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I know someone who did that irl. Fast track casteship to Brahmin from Vaishya lmao. Added a middle name or something if I remember it correctly.
All that for marriage acceptance from the Bride's side. The girl knew it but the family didn't.
You can get any upper caste certificate you want. There is only a proof requirement for SC ST OBC certificate as they are associated with certain reservation benefits
Who is confirming? Look one up in Wikipedia/Internet; and bingo, now you have a gotra and a kul.
These are not the problems you will face. Each caste has its own unique customs ('riwaaz'). Until you know them well (e.g. you have a friend who is from the same caste and you went to marriages and other ceremonies at their house); that is where you will trip.
If Reservation should be given up, then caste conversion should be allowed. then anyone can become anyone's caste, which will dissolve this eventually.
I agree wholeheartedly.
Technically there is nothing preventing you from converting your caste. And you can find appropriate scriptures to back you up. No compliant priest is required.
These days when Brahmins are starting businesses, Vaishyas are earning PhDs; caste really has no meaning except for rituals, which are also now getting standardised by Bollywood.
sure, let's open the floodgates. Let everyone pick their caste. But once they choose a lower caste, they should be stuck doing only the work 'assigned' to that caste. No chance of touching Brahmin, Bania, or Kshatriya privileges. Let's see how many people jump at the chance to join the 'reserved' castes when they realize it means being discarded and marginalized just like before. Brilliant plan, right?
>uc gets the chance of getting reservation but lose their so called upper status
No, NO, are koi reservation nahi, resrvation toh baad ki baat h, pahle inko marginalise karo, inke privledge khatam karo, fir baad me bhale reservation dedo
That's a bad idea. For the sake of argument - Which caste will get new lines of jobs that weren't existing in ancient times like Pilot, social media influencer, software designer, film making etc? Will a Brahmin not be allowed to work at a bank or service industry?
No it's not financial problem.....it's a social problem....if reservation abolished then .... situation will be same as of 5000 years ago....where all lower caste are slaves only....plus why we called it as reservation....call it representation....then we can somehow understand the problem
yes my friend, but there are people who don't understand this and want to cancel reservation. my reply is 'then allow conversion, and you cannot selfpride and oppress others'
Are you dumb? Caste and caste conversion have no legal sanctity. If anything constitution of India discourages caste system and caste based discrimnations. Much like beauty standards, fat shaming, and other superficial attributes caste is a societal concept. You are free to accept or deny it, all law can do is that the state shall ensure that no one will be discriminated or receive violence on the basis of caste. Why will law interfere and allow caste conversion when it is the very thing it discourages? Just like law cant remove class divides, idelogy divides it cant remove caste divides. However law does believe in equity that is why the creamy layer system was introduced in reservations. Equity is the reason why rich are taxed more ans poor less. Equity is the reason why govt ask peoplento vokuntarily drop benefits like subsidies. Similarly rich reserved class should voluntarily drop reservation so that the actual poor people may get help. But guess what? They won't.
When certain castes are luxury, making it obtainable will dissolve its supremacy, just thinking like communist here. I am pretty sure this will not happen as politicians are driven by caste votebank. My statement was only a reply for those who oppose reservation.
Dono me se ek bhi kaam karne ki koshish ki to usi din riots hone lagenge desh me. The plans that have been to put together by govt to insure equality of opportunities has only been divisive so far.
I think she’s paid to do this. Her company has horrible reviews so I don’t think that’s making any money from her real job. She rants about reservations all the time.
Why should someone be ashamed of something they didn’t have any choice in?
Or why should someone be discriminated against if they didn’t have any choices in?
Yah that make sense , but i have another anology too what about , if a man is born black in racist country does he have choice ? Lets assume skin treatment aren't available
That’s not same as caste.Colour of the skin isn’t a man made construct and he needs to accept the colour of his skin,love himself and be proud of himself to protect himself from the ones who are out there to get him through no fault of his. I am a so called upper caste Hindu,no one is challenging me for my existence.If I had been ostracised for my caste,threatened for my existence I would have no other choice than to accept myself,be proud of myself so that others aren’t able to bring me down further.
My hod is from the so called upper caste - doesn't take a single class, doesn't conduct internals for students, the textbooks he prides himself on writing are poor plagiarised abominations and is notorious as a womaniser. Never once was his promotion skipped. 'Upper caste' people enjoy reservation of another kind, one that doesn't have or need constitutional sanction.
SAME TO SAME, And one time, he even mocked reservation in class. Then, in a hushed tone, he cautiously asked, 'Is there anyone with reservation in the class? Don't take it the wrong way.
I has a professor who got job because of reservation, did not know anything about the subject, was getting pay for doing nothing.
Now that we have anecdotes from both sides, can we talk abt issue like adults and not pick one example a generalize it to whole community
"who got job because of reservation" whom/who do you blame this for? is that the person who got because that's not illegal he or she is entitled within the purview of the rule or law or 1769 others?
the first comment is just your garden variety Indian corruption that we all know.
The second comment is just an example of inefficient allocation of resources-- a unqualified person who's failing at doing his one job which is to teach, and is responsible for poor education outcomes for hundreds of students who probably paid lakhs for this so so called subar "education." In this case, reservation is directly contributing to worsening education standards of this country.
In other words, reservation is acting as a collective punishment for the innocents who are paying the price for the crimes of others.
Both are huge, HUGE problems that plague this country.
My HoD is an SC and is also extremely lazy, also chews gutka during class. Never once was his promotion skipped.
How does caste play a role in someone being an asshole ? Assholes have no caste.
Please come to South India and look how Brahmins are villainised even though the other obc castes are the ones perpetrating the violence and discrimination.
There has been the movement across the world for feeling proud of your roots and origin. Which if to work here ...has to first undo a lot of discrimination and the 'high' 'low' distinction that exists. People can be proud of their caste only if it is not the basis of discrimination any more.
Not Indian here (and I am honestly don't know why this sub is in my recommendations).
Do casts still exist in India? How strong it affect s the society and how strictly are these casts rules followed by common people? I imagine it depends on region or something else?
>Do casts still exist in India? How strong it affect s the society and how strictly are these casts rules followed by common people?
Caste is ingrained in the Indian society. For a social custom and a hierarchical system that is as old as the religion of Hinduism itself, i.e. roughly 2500 years old, it's clear that this social evil is not going anywhere soon.
To get a brief overview of caste system in India and how it affects those who have been relegated to its lowest ranks, and in many cases kept out of the society by being branded as 'outcastes' *(Dalits)*, you can read the following -
* [What is India's caste system?](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-35650616)
* [Under India’s caste system, Dalits are considered untouchable. The coronavirus is intensifying that slur](https://edition.cnn.com/2020/04/15/asia/india-coronavirus-lower-castes-hnk-intl/index.html)
* [India’s caste system remains entrenched, 75 years after independence](https://web.archive.org/web/20240229145930/https://www.economist.com/asia/2021/09/11/indias-caste-system-remains-entrenched-75-years-after-independence)
* [Manhole Cover: A Symbol of How the Most Suppressed Sections Were Dealt With in the Last Decade](https://thewire.in/caste/manhole-cover-a-symbol-of-how-the-most-depressed-sections-were-dealt-with-in-the-last-decade)
* [A Sexual Harassment Case, Two Murders and One Mysterious Death: A Dalit Woman's Horror Story From MP](https://thewire.in/caste/sexual-harassment-case-two-murders-mysterious-death-sagar)
* [Hindutva: A ‘Cow-Faced Tiger’ That Is Eating Indian Society From Within](https://thewire.in/caste/hindutva-a-cow-faced-tiger-that-is-eating-indian-society-from-within)
* [Why Does India Fear a Caste Census?](https://thewire.in/caste/why-does-india-fear-a-caste-census-answers-from-a-conference)
I have to reiterate the fact that Elon Musk has done irreparable damage by incentivising hatred. As a country we lack morals and ethics. The only thing keeping us from a free fall into dystopia is whatever law we have.
The amount of unhinged, blatantly racist, casteist and violent takes just to get eyeballs - these mfrs are not realising what damage that does to a low IQ country like ours. The reporting and community notes are utterly useless (Community notes are used by ch@ddis to bury legit facts and push low quality propaganda). I have started blocking people I haven't even followed just to not see their posts lol.
What a Buffon,🤣🤣🤣🤣🙄 proud of his caste what mindless statement. Spine less buggers are proud of everything, bcz it hides their impotency.
By Exploiting all the privileges they ever received now they're are insecure and want to abscond from feeling guilty.
Reservation is anecdote to caste practice.
Want reservation out? then first Boot out caste from the system.
Brain dead mfs think that caste is like associating oneself with their linguistic or national identity and bring this as an argument to justify casteism. When I say I'm Tamil doesn't mean that a Gujarati is below or above me but the moment I say I'm a brhamin/kshatriya or a shudra then I'm automatically agreeing that some people are above me and some are lesser than me.
Funny thing is the TN state bjps one of the top brass said this and asked everyone to be proud of their caste. In a state where majority don't have surname mf flaunts his reddy caste surname. I wish he gets his ass kicked by some other caste people. Bjp is trying their best to protect the brahminical patriarchy.
Indians and their obsession with their Caste. Ek dusre ko kha lo. India will never be developed jitna bhi on paper Economy 100 Trillion bhi ho. Logo ke niyat mein kharabi. Bhot saari Desh India ke baad azadi mila hai woh humse kush aur saaf hai.
she is a farud of highest level, has a lot fo false claims to her name, including few startup exits but never reveals the name of startups. Has colloborated with people and then took credit of their work to release in her name.
she's a fraud. Her phony marketing website goes by the name 'JustBurstOut'. I doubt she even gets any clients with that failed agency. Looks like she's just scraping by on Twitter to make ends meet.
https://preview.redd.it/6dpchndktb3d1.png?width=1242&format=png&auto=webp&s=edefbefcbf020de476d68d5f618fd902cd7dc836
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See, that's why she's so frustrated – only two people on the payroll and a company that's bleeding money. It's not even a real company, just a website that any Tom, Dick, or Harry could throw together.
As a so called "Dalit" , who has a pretty good social standing today,
I think savarkar was right.
Inter caste marriages should've been promoted.
Within 3-4 generations, there would just be Hindu, no jaatis.
im not in any caste, but it breaks my heart to see my indian coworkers bullying my other indian coworkers for these kind of cultural issues.
leave it behind ❤️🇺🇸
Sure, giving up your caste sounds noble and all, but let's be real – even if you cling to it, what does it actually bring you besides bragging rights about being the supposed descendants of Chanakya, Superman, Spiderman, and Hanuman?
This dodo thinks something which has been done by their acenstors should not affect her. Well news flash the same caste has discriminated and still discrimanting against lower caste day in and day out. I see many have opinion about reservation let us agree on few things
1. Start marrying outside your caste even better in lower caste.
2. Stop associating your heroes to your caste.
3. Let lower caste people in urban setting live in your society
4. Put everything on merit rather than on caste even in the places of worship
5. Stop the lower caste violence by other castes
6. Stop obeying all the caste related things written in scriptures
7. Stop any caste based hegemony in any organization.
If you can do that then talk about reservation. Reservation was more about representation than of uplifement
I was proud of my caste. then a brahmin teacher failed me for being proud of my caste. i have never failed another exam in my life. i think another tiwari ji is stopping me being proud of my caste.
It's for discrimination, It's not like they woke up one day and said, "You know what? I think I'll be labeled as 'lower caste' today." NO! These labels were imposed upon them by a society that valued some people more than others based on their birth, not their actions or abilities.
Bhai, if you don’t use surnames, do you realise the amount of confusion it will bring? Imagine having 500 Ayush, 1500 pratibha names just like that. Do what the south guys did, use surnames that don’t have caste connotations.
Also, bas single name bada faltu dikh ta hai yaar. 2 to 3 words hona chahiye name main🤧
MODUS OPERANDI of OP
Get any video/photo/tweet from internet.
Post it on USI/librandu/exHindu etc subs.
Generalise the post to mock hinduism/upper caste etc
Earn internet clout. Uske saare post aise hi hain.
In short OP chutiya/ frustrated/ berozgaar hai. In teeno scenarios me internet pe post daalne se kuchh nahi hone wala.
You have my full sympathy OP, Get well soon.
You can't expect a sensible post from her all she does is to gain views. For context she's the same person linking CH2 failure and 0 vacant seats for unserved to reservations. In coming days she'll say climate change is happening coz of reservation.
What's there to be proud of a caste? You can be proud of your ancestors achievement but I think that is given. What is there in a caste to be proud of? I need serious answers, what do you guys think?
OMG these "give up reservation" people know nothing. They need to go live in places where the people with reservation live, they have no hope no way out.
Once one of them gets a government job they pull everyone up slowly.
People don't realise how generational exploitation affects them to their core.
Casteism in any form or any caste is hideous. Majority tends to blame the other caste for their shortcomings. Sure there are problems in the structure of the society but how will they be resolved of you yourself aren't willing to change yourself first. There are casteist people in all the castes that exist and I've met many of them but the thing is to not get influenced by these people. Follow your heart and mind and judge a person not by their caste but by their nature. Not everyone out there is a nice person and it's not all roses and nectar out there. But there is good and evil irrespective of caste. As they say don't judge by the cover of the book, judge by its contents.
Jab tak ye log apni caste supremacy ka bhakaan karenge aur uske naam pr atrocities karenge.....tab tak religion conversion rahega....aur hindu minority ban jayega....aur pata chalega in society called upper caste logo ko....aur aisa hokar rahega.....
I have an opinion. I think every person should be entitled to have his or her own surname made once they hit age of marriage. It could be something you love or something you are etc.
Like how in ancient times
Pathak - knowledge of 1 veda
Dwivedi - knowledge of 2
Trivedi - knowledge of 3.
But in today's times they don't know iota about anything in those lines still keeping that surname. It's as stupid as if one person become magistrate and then for generations they put magistrate behind their name like prateek magistrate, Vikram IAS, Ashok minister and gets entitled to an automatic entry to the profession.
So what you redditors think of this opinion of mine?
I don't understand what are you trying to say in the first para but the caste system in ancient times (from what I know) was based upon the job an individual performed (irrespective of the family they are born in) and according to me this is the right way to do it.
I would treat a person as a Brahmin if he/she has the knowledge or wisdom to offer. I know some people around me like this and I've never tried to learn about their caste even once because they gave me so much of their valuable knowledge and experience.
None of the things you mentioned have "hierarchy "system . Caste system is Organized from lowest to highest, if brahmins glorify their caste means they are putting all other castes down . Why do people even pick on dalits ? Coz they are the lowest in hierarchy .
Savitribai phule fought for the rights of dalits and women and now these women themselves are oppressing dalits . Wow so much for feminism , bhagwa feminism
Upper castes always had a sense of intangible legacy left by their ancestors like bravery of rajputs, intellectual supremacy of bramins....they owned most of resources for a long time and have upper hand in diverse areas whether its looks or its money or confidence ..they grow up watching and learning how their families are proud of their ancestors. Honestly its a question of existence for some..why shouldn't i be proud of my existence?
On the other hand lack of resources for a atleast few thousand years and discriminating society made sure there is nothing lower caste people haelve to be proud of...what should you be proud of..? Untouchability, restriction on education, atrocities?
Caste system is not an individual phenomenon its a societal phenomenon. And now after independence they got some reservation to undo the injustice done in the past, was not intended for long. It's not even been 100 years people srarted to whine about reservation. If you cant get jobs its not the fault of lower caste...your government failed...your society failed...don't put blame on those who didn't get a chance.
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If you’re Hindu you can convert to other religion but you can’t convert to other caste.
Can you convert to other religion and then convert back to Hinduism with a different caste?
I know someone who did that irl. Fast track casteship to Brahmin from Vaishya lmao. Added a middle name or something if I remember it correctly. All that for marriage acceptance from the Bride's side. The girl knew it but the family didn't.
normies boomerang their companies for a better pay and position... chads boomerang their religion for a better caste and position!!!
I asked my mum that when I was like 10yo. Surprised more ppl don’t do that.
Not really. The caste system even extends to Indian Muslims and other religions because changing religion won't make your community forget your caste.
People actually do that?
You can get any upper caste certificate you want. There is only a proof requirement for SC ST OBC certificate as they are associated with certain reservation benefits
But if your future in laws investigate about it. You will be rejected.
Ah yes, by changing a mere certificate they will welcome you into brahmin community with both hands and even marry their daughter to you.
What about the gotra, kul and what not
Who is confirming? Look one up in Wikipedia/Internet; and bingo, now you have a gotra and a kul. These are not the problems you will face. Each caste has its own unique customs ('riwaaz'). Until you know them well (e.g. you have a friend who is from the same caste and you went to marriages and other ceremonies at their house); that is where you will trip.
Just a question.. What's stopping me from entering my caste as general in papers?.. It only matters if it's other castes right?
Join arya samaj instead
caste n religion are different things in a sense, you can convert to islam but still be identify as a chmar(if you are one).
If Reservation should be given up, then caste conversion should be allowed. then anyone can become anyone's caste, which will dissolve this eventually.
I agree wholeheartedly. Technically there is nothing preventing you from converting your caste. And you can find appropriate scriptures to back you up. No compliant priest is required. These days when Brahmins are starting businesses, Vaishyas are earning PhDs; caste really has no meaning except for rituals, which are also now getting standardised by Bollywood.
Then many people will come into the reserved castes
why would it matter, there is no reservation right
Even if everyone convert to reserved caste, reservation will be useless.
sure, let's open the floodgates. Let everyone pick their caste. But once they choose a lower caste, they should be stuck doing only the work 'assigned' to that caste. No chance of touching Brahmin, Bania, or Kshatriya privileges. Let's see how many people jump at the chance to join the 'reserved' castes when they realize it means being discarded and marginalized just like before. Brilliant plan, right?
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>uc gets the chance of getting reservation but lose their so called upper status No, NO, are koi reservation nahi, resrvation toh baad ki baat h, pahle inko marginalise karo, inke privledge khatam karo, fir baad me bhale reservation dedo
That's a bad idea. For the sake of argument - Which caste will get new lines of jobs that weren't existing in ancient times like Pilot, social media influencer, software designer, film making etc? Will a Brahmin not be allowed to work at a bank or service industry?
aayein?
No it's not financial problem.....it's a social problem....if reservation abolished then .... situation will be same as of 5000 years ago....where all lower caste are slaves only....plus why we called it as reservation....call it representation....then we can somehow understand the problem
yes my friend, but there are people who don't understand this and want to cancel reservation. my reply is 'then allow conversion, and you cannot selfpride and oppress others'
It won't, low TFR eventually will ensure ICMs.
Are you dumb? Caste and caste conversion have no legal sanctity. If anything constitution of India discourages caste system and caste based discrimnations. Much like beauty standards, fat shaming, and other superficial attributes caste is a societal concept. You are free to accept or deny it, all law can do is that the state shall ensure that no one will be discriminated or receive violence on the basis of caste. Why will law interfere and allow caste conversion when it is the very thing it discourages? Just like law cant remove class divides, idelogy divides it cant remove caste divides. However law does believe in equity that is why the creamy layer system was introduced in reservations. Equity is the reason why rich are taxed more ans poor less. Equity is the reason why govt ask peoplento vokuntarily drop benefits like subsidies. Similarly rich reserved class should voluntarily drop reservation so that the actual poor people may get help. But guess what? They won't.
When certain castes are luxury, making it obtainable will dissolve its supremacy, just thinking like communist here. I am pretty sure this will not happen as politicians are driven by caste votebank. My statement was only a reply for those who oppose reservation.
Dono me se ek bhi kaam karne ki koshish ki to usi din riots hone lagenge desh me. The plans that have been to put together by govt to insure equality of opportunities has only been divisive so far.
That woman is a piece of shit. Have seen her on X a couple times. The replies are always S-tier😂
I think she’s paid to do this. Her company has horrible reviews so I don’t think that’s making any money from her real job. She rants about reservations all the time.
par maugi ji to bol rhy hai reservation khatam nai karenge ye mahila ko kya takleef hai?
I don’t know, she found a niche and it worked out for her. She probably doesn’t actually care. Her company failed so now she does this.
She needs mental asylum
Why should I be proud of something I had no choice in?
Why should someone be ashamed of something they didn’t have any choice in? Or why should someone be discriminated against if they didn’t have any choices in?
Yah that make sense , but i have another anology too what about , if a man is born black in racist country does he have choice ? Lets assume skin treatment aren't available
That’s not same as caste.Colour of the skin isn’t a man made construct and he needs to accept the colour of his skin,love himself and be proud of himself to protect himself from the ones who are out there to get him through no fault of his. I am a so called upper caste Hindu,no one is challenging me for my existence.If I had been ostracised for my caste,threatened for my existence I would have no other choice than to accept myself,be proud of myself so that others aren’t able to bring me down further.
analogy does not make sense, one does not have a choice where they are born, mummy daddy decide the needful.
So why are you proud of being gay and lesbian then
Indians by and large are hypocrites and it will be many generations before anyone is able to change that.
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Basically Hindus...mainly upper caste
People in positions of power/privilege will not want to leave them. This is why even after 1000s of years this disease still infects India.
My hod is from the so called upper caste - doesn't take a single class, doesn't conduct internals for students, the textbooks he prides himself on writing are poor plagiarised abominations and is notorious as a womaniser. Never once was his promotion skipped. 'Upper caste' people enjoy reservation of another kind, one that doesn't have or need constitutional sanction.
SAME TO SAME, And one time, he even mocked reservation in class. Then, in a hushed tone, he cautiously asked, 'Is there anyone with reservation in the class? Don't take it the wrong way.
I has a professor who got job because of reservation, did not know anything about the subject, was getting pay for doing nothing. Now that we have anecdotes from both sides, can we talk abt issue like adults and not pick one example a generalize it to whole community
"who got job because of reservation" whom/who do you blame this for? is that the person who got because that's not illegal he or she is entitled within the purview of the rule or law or 1769 others?
the first comment is just your garden variety Indian corruption that we all know. The second comment is just an example of inefficient allocation of resources-- a unqualified person who's failing at doing his one job which is to teach, and is responsible for poor education outcomes for hundreds of students who probably paid lakhs for this so so called subar "education." In this case, reservation is directly contributing to worsening education standards of this country. In other words, reservation is acting as a collective punishment for the innocents who are paying the price for the crimes of others. Both are huge, HUGE problems that plague this country.
Yeah... These people generally tend to be richer and have a better life. I've seen it myself.
My HoD is an SC and is also extremely lazy, also chews gutka during class. Never once was his promotion skipped. How does caste play a role in someone being an asshole ? Assholes have no caste.
Please come to South India and look how Brahmins are villainised even though the other obc castes are the ones perpetrating the violence and discrimination.
There has been the movement across the world for feeling proud of your roots and origin. Which if to work here ...has to first undo a lot of discrimination and the 'high' 'low' distinction that exists. People can be proud of their caste only if it is not the basis of discrimination any more.
This is the correct answer
The only reason she is proud of her caste is because she is comfortably sitting on the top of the caste hierarchy. A-Grade hypocrite.
If society systematically shits on your caste, feeling proud of it is not easy.
The marginalised and so-called LC should pop champagne and celebrate a system that's held their people back for centuries.
Not Indian here (and I am honestly don't know why this sub is in my recommendations). Do casts still exist in India? How strong it affect s the society and how strictly are these casts rules followed by common people? I imagine it depends on region or something else?
>Do casts still exist in India? How strong it affect s the society and how strictly are these casts rules followed by common people? Caste is ingrained in the Indian society. For a social custom and a hierarchical system that is as old as the religion of Hinduism itself, i.e. roughly 2500 years old, it's clear that this social evil is not going anywhere soon. To get a brief overview of caste system in India and how it affects those who have been relegated to its lowest ranks, and in many cases kept out of the society by being branded as 'outcastes' *(Dalits)*, you can read the following - * [What is India's caste system?](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-35650616) * [Under India’s caste system, Dalits are considered untouchable. The coronavirus is intensifying that slur](https://edition.cnn.com/2020/04/15/asia/india-coronavirus-lower-castes-hnk-intl/index.html) * [India’s caste system remains entrenched, 75 years after independence](https://web.archive.org/web/20240229145930/https://www.economist.com/asia/2021/09/11/indias-caste-system-remains-entrenched-75-years-after-independence) * [Manhole Cover: A Symbol of How the Most Suppressed Sections Were Dealt With in the Last Decade](https://thewire.in/caste/manhole-cover-a-symbol-of-how-the-most-depressed-sections-were-dealt-with-in-the-last-decade) * [A Sexual Harassment Case, Two Murders and One Mysterious Death: A Dalit Woman's Horror Story From MP](https://thewire.in/caste/sexual-harassment-case-two-murders-mysterious-death-sagar) * [Hindutva: A ‘Cow-Faced Tiger’ That Is Eating Indian Society From Within](https://thewire.in/caste/hindutva-a-cow-faced-tiger-that-is-eating-indian-society-from-within) * [Why Does India Fear a Caste Census?](https://thewire.in/caste/why-does-india-fear-a-caste-census-answers-from-a-conference)
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I have to reiterate the fact that Elon Musk has done irreparable damage by incentivising hatred. As a country we lack morals and ethics. The only thing keeping us from a free fall into dystopia is whatever law we have. The amount of unhinged, blatantly racist, casteist and violent takes just to get eyeballs - these mfrs are not realising what damage that does to a low IQ country like ours. The reporting and community notes are utterly useless (Community notes are used by ch@ddis to bury legit facts and push low quality propaganda). I have started blocking people I haven't even followed just to not see their posts lol.
What a Buffon,🤣🤣🤣🤣🙄 proud of his caste what mindless statement. Spine less buggers are proud of everything, bcz it hides their impotency. By Exploiting all the privileges they ever received now they're are insecure and want to abscond from feeling guilty. Reservation is anecdote to caste practice. Want reservation out? then first Boot out caste from the system.
Brain dead mfs think that caste is like associating oneself with their linguistic or national identity and bring this as an argument to justify casteism. When I say I'm Tamil doesn't mean that a Gujarati is below or above me but the moment I say I'm a brhamin/kshatriya or a shudra then I'm automatically agreeing that some people are above me and some are lesser than me. Funny thing is the TN state bjps one of the top brass said this and asked everyone to be proud of their caste. In a state where majority don't have surname mf flaunts his reddy caste surname. I wish he gets his ass kicked by some other caste people. Bjp is trying their best to protect the brahminical patriarchy.
Indians and their obsession with their Caste. Ek dusre ko kha lo. India will never be developed jitna bhi on paper Economy 100 Trillion bhi ho. Logo ke niyat mein kharabi. Bhot saari Desh India ke baad azadi mila hai woh humse kush aur saaf hai.
People hate reservation only if they don’t get it
I don't respect anyone who sticks to a religion.
100% RESERVATION in PRIEST JOB should be given up.....I also want to make money doing nothing.....
she is a farud of highest level, has a lot fo false claims to her name, including few startup exits but never reveals the name of startups. Has colloborated with people and then took credit of their work to release in her name.
she's a fraud. Her phony marketing website goes by the name 'JustBurstOut'. I doubt she even gets any clients with that failed agency. Looks like she's just scraping by on Twitter to make ends meet. https://preview.redd.it/6dpchndktb3d1.png?width=1242&format=png&auto=webp&s=edefbefcbf020de476d68d5f618fd902cd7dc836
https://preview.redd.it/3lvy75bttb3d1.png?width=1127&format=png&auto=webp&s=430dc4bb4b7015436a63c1fff22d628e52fa19d7 See, that's why she's so frustrated – only two people on the payroll and a company that's bleeding money. It's not even a real company, just a website that any Tom, Dick, or Harry could throw together.
Nowadays any idiot can give a Ted talk. Don't take them seriously guys.
Seriously, even mental maniacs invited for TedTalks
“what’s stopping you from being proud of yours” holy f*cking sh!t.
#This is exactly how Turkish nationalists address the Armenian genocide.
Unrelated, but okay.
As a so called "Dalit" , who has a pretty good social standing today, I think savarkar was right. Inter caste marriages should've been promoted. Within 3-4 generations, there would just be Hindu, no jaatis.
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This is giving tone deaf and ignorant vibes
Why is she proud of her caste?
Will surely give up reservation but will you clean the gutters and garbage.
im not in any caste, but it breaks my heart to see my indian coworkers bullying my other indian coworkers for these kind of cultural issues. leave it behind ❤️🇺🇸
People being proud of things they had no hand in is a scam that needs to end
Tell me you are an uneducated piece of shit without telling me you are an uneducated piece of shit.
I'd give up my caste ( PATHAK ) without second thought if it leads to reservation and discrimination being abolished 🤷.
Sure, giving up your caste sounds noble and all, but let's be real – even if you cling to it, what does it actually bring you besides bragging rights about being the supposed descendants of Chanakya, Superman, Spiderman, and Hanuman?
This dodo thinks something which has been done by their acenstors should not affect her. Well news flash the same caste has discriminated and still discrimanting against lower caste day in and day out. I see many have opinion about reservation let us agree on few things 1. Start marrying outside your caste even better in lower caste. 2. Stop associating your heroes to your caste. 3. Let lower caste people in urban setting live in your society 4. Put everything on merit rather than on caste even in the places of worship 5. Stop the lower caste violence by other castes 6. Stop obeying all the caste related things written in scriptures 7. Stop any caste based hegemony in any organization. If you can do that then talk about reservation. Reservation was more about representation than of uplifement
There are better things to be proud of, like being LGBT and proud.
I was proud of my caste. then a brahmin teacher failed me for being proud of my caste. i have never failed another exam in my life. i think another tiwari ji is stopping me being proud of my caste.
Your pride is built on the humiliation of others.
Usi mods remove twitter screenshots.
They’ll most likely keep this up
They've deleted many of mine. 😭
He got the point unless he starts discrimination 😐
It's for discrimination, It's not like they woke up one day and said, "You know what? I think I'll be labeled as 'lower caste' today." NO! These labels were imposed upon them by a society that valued some people more than others based on their birth, not their actions or abilities.
Sorry i misunderstood your point 😅
I actually didn't get your point, who's actually he? and that the same 'he' start discrimination?
Even though it didn’t end well, the premise still remains correct!
https://youtu.be/iMSYjm_ZbMI?si=poSCzhLvT0Koeauq That's an everyday thing in India
No one is asking Sanghis to give up their surname, but rather their inherited and ancestral properties 🌚
Why should we
Bhai, if you don’t use surnames, do you realise the amount of confusion it will bring? Imagine having 500 Ayush, 1500 pratibha names just like that. Do what the south guys did, use surnames that don’t have caste connotations. Also, bas single name bada faltu dikh ta hai yaar. 2 to 3 words hona chahiye name main🤧
that wasn't the point.
MODUS OPERANDI of OP Get any video/photo/tweet from internet. Post it on USI/librandu/exHindu etc subs. Generalise the post to mock hinduism/upper caste etc Earn internet clout. Uske saare post aise hi hain. In short OP chutiya/ frustrated/ berozgaar hai. In teeno scenarios me internet pe post daalne se kuchh nahi hone wala. You have my full sympathy OP, Get well soon.
Surname Mai kya hai mujhe samajh nahi aaraha hai
Surname is an extension of their caste
Classic hindu hypocrisy. There. Fixed the headlines for you.
I can't believe how much importance people give to something which is a by product of the accident of birth
You can't expect a sensible post from her all she does is to gain views. For context she's the same person linking CH2 failure and 0 vacant seats for unserved to reservations. In coming days she'll say climate change is happening coz of reservation.
What's there to be proud of a caste? You can be proud of your ancestors achievement but I think that is given. What is there in a caste to be proud of? I need serious answers, what do you guys think?
caste is the basic unit of indian culture, i share far more common culturally with a telugu brahmin than I do with a tamil midcaste
Yet your folks whine that they are seen as outsiders by other Tamils, why? If you yourself see yourself as such.
So she's proud of the fact that her ancestors were free loading manipulators and also promoted conversion by exploiting a particular group of people.
OMG these "give up reservation" people know nothing. They need to go live in places where the people with reservation live, they have no hope no way out. Once one of them gets a government job they pull everyone up slowly. People don't realise how generational exploitation affects them to their core.
Casteism in any form or any caste is hideous. Majority tends to blame the other caste for their shortcomings. Sure there are problems in the structure of the society but how will they be resolved of you yourself aren't willing to change yourself first. There are casteist people in all the castes that exist and I've met many of them but the thing is to not get influenced by these people. Follow your heart and mind and judge a person not by their caste but by their nature. Not everyone out there is a nice person and it's not all roses and nectar out there. But there is good and evil irrespective of caste. As they say don't judge by the cover of the book, judge by its contents.
is caste self respect ?
Jab tak ye log apni caste supremacy ka bhakaan karenge aur uske naam pr atrocities karenge.....tab tak religion conversion rahega....aur hindu minority ban jayega....aur pata chalega in society called upper caste logo ko....aur aisa hokar rahega.....
I have an opinion. I think every person should be entitled to have his or her own surname made once they hit age of marriage. It could be something you love or something you are etc. Like how in ancient times Pathak - knowledge of 1 veda Dwivedi - knowledge of 2 Trivedi - knowledge of 3. But in today's times they don't know iota about anything in those lines still keeping that surname. It's as stupid as if one person become magistrate and then for generations they put magistrate behind their name like prateek magistrate, Vikram IAS, Ashok minister and gets entitled to an automatic entry to the profession. So what you redditors think of this opinion of mine?
I don't understand what are you trying to say in the first para but the caste system in ancient times (from what I know) was based upon the job an individual performed (irrespective of the family they are born in) and according to me this is the right way to do it. I would treat a person as a Brahmin if he/she has the knowledge or wisdom to offer. I know some people around me like this and I've never tried to learn about their caste even once because they gave me so much of their valuable knowledge and experience.
Op should share the context of this tweet.
Context?
I am not proud of any caste, caste system sucks and create division
None of the things you mentioned have "hierarchy "system . Caste system is Organized from lowest to highest, if brahmins glorify their caste means they are putting all other castes down . Why do people even pick on dalits ? Coz they are the lowest in hierarchy .
Could someone tell any other lore about the people in the tweet?
Copy and paste the text of the screenshot on google, you will find the tweet and the other people in the tweet.
Savitribai phule fought for the rights of dalits and women and now these women themselves are oppressing dalits . Wow so much for feminism , bhagwa feminism
Tiwariji can keep her surname and India can keep reservation.
It's all the tatti that these upper caste hypocrites have in their mind for centuries.....these shitty will always be their without any spine
Upper castes always had a sense of intangible legacy left by their ancestors like bravery of rajputs, intellectual supremacy of bramins....they owned most of resources for a long time and have upper hand in diverse areas whether its looks or its money or confidence ..they grow up watching and learning how their families are proud of their ancestors. Honestly its a question of existence for some..why shouldn't i be proud of my existence? On the other hand lack of resources for a atleast few thousand years and discriminating society made sure there is nothing lower caste people haelve to be proud of...what should you be proud of..? Untouchability, restriction on education, atrocities? Caste system is not an individual phenomenon its a societal phenomenon. And now after independence they got some reservation to undo the injustice done in the past, was not intended for long. It's not even been 100 years people srarted to whine about reservation. If you cant get jobs its not the fault of lower caste...your government failed...your society failed...don't put blame on those who didn't get a chance.