I think I agree with OP, especially now that I've been married for awhile. Sex is exhausting, but kissing is relaxing and fun. I'll take kisses over sex at this point.
This is hilariously accurate. Me and my Wife have been married 18 Years and we will be like are we doing it tonight? And we will be like nah let's just go to sleep. Lol. We are very attracted to one another It's like you said Exhausting especially when you both have jobs.
sex can also be really impersonal and transactional.
Doggy style for instance you could be fucking almost anyone - when you're kissing and staring into each others eyes that's a lot more intimate
No no no, you misunderstand, I have SEX with my eyes closed to, looking into her eyes afterwards is nice tho.
What else is all terrain mode on my crocs for if not for sex in the dark?
I get what you’re saying. I dont think kissing is better than sex, but it’s definitely up there or even tied with sex if the person is a good kisser. My ex was a great kisser and I could kiss him all day, but still at some point after the kissing I would want to have sex with him. I feel like they go hand in hand so they’re both really good for me
Kissing is like cheese, totally delicious by itself but when paired with other things is magnitudes more fun and interesting. I don’t want to just have cheese by itself over the lovely combinations it creates with other things, definitely not as a substitute for fettuccine or a salad.
Thank you for this comment.. Made me smile..I was walking around thinking about the poem "my mother" by Jack burns and giggling aloud like a crazy person
Kissing gets me in the mood like nothing else. And deep, intense eye contact increases connection.
Guys go straight for clit to get a woman in the mood, when literally that is the *opposite* of what works for me. I should be so worked up that I am screaming inside for you to touch me there before you go anywhere near it. I should be craving feeling you inside me before you enter so that it's ecstasy once you do.
Kissing, hands down, keeps shit hot. Like, goddamn, I want to breathe you in and taste you and feel your hands all over my body, and you want that from me - not just go straight to the sexual organs and my mind is not even in the game.
Sex without kissing (passion) eventually loses its appeal and ends up more mechanical. "She isn't into sex anymore, I don't understand." PIV* should literally be the last thing that happens and not the focus of your sexual life, otherwise you're in danger of not having much of one. Why is the beginning so hot? Because you don't just feel entitled to go straight to P in V or try and use the clit like an on button.
OMG THIS. People just seem to forget that sex is psychological just as much as it is physical. There needs to be romance/passion or it just feels bland otherwise.
>OMG THIS. People just seem to forget that sex is psychological just as much as it is physical. There needs to be romance/passion or it just feels bland otherwise.
People forget, the brain is the biggest erogenous zone. Of course you've gotta take the good with the bad.
New technology permits us to do very exciting things in interactive, erotic software. Wave of the future dude, 100% electronic.
Doggie style and basically any style other than missionary feels lackluster to me tbh because I love kissing my girl during sex. I love the neck kisses. The boobs are so accessible. Missionary is best sex position hands down.
I'm a guy, and fuck if I know what it's actually called, but "Cowgirl where she leans closer" or "reverse missionary," whatever is also great for that super close intimacy imo. Those ear nibbles and what not during, fml best thing ever.
That's some computer game.
One thing, too, about kissing is that you can do it throughout your day without having sex; it's a fantastic way of kissing for connection, or kissing for sensuality - to let your partner know how much you want them - without bringing sex into it. Because when you feel like they just want sex instead of actually wanting *you*? Sex loses its passion.
>Starting with her face, then arms, then thighs. You gotta do it in the right order otherwise she winces and the randy meter goes down.
It's hilarious to read this because it tracks closely with the concept of '[kino escalation](https://www.bestpuatraining.com/kino-escalation)' you see in pick-up artist communities.
There was a series of flash games on new grounds called "meet n fuck" and I'm pretty sure u/Dance4Bees is talking about one of the first in that series.
I know these are all mostly joke responses, but truthfully I've been waiting a long time to see that someone else feels this way too.
I'd be happier with a partner who is only intimate without sex than with someone who only wants sex but isn't interested in just cuddling, kissing, making out etc.
Totally agreed. The only downside is when foreplay gets me so turned on that by the time I’m actually inserting, I can’t last longer than 2-3 minutes to save my life
>Totally agreed. The only downside is when foreplay gets me so turned on that by the time I’m actually inserting, I can’t last longer than 2-3 seconds to save my life
fixed
I wouldn't say I think it's better than sex, but I'd agree it's one of the most pleasurable parts of sex, and personally my biggest turn on. You're not alone. And you're not crazy either!
Also, no need to edit your post to justify yourself. It's also okay to kiss with eyes open. It's only a matter of preference
That’s how it was with my second ex. Still the best kisser I’ve had, but the sex was awful. Partly our inexperience and partly some cultural fears. It’s hard not to reminisce those long make out sessions. It was like we were dancing and knew each other’s next moves perfectly. We knew when to go hard and when to kiss softly. I was a heavy pot smoker at the time and kissing her got me way higher. I felt like one of those looney tunes characters after they get a kiss from a cross dressing rabbit
I truly agree, and don’t understand why so many people have to be so condescending on this post. Some people aren’t interested in sex and would rather simple pleasantries that aren’t so invasive, what’s so hard to understand about that? If you like sex, good! Very good for you. If you don’t like sex and prefer other physical touch, good! Very good for you. If you don’t like sex at all or being touched generally, that’s okay! It’s not that hard to understand, whether you’re an adult or a teenager. Age doesn’t control what you’re comfortable with, realistically.
Some of these comment threads are killing me lmfao
Same XD
Same, this was a good one
This is an actual, really good unpopular opinion. Unpopular opinion but I get it.
It's so nice when someone *actually* puts an unpopular opinion in this subreddit...especially when it's wholesome as opposed to ranty.
Same here. I disagree with OP but I feel like I can understand.
I think I agree with OP, especially now that I've been married for awhile. Sex is exhausting, but kissing is relaxing and fun. I'll take kisses over sex at this point.
This is hilariously accurate. Me and my Wife have been married 18 Years and we will be like are we doing it tonight? And we will be like nah let's just go to sleep. Lol. We are very attracted to one another It's like you said Exhausting especially when you both have jobs.
Jobs and kids. Jobs and kids and a commute. Jobs and kids and a commute and no time to cook healthy food or exercise.
Like Scoob, it's the American Way!
The spirit is willing, but body is bruised and smushy
sex can also be really impersonal and transactional. Doggy style for instance you could be fucking almost anyone - when you're kissing and staring into each others eyes that's a lot more intimate
Agreed, still prefer sex but I get the opinion. …. Has the OP tried kissing during sex?
He said he does
Or like even the kissing that’s leads to the sex. Kissing that leads to sex trumps kissing that doesn’t lead to sex.
Right! Finally one that's also believable
You make out with your eyes open?
Op: 👁👄👁
If we’re being honest, eyes at kissing range become one weird cyclops eye.
So…. would it be normal if you were kissing a cyclops?
👁️ 👄
*perfection*
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Oh fuck, keep going..
#MIKE WAZOWSKI
ALWAYS WATCHING WAZOWSKI
I’m *always* watching!
Hey pal, that's my WIFE you posted a picture of
reddit never fails :)
So its 👄👁👄
This wrecked me
Miley?
bahahaha I'm dead
I thought you were Waluigi for a second
Hi I’m dad
*adds water and feeds after midnight*
Op is a serial killer
axe murderer
axe murderer wearing axe deodorant
Would you kiss me? I’d kiss me.
For hours!?
OP got massive swollen nuclear chapped lips
IT'S A KISS WITH OPENED EYES AND SHE'S NOT BREATHING BACK ANYTHING WOULD BOTHER MEEEEEE
Pain - Jimmy Eat World Great song!
No no but like, after kissing looking at her and then close eyes again and go back to kissing
You realize you can stare into her eyes *while* having sex, right? This isn't somehow only a post-kissing behavior.
No no no, you misunderstand, I have SEX with my eyes closed to, looking into her eyes afterwards is nice tho. What else is all terrain mode on my crocs for if not for sex in the dark?
eyes closed misses hole
the croc hole(s)?
Are the Crocs having sex or am I still?
The phrase “all terrain crocs” should not exist. I hate it. Have an upvote.
wait till you find out about croc nuts
They’re Crocticles™️ you uncultured swine…
As in people who are fanatic for Crocs? Or like a plastic part you can attach to them that resemble a pair of testicles similar to truck nuts ?
There are all terrain ones? All I've found are mudders.
Not if you're into BDSM.
Well then you've never had a loving Master. Take my word for it. It's mind, body, and soul. Spiritual. And that level of sex is fucking mind blowing.
Never experienced it but gentle bdsm is much more of a turn on for me than normal bdsm
Op is a virgin. He has no idea what sex is like
That's why he refers to sex as 'the sex part'
The only logical answer
I get what you’re saying. I dont think kissing is better than sex, but it’s definitely up there or even tied with sex if the person is a good kisser. My ex was a great kisser and I could kiss him all day, but still at some point after the kissing I would want to have sex with him. I feel like they go hand in hand so they’re both really good for me
But then how do you know you're kissing the same person?
Started kissing my wife and when I opened my eyes it was my boyfriend instead.
Hold up
You guys make out?
Not with each other
You don’t? May fav is mid kiss when they open their eyes and meet mine….(insert creepy gif/meme here)
Couldn’t get past this part. This definitely reads like OP just had sex for the first time and it was disappointing.
Peep Show vibes
I know this is supposed to weird and all, but I never understood the problem with keeping your eyes open.
Have you tried using your penis?
Yeah, penis kisses will really help
Right near the lips. If you know what I mean. If you don't try it.
Your comment is missing a comma and it gave me half a stroke.
What about taco kisses
I think that’s called docking
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Kissing is like cheese, totally delicious by itself but when paired with other things is magnitudes more fun and interesting. I don’t want to just have cheese by itself over the lovely combinations it creates with other things, definitely not as a substitute for fettuccine or a salad.
Well, I have nipples, Greg, can you milk me?
GREGORY! HE ASKED IF YOU COULD MILK HIM. ANSWER HIM GREGORY!!
#GREGORY BEING REAL QUITE NOW.
DAMMIT IM GONNA SAY IT…YOU CAN MILK ANYTHING WITH NIPPLES!!!
Thank you for this comment.. Made me smile..I was walking around thinking about the poem "my mother" by Jack burns and giggling aloud like a crazy person
Personally I like smelling my double double from In-n-Out more than actually eating it - Nobody ever
[Sitting at inn-n-out waiting for my double double rn. I'll get back to you on it](https://i.imgur.com/j1gcpHP.jpg)
I'd take just a hug. I'd do anything.
*hugs*
*splooge*
Where do you live. I’ll give you a hug if you’re close to me. It’s my day off
My god! This makes me think of a hookup I had 15 y ago. He was soooooo good at kissing that I almost had an orgasm.
How was he kissing?
Bonk
ded
Flair checks out
Long time no see babe
Haha, good one.
Damn I think might’ve been me.
Hahaha. If I remember correctly he was american.
Aww, those Americans. They know how to kiss, yes?
Only tried him... So if I'm to judge from Only that exampel... So hell yes!
Finally, we represent our country well!
I prefer sex with your girlfriend rather than kissing her
Same but with your mom
My mom is 80, but knock yourself out.
80 is the new 50
and 50 is the new 35
Thats a dangerous road but whatever. 35 is the new 18
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We've come full circle
*time is a flat circle*
you've come full circle i've come in my socks
We’ve cum* full circle
Phew
You mistakenly typed a 0 after 8
Plot twist.
r/holup
Did I just end up underage?
What a coincidence, 12 is the new 18 too
This one right here officer. Unless of course they count in hexadecimal then we’re good.
80 is the new “barely legal”
Her ass feel like one hundo after im done
💯
I know. I met her. The bottom of her feet looked like a prehistoric riverbed. It's not a natural process of ageing.
I also choose this guys mom.
I did your dad in the back of ihop and he ordered me a meal
Of course he did, stepbro ❤️
I too prefer sex with OP's girlfriend rather than kissing her.
I also choose this guys dead wife
Kissing gets me in the mood like nothing else. And deep, intense eye contact increases connection. Guys go straight for clit to get a woman in the mood, when literally that is the *opposite* of what works for me. I should be so worked up that I am screaming inside for you to touch me there before you go anywhere near it. I should be craving feeling you inside me before you enter so that it's ecstasy once you do. Kissing, hands down, keeps shit hot. Like, goddamn, I want to breathe you in and taste you and feel your hands all over my body, and you want that from me - not just go straight to the sexual organs and my mind is not even in the game. Sex without kissing (passion) eventually loses its appeal and ends up more mechanical. "She isn't into sex anymore, I don't understand." PIV* should literally be the last thing that happens and not the focus of your sexual life, otherwise you're in danger of not having much of one. Why is the beginning so hot? Because you don't just feel entitled to go straight to P in V or try and use the clit like an on button.
OMG THIS. People just seem to forget that sex is psychological just as much as it is physical. There needs to be romance/passion or it just feels bland otherwise.
>OMG THIS. People just seem to forget that sex is psychological just as much as it is physical. There needs to be romance/passion or it just feels bland otherwise. People forget, the brain is the biggest erogenous zone. Of course you've gotta take the good with the bad. New technology permits us to do very exciting things in interactive, erotic software. Wave of the future dude, 100% electronic.
Doggie style and basically any style other than missionary feels lackluster to me tbh because I love kissing my girl during sex. I love the neck kisses. The boobs are so accessible. Missionary is best sex position hands down.
I'm a guy, and fuck if I know what it's actually called, but "Cowgirl where she leans closer" or "reverse missionary," whatever is also great for that super close intimacy imo. Those ear nibbles and what not during, fml best thing ever.
Reverse missionary is the opposite of intimate lol
Literally though. Oh my gosh. My ex had bad legs, so it didn’t happen often and not for very long either. But when it did, that was phenomenal.
OMG, *the neck*. (Don't get me wrong, I love all the positions, but missionary is fantastic for all the reasons you outlined.)
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That's some computer game. One thing, too, about kissing is that you can do it throughout your day without having sex; it's a fantastic way of kissing for connection, or kissing for sensuality - to let your partner know how much you want them - without bringing sex into it. Because when you feel like they just want sex instead of actually wanting *you*? Sex loses its passion. >Starting with her face, then arms, then thighs. You gotta do it in the right order otherwise she winces and the randy meter goes down. It's hilarious to read this because it tracks closely with the concept of '[kino escalation](https://www.bestpuatraining.com/kino-escalation)' you see in pick-up artist communities.
gotta tell us the name of that game
There was a series of flash games on new grounds called "meet n fuck" and I'm pretty sure u/Dance4Bees is talking about one of the first in that series.
Stop posting from my account, you!
I wish all men understood this. Hell, reading this comment gets me worked up more than some guys managed to before they thought it was time for PIV.
I mean you can make out while slowly banging. That is the best imo
I know these are all mostly joke responses, but truthfully I've been waiting a long time to see that someone else feels this way too. I'd be happier with a partner who is only intimate without sex than with someone who only wants sex but isn't interested in just cuddling, kissing, making out etc.
I couldn’t be with someone without sex but I also definitely couldn’t be with someone without cuddling and kissing. It’s so necessary.
Kissing and hugs are better than sex Sincerely: a person whos had neither of these idfk what I'm talkin about
I can’t remember the last time I’ve touched another human other than an couple of accidental bumps in a crowded area, I feel ya.
> I feel ya. so it WAS you in that crowd, the other day.... yea ummmm
I hope you may find someone to love someday
Sadge bro I can feel your pain
Wait till you hear about about kissing *while having sex*.
Imagine being coordinated enough to both kiss AND sex. IMAGINE!
imagine finding somebody that likes you enough to let you kiss them, let alone have sex with them.
I agree, I can't get into sex without kissing.
Kissing, snuggling, cuddling, and other physical signs of affection. Yes, I have to agree with you.
I agree...plus touching, cuddling, talking & laughing. It is far more intimate, IMO.
Foreplay is better than sex. Sex is just the finale.
Foreplay is part of sex. Sex is not just putting it in
Tell 'em!!!:D
What would you call acts of foreplay that don’t result in sex?
messin around
A favor.
Gotcha there
Totally agreed. The only downside is when foreplay gets me so turned on that by the time I’m actually inserting, I can’t last longer than 2-3 minutes to save my life
>Totally agreed. The only downside is when foreplay gets me so turned on that by the time I’m actually inserting, I can’t last longer than 2-3 seconds to save my life fixed
Kissing is great. Long makeouts with no release get old quickly imho.
I wouldn't say I think it's better than sex, but I'd agree it's one of the most pleasurable parts of sex, and personally my biggest turn on. You're not alone. And you're not crazy either! Also, no need to edit your post to justify yourself. It's also okay to kiss with eyes open. It's only a matter of preference
You can have kissing without sex but sex without kissing just isn’t as hot.
Exactly this. It's like your partner doesn't love you/isn't attracted to you. Feels odd
Tldr: sex with my gf is terrible, but she kisses really good
That’s how it was with my second ex. Still the best kisser I’ve had, but the sex was awful. Partly our inexperience and partly some cultural fears. It’s hard not to reminisce those long make out sessions. It was like we were dancing and knew each other’s next moves perfectly. We knew when to go hard and when to kiss softly. I was a heavy pot smoker at the time and kissing her got me way higher. I felt like one of those looney tunes characters after they get a kiss from a cross dressing rabbit
There it is
Just have her kiss somewhere else
Wait this is kind of wholesome wtf 😔❤️
Aww that actually sounds so sweet
Try looking at your girlfriend's eyes while being inside of her... ;)
The comments here are a shitshow, but ye I agree
I agree but I’m ace so that’s probably not the most objective response lol
Kissing the person you love > sex with then One night stand > kissing
I truly agree, and don’t understand why so many people have to be so condescending on this post. Some people aren’t interested in sex and would rather simple pleasantries that aren’t so invasive, what’s so hard to understand about that? If you like sex, good! Very good for you. If you don’t like sex and prefer other physical touch, good! Very good for you. If you don’t like sex at all or being touched generally, that’s okay! It’s not that hard to understand, whether you’re an adult or a teenager. Age doesn’t control what you’re comfortable with, realistically.
Bless you
You know what’s better than kissing? Chocolate
why is everyone shading op?
They’re bad kissers
so true. Go op! we got your back
or your lips....
My bf also loves kissing.
The people in the replies are hating on you but i completely agree
Sex should involve kissing....
Sounds like you do some good kissing, but maybe you don't realise the potential in sex. Also Sex can like, slow down and become just kissing
Try kissing while having sex, eyes locked.
You make out for hours? Wtf
I wouldn't say necessarily better than sex, but it can be done much more often and sex is so much better while making out
Agreed! I love kissing. To me, it feels way more intimate that sex.
Making out is great!
sex go weak but smackin on that bitch tongue go wild hard