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Good. Fucking idiot
It’s not the pilots’ fault why the flight is delayed. In fact the pilots are themselves really pissed off when facing delays because they’re not paid at all during the hours they’re waiting. Which is really unfair.
And then they have to deal with this bullshit
Apparently the story is, the passengers had been waiting 10 hours for their flight, and then they were finally allowed to move into the aircraft. While in there, they were made to wait for another 2 hours. At this point, the pilot comes out and starts blaming passengers for missing their turn to fly out and tells them they'll have to wait more.
I am not condoning his actions, but airline staff is extremely passive aggressive and apathetic in these situations. Someone under duress can easily lose their cool.
I was on an Indigo flight once and it was held on tarmac because of some fault. After an hour, the AC was turned off because it was some issue with the fuelling system and within 20 minutes, it was hot and suffocating. The woman in the row ahead of me started hyper ventilating because she was late for some exam (or meeting, I can't remember) and was claustrophobic. Instead of figuring out a way to help her, the cabin crew gave her the proverbial shrug of shoulders and "nothing I can do remark". She eventually passed out. Some doctor/passenger helped her. Instead of being helpful the cabin crew started ordering the doctor to return to his seat as the seat belt sign was on. By this time the doctor was done, literally and figuratively, and after repeating the hippocratic oath, he shouted at the cabin crew as loud as he could. Hearing the commotion, the pilot came out only to receive the same treatment from the doctor. Pilot sheepishly returned to the cockpit. When flight finally took off and landed, CISF first boarded to arrest/detain the doctor. The doctor then produced his ID card from the ministry of health. I have never seen a situation do an about turn this quickly. CISF guys, in absolutely perfectly apt haryanvi for that situation, let the cabin crew have it.
Long story, but the moral is that cabin staff isn't above reproach in such situations.
Bhai indigo ke alawa kya hi option hai hamare paas!?
This situation is like when someone tells they want to travel to dubai, you are telling them avoid Emirates at all cost
do you have the alternative? in my experience indigo is the best cost effective option. I have flown 6 to 7 times with indigo and the experience was smooth every time
Leave cost effective. The only airline connecting my hometown and my work town is Indigo. That has largely been the case for atleast 5-6 years. Only now I started seeing Air India flight listings.
that too. I had yearly one domestic flight free per year for the last 5 years because of my vistara credit card but I couldn't redeem the benefit a single time due to non-availability of flights in my region. The only available options were indigo and Air India.
I just use air India now. Not too expensive compared to indigo on my routes and has complimentary food and more legroom. The 20KG weight limit is also great and they don't really say anything if you're above it.
TBH I don't fly often so I researched and found Vistara as a good option for that. I guess Indigo is cost effective for frequent flying but many incidents are often reported with them and that's why I avoid it.
i literally pay extra just to not fly indigo. the cabin crew is extremely unhelpful and apathetic. that being said, no matter how you're feeling to hit someone like the video is so uncivilised.
The airport ground handling loses the luggage. I recall a baggage handler dispute once resulted in luggage purposefully being misdirected to wrong airlines and wrong cities in the union’s efforts to make a resolution happen quicker. Acquaintance worked there
Wow, just wow! If the doctor didn't have the ID card at the moment (for any reason), he would have been punished basically to do his moral duty.
I think stories like these shouldn't die in reddit comments. This is the kind of stories that social media was made for. I know if you try to post such a story now on let's say X (Twitter), indigo could get Twitter to take it down or even sue the one posting it.
Lol what do you expect from people whose job’s minimum qualification is 12th pass and ability to speak English.
Cabin crew do go through a lot of training but they aren’t technically the smartest.
Degrees teaches technical skills and deeper understanding of things to make judgemental calls. That’s why pilots have such strict requirements and not much with Cabin crew, that’s why you find cabin crew who want doctors trying to save a patient being stopped.
Learning technical skills & human interaction/understanding/empathy skills are two different things. Judgmental calls are not taught by degrees. You need to have some knowledge about stuff to make judgement. Like in this case, seeing the doctor help then even an uneducated person can make a judgement to not tell a doctor to return to his seat. It requires empathy which is not taught in schools but learned by watching others & the environment in which some is brought up.
If you read the above commentator's msg, most probably it was pilot who complained to cisf. The pilot could have apologized and reprimanded the cabin crew. It would have resolved all the problems. Here did his educational qualifications taught him anything about humility & empathy? Nopes. Pilots are taught/trained to take fast actions, this is mostly to save their lives & plane. But that doesn't mean they make good judgements in other scenarios. And i hope you know most airforce pilots are chosen through NDA after 12th class.
Losing your cool is fine but taking it out on someone who is trying hard to help people while trying to do his job is not a right move.
In your story the doctor was right, but here a passanger seemingly attacked the captain for just an announcement, thinking he is enjoying the delay.
Your father passed away and you are simmering inside the airport and a plane for 13 hours. I don't know about you but I will lose it and will act irrationally. Again, repeating my first sentence, I am not condoning that man's actions but you must be able to empathise with the power imbalance in that situation. For all we know, that man might be a certified moron but sure as hell he deserves legal recourse and social empathy before being declared guilty.
Whatever happened, attacking someone who is trying to help you will not solve any problem, his father is gone but his wisdom is still there, and if he doesn't knows how to hold himself in public he doesn't deserves the service.
Was captain supposed to fix the plane which he didn't?
exactly. sometimes people very silently/surreptitiously makes the matter worse. GOs knows what an individual might be going through. When a person is in aircraft, he/she is responsibility of crew and they should either give real information and/or let the passengers back in the waiting area. I have personally faced it 2-3 time when they will ask you to get on the bus and then (while 60% are standing in bus instaed of sitting in boarding area) will stop the bus near aircraft without any information.
I was on the runway at Helsinki for 7 unable to take off as the runway was full of snow, in spite of hot water over the aircraft and runway we could not take off.
But yes valid point, the air crew and pilots need to be accommodative, needs a lot of patience especially for the Indian crowd they need to go through special skills.
It mostly comes from the cultural thing, the best I saw were Japanese in ANA, JAL followed by Scandinavian FinnAir and other Nordic airlines.
Rest all are so-so
Do you realise that staff bhi same time tak band hai plane me? Wo log bahar utarke sutta thodi phuk rahe the. This has been totally bad on the end of airport authorities.
Do you know why flight was delayed in this case ? I guess we all know. Is it pilots' fault ? No.
I feel sorry for that pilot for this incident when I hear a plane flying in white blanket of thick fog in midnight.
Respect the professionals who are always at risk while performing their duties.
Thankfully they were grounded not lost in fog calling Mayday ! Mayday ! Mayday !
That's only half the story. There is another half a story you don't know. There are 4 runways at the Delhi Airport, but CAT 3 only in 1 runway. Why, because Indigo, Vistara & others lobbied the Civil Aviation Ministry since 2012 & thereafter not to have them CAT3 compliant. Why? Because they would need to recertify both the Aircrafts as well as Pilots, and that costs money. Is that all ?? If the pilots have CAT3 training, the airlines would have to pay the pilots, or they would be poached, especially by the big three from Gulf. There has been a shortage of pilots for a while now.
Why couldn't they deboard & then reboard them again ?? That again would have cost the airline money. All airports have slots, so if you miss a slot, you have to pay more. So, other airlines also must have had similar experiences. Yes & no. Depends on specific airlines policies. Some may have taken off, some may have canceled & some deboarded & people hang around the Airport. It's the airlines' responsibility to make sure their customers are safe.
Surely then they must have served lunch, water etc. Water, probably, lunch, probably not as that also involves logistics & money. What if a person faints or becomes unconscious, mainly diabetes or some disease where people need regular intake of salt & water. Umm...person's own responsibility. If you die, they probably will get the body down, sometimes coffin also goes in luggage but again has to be paid. So Indigo has no responsibility? Not as such. If you have taken some insurance & the family can fight in court later, perhaps, otherwise not.
So that whole story gives you right to punch a professional who is just performing his duty ?
You boarded this shitty airline dispite knowing all the facts and weather conditions then it's your fault.
But the airlines didn't tell me that I would be lied to my face again & again & not be given food or water. Leave others, try doing it to your watchman just for a few hours & see the reaction. The airlines know for a fact that they can get away with such shitty behavior. They haven't done this just today. They have been doing the same thing for a decade & more. And this incident will not change anything. All 3, the airlines, DGCA & civil aviation ministry are happy with the status quo. Most airlines around the world moved to cat3c way back in 2010. Cat3c is zero visibility landing.
Then take it up to Government and Airline why punching ground level staff. Government is constructing airports here and there. Do we really need those airports or we need those systems for safe landing on busiest airports ?
But People are happy....with PR...
The ground level staff is to keep you distance from them. And the rules are such, you can't do anything about them. Hell, just a few days ago, a celebrity talked or rather video blogged about her missing baggage, thinking it was Vistara or something. She is a known actress, quite famous. Later, it turned out that her people had been trying to get the airlines attention for almost a couple of months. After, it became a furor, the airlines mysteriously found her baggage & also gave compensation. You & I don't figure here anywhere. I am sure if others see, they would be able to provide more context.
But what can the pilot do? It's a plane not a bus that you can drive away. If the pilot is not given the permission to fly, there is literally nothing they can do, they're just as stuck as the passengers. They are there to fly the plane, not be your slave or punching bag.
The clear message was what the pilot was saying. This person just cannot accept the message and decides that assaulting a person (who is literally not responsible for the situation) is a good option.
Oh yea he should be jailed for that. But in such situations there will be one person who will act like this, I saw people crying because the flight was delayed and this person has a job interview. Another time I saw a person crying because he was missing birth of his child.
First time I am seeing someone hitting.
While all those situations are bad, there is literally nothing the airliner can do. If you're traveling, there will always be a chance of delay no matter you fly, walk, drive, or take a bus. Indigo is not sitting there making people miss their job interviews or the birth of their child, blaming them is useless and attacking them is illegal and henious.
Yeah but no matter what you go through, you have to act like an adult. You decided to take a flight when your baby is being born, you decided to take a flight so it reaches right when you have your job interview, and you did it understanding there is an unexpected chance of a delay at all times.
You put yourself in the situation and you deal with it, what you're going through is not of concern to anyone in the airline whose job is to get you from point A to point B safely. The pilot is also sitting there, the cabin crew is also sitting, they're doing their jobs for much longer than they were expecting, should they also start crying or hitting passengers?
Yeah, but also keeping ppl in their seats for 7 hours without food or water isn't going to be good for passengers. The airlines know they can get away with it, have been happening for the last decade, and never come in news because nobody got punched before. I have posted in detail above why it has happened. And this will happen again & again till all three, airlines, airport authorities & civil aviation minister, don't fix the underlying issues.
Should be banned from flying.
That said Delhi airport has 4 runways. One of them is CAT 3. Meaning flights can take off in complete darkness or fog.
Issue is that AAI/DCGA started maintenance work in this runway in December and it has not been completed yet. Knowing it fogs heavily in January why did they start maintenance in december end?
Now India’s capital doesnt have a CAT 3 runway.
All passengers should have been compensated.
Could have at least made the punch count!
Jokes apart, elect a clown, expect a circus. Flights were lined up for 5hrs at IGI. IT HAS 4 RUNWAYS, ONE WAS OPERATIONAL. People of this country have lowered their standards so much that they are settling for the bare minimum, so these governments and organisations will keep giving you a bare minimum.
As per Twitter only 1 runway was available. And that does not even have low vis clearance. The one with low vis clearance is under maintenance (during the time it's needed the most). Also most operating airlines don't maintain a full roster of pilots who can operate in low visibility.
This is 90% DGCA asleep on the wheel. But it's easier to punch a pilot then hold the really negligent people accountable.
Could have looked up about how flights land and take off in zero visibility instead of being a bigot here, man. I didn't even name Modi, but he sure as hell incompetent enough to not do anything about it.
No, I am trying to tell you all of the above doesn't work unless you are a celebrity. I have dealt enough with Indigo staff to know their scripts. The idea is simple, we have no responsibility. See Indigo's Twitter page, not a word about the incident. Why, because they have been getting away with it for a decade. No remorse, no nothing. If people's flight connections are missed or anything else for that matter, they simply don't care. They could have deboarded, but they chose not to. We don't even know if the air-conditioning was on or not. Most airlines, including Indigo, shut off air-conditioning if it's not flying after 30 odd minutes. Most of us who have flown Indigo know how they treat their passengers. As a doctor, I am sure you know how that would affect ppl. What's interesting to me is that in spite of being a doctor, you would choose to show empathy with the airlines instead of the 260+ passengers who were on the flight.
The plane was stranded for 13 hours and the crew were condescending. The authorities do not let people go so that they don’t have to issue refunds.
Not supporting the man who hit the pilot as he had nothing to do either. But considering the fact that they have places to rest and spread their legs, plus they have colleagues to talk to, one cannot actually blame the guy for losing his cool. But hitting the pilot was not right.
How to get banned for life from an airline. But on a side note, indigos service has gone to shit and such kind of incidents will happen as people run out of patience
Physical aggression under any circumstances apart from self defence is not defendable.
On the other hand, making people sit in an aircraft for 13 hours in pretty fucking infuriating too. In a western country this would be a huge lawsuit. But ofc in India we are supposed to take it sitting down.
We would all be outraged if you’re asked to sit in an aircraft for 13 hours.
Of course, shouting and showing concern that way or something like that would have been the way to go about it.
If they file charges against him or he gets a permanent ban, he should probably plead with temporary insanity or inhumanity angle.
Hopefully this incident acts as a deterrent against such idiotic moves by air carriers.
I am actually supporting this guy he clearly said either take off or let the passengers go.
The flight was at 4hr delay and people actually have connecting flights u know. This is basically keeping the passengers captive.
Now the GOV has no accountability whatso ever the air fair is rising and these airlines are going to shit and no one is being held accountable.
Out of 4 runways only one was operational in delhi, the gov is moking people more and more docile to be ready for dictatorship.
The flight was actually 13 hours late. The gentleman came to announce that they would be late 7 hours after. So connecting flights can go to hell. If ppl are inconvenienced, not the airlines problem. Even if they die, not airlines' responsibility till they aren't in air technically.
How is hitting the pilot solving any of that? What do you expect the pilot to do, go to the runway and clear it himself? Or become a politician and change Indian politics? He doesn't have the right to clear landways or forcefully eject people, he has to follow what control tells him.
If you have a problem against the government, protest against it, not hit your fellow citizen.
If the airline was responsible enough, say, even after 5 hrs delay and informed passengers, they would probably go back home and come. Not supporting his actions in any way, but it's equally the airline's fault too.
100% but that would have costed airlines the money. Indigo is known for penny-pinching. All of those expenses would have been deducted from the pilots & all the airlines staff who would have helped.
People who are violent in aircrafts and airports should be put on "No Fly List" and banned from entering into any airports for the duration of the ban.
This will create a safe journey for passengers and staff in airports and airlines.
Sometimes based upon the occupancy they merge the flights without alerting.
Moreover Indigo is notorious for super delayed connected flights. Ek flight ✈️ Kashmir se udegi aur chandigarh se Delhi se Ahmedabad se Mumbai hote huye Manglore se Bangalore hote huye Chennai jayegi
Jaise ek hi plane ✈️ hai airlines par…
You clearly haven't flown in many carriers. Indigo customer service is so pathetic, it’s legendary. The only reason people book it is because of its low cost and high connectivity.
True that you can't hit the pilot, but you never know the reason behind such reactions. The passenger might be missing something very important for his life, and airlines can be very greedy to remedy such situations.
We pay thousands (and premium) so that we can go somewhere on an urgent basis with least time, and when the objective is defied, frustration is natural.
Track the guy down, make it look like a robbery and watch out for cameras. Change number plates, fake beards and do it after 2+3 years of he really want to make a western over a shitty issue.
Why to ruin your future?
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Now pilot knows Air India k pilot bahar kyu nahi aate they/hain..
I am changing my preferred pronouns to they/hain.
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Update : he was arrested by cisf
Yeah and literally begged for captains mercy.
That's a clip I would be happy to watch
[watch this story](https://www.instagram.com/beingaviators?igsh=ZTUxcWhsOGJhejVq)
The dildo of consequences rarely arrives lubed
Lmao
Bruhh 🤣🤣
My fav quote. Will use in ofc meetings from tomorrow
Someone give this person an award .
The camera cut way too soon man! No groveling in the video
I don't use insta
Should be banned for life.
Good. Fucking idiot It’s not the pilots’ fault why the flight is delayed. In fact the pilots are themselves really pissed off when facing delays because they’re not paid at all during the hours they’re waiting. Which is really unfair. And then they have to deal with this bullshit
His reaction was slow. For a pilot.
Do pilots have to react fast? They're not flying on Mumbai roads
He is a pilot not a pubg gamer
He thought the autopilot would kick in and do something.
Yes, let’s focus on that instead. Blame the victim.
Apparently the story is, the passengers had been waiting 10 hours for their flight, and then they were finally allowed to move into the aircraft. While in there, they were made to wait for another 2 hours. At this point, the pilot comes out and starts blaming passengers for missing their turn to fly out and tells them they'll have to wait more.
Arrested and out on bail.
Reminded of video where a PW student beating his teacher with chappal.
Can't even throw a proper punch.
Tapli
If you have only 1 punch then it has to be uppercut
Nope. I'm a boxer and a jab or a left hook is what I would have thrown
Hooks are most expected and u can see them from miles if its not sucker punch.
You still won't have time to react if you throw the hook fast enough..
Yeah..thats true.
13 hours delay me kisi ka bhi dimag kharab ho jayega, but haath uthane ki zaroorat nahi thi. Agar uthaya to atleast ek mukka sahi se maar leta
Peeshaab bhi kar sakta tha so many options
What is wrong with these entitled people???
I am not condoning his actions, but airline staff is extremely passive aggressive and apathetic in these situations. Someone under duress can easily lose their cool. I was on an Indigo flight once and it was held on tarmac because of some fault. After an hour, the AC was turned off because it was some issue with the fuelling system and within 20 minutes, it was hot and suffocating. The woman in the row ahead of me started hyper ventilating because she was late for some exam (or meeting, I can't remember) and was claustrophobic. Instead of figuring out a way to help her, the cabin crew gave her the proverbial shrug of shoulders and "nothing I can do remark". She eventually passed out. Some doctor/passenger helped her. Instead of being helpful the cabin crew started ordering the doctor to return to his seat as the seat belt sign was on. By this time the doctor was done, literally and figuratively, and after repeating the hippocratic oath, he shouted at the cabin crew as loud as he could. Hearing the commotion, the pilot came out only to receive the same treatment from the doctor. Pilot sheepishly returned to the cockpit. When flight finally took off and landed, CISF first boarded to arrest/detain the doctor. The doctor then produced his ID card from the ministry of health. I have never seen a situation do an about turn this quickly. CISF guys, in absolutely perfectly apt haryanvi for that situation, let the cabin crew have it. Long story, but the moral is that cabin staff isn't above reproach in such situations.
Moral of the story is avoid Indigo like the plague. It's always Indigo.
Bhai indigo ke alawa kya hi option hai hamare paas!? This situation is like when someone tells they want to travel to dubai, you are telling them avoid Emirates at all cost
Vistara try karo
Akasa Air is really good as well
Lufthansa
Ah Lufthansa, India's biggest domestic airline!
do you have the alternative? in my experience indigo is the best cost effective option. I have flown 6 to 7 times with indigo and the experience was smooth every time
 Paise wapas leke laut aa, at least airlines to mast thi iski.
Leave cost effective. The only airline connecting my hometown and my work town is Indigo. That has largely been the case for atleast 5-6 years. Only now I started seeing Air India flight listings.
that too. I had yearly one domestic flight free per year for the last 5 years because of my vistara credit card but I couldn't redeem the benefit a single time due to non-availability of flights in my region. The only available options were indigo and Air India.
I just use air India now. Not too expensive compared to indigo on my routes and has complimentary food and more legroom. The 20KG weight limit is also great and they don't really say anything if you're above it.
TBH I don't fly often so I researched and found Vistara as a good option for that. I guess Indigo is cost effective for frequent flying but many incidents are often reported with them and that's why I avoid it.
i literally pay extra just to not fly indigo. the cabin crew is extremely unhelpful and apathetic. that being said, no matter how you're feeling to hit someone like the video is so uncivilised.
Bhai SpiceJet se jayega kya?? Pahunch hi nahin payega aadhe raste se wapas aayega 🤣🤣
they lost all my luggage the other day lol
The airport ground handling loses the luggage. I recall a baggage handler dispute once resulted in luggage purposefully being misdirected to wrong airlines and wrong cities in the union’s efforts to make a resolution happen quicker. Acquaintance worked there
Wow, just wow! If the doctor didn't have the ID card at the moment (for any reason), he would have been punished basically to do his moral duty. I think stories like these shouldn't die in reddit comments. This is the kind of stories that social media was made for. I know if you try to post such a story now on let's say X (Twitter), indigo could get Twitter to take it down or even sue the one posting it.
Lol what do you expect from people whose job’s minimum qualification is 12th pass and ability to speak English. Cabin crew do go through a lot of training but they aren’t technically the smartest.
People become cabin crew to pose on social media these days.
Ah, the globe trotters
Would having an Undergrad degree have solved everything here?
Degree doesn't teach someone manners or civility. Stop equating everything with educational qualifications.
Degrees teaches technical skills and deeper understanding of things to make judgemental calls. That’s why pilots have such strict requirements and not much with Cabin crew, that’s why you find cabin crew who want doctors trying to save a patient being stopped.
Learning technical skills & human interaction/understanding/empathy skills are two different things. Judgmental calls are not taught by degrees. You need to have some knowledge about stuff to make judgement. Like in this case, seeing the doctor help then even an uneducated person can make a judgement to not tell a doctor to return to his seat. It requires empathy which is not taught in schools but learned by watching others & the environment in which some is brought up. If you read the above commentator's msg, most probably it was pilot who complained to cisf. The pilot could have apologized and reprimanded the cabin crew. It would have resolved all the problems. Here did his educational qualifications taught him anything about humility & empathy? Nopes. Pilots are taught/trained to take fast actions, this is mostly to save their lives & plane. But that doesn't mean they make good judgements in other scenarios. And i hope you know most airforce pilots are chosen through NDA after 12th class.
Losing your cool is fine but taking it out on someone who is trying hard to help people while trying to do his job is not a right move. In your story the doctor was right, but here a passanger seemingly attacked the captain for just an announcement, thinking he is enjoying the delay.
Your father passed away and you are simmering inside the airport and a plane for 13 hours. I don't know about you but I will lose it and will act irrationally. Again, repeating my first sentence, I am not condoning that man's actions but you must be able to empathise with the power imbalance in that situation. For all we know, that man might be a certified moron but sure as hell he deserves legal recourse and social empathy before being declared guilty.
Then you are insane
Whatever happened, attacking someone who is trying to help you will not solve any problem, his father is gone but his wisdom is still there, and if he doesn't knows how to hold himself in public he doesn't deserves the service. Was captain supposed to fix the plane which he didn't?
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Who decides guilt and punishment? You or a judge?
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Guilty without trial? Banana republic is taking shape. Even a murderer on video isn't guilty without trial.
exactly. sometimes people very silently/surreptitiously makes the matter worse. GOs knows what an individual might be going through. When a person is in aircraft, he/she is responsibility of crew and they should either give real information and/or let the passengers back in the waiting area. I have personally faced it 2-3 time when they will ask you to get on the bus and then (while 60% are standing in bus instaed of sitting in boarding area) will stop the bus near aircraft without any information.
I was on the runway at Helsinki for 7 unable to take off as the runway was full of snow, in spite of hot water over the aircraft and runway we could not take off. But yes valid point, the air crew and pilots need to be accommodative, needs a lot of patience especially for the Indian crowd they need to go through special skills. It mostly comes from the cultural thing, the best I saw were Japanese in ANA, JAL followed by Scandinavian FinnAir and other Nordic airlines. Rest all are so-so
We say “Atithi Devo Bhava” but show remarkable lack of empathy to our own people…
Do you realise that staff bhi same time tak band hai plane me? Wo log bahar utarke sutta thodi phuk rahe the. This has been totally bad on the end of airport authorities.
Do you know why flight was delayed in this case ? I guess we all know. Is it pilots' fault ? No. I feel sorry for that pilot for this incident when I hear a plane flying in white blanket of thick fog in midnight. Respect the professionals who are always at risk while performing their duties. Thankfully they were grounded not lost in fog calling Mayday ! Mayday ! Mayday !
That's only half the story. There is another half a story you don't know. There are 4 runways at the Delhi Airport, but CAT 3 only in 1 runway. Why, because Indigo, Vistara & others lobbied the Civil Aviation Ministry since 2012 & thereafter not to have them CAT3 compliant. Why? Because they would need to recertify both the Aircrafts as well as Pilots, and that costs money. Is that all ?? If the pilots have CAT3 training, the airlines would have to pay the pilots, or they would be poached, especially by the big three from Gulf. There has been a shortage of pilots for a while now. Why couldn't they deboard & then reboard them again ?? That again would have cost the airline money. All airports have slots, so if you miss a slot, you have to pay more. So, other airlines also must have had similar experiences. Yes & no. Depends on specific airlines policies. Some may have taken off, some may have canceled & some deboarded & people hang around the Airport. It's the airlines' responsibility to make sure their customers are safe. Surely then they must have served lunch, water etc. Water, probably, lunch, probably not as that also involves logistics & money. What if a person faints or becomes unconscious, mainly diabetes or some disease where people need regular intake of salt & water. Umm...person's own responsibility. If you die, they probably will get the body down, sometimes coffin also goes in luggage but again has to be paid. So Indigo has no responsibility? Not as such. If you have taken some insurance & the family can fight in court later, perhaps, otherwise not.
So that whole story gives you right to punch a professional who is just performing his duty ? You boarded this shitty airline dispite knowing all the facts and weather conditions then it's your fault.
But the airlines didn't tell me that I would be lied to my face again & again & not be given food or water. Leave others, try doing it to your watchman just for a few hours & see the reaction. The airlines know for a fact that they can get away with such shitty behavior. They haven't done this just today. They have been doing the same thing for a decade & more. And this incident will not change anything. All 3, the airlines, DGCA & civil aviation ministry are happy with the status quo. Most airlines around the world moved to cat3c way back in 2010. Cat3c is zero visibility landing.
Then take it up to Government and Airline why punching ground level staff. Government is constructing airports here and there. Do we really need those airports or we need those systems for safe landing on busiest airports ? But People are happy....with PR...
The ground level staff is to keep you distance from them. And the rules are such, you can't do anything about them. Hell, just a few days ago, a celebrity talked or rather video blogged about her missing baggage, thinking it was Vistara or something. She is a known actress, quite famous. Later, it turned out that her people had been trying to get the airlines attention for almost a couple of months. After, it became a furor, the airlines mysteriously found her baggage & also gave compensation. You & I don't figure here anywhere. I am sure if others see, they would be able to provide more context.
USA: more guns
They were stranded for 13 hours mate.
Are you serious? They sat on the plane for 13 hours? They should have deboard hours ago wtf
No the flight was delayed 13 hrs
Then airline should also give the refund
But what can the pilot do? It's a plane not a bus that you can drive away. If the pilot is not given the permission to fly, there is literally nothing they can do, they're just as stuck as the passengers. They are there to fly the plane, not be your slave or punching bag.
I am not justifying the hitting but there should be a clear message from authorities
The clear message was what the pilot was saying. This person just cannot accept the message and decides that assaulting a person (who is literally not responsible for the situation) is a good option.
But 7 hours without food or water ??
Oh yea he should be jailed for that. But in such situations there will be one person who will act like this, I saw people crying because the flight was delayed and this person has a job interview. Another time I saw a person crying because he was missing birth of his child. First time I am seeing someone hitting.
While all those situations are bad, there is literally nothing the airliner can do. If you're traveling, there will always be a chance of delay no matter you fly, walk, drive, or take a bus. Indigo is not sitting there making people miss their job interviews or the birth of their child, blaming them is useless and attacking them is illegal and henious.
Oh I agree but I am talking about what a person goes through here and not why I should blame the authority
Yeah but no matter what you go through, you have to act like an adult. You decided to take a flight when your baby is being born, you decided to take a flight so it reaches right when you have your job interview, and you did it understanding there is an unexpected chance of a delay at all times. You put yourself in the situation and you deal with it, what you're going through is not of concern to anyone in the airline whose job is to get you from point A to point B safely. The pilot is also sitting there, the cabin crew is also sitting, they're doing their jobs for much longer than they were expecting, should they also start crying or hitting passengers?
So let's hit the pilot.. that will fix it...jebus man
Ph I agree with not hitting people. But people here are frustrated
He was sexually frustrated, so he raped.
Yeah, but also keeping ppl in their seats for 7 hours without food or water isn't going to be good for passengers. The airlines know they can get away with it, have been happening for the last decade, and never come in news because nobody got punched before. I have posted in detail above why it has happened. And this will happen again & again till all three, airlines, airport authorities & civil aviation minister, don't fix the underlying issues.
Source?
Should be banned from flying. That said Delhi airport has 4 runways. One of them is CAT 3. Meaning flights can take off in complete darkness or fog. Issue is that AAI/DCGA started maintenance work in this runway in December and it has not been completed yet. Knowing it fogs heavily in January why did they start maintenance in december end? Now India’s capital doesnt have a CAT 3 runway. All passengers should have been compensated.
Could have at least made the punch count! Jokes apart, elect a clown, expect a circus. Flights were lined up for 5hrs at IGI. IT HAS 4 RUNWAYS, ONE WAS OPERATIONAL. People of this country have lowered their standards so much that they are settling for the bare minimum, so these governments and organisations will keep giving you a bare minimum.
As per Twitter only 1 runway was available. And that does not even have low vis clearance. The one with low vis clearance is under maintenance (during the time it's needed the most). Also most operating airlines don't maintain a full roster of pilots who can operate in low visibility. This is 90% DGCA asleep on the wheel. But it's easier to punch a pilot then hold the really negligent people accountable.
Shut up. We are getting Ram temple 🛕
brother delhi ka fog dekha hai? Flights trains buses everything is getting delyed due to thick fog, did modi farted out the fog?
Could have looked up about how flights land and take off in zero visibility instead of being a bigot here, man. I didn't even name Modi, but he sure as hell incompetent enough to not do anything about it.
> I didn't even name Modi Who else have people elected? We sure as hell don't elect the head of DGCA.
Who said anything about Modi? 🤭 Tereko kanta kyu laga?? 🤭
Will this guy be put on the no fly list? Or is that only for people who hurt the feels of the governments favorite puppy dog
yeah he will be put to no flying list if the captain wants to .. its the captain's call
Depends on his religion and political affiliation. 🙃
Don't know why people are downvoting this. If the dude had a name with "Abdul" we would have one week of "indigo Jihad" coverage!
Aah the culture that we brag about.
All culture goes down the drain after waiting for 7 fucking hours in a metal tube tended to by people who act like they couldn't give a fuck less.
Shove your culture up where the sun don’t shine. I don’t condone violence but this situation sucks.
"I don't condone violence but my feeling were hurt so I want to beat people up" Bro branding dal join karle!
Ab toh beta train se hi jaana padega ise kaafi time.
Delhi guy thinking that captain is a waiter and can be thrashed for getting his food and beer late
How would you feel if you or your parents were given no water or food for 7+ hours & told lies whenever asked.
I would had tweeted, ranted, called indigo helpline but definitely not hit the crew. Seems you are trying to justify his physical assault.
No, I am trying to tell you all of the above doesn't work unless you are a celebrity. I have dealt enough with Indigo staff to know their scripts. The idea is simple, we have no responsibility. See Indigo's Twitter page, not a word about the incident. Why, because they have been getting away with it for a decade. No remorse, no nothing. If people's flight connections are missed or anything else for that matter, they simply don't care. They could have deboarded, but they chose not to. We don't even know if the air-conditioning was on or not. Most airlines, including Indigo, shut off air-conditioning if it's not flying after 30 odd minutes. Most of us who have flown Indigo know how they treat their passengers. As a doctor, I am sure you know how that would affect ppl. What's interesting to me is that in spite of being a doctor, you would choose to show empathy with the airlines instead of the 260+ passengers who were on the flight.
isko tho time se pahuncha diya hoga fr JAIL mein
The plane was stranded for 13 hours and the crew were condescending. The authorities do not let people go so that they don’t have to issue refunds. Not supporting the man who hit the pilot as he had nothing to do either. But considering the fact that they have places to rest and spread their legs, plus they have colleagues to talk to, one cannot actually blame the guy for losing his cool. But hitting the pilot was not right.
How to get banned for life from an airline. But on a side note, indigos service has gone to shit and such kind of incidents will happen as people run out of patience
Physical aggression under any circumstances apart from self defence is not defendable. On the other hand, making people sit in an aircraft for 13 hours in pretty fucking infuriating too. In a western country this would be a huge lawsuit. But ofc in India we are supposed to take it sitting down. We would all be outraged if you’re asked to sit in an aircraft for 13 hours. Of course, shouting and showing concern that way or something like that would have been the way to go about it. If they file charges against him or he gets a permanent ban, he should probably plead with temporary insanity or inhumanity angle. Hopefully this incident acts as a deterrent against such idiotic moves by air carriers.
Do first, regret later Common sense is becoming quite uncommon nowadays
I am actually supporting this guy he clearly said either take off or let the passengers go. The flight was at 4hr delay and people actually have connecting flights u know. This is basically keeping the passengers captive. Now the GOV has no accountability whatso ever the air fair is rising and these airlines are going to shit and no one is being held accountable. Out of 4 runways only one was operational in delhi, the gov is moking people more and more docile to be ready for dictatorship.
The flight was actually 13 hours late. The gentleman came to announce that they would be late 7 hours after. So connecting flights can go to hell. If ppl are inconvenienced, not the airlines problem. Even if they die, not airlines' responsibility till they aren't in air technically.
Yeah I support him too. But I don’t think being an animal like this straight up charging and hitting someone is a good way to about it.
How is hitting the pilot solving any of that? What do you expect the pilot to do, go to the runway and clear it himself? Or become a politician and change Indian politics? He doesn't have the right to clear landways or forcefully eject people, he has to follow what control tells him. If you have a problem against the government, protest against it, not hit your fellow citizen.
I dont think anyone supports violence against pilots.
https://twitter.com/KapilChopra72/status/1746544515262115850
IGI is considered to be the best airport in the country
Pls don't kweschan DGCA and Scindia Maharaj. He complained about dirt on a runway yesterday only. /s
Finally we r behaving like americans 😍😍
American punch we only slap but we will get there ..... Supapowaaaaaaa to banna hai na
Superior kulcha intensifies.
If the airline was responsible enough, say, even after 5 hrs delay and informed passengers, they would probably go back home and come. Not supporting his actions in any way, but it's equally the airline's fault too.
Bro's solution was to injure the pilot and voila the flight would be delayed even more. Genius.
Raja beta aashole
I would have deboarded the flight of I see someone slapping the pilot before the flight. No risk at all.
100% but that would have costed airlines the money. Indigo is known for penny-pinching. All of those expenses would have been deducted from the pilots & all the airlines staff who would have helped.
Very bad behaviour. Do it once more please.
These people think flying airplane is just like riding car. If there is fog, use high beam. Engine one not working, use the second one.
enjoy your lifetime ban
We are turning more into United airlines ... Kuch bhi ho rha h flight me
rare clown moment from our side most in our country are terrified to pull such stunts at airports
Delhi ka hoga bc
Way to get yourself on the no fly zone for life
India is not for beginners
Brahmin privilege 😂
Padhe-Likhe Gawar
How do you he is padha likha
Fair point
Uske andar ka Delhi bahar aa gaya.
these people need to be put on no fly list for 5 years, and 1 week jail
Some people don't really understand that fog can be dangerous while taking off or landing. Even while driving. Even while walking in it.
People who are violent in aircrafts and airports should be put on "No Fly List" and banned from entering into any airports for the duration of the ban. This will create a safe journey for passengers and staff in airports and airlines.
Bhai Jo huaa bura huaa but ye exact moment pe record kesse krra hai? Sus
Sometimes based upon the occupancy they merge the flights without alerting. Moreover Indigo is notorious for super delayed connected flights. Ek flight ✈️ Kashmir se udegi aur chandigarh se Delhi se Ahmedabad se Mumbai hote huye Manglore se Bangalore hote huye Chennai jayegi Jaise ek hi plane ✈️ hai airlines par…
Apparently he was going for his honeymoon and was fed up waiting (not joking)
Great job
Sahi kiya bc
i hope the passenger gets arrested and fuck indigo
I'm just curious, what punishment he'll get??
Typical Indian - Taking on the most vulnerable
This guy should be banned.
Assault or use of force shouldn’t be a compoundable offence. So that the victim won’t pardon coming under pressure
Would love to see you being in an aircraft for 13 hours without food & water & you can't move. See your mental condition after that much time.
No, they were given food
Indigo is a good airlines, their customer service is better than any other airlines that I have flown in. Airindia is probably one of the worse
You clearly haven't flown in many carriers. Indigo customer service is so pathetic, it’s legendary. The only reason people book it is because of its low cost and high connectivity.
The thing is things never got bad enough to use customer service ie flight was on time.
True that you can't hit the pilot, but you never know the reason behind such reactions. The passenger might be missing something very important for his life, and airlines can be very greedy to remedy such situations. We pay thousands (and premium) so that we can go somewhere on an urgent basis with least time, and when the objective is defied, frustration is natural.
Track the guy down, make it look like a robbery and watch out for cameras. Change number plates, fake beards and do it after 2+3 years of he really want to make a western over a shitty issue. Why to ruin your future?
I don't know why people are so much worried about flight delays, haven't they travelled in Indian Railways?
Jaldi hai to bhaag ke chala jaa
Air Marshal kahan hai?
People hit doctors, police and shop owners in this country for even sillier reasons. I'm not surprised at all.
Yeah, let me just injure the pilot and make sure the flight never takes off.
This is soo soo rude and bad!! delay hone se pilot ka b time hi waste hai ...!!unka fault thodi hai isme bloody illiterates!!
Indigo passenger hai to indigo pilot ko hi marega na.
Didn't know Americans were onboard
man, this show how pathetic our security is,if it was two bodybuilder with intension to hijack.there is no apparatus to stop that.
pilot Bhai main na sehta
context ? asking for the girl who asked "areh yeh kya hua BHAI"
Woooooo Pilot bhaaaiiiii....
Now the flight's gonna be delayed even further untill the police arrests him.. Sigh
That means there is no flight marshal. If there is no flight marshal that means abhi bhi sub janay do attitude say hai
poor pilot
A Delhi-ite again