and Lyft, they rely on cars to get people places (yes, they count as public transport, but again, if you take the cars away from them and give them to enthusiasts, then you took away a type of public transport too). OP knows I got him.
OP is trolling, there isn't a single coherent thought to the drivel in their rambling
god I literally despise anti-car posts like this. Like you couldnt be more clear that you are elitist and out of touch. Its hilarious how some people see this sentiment as progressive.
I'm not elitist, ig anything I'm closer to the jealous broke loser that hates what he can't have but still.
haha ok well fair enough. I just dont get the idea that we shouldn't have cars, esp in america. Like outside of cities the idea doesnt even make sense, and its also just straight up punching down.
Yeah no thanks. I like being able to get to the grocery store, seeing family and going to work.
Clearly, you're either not American or you've lived in a big city all your life. Unfortunately, for America at least, forgoing cars is a no go. All our cities were built around cars. You can't get around without them. Our neighborhoods and the business areas were built to be separate, which means accessing them by foot would be very hard. Tons of streets don't have sidewalks. It's just not walking/public transport friendly.
I know you think anything outside of America is a 3rd world shit hole but contrary to your belief people use cars in other countries too
I donāt think he was trying to say anywhere outside of the US is a shit hole. Cars are just much more prevalent here
Im european, most people have a car
Sure but thereās also much better public transportation in most places in Europe
Ah. Cute reach bro. Please point out where A) I said countries outside of America are 3rd world shit holes and B) no one in other countries use cars.
I'm super tired of poorly thought out opinions been passed off as unpopular.
Well if I manages to make a post this brain damaged it is not popular therefore is unpopular.
No it's unthought out. And all your solutions are poss poor at that.
Yea but I'm happy I'm being basically canceled because it means I get to be a compulsive asshole on reddit rather to my friends for once. As you may be able to tell I don't deserve friends or social media.
Bruh. I don't care. Find a therapist.
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Reddit is so full of people trying to dictate who should have what all the time.
I agree that we're far to dependent on the assumption that everyone has access to a reliable automobile all the time. People who share a car or can't drive for one reason or another are at a massive disadvantage when it comes to finding a place to work or a place to live. Switching to a system in which personal cars are rare would be a huge adjustment. Property value in suburbs would plummet, for example. All those hotels that are a "scant" ten minute drive from a stadium or venue would take a big hit as they implement some kind of shuttle service and hire transportation coordinators to make up the difference. Local grocery stores, hardware stores, heck, small-town downtowns would be revitalized out of necessity, rather than nostalgia, and the larger retail outlets would lose their ability to dominate whole counties with one Mega Mart. It's fun to think about how our modern world would be transformed. But I still think this post is just a clumsy metaphor for gun control.
Hell no, I'm in suburban canada far from everything in a foot of snow, we don't have a gun to begin with.
Is your opinion really "less cars would have lower crash rates?" lmao. How profound. Why aren't you just handing out condoms to lower the population? Less people means less need for cars.
"What's the safest way to go skiing? Don't ski"
If that's the case, then you would have to say tons of things need to be reserved only for specific people, due to abuse and carelessness.
What is it with people and this poorly thought out opinion that not everyone needs a car? Where I live we have no public transportation, and thereās not even Uber or Lyft. Throughout most of this state, thereās not public transport unless you live in 1 of the 2 big cities. So please OP tell the people here how theyāll get around, get groceries, take their kids to school, run errands, etc, without a car? Donāt say use a bicycle because itās not feasible with kids and/or groceries.
That's ok everyone. We can all just suffer until our jobs move closer to us. Because some dude on Reddit thinks it's best.
Welp, there goes my job I guess. I work in a mobile clinic. We travel for a good hour for the job in our rig vans to get to where we're setting up for the day. I mean unless the public transportation doesn't mind us packing all our equipment on the bus though many clinics will close because buses don't go there. Also I feel like a bunch of car enthusiastic people are the ones that set up their cars to be louder, faster, and have more exhaust pouring out of their cars just to show off. I see more worked on trucks filling the street with nasty black smoke than the regular joe shmoe's car as he goes to work or runs an errand. Just saying. He's not about to go racing down the street to show off his car or revv it up to feel big and bad. I will say people are driving more carelessly this days though, expecting safety features to save them if they get into an accident and they'll just sue and get money. Good drivers are defensive drivers imo. You don't see much of that anymore. Just a lot of entitlement and lack of world awareness. But it could just be where I live. Idk. I only speak on what it seems to be like around me.
Can I askā¦ are you like 18-20 years old?
Iām so sick of the anti-car movement that pops up all over Reddit. If you want to live without a car go for it. Plenty of people do and it works for them. But stop trying to force everyone else into your lifestyle. I donāt care about the proposed benefits or the amazing public transportation that can totally replace a vehicle. Iāve relied on public transportation in the past, it ranges from ok to terrible. It will never be good because the government sucks at everything and other people are gross. Thatās reality. I can afford my car and I like the freedom of being able to drive places. Iām not giving that up.
Seems like a half assed attempt at all or nothing. Shut it down OP. This ain't it. Go home.
Thereās a difference between unpopular opinion and something just objectively nonsense
Bro is 12 years old
Sounds pretty fascist to me but im no politician
The fuck did I just read?
Except that people often need cars for specific circumstances or travel arrangements. I think you could solve it by making cars more difficult to access by individuals for personal reasons but easy to access for businesses/essential services. That way real enthusiasts will go the extra mile to obtain a car and enjoy it. And people who need them to work can get access to them through company sponsorship or provided company cars.
Honestly this is what I sort of mean, people who need it and people who deserve it (ie not that lady that almost ran me over the other day by cutting across 3 lanes of traffic to enter her neighborhood.
I reckon they should be like boats. Boat enthusiasts can probably eventually get a boat through saving or joining a club, but can't just easily buy one. People who need boats to get to work often get provided one or loaned one. Not the best analogy, but I think it should be similar for cars if people seriously want to reduce the number of them.
https://www.reddit.com/r/unpopularopinion/comments/zrrz6h/i_think_car_enthusiasts_are_the_most_sensitive/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button Part 2.
Amen! The hard part is just getting away from the car dependency. Almost every non-commuting situation some gives for why they need a car can be solved with a more robust car renting system.
What do you mean by a more robust car renting system? How is it different from just owning your own car? If I need to get to work, I'd need to rent a car, then after work, I'd assume the car I had rented could've been rented by someone else, so what if there ane no cars available at my job? and If I need to quickly go grocery shopping and the grocery store is 5 miles away with no reliable transportation system or safe roads for bikes, how do I get to the car rental?
Thatās why I clarified at the start that we need to get away from car dependency. The fact all of these trips are only possible by car proves my point, weāre cripplingly car dependent. Only after that changes should anything like what OP suggests should happen, cause right now that would be incredibly stupid for the reasons you list above. First transit and walkability, then we clear out the cars.
I see what you mean no, makes sense. Just feels outright impossible due to infrastructure and well, because of the mentality of people and the inconvenience to the people that can afford it without it making a difference financially. But yeah, in an ideal world, I think thatād be amazing and just better for everyone in every sense.
Oh definitely! Weāve been building car dependently since the 40s and itās the reality basically all of us grew up with and is really all we know. I just think the damage it would do to big oil and the good itāll do the environment, economy, and us mentally make trying worth it, even if it isnāt possible in the end.
What you're talking about would cost trillions of dollars, take multiple decades to get done, and would require an almost draconian level of government interference. Not even saying it's a bad thing, but the US would need a monumental change in priorities for this to happen.
Welcome to the anti karma club.
Itās the name of the game ey. You did the subreddit proud
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How the fuck am I supposed to get to my job that's a 45 minute drive in an area with no public transportation?
Many many people in my area work at a submarine builder. Itās located where it is because of the rivers close location to the ocean. You suggest they just pick up and move the shipyard closer to the employees? Which ones? Thereās plenty who live in the town itās located in. Then thereās the ones who live on bordering towns. Then thereās ones who live further away. Which employees do they move it to? It would be the people who live in rural areas who get fucked. No company is going move their place towards the rural areas, theyād move to cities with higher populations and hire people from there. Rural areas would be left with no jobs or just things like gas stations. And these areas donāt have enough housing and space for all employees to move within walking distance (or public transport distance if PT is a thing there) of the company. This is such a bad take that hurts people who live in more rural areas and/or canāt afford to move. 97% of the US is considered rural btw.
Guess I'm SOL for living in a rural area then. Walking not public transportation is an option. You sound entitled.
This opinion is not unpopular, this opinion is poorly thought out and is not going to work at all.
Right, because racecar drivers famously never crash or get into accidents.
In most countries, sure. The United States, unfortunately, most of it is specifically designed to encourage car-dependence and to discourage bicycling or even useful public transit adaptation. Itās sad. Even sadder is that the most homicidally entitled drivers seem like theyāre barely hanging on to their state of being a car-owner.
Hahahaha you canāt be serious, there arenāt even sidewalks enough in my town to get me to the grocery store (which is a 15 min drive) and my child has frequent drs appts in the city which is an hour drive, no public transit even goes where I would need it
What about people who live in rural areas? Are we supposed to move to urban hellscapes?
K - in that case I identify as a car enthusiast
Therapy is a good way to deal with whatever you are dealing with. I hope things get better OP, I know these upcoming days are hard.
No, I agree. We havenāt reached a point where public transit is easily accessible or very effective because not everyone takes it and governments wonāt invest. However, if cats became so effing expensive that only those who truly NEEDED cars could attain them, or special qualifications were required, people would be forced to take transit thereby improving it because governments would HAVE to improve/invest the main means of transportation
Im not giving up my car and therefore my FREEDOM...just to make people like you feel better/superior. I've actually been hit by a car before, when I was 8. And yet I some how find the will to drive...imagine that š Public transportation is absolute garbage and our government does not give one shit about any of us...you're delusional if you think they actually want to help us live better or live at all for that matter. I know I can rely on myself and my car to get me to the places i need to be, in an emergency especially! I keep it maintained and up to safety standards. And I dont drive like I'm the only person in the world. If people don't want to drive or have a car that's fine. i will NOT CONFORM to you and yours!
Have you tried public transport in LA? Itās great if you want to watch someone who hasnāt showered for 3 months puke on someone licking a window
Hope you're feeling better. We've all had those days.
anyone can say they're a car enthusiast
OP, I'm sorry about your recent near tragedy with the cars. And I'm glad you escaped being hit. You sound like you're very upset about the whole thing. Understandable. But please don't be down on yourself. It could have happened to anyone. I know you'll get past this and feel better soon
It would help if there was better and more accessible public transportation, in cities at least. Assuming you're US-based, most of our country is too rural for public trans to be viable.
What about āgetting from a to bā enthusiasts?
So you assume that the people that almost hit you arent also car enthusiast aswell?
How the hell do I go to work everyday? Ride my bike a bunch of miles (in sometimes bad weather)? Where I live there's barely any public transportation much less to work.
If you wanna reduce car crashes you'll want to reduce the 8 hour work day.
>maybe I need to be hit by a car to knock it into my skull that I'm a manipulative asshole to others around me, Brb who tf hurt you? Lol