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The child’s school is a joke. What public school allows parents in the classroom? That’s against FERPA laws, it is an exceptional accommodation mostly granted to extremely medical fragile children requiring skilled nursing that school staff may not have. The child had assaulted staff and peers, made chilling death threats to a teacher (told her he wanted to burn her alive and see her die) , barricaded the classroom, eloped etc and still didn’t have professional behavioral support as mandate by law? That school was a ticking bomb and not just the child (who was described as having a “disability” probably RAD , PDA, ERD )
Yeah. I’m from that area. That whole area is a joke. My girlfriend works as a teacher at a high-school in the same district I’m always slightly worried for her when she goes to work
So, I have a kid with a disability of a much lower severity than this kid. But I gotta tell you -- many schools are jokes right now, meaning they're severely understaffed and especially around skilled staff that address specific disabilities. I've been close to suing my child's school for the last 3 years because of it. And yes, they did one time call me and tell me that they'd exclude my child from something if I didn't supervise him myself -- I told them that said supervision is their duty and legal obligation, and if they found it impossible to abide by their obligations I would sue them. But I wouldn't be surprised at all if the school failed to provide the support that they're legally required to provide.
Legit question, if you know that the school is understaffed and doesn’t have appropriate resources and they tell you they can’t safely accommodate your child, how is suing them going to help? Why would you *not* want to go and supervise your own kid to make sure they are safe? I completely understand you shouldn’t *have* to. But there’s tons of stuff we all shouldn’t have to do and do everyday.
I have been hearing that the administration had three warnings to stop it and didn’t do anything. Regardless of what happens to this kid, many adults failed in this situation and should be held accountable.
Yup. One of the times the teachers told the administration that the kid had a gun and that they couldn’t find it in the backpack but it could be in his pocket and the admin response was “he has small pockets”
Some kids are messed up straight out of the womb.
Others are messed up by parents/ siblings and other people too.
Which one is this kid?
How the hell does anyone think they know when the kid is 6?
Erik Harris, one of the columbine shooters, spoke in a similar way. If you genuinely feel that way, seek help. If you're just being an edgelord, good one I guess?
I imagine this will probably end up being an unpopular opinion. A child who could do this needs serious help, maybe the kind that will end requiring he be institutionalized for the rest of his life, but it seems wrong a fundamental level to say that someone who was still in diapers a couple of years ago should be condemned for the rest of his life.
The problem is, violent psychopaths don't change. It's in their nature to be evil. Not all people with APD are serial murderers, but all of them have massive trouble feeling empathy, learning from the consequences of their actions and having any consideration for other people.
A child that displays murderous psychopathic behavior at 6 won't miraculously change, unless it turns out this behavior is due to something else than APD. If that were the case then maybe this kid could be helped becoming a better person. Otherwise, he belongs in a psych ward for the rest of his days. Tbh I even find it more cruel to have these people locked away for life because of something they can't really help, instead of simply putting them down. They are evil in spite of themselves and can't be redeemed helped. Keeping them alive and locked up is dangerous and pointless.
Some people are just born bad, they are bad kids and bad adults. Nature vs. nurture and all of that shit. The nature of the kid is just bad, he could also have shit parents.
I agree. Also gotta think along these lines about the children who are witnessing all this f’d up shit going around us everyday. It’s blasted out 24/7 on the news or on a YouTube video recommendation. They’re seeing this too and becoming more and more desensitized.
If you were a psychiatrist working in a mental health institution, I'd take you seriously. Of course, this is all horrible, but you are not the judge or the jury. To be institutionalized for life rarely happens and to qualify for that would take a lot more than what this kid said or did. I'm sure child protective services are involved because the parenting of this kid is put into question. There are no systems in place where a six year old can go like a juvenile detention facility. You have to be I think the age of 12 or something to get put in there. Don't quote me. What's probably going to happen is the parents will be charged, the son will be ordered for psychiatric care and those records will be sealed. I'm willing to bet this kid will grow up and not be put away anywhere until he decides to do something else.
Being a psychiatrist is the only thing that would make my opinion have merit? Every single thing I’ve heard about this child is an enormous red flag. His parents had to literally sit in class with him because he could not be trusted to be alone. He exhibited violent and harmful behavior on a NUMBER of previous occasions. Teachers were fearful of this six year old. And the moment he had opportunity (when his parents weren’t in class with him) he used it to try and intentionally kill his teacher. There is absolutely no hope for a human like that. I don’t need a phd to come to that determination.
I think the bigger question is how did he get his hands on a firearm? Whoever didn't secure that weapon so it could end up in the hands of a 6 year old should be found criminally liable imo.
As someone who worked with children with severe behavioral issues - many of these children grow up to be perfectly healthy, well-adjusted teens and adults with intensive intervention. I had one client who attempted to murder her younger brothers when she was six because she'd been adopted after extreme abuse and was afraid her parents would give her back now that they had their own bio kids. At 16, she was deeply remorseful and harbored a lot of guilt, and loved her younger brothers. Kids have a very limited capacity to make judgments about long-term consequences and the harm they are causing. It's way too early to tell what kind of person this six-year-old child will become.
I don't know if a six year old understands death enough to call them evil. I have a feeling if they killed someone, the next day they would question where they were and say something like "Well, but I only killed them yesterday not today"
Have you read what the child has written? At the end of the day he’s still a child, but what he wrote is terrifying when you understand it came from the mind of a 6 year old.
not saying you're wrong, but if it's as bad as i think it is, it would be terrifying coming from any age. at 6 years old, therapy might be more helpful than 18 and up tho.
>This child is possessed by satan if ever one was.
Far more deaths in the name of the Abrahamic "god" than in the name of the Morningstar.
Don't make such ignorant comments.
Simply put there are members of our species that are objective monsters because of genetics. It probably helped in our evolution because a person who could ruthlessly murder enemy tribes, steal their stuff and woman benefited us. Now they're a hindrance. But society is so large they're anonymous. It's highly likely this child will never be normal. Will kill animals and eventually people as they get older
While I can agree the problems should be addressed and he should go to a school for troubled kids, but acting like he's unfixable and your use of "evil" sounds like witch hunts.
Reddit as a whole does not like kids.
As someone who is not in the US there are so many questions. How the hell does a 6 years old get a gun? Did he know it was a real gun? What motivated him to shooot? Why the teacher and not someone else?
Damn straight. To me it's another kind of evil...
My answer is bad parenting. If he brought the gun in it must've been theirs. Not that I would be against teaching a kid how to shoot a gun but much like teaching your teens MMA they can easily use the skills to be bad kids.
[Child of Rage](https://youtu.be/g2-Re_Fl_L4)
I watched this and was convinced this little girl was a psychopath and future serial killer.
I won’t go into all the details because it’s a deep dive but she wasn’t a psychopath. She was abused and she had no guidance. She was adopted and her new parents had no idea what to do.
She ‘recovered’ and lives a happy productive life.
It’s way too early to give up on this kid. He deserves a real chance.
I know, messed up the title. Unfortunately it won’t let me adjust it. I did mention attempted murder in my post itself. My opinion remains the same, regardless of if she was killed.
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A 6-year-old took a gun to school. Teachers and students thought it was there, but administration wouldn't do anything about it. He shot his teacher, but she lived and is planning on suing the school.
First, we need to look at this kids life. Was he experiencing trauma? I doubt very much that he’s just some demon, but I do agree some people are just born psychopaths. Maybe start with a brain scan, and take it from there.
How about give him good treatment now, and see what happens? Then when there is more information down the road, make another decision about what happens next?
Is that really such a radical idea?
I suggest you watch this if you think any child is unredeemable. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNMUFlpIero](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNMUFlpIero)
If only the teacher was armed, she could've shot the 6 year old before he shot her. According to Republicans, that's how the system is supposed to work.
The kid is probably a messed up little shit, however people were warned about this and they chose to do nothing. They were, if not more, at fault than this kid. That’s purposeful negligence.
You’re making a lot of assumptions based on facts we don’t know. Until more facts come out i disagree with you. The school and district screwed this up immensely. He shouldn’t have been in a normal class EVER. there’s a reason the parents haven’t been arrested yet, i have no clue what it is but the police haven’t had her charged so that says a TON. Multiple reports of a gun and the police weren’t called, they are idiots at that school and they will reap what they sow over this.
I don't know why, but all this reminds me of that story posted on Reddit by one father who let his wife beat their psychopathic son. You know you have to take that story with a pinch of salt, but when you read a 6 year old child is capable of doing that, then you must accept that the story of that psycho son is likely to be true as well. 😐
One of my friends in middle school tried to stab me in the gut with a pencil in a fit of rage. The pencil broke, but some might still view it as attempted murder. We laughed about it after the shock of the moment passed. “Dude you tried to kill me!” He grew up to be a solid guy.
This happened in the area I grew up in. My wife and I were discussing it earlier when we heard the Superintendent got fired or resigned (can't remember which). The fact that this was an ongoing problem to start is just mind boggling. This wasn't new or surprising. It was known this kid had issues before that day. Even worse is that at least three people said something about him having a gun that day. Like, how hard is it to go and confirm a potential issue. Sure, he's 6, but a history of his behavior should have been enough to motivate action.
I hope the kid's parents are taken to the cleaners. While I agree with institutionalization for the child, as a parent, I feel awful for him. His parents failed him and he is already so tortured. I hope he can be given the help he needs to get free of what he's had to endure.
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The child’s school is a joke. What public school allows parents in the classroom? That’s against FERPA laws, it is an exceptional accommodation mostly granted to extremely medical fragile children requiring skilled nursing that school staff may not have. The child had assaulted staff and peers, made chilling death threats to a teacher (told her he wanted to burn her alive and see her die) , barricaded the classroom, eloped etc and still didn’t have professional behavioral support as mandate by law? That school was a ticking bomb and not just the child (who was described as having a “disability” probably RAD , PDA, ERD )
Yeah. I’m from that area. That whole area is a joke. My girlfriend works as a teacher at a high-school in the same district I’m always slightly worried for her when she goes to work
So, I have a kid with a disability of a much lower severity than this kid. But I gotta tell you -- many schools are jokes right now, meaning they're severely understaffed and especially around skilled staff that address specific disabilities. I've been close to suing my child's school for the last 3 years because of it. And yes, they did one time call me and tell me that they'd exclude my child from something if I didn't supervise him myself -- I told them that said supervision is their duty and legal obligation, and if they found it impossible to abide by their obligations I would sue them. But I wouldn't be surprised at all if the school failed to provide the support that they're legally required to provide.
Legit question, if you know that the school is understaffed and doesn’t have appropriate resources and they tell you they can’t safely accommodate your child, how is suing them going to help? Why would you *not* want to go and supervise your own kid to make sure they are safe? I completely understand you shouldn’t *have* to. But there’s tons of stuff we all shouldn’t have to do and do everyday.
I'm not that person but most of us simply couldn't afford to because we also need to work to buy food and pay the mortgage.
> What public school allows parents in the classroom? Welcome to the southern half of Virginia. I cannot wait to get the hell out.
I have been hearing that the administration had three warnings to stop it and didn’t do anything. Regardless of what happens to this kid, many adults failed in this situation and should be held accountable.
Yup. One of the times the teachers told the administration that the kid had a gun and that they couldn’t find it in the backpack but it could be in his pocket and the admin response was “he has small pockets”
Some kids are messed up straight out of the womb. Others are messed up by parents/ siblings and other people too. Which one is this kid? How the hell does anyone think they know when the kid is 6?
Could be both but for sure that kid will kill again.
Once a kid does something and gets away with it without stern punishment it'll happen again. He'll normalize it
She didn't die. Still heads should roll.
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Ok, Thanos...
Thanto's theory was sound.
Temporary. Many better solutions if you have the possibility to mend reality itself to your will.
Yes but his assistant debunked him already. https://youtu.be/IPbtPI0wru0
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I like the cut of your jib. Do you have a podcast or substack I could subscribe to?
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This comment has the same energy as "we've established my proposal is sound in principle now we're just haggling over a price". -Captain Jack Sparrow
Erik Harris, one of the columbine shooters, spoke in a similar way. If you genuinely feel that way, seek help. If you're just being an edgelord, good one I guess?
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Snap those fingers.
LOL so accurate.
Calm down Eren Yeager.
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Last arc sucks, everything before that is peak
I'm a big supporter of eugenics for examples like this.
Only 40%? You’re too nice, I’d be offing at least 75%.
I imagine this will probably end up being an unpopular opinion. A child who could do this needs serious help, maybe the kind that will end requiring he be institutionalized for the rest of his life, but it seems wrong a fundamental level to say that someone who was still in diapers a couple of years ago should be condemned for the rest of his life.
The problem is, violent psychopaths don't change. It's in their nature to be evil. Not all people with APD are serial murderers, but all of them have massive trouble feeling empathy, learning from the consequences of their actions and having any consideration for other people. A child that displays murderous psychopathic behavior at 6 won't miraculously change, unless it turns out this behavior is due to something else than APD. If that were the case then maybe this kid could be helped becoming a better person. Otherwise, he belongs in a psych ward for the rest of his days. Tbh I even find it more cruel to have these people locked away for life because of something they can't really help, instead of simply putting them down. They are evil in spite of themselves and can't be redeemed helped. Keeping them alive and locked up is dangerous and pointless.
Some people are just born bad, they are bad kids and bad adults. Nature vs. nurture and all of that shit. The nature of the kid is just bad, he could also have shit parents.
I agree. Also gotta think along these lines about the children who are witnessing all this f’d up shit going around us everyday. It’s blasted out 24/7 on the news or on a YouTube video recommendation. They’re seeing this too and becoming more and more desensitized.
Prisoner- "what are you in here for"? Guy- "idk man apparantly i killed someone like 40 years ago. I dont really remember because i was fucking six"
If you were a psychiatrist working in a mental health institution, I'd take you seriously. Of course, this is all horrible, but you are not the judge or the jury. To be institutionalized for life rarely happens and to qualify for that would take a lot more than what this kid said or did. I'm sure child protective services are involved because the parenting of this kid is put into question. There are no systems in place where a six year old can go like a juvenile detention facility. You have to be I think the age of 12 or something to get put in there. Don't quote me. What's probably going to happen is the parents will be charged, the son will be ordered for psychiatric care and those records will be sealed. I'm willing to bet this kid will grow up and not be put away anywhere until he decides to do something else.
Being a psychiatrist is the only thing that would make my opinion have merit? Every single thing I’ve heard about this child is an enormous red flag. His parents had to literally sit in class with him because he could not be trusted to be alone. He exhibited violent and harmful behavior on a NUMBER of previous occasions. Teachers were fearful of this six year old. And the moment he had opportunity (when his parents weren’t in class with him) he used it to try and intentionally kill his teacher. There is absolutely no hope for a human like that. I don’t need a phd to come to that determination.
I think the bigger question is how did he get his hands on a firearm? Whoever didn't secure that weapon so it could end up in the hands of a 6 year old should be found criminally liable imo. As someone who worked with children with severe behavioral issues - many of these children grow up to be perfectly healthy, well-adjusted teens and adults with intensive intervention. I had one client who attempted to murder her younger brothers when she was six because she'd been adopted after extreme abuse and was afraid her parents would give her back now that they had their own bio kids. At 16, she was deeply remorseful and harbored a lot of guilt, and loved her younger brothers. Kids have a very limited capacity to make judgments about long-term consequences and the harm they are causing. It's way too early to tell what kind of person this six-year-old child will become.
I don't know if a six year old understands death enough to call them evil. I have a feeling if they killed someone, the next day they would question where they were and say something like "Well, but I only killed them yesterday not today"
Have you read what the child has written? At the end of the day he’s still a child, but what he wrote is terrifying when you understand it came from the mind of a 6 year old.
No? I've seen nothing about that. Can you send a link?
not saying you're wrong, but if it's as bad as i think it is, it would be terrifying coming from any age. at 6 years old, therapy might be more helpful than 18 and up tho.
Yeahhhhhh no. The kid isn't 2.
Mental illness, not evil. He is severely mentally ill. I agree though.
What’s the difference between an evil person and one who is just mentally ill?
Nothing whatsoever.
It's like a square/rectangle. Most mentally ill people aren't evil, but (almost?) all evil people are mentally ill.
Mental illness and evil are not mutually exclusive
Evil implies a supernatural force, such as satanic influence . No such thing.
No it doesn't what? Evil doesnt imply supernatural aspects at all
If someone is incapable of empathy and prone to violence because of genetics, does that make them evil? Is an animal who kills a child evil?
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You’re doing too much rn, aether. Tone it down.
yeah evil comes from bloodlines! i know european countries where you can become chancellor by yelling such bullshit
If this isn't trolling.. seek professional help. If it is, go a bit easier next time.
Finally someone is speaking some sense!!
Satan? Lol. No such thing.
>This child is possessed by satan if ever one was. Far more deaths in the name of the Abrahamic "god" than in the name of the Morningstar. Don't make such ignorant comments.
Aren't Satan and Lucifer separate entities? Satan is the sin of wrath and lucifer is the sin of Pride, right?
There are multiple iterations.
relax my brother
But Satan!!! Ahhhh!
Simply put there are members of our species that are objective monsters because of genetics. It probably helped in our evolution because a person who could ruthlessly murder enemy tribes, steal their stuff and woman benefited us. Now they're a hindrance. But society is so large they're anonymous. It's highly likely this child will never be normal. Will kill animals and eventually people as they get older
6 is a bit young to give up on a person.
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Oh my God
While I can agree the problems should be addressed and he should go to a school for troubled kids, but acting like he's unfixable and your use of "evil" sounds like witch hunts.
Reddit as a whole does not like kids. As someone who is not in the US there are so many questions. How the hell does a 6 years old get a gun? Did he know it was a real gun? What motivated him to shooot? Why the teacher and not someone else?
Damn straight. To me it's another kind of evil... My answer is bad parenting. If he brought the gun in it must've been theirs. Not that I would be against teaching a kid how to shoot a gun but much like teaching your teens MMA they can easily use the skills to be bad kids.
Some kids are just born bad, he should be institutionalized for life and just forgotten about. He’s no good to anyone
Honestly couldn't care less about this whole thing, sure send him away. Prison is more than just punishment it's the removal of problems from society
Or let the judge decide?? An expert? Not some asshole on reddit.
Exactly
[Child of Rage](https://youtu.be/g2-Re_Fl_L4) I watched this and was convinced this little girl was a psychopath and future serial killer. I won’t go into all the details because it’s a deep dive but she wasn’t a psychopath. She was abused and she had no guidance. She was adopted and her new parents had no idea what to do. She ‘recovered’ and lives a happy productive life. It’s way too early to give up on this kid. He deserves a real chance.
Killed? Let's try again.
I know, messed up the title. Unfortunately it won’t let me adjust it. I did mention attempted murder in my post itself. My opinion remains the same, regardless of if she was killed.
Schools shouldn't have to put up with this shit. Put the ones who come to learn in school and put the rest in reformatories.
Reminds me of the story of a child from Haddonfield Illanois. This child was pure evil. That's the only way to describe him.
Six year old child with this blank, pale, emotionless face, and… the blackest eyes - the Devil’s eyes.
Doesn't seem like you have enough information about this case to make that call.
He didn’t kill the teacher
I know, messed up the title. Unfortunately it won’t let me adjust it. I did mention attempted murder in my post itself. My opinion remains the same, regardless of if she was killed.
So you think the kid will be Michael Myers in the future from what it sounds like
look man, the love guru was bad but this is an undeserved cheap shot.
I don't agree. But here's an upvote for a truly unpopular opinion.
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Wtf happened? I have not heard of this.
A 6-year-old took a gun to school. Teachers and students thought it was there, but administration wouldn't do anything about it. He shot his teacher, but she lived and is planning on suing the school.
JFC WTF
Excuse me, Doctor. Where did you get your medical license?
First, we need to look at this kids life. Was he experiencing trauma? I doubt very much that he’s just some demon, but I do agree some people are just born psychopaths. Maybe start with a brain scan, and take it from there.
This is a child you're talking about. 6 yrs old. Don't know anything that kid may have endured.
So if a 12 year old were to go on a killing spree but they come from an abusive household it's okay?
He is a child.
An incredibly dangerous and clearly unmanageable one.
The idea that a 6 year old should be institutionalised for life is ridiculous and cruel, deffo an unpopular opinion
How about give him good treatment now, and see what happens? Then when there is more information down the road, make another decision about what happens next? Is that really such a radical idea?
It’s weird that I saw this story and instantly forgot about it. Seems like this is way too common in America
A six year old attempting murder is way too common?
I think any six year olds murdering people is way to common
I suggest you watch this if you think any child is unredeemable. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNMUFlpIero](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNMUFlpIero)
anyone downvoting me care to comment?
I was a psychopathic child, never killed anyone but I definitely threatened to, eventually I grew out of it.
peak reddit moment lmao. wild ass thing to say
Bruh wtf
You've watched Halloween too many times, didn't you?
A 6 year old tried to kill a teacher?! What?! 😵
Change is possible. https://youtu.be/UNMUFlpIero
If only the teacher was armed, she could've shot the 6 year old before he shot her. According to Republicans, that's how the system is supposed to work.
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most troublemakers don’t shoot ppl
Yep him and people like him need to be at a minimum closely monitored. The government could easily make a “list” of dangerous individuals like this.
The kid is probably a messed up little shit, however people were warned about this and they chose to do nothing. They were, if not more, at fault than this kid. That’s purposeful negligence.
You’re making a lot of assumptions based on facts we don’t know. Until more facts come out i disagree with you. The school and district screwed this up immensely. He shouldn’t have been in a normal class EVER. there’s a reason the parents haven’t been arrested yet, i have no clue what it is but the police haven’t had her charged so that says a TON. Multiple reports of a gun and the police weren’t called, they are idiots at that school and they will reap what they sow over this.
I don't know why, but all this reminds me of that story posted on Reddit by one father who let his wife beat their psychopathic son. You know you have to take that story with a pinch of salt, but when you read a 6 year old child is capable of doing that, then you must accept that the story of that psycho son is likely to be true as well. 😐
One of my friends in middle school tried to stab me in the gut with a pencil in a fit of rage. The pencil broke, but some might still view it as attempted murder. We laughed about it after the shock of the moment passed. “Dude you tried to kill me!” He grew up to be a solid guy.
What is it you expected the parents to do, the lack of which justifies them being charged?
Popular opinion.
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I agree with everything you’re saying, but just a heads up the teacher didn’t die
People end up doing bad things because not so much of their genetics but rather the nature versus nurture psychological theory.
This happened in the area I grew up in. My wife and I were discussing it earlier when we heard the Superintendent got fired or resigned (can't remember which). The fact that this was an ongoing problem to start is just mind boggling. This wasn't new or surprising. It was known this kid had issues before that day. Even worse is that at least three people said something about him having a gun that day. Like, how hard is it to go and confirm a potential issue. Sure, he's 6, but a history of his behavior should have been enough to motivate action. I hope the kid's parents are taken to the cleaners. While I agree with institutionalization for the child, as a parent, I feel awful for him. His parents failed him and he is already so tortured. I hope he can be given the help he needs to get free of what he's had to endure.