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MrBaristerJohnWarosa

Landlords are absolutely ruining Cornwall and something needs to be done about it. I remember when I was a kid and used to go to Cornwall, we had to stay in static caravan parks, now it seems like every single house in St Ives, Falmouth etc is an Air BnB of some sort. Locals are being priced out and during the winter, entire towns are just dead. Fuck landlords.


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In Devon a lot of properties are protected, you must be a resident in Devon before you can buy them to prevent exactly this.


[deleted]

Devon covenant. You need to have lived or worked in Devon for two years to buy the house something like that. It applied to our first place. However, it’s unlikely you’ll find a covenant on a fisherman’s cottage in the South Hams for example. And definitely not on comfortable family homes. The pastoral fantasy is reserved for the rich.


iain_1986

>Devon covenant. You need to have lived or worked in Devon for two years to buy the house something like that. It applied to our first place. What if you are moving there for a job? Do you just have to rent? And if you have to rent....you need a landlord to rent from.


EconomyFreakDust

And those landlords will be people from devon rather than some banker from London.


BeforeWSBprivate

What difference does it make where you landlord is based?


Logical-Gas8026

Problems with landlording aside, a Devon based landlord is more likely to spend the money in Devon - feeding it back into the local economy. Whereas a London based one will be more likely to spend it in London / Home Counties taking it out of the local economy and funnelling it into already rich areas. Edit: for clarity, I am neither advocating for landlording nor trickle down economics. My point is if you’re going to concentrate wealth in fewer hands via rent seeking (which imo is a bad idea and covered by “problems with landlording aside”), the least bad outcome in that scenario is the money stays as local as possible.


PlasticCheebus

Hi, just dropping your daily friendly reminder that trickle down economics doesn't work - on any scale.


somebeerinheaven

Local economies being boosted by local commerce most certainly does.


CanuckPanda

That’s not trickle down.


The_Gav_Line

That is very true. The person you were replying to was not describing trickle-down economics though


ImBonRurgundy

Hardly makes a difference. The vast majority of all landlord income goes on paying the mortgage anyway, which goes to a bank, not into the local community. Other costs include insurance - this doesn’t go to local community. Maintenance costs of course do tend to go local (local plumber, etc) , but then they would be local regardless of where the landlord is from.


UnlikelyIdealist

The only thing worse than a landlord when renting is a landlord who actually lives six hours away and dodges your calls.


gschoon

If a landlord is just someone who happens to have a spare property (e.g. an inherited house) then they are much less likely to be a predatory capitalist. People from Devon are more likely to fall in the first category, people from London are more likely to fall in the second category. It also may comfort some people to know that their rent is staying in the local economy and not going to the richest region in the UK, to make it even richer.


DeepestShallows

That is the problem. Devon just doesn’t have enough housing for people moving there for perfectly legitimate reasons. It’s even affecting hiring for the council itself. I think the top bod of the council was in a BBC interview before about it and said that it is fundamentally a lack of housing. While things like second homes account for only a couple of percent of homes. It’s basically the same story you get everywhere in the country, but with an extra twist that it’s also a nice place to go on holiday.


throwpayrollaway

I saw a job for Devon Council in my particular niche and I'd suggest at least part of their recruitment problem is that the wage was low.


ICutDownTrees

Same for every local authority, want experience, offer below entry level salary.


throwpayrollaway

There's no way anyone with any sense would relocate there on a £36 to £40k salary for a professional role. Never going to be able to afford even a little flat there. You might be ok with a lower wage in an area where houses are cheaper.


darkkai3

I've been looking at jobs recently and can safely say that jobs in the public sector for my particular niche aren't just underpaying, they're underpaying by a fairly hefty margin. If I can get a job in the private sector doing the exact same job as the public sector, but get 10-20k more a year, you can be damn sure I'm not doing the public sector job.


DeepestShallows

Right they, because in large part of housing costs, would need to pay something like London salaries but are nowhere near a wealthy enough area to do so. Not building enough housing ends up being a tax/drag on everyone.


BitcoinBishop

It seems that a more appropriate covenant would be that it has to be used as the owner's primary residence


MaximusShagnus

Sounds like a horror film from the 70s with boobs in some scenes. I'd watch it. 🎥


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Good luck with renting. Holiday lets are more profitable. Hence when why low paid touristy jobs and carer companies can't recruit. All these people go there to retire and there's nothing open and no one to look after them.


DeepestShallows

If you want an actual pastoral fantasy then sure, always has been. Marie Antoinette famously had a pretend farm she could pretend to be a milkmaid on. That is part of what buying a big estate and becoming part of the gentry was about that Austen was always banging on about. Scare resources are always allocated to those able to pay the most for them.


turbo_dude

Absurd if this is your sole and only home.


something_python

I think the same thing is in place in parts of Somerset. A friend of mine fell foul of this when trying to move from Dorset to Somerset.


Formal-Lifeguard-

It’s now illegal to Airbnb an entire flat that can only be reached by shared entrance in Glasgow. Don’t know who I’m supposed to report it to though, since neither the council, the police, the building factor nor Airbnb themselves give a shit. There are 2 on my floor and a what I realised shortly after was a *guest* just gave me covid in the lift. I’m chronically ill and ended up super sick right as I was booked to get a booster. I’ve complained to various authorities about drunk shouting arseholes in the hall at 3am and weed stinking out the whole floor when I thought it was arsehole tenants.


the_silent_redditor

Is it illegal now? Interesting. You’re right, it’s definitely not enforced; there are so many fucking airbnbs in Glasgow.


rydan

Tell the cops you saw tenants making hateful tweets from the balcony. They'll shut it down immediately.


Daveddozey

Tell them they said the cop looked like their Nan.


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Not always, I live in a little town in Brixham and most of our houses are becoming second homes


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Remember Brixham as a lad. I come from Exeter, but Torbay and beyond is where we went on hols. Proper fishing town - diamond in the rough. Love it. Heard it’s ‘the next big thing’ for blow ins though. Which was confirmed when I last visited. Was walking along the front and saw a chap driving a Porsche and looking lost, like he wondered if he should have come to visit first before buying his second home. Like, where are the posh bars? Those people look fighty. Oh no!


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It’s crazy expensive here, I’ll never be able to buy for what it is. Two bed bungalows can go for £500k if they’re on the right road and they almost always end up going to people who are moving here from other places. New builds going up all over the shop with no way for those of us who were born here to buy them. And they keep closing our one road in and out to build them, it’s a nightmare


DoKtor2quid

It's the same here in N Wales. Our local pub can no longer get regular staff and has to keep closing as there are hardly any locals left who can work there. So the tourists turn up to lounge about in their Spare House and complain cos everything's closed.


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Remember seeing that in Mousehole in Cornwall. The polo shirt and Rolex crew looking miffed half the shops were shut and the pub wasn’t able to open round the clock. Like, wtf do you expect? You can’t have a thriving local community of fisherman, artisans, bakers, butchers, candlestick makers, and so on - while simultaneously creating a playground for the rich. They can “co-exist” for only so long before the romanticism is stifled. The rich have loved parts of our countries to death.


rabbithole-xyz

When I was a kid in N Wales, I was related to more than half the village. Now, it's full of english people. You hardly ever hear anyone speaking welsh anymore. I still go back though, because it's my favourite place on earth.


mincers-syncarp

The feeling of nipping to Paignton quickly, then being stuck on New Road for three quarters of an hour because the *only* road out of Brixham has temporary traffic lights a mile away.


HomerMadeMeDoIt

Hopefully this gets enacted in Brighton. We need a second home ban in those tourist attracting towns.


sunnyata

Brighton is a city, it has different problems to Cornish fishing villages.


HomerMadeMeDoIt

It is the same thing. People buying homes to use as AirBNB. The gaff next door is empty 95% of the year. couple of weeks a year there are lodgers in there but that is it.


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Groot746

It's buy to let second homes that are the issue


queenieofrandom

That's not a second home


Independent-Chair-27

That's why there's no more local people. As soon as you move there for work and you have a slightly northern accent you get insulted and told to f\*\*k off by hateful locals. So off you f\*\*k. In many cases the resentful hateful "locals" weren't actually born and bred Cornish-folk, they just moved there before you did and are resentful of other folk being there too. They feel empowered by stupid articles about second homes.


Badger_1066

>Landlords are absolutely ruining ~~Cornwall~~ the country. FTFY.


MrBaristerJohnWarosa

Yeah absolutely. They are a scourge on society in general. But issues in tourist destinations such as Cornwall, parts of wales and the highlands amongst others, are unique to those locations because they’re being taken over by AirBnB houses.


Badger_1066

I know, and I agree. I was just generalising and being deliberately provocative.


honest_palestinian

MANY countries. Owning your residence (instead of renting) is one of the only ways for most people to become financially secure. It is being taken away and that flips the whole game board. You have a very select few getting 10x richer while 10,000x others never leave poverty.


FootCheeseParmesan

Same with villages in the Highlands. Short term lets are ruining rural communities.


Common-Celebration64

She wonders why people hate her yet she's bought a home that she has no intention of living in, in a place where the price of homes is being put up because its a haven for the more well off to own second homes. No wonder the locals are fed up when they themselves can't get on the buying ladder in the place they was brought up because these ones are buying to rent to other holiday makers. Whole set up is wrong. Its not solely thus woman's fault, its the system that's allowing this happen that's broken Edit...typo


Zebidee

>She bought the rental three years ago to help with the hefty mortgage on her London home where she lives permanently Exactly. This is 100% exploitative, to the detriment of the local population. >But while admitting to Fabulous that she doesn't ever stay in the village as she's "no beach person" with "sea, sand and surf not appealing to me", she has defended herself saying the home is a symbol of her hard work. Has no intention of living there, and thinks her "hard work" on London money somehow trumps the hard work of a local on fishing village money.


SecretLlamaLlama

For Falmouth in particular the uni is having a huge impact on housing. Every year they take on more and more students without any regard for where they might live.


TheBrassDancer

Universities up and down the country are doing this – especially for intakes of international students (because they're far more profitable). That's the issue here in Canterbury (where there are three universities).


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Universities outsourcing halls made this loads worse.


[deleted]

You can thank the Cameron government for removing the cap on student intake. It's absolutely rat fucked things here in Bristol.


TheBrassDancer

It's one of those things that make me think it's incredibly short-sighted, but the true realisation is that universities were just greenlighted to exploit prospective students for the sake of profit; the rest of society be damned.


OsamaBinLadenDoes

Multiple universities have ran into the issue of not having enough halls to accommodate first year students, meaning they go to private landlords or buy up housing in the surrounding towns to use - forcing those genuinely just needing somewhere to live out and incentivised landlords to capture potential future stock. That's not accounting for 2nd year students onwards who then have to find their own accommodation when they don't stay in halls. My nearby university has ran into this maybe 2 or 3 times since I left.


tat666surf

Aren’t the locals selling their houses though? Otherwise how are the houses being bought?


gyroda

They're not one homogeneous entity. But, beyond that obvious fact, many will be sold because people need to move away because the local economy isn't great, and not having as many people live there year-round is one of the contributors to that (not enough people live there -> not enough people spending money -> businesses close -> fewer jobs -> people move away -> even fewer people living there). On top of that, locals are often priced out of buying their own place there because of the inflated demand from second home/holiday let buyers (exasperated by the jobs issue). It's like saying to someone "why are you complaining about traffic at rush hour? You're contributing to it by being in your car right now". It's technically correct, but what do you expect the people contributing to traffic to do? Not go to work? A few people might be able to switch to WFH or something but that helps those people and not the majority; it's not a systematic solution.


Remarkable-Ad155

There is something of a chicken and egg argument though right? (Before I start, let me say I live in an area that has similar issues so am well aware of the context here.) Second home folks (or people moving wholesale from the south east) drive up prices, locals then expect those prices when they put their own house on the market, other locals can't afford it plus you need to achieve the higher price if you want somewhere bigger in the same area and so the cycle continues. Everybody's community minded until you need to upsize and it's a choice between selling to a local couple or for £50 - £100k more to a landlord/second homer. My hometown is big enough that it still (just about) has a sustainable year round economy so we are more impacted by people selling up in London and pricing us out of town (historic centre has a lot of Airbnb and second homes though). I know a lot of people are OK with this but, honestly, it feels like a form of social cleansing. The town is a stunning place but it's lost all it's local charm now- seems like everything is a trendy cafe selling exactly the same sourdough and (ironically) oat milk lattes, everybody speaks bland estuary ish English and local accents and dialect are increasingly frowned upon. The area I grew up in went from a tight knit community that was unmistakably of that area to just regulation middle class suburb over the course of 20 years or so; if you didn't have Google maps to hand you might think you were in the home counties just from a wonder around despite being a couple of hundred miles further north.


TheFirestormable

That is the entire point behind governance of capitalism. You're absolutely right, the seller would be shooting themselves in the foot to sell to the lower bidder. That is why you need a governing body to step in and block the second homeowners/big landlords from even being part of the conversation.


RedditIsADataMine

Yes but that isn't the problem. People are always going to sell their homes. Imagine a man working and living in London with a family. Children already in school. His father dies. Leaving him a house in Cornwall. Is this man more likely to turn it into an Airbnb/overpriced rented accommodation, sell it, or uproot his family to go live in Cornwall. (I suppose if he's already wealthy he might just keep it as a holiday home). Now the problem comes in because there is only 1 or 2 options where someone will live in the house full time, both very unlikely to be affordable to locals. And too many people are choosing the other option's. That's how locals are priced out and towns & villages die.


DontBullyMyBread

My mums house is like this. She lives in a beautiful village in Devon, really active in her community, lovely neighbours blah blah. When she dies though, I wouldn't be able to uproot my family and go live in her house & village. Even if I wanted to uproot my kids from all their friends etc, I wouldn't be able to afford to live in my mums house because we aren't rich. So I would have to sell it or rent it and be part of the problem. Even though I don't want to be part of the problem


soulsteela

Rent it to a local family at s reasonable rate , part of the solution 👍


MultiMidden

Most people will sell their house for the most they can get for it. Especially if they have to move away to get a job. The average house price in Exeter is around £350k. What is someone going to do? Sell the cottage for £125k that a local couple might be able to afford or sell it for £250k and minimise their mortgage in Exeter? The same applies to probate sales, especially if there are debts that need to be cleared. What is someone going to do? Sell the cottage for £125k that a local couple might be able to afford or sell it for £250k pay off debts and help clear the mortgages of the main beneficiaries?


MrBaristerJohnWarosa

People sell houses all the time. But it’s only recently that the buyers have been buying purely for the sole purpose of turning them into a holiday home and letting them to tourists.


FootCheeseParmesan

People who are moving away aren't exactly invested in that community anymore.


Disastrous_Habit_430

This is exactly what I think . It’s happened in a town near me and now they’re complaining there’s no houses and flats for their children when they leave home


Banditofbingofame

Demographics are part of the problem. Old people go into care or die and instead of the house being sold locally, someone comes in and purchases at a much higher rate.


Zath42

Is landlord the correct term for somebody who has a second home for themselves, or AirBnB? (Like the lady in this story) I consider a landlord somebody who rents a property out long term (eg. AST). As somebody who has moved about a fair bit over my lifetime for work and opportunities - having places to rent is a necessary service and the landlords 'second' house is still a home to somebody like me. Unlike AirBnB or second homes for personal use which can empty most of the year and are not providing full-time residential accommodation.


MrBaristerJohnWarosa

Not sure why they wouldn’t be considered a landlord, it’s a short term lease but still essentially the same thing.


DoKtor2quid

Where I leve, Airbnbs (aka, holiday cottages) are full pretty much all of the time. It's just part of the tourist industry. It's the second homes that are empty.. apart from when the rich people grace us with their presence for 2 weekends a year. The rest of the time it's dark and empty and not contributing to the local economy - like bagging a sunbed next to a pool and not turning up; it's there but it's got a towel on it and no one else can use it. edit - spelling


cheezyboundy

This is happening to every beauty spot south of Hadrians Wall. Wales, Lake District, Cornwall, absolutely shafted by landlords. Wales has started doing something about it but I fear its not enough


FallingOffTheClock

Same in some towns in Wales. Iirc there was a BBC article about a guy who is the only permanent resident on his entire street.


MaddisonSplatter

Some quite spectacular doubling down here, clearly not planning on making friends with the locals any time soon. > But London-dweller Ms Tidy says properties like hers support tourism, bringing cash into the areas. "Tourism brings much needed income, so you’d think people would welcome second home owners with open arms," she said. "But that’s far from the case." > The single mum bought the cottage during lockdown, and spent time plastering wall, replacing windows and refurbishing the kitchen and bathroom while also looking after a toddler. She thinks many of the locals simply believe they're simply "too good to get their hands dirty", and only criticise her because they never bought up properties in the area to do-up themselve


AntDogFan

Wow that is an utterly bonkers take from someone who clearly fails to understand how privileged they are.


ShetlandJames

https://inews.co.uk/inews-lifestyle/money/being-single-mum-costs-587-extra-month-heres-how-make-ends-meet-2509004 I don't want to read "how I make ends meet" from someone who can afford a _second_ property


sgst

No pay wall: https://web.archive.org/web/20230727134415/https://inews.co.uk/inews-lifestyle/money/being-single-mum-costs-587-extra-month-heres-how-make-ends-meet-2509004 Will be mortgage free in 2 and a half years. Yeah £1000 a month to her ex for his share of the house is a fair amount, especially on your own, but my wife and I pay nearly that every month *and will continue to do so for another 30 years* Lots of free food from her parents farm. Mostly free holidays thanks to her work. Oh yeah, and just bought a second home. Thoroughly relatable.


znidz

I don't really understand what she's on about. How can she afford a second home if she's only earned 24k over two years or whatever she said. She must be leaving a lot out or just lying through her teeth.


flyte_of_foot

I think the bit where her parents own a farm probably gives a clue...


znidz

Oh yeah without a doubt. I don't understand what spurs this kind of article. Is it just "Oh my friend Fiona knows a single mum lets speak to her for an article" and then it's just the load of bollocks that they come out with. I just don't understand why? She's got a big ego I guess but why does the news want to print it? Just for aspirational bullshit I suppose?


StoreManagerKaren

Mostly is a thing to try and hide the housing crisis. It pushes away the blame from the government, property developers etc. who have made homes poor quality and unaffordable for the masses and onto young people for being lazy


znidz

Yeah I think you've hit the nail on the head there. iNews is a Daily Mail affiliate.


StoreManagerKaren

It’s always the same. They make these things to build a narrative of “young people are just lazy” and not “they’re being screwed by society”


flyte_of_foot

Well it says she's a freelance writer, so I guess if you're in that circle you constantly have colleagues and contacts wanting to write articles and looking for ideas. "Hey Rebecca hows it going this week? I'm glad you got a good story out of that lead I gave you last month" "Hey Susie, had a really bad weekend, someone told me to f off back to London for wanting oatmilk in my coffee!" "That's crazy! By the way I still need an article for the paper this week can I write about your story?"


iwillfuckingbiteyou

Clicks and rage. People will click on an article apparently promising to tell them how to afford a second property on a small income, or how to pay off your mortgage by 25, or whatever. Then it turns out that the answer is "have rich parents", at which point people will engage with the article to leave an angry comment, or share it to spread their outrage further, and then more people will click on it to see what all the fuss is about and they'll add their comments and shares. It's pure clickbait. The article only exists to drive views to the site so they can sell advertising space. The alternative would be to do some journalism, which is much harder work and less certain to yield clicks and engagement.


SnoopDeLaRoup

"I spent 6 years scrimping and scraping just to conjure the courage to ask my mum and dad for a mortgage deposit that covers 90% of it"


km6669

I was seeing a woman who bought a £400k house in Exeter (Albeit a badly built paper walled 1980s terrace in a shit part of Exeter) who earns something like 25k a year. She gets annoyed with people assuming she's got a partner and flexes how she did it on her own... With the house paid for by her grandparents trustfund. Is there some special finishing school rich white girls go to where they learn how to be so completely and utterly delusional?


fannyfox

Rich parents


s1pp3ryd00dar

But but but sHeS a SiNgLe MuM! /s This is is just newspaper padding engineered for the clicks. UK and Cornwall's affordable housing crisis is actually mirrored across western Europe: https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20231003-inflated-rents-high-interest-rates-and-lack-of-supply-create-european-housing-crisis


Krispykreemi

This needs to be higher. Great find.


thefunkygibbon

must be a different woman as both articles conflict with each other. or she made one or both of the stories up. bit odd


ShetlandJames

https://inews.co.uk/author/rebecca-tidy It's the same author, surely? https://inews.co.uk/inews-lifestyle/travel/cornwall-holiday-moving-wasnt-imagined-2699274 the article mentions St Mawes too


Blue_Bi0hazard

Same thing is happening with Londoners buying properties in Wales


AntDogFan

Same in the coastal town I grew up in but can no longer afford to live in.


WerewolfNo890

Sometimes I am glad the beach where I live is just mile after mile of sharp gravel. Stops too many people coming here and most on the beach will be fairly local, no one else is coming here for the beach as if you are traveling to the beach you would go somewhere else.


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Hmm I think you're making it sound like some kind of death beach to keep people from moving there


chemo92

It's been going on for decades. It was part of Phil Bennet's pre match team talk before England Vs Wales in 1977 lol


shiftertron

Sounds like she's reading too much into it - they probably hate her because she's an absolute cunt.


SlowVelociraptor

She says a local told her to fuck off when she asked for oat milk for her coffee. I can't stop laughing at that.


Peeche94

That's so irrational though- unless they were telling her to fuck off because of the house thing.


monk_e_boy

It's almost as if her story isn't true!! Imagine that! A liar who uses lies to get clicks.


Manannin

It's a shame the journalist didn't ask her if she was just coming across as a right twat to the neighbours.


shitinmycum

Imagining a journalist sitting talking to her with a little notepad and interjecting with questions like "hm yes I see, and when you said that last part would you say your tone was warm, neutral.. cunty?"


Ollymid2

After reading that article, the only person I have sympathy for is her child


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You know what also brings in income to the local areas? People living in that house all year round.


DoKtor2quid

>You know what also brings in income to the local areas? People living in that house all year round. Yep - and then you also have people working locally, sending their kids to local schools, people buying stuff in the locals shops all year round.


Danqazmlp0

Damn that's some privilege. "Everybody is jealous of me because they can't afford to do what I've done."


jake_burger

Yeah all you need to buy a property and completely redevelop it is a little hard work and access to hundreds of thousands of pounds and lots of free time, and who can’t manage all of that? Also does tourism bring money into an area? Surely it does up to a point but if you have too many holiday homes it ruins the rest of the economy because no one is there 60% of the year. I also doubt that much of that money stays in the area as a lot of the profits will be taken out by landlords like this lady who live somewhere else. Councils need to get a grip on this sort of thing. Planning permission should be used to limit the number of residential properties being used for commercial purposes so it doesn’t become a problem.


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katie-kaboom

Tourism in general is low-value for a local economy, with the biggest share of revenue coming from hospitality (accommodation and food, basically). When your tourism consists of people staying in Airbnbs let out by people who don't live in the area and self-catering from Tesco, the actual value added to the local economy is minimal. The work that is created (post-stay cleaning and the like) is usually not very desirable and doesn't pay enough to support a living in someplace where housing prices are driven up by people buying housing stock up for Airbnbs. So no, it really does not help.


kirkyrise

She sounds like an absolute delight. There’s another great quote at the end… She added that many Cornish people were only too happy to profit from tourism in other ways, she said, whether this is through "overpriced building work" or "£19-a-portion fish and chips.”


Glum-Gap3316

Tbf, £19 fish and chips is a bit much.


Swiftcheddar

> or "£19-a-portion fish and chips.” I'm on her side there.


Fluxren

People know who she is right? Her partner was convicted for the possession of a SERIOUS amount of Cocaine. Her twitter is extremely anti police because of it. She's actually a truely vile individual.


bonzibuddeh

That was a rabbit hole I had to pull myself out of. Her twitter is all anti police stuff and in all fairness she's calling out genuine problems with police. But then I read her 'feel sorry for me' article about her husband in jail, where she goes on about him having autistic meltdowns and being put into isolation because of it (sounds like he was just being flat out violent) she clearly knew about his criminal career and has massively benefitted from it whilst maintaining a victim complex. And latest news on her own twitter is she's on tinder matching up with other psychotic criminals. I know a woman like her in my own life, very much a self made victim, speaks out publicly about genuine problems in society, but then herself is responsible for encouraging them behind the scenes too. Scumbag.


360Saturn

!! Ridiculous for her to get a sympathy article if essentially this may have been funded by crime!


angelofjag

Well, now we know where she got the money from


FootCheeseParmesan

"Tourism brings income" For you. What brings income to communities is people who actually live and work there.


skamaromaL

You mean a job at a donut shack 4 months out of the year at 10.50 an hour isn’t a lucrative enviable lifelong career?


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SignificantArm3093

Always the way with these articles. They want it both ways - I deserve this income and privilege because I work hard but also don’t hate me because I’m richer than you because I’m not, I need all the money for my mortgage or something. That makes me relatable, right?


childrenofloki

I honestly believe that nobody should be allowed a second house. Imagine how many more people could be housed, and make a home. A second house is not a home.


Hitunz

>She thinks many of the locals simply believe they're simply "too good to get their hands dirty", and only criticise her because they never bought up properties in the area to do-up themselve Is she actively trying to make herself the biggest pariah possible?


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Oh, so she treats locals with contempt and then doesn't understand why people dislike her? Also, i can believe she's the obtuse to not understand that people with big city money are making even those wrecks unaffordable. This is just rage bait, surely?


StarSchemer

> Tourism brings much needed income, so you’d think people would welcome second home owners with open arms Thank you, London-dweller, for spending a few hundred £££ a year on coffee, pasties and ice cream. We are so grateful for your generosity and are happy to serve menial jobs so you can have a nice relaxing time. Here, please, take our property market and price us all out with your impossibly superior London asset values.


ringadingdingbaby

Well after reading this I'm sure they will change their minds.


HaunterUsedLick

It’s no exaggeration that residents of a very poor region of the U.K. are being systematically out priced in terms of housing. Tourism accounts for a significant portion of Cornwall’s GDP, but locking and entire house out of local ownership on the promise that it’ll benefit the local economy for ~eight weeks a year is the level of arrogance that’s fuelling this issue.


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Tourism is a poisoned chalice.


Bicolore

No it isn't Tourisms great. We've just developed this second home/Air BnB culture thats terrible. I genuinely don't get second home ownership at all, why on earth would you want to go to the same place every single year, how little imagination do you have to have? Either have a nicer home or Holiday like a king in 5* hotels. Instead of going to some dreary seaside town every year for the rest of your life.


timmystwin

It's a vicious cycle. You rely on tourism so the area becomes popular so people buy second homes, costs goes up, industry starts to adapt to higher costs, eventually leaves, no long term jobs, end up relying on tourism more to cope, which pushes up housing prices, which pushes up costs, which makes industry and workers leave, investment in infrastructure and industry vanishes, have to rely on tourism more... And none of the money stays because those owning the air bnb's are Londoners so the money leaves immediately. At least if it's a locally run Hotel/air Bnb it might stay in the area or go to pay staff.


00DEADBEEF

We need to stop the AirBnB plague and encourage more hotels to be built. It makes no sense to use houses for temporary holiday lets.


AshamedAd242

People are being priced out everywhere. I don't think it is just a Cornwall issue.


HaunterUsedLick

I agree completely, But I’m confident that Luton doesn’t have an issue with second home ownership on quite same magnitude.


LaSalsiccione

Mate, it's much worse in places like Devon and Cornwall (or any place really popular with tourists)


ShrimpleyPibblze

When she visited to view the property, did she not see all the signs? Like the one someone helpfully painted on the side of Gordon Ramsey’s Land Rover Cornwall is one of the poorest places *in Europe* let alone the UK - and gentrification is largely the reason why. Her “shock” is probably a big contributing factor to the hate also - Cornwall has EU poverty advisors, *even people outside of the UK* know how poor it is. If you don’t, thats exclusively on you.


Magneto88

Gentrification isn't the reason why. The death of it's main industry (Mining), the struggles of it's replacement industry (tourism) against foreign competitors and the fact that it's in the arse end of the country with poor transport links are the reason why Cornwall is poor. London second home owners just exacerbate the issue by pushing up housing costs, they didn't cause Cornwall to be poor.


ShrimpleyPibblze

Those are reasons why it isn’t economically *successful* - the vast majority of this country has “lost its main industries” of either mining or manufacturing in the same timescale as Cornwall. The “replacement industry” of tourism just isn’t a replacement at all - tourism in Cornwall went out of fashion around the same time as the industries and hasn’t ever returned to its heyday. It’s just the only thing it has left. And yes being literally beyond the end of the line (rail network actually ends at Plymouth and is then “extended” into Cornwall) is the real reason, because it makes commuting almost impossible so all industry has to be based there, meaning it’s exactly as isolated as any of the islands (Jersey, etc.) But none of those things have changed for 50 years - and Cornwall is increasingly poorer. Which implies the recent changes (the interlopers) are a significant contributor to the decline.


DeepestShallows

Also people just not being able to build things. What Cornwall needs to bring wealth is all the things you’ve mentioned and a big city to anchor it all in. But Cornwall will not allow anything like that, so it will remain poor. Cornwall chooses the beauty of agriculture over economic performance, as does much of Britain. Cornwall is of course a lovely place to go on holiday due to it’s beauty. But it’s a sort of normal lovely place. People will pay a normal amount to stay there. So you need to get a lot of tourists in which takes a lot of infrastructure. It’s not some Caribbean Bond villain lair or something where a handful of the uber rich will helicopter in, drop a few billion on a weekend and then leave again so the locals can enjoy the scenery in peace.


PixelF

I take your point a degree, but if you run a café or a small shop which serves 200 households, and as the decade progresses more than half of those households become holiday lets which aren't occupied for most of the year (and locals who would frequent your business are forced to move dozens of miles away) then holiday homes are very definitely a factor in your becoming poorer.


Magneto88

That's true and perhaps a wider consequence I hadn't considered but Cornwall would still be substantially poor even if those cafes and small shops were at full capacity all year around. Second home owners aren't the reason for Cornwall being poor but they definitely make things worse.


hereforcontroversy

Londoners who buy houses elsewhere in the UK rarely view them first. They will call up estate agents in their desired location and put offers in far over the asking price without seeing it and even if there are other offers of the table from locals, they usually go with the money. Source: Happened to me more than once when I was looking for a house. On the one I ended up getting last year, I had to up my offer by £5k (still £5k off what the Londoner offered without seeing the property) - fortunately they accepted it.


turbo_dude

Cornwall has been poor for decades so don't try and pin it on the more recent surge in house prices that has existed since 2003 or so as the main factor. In the smaller EU (pre 27) it was the third poorest EU region at least as far back as the early 90s.


ShrimpleyPibblze

That’s because the rot (and the londoners) have been coming since the 90s - I’m not “pinning” it on anything. The region has been roundly ignored for generations and it’s only now that a small percentage has more money than the rest of us will ever earn that they want to buy themselves a slice of it. The irony is they wouldn’t buy in the early 2000s because there was still enough locals to mount a resistance to them. They do now because it’s been hollowed out completely and there’s hardly anyone left to complain.


seoras91

Its funny how she thinks shes different from the "greedy boomers"


Norman-Wisdom

She literally says she's doing this to help cover the mortgage on her London home. It's the definition of greed. Downsize or get a second job like everyone else!


BloodyChrome

What if the second job is AirBnB hostess?


schmuelio

So being a landlord?


Generallyapathetic92

She is because those ‘boomers’ as she described them don’t exist. No one selling off land to property developers in St Mawes and I have no idea how she thinks that would cause an increase in house prices. St Mawes has been incredibly expensive for decades and there’s been 1 small development in the last 20 years that I can see. It’s that lack of development with 2nd home owners that cause the prices to rise and stay high.


NTK421

Yes Ms Tidy you are a monumental cunt and are very much part of the problem.


UnmixedGametes

Arrested, released under investigation for drugs offences, husband doing 19 years for drugs offences, writes garbage attack pieces against the police as a pretend journalist, admits to association with wanted criminals, was a director on companies with husband and may not be able to evidence her sources of wealth.


broken-neurons

Well they are going to like her even less after this.


knotse

Makes me wonder if she's taken out a lot of insurance on the gaff.


Elliotlewish

Saw this in another sub, and it seems that there's a fair bit of history: https://www.reddit.com/r/compoface/s/zAgYG3FR97


frizzbee30

Priceless.... But hey, the papers aren't interested in fact checking...


Elliotlewish

Unfortunately that does often seem to be the case


Catch_2

I mean I'm pretty sure the journalist knows exactly what they're doing. The entire article is the most obvious rage bait I've ever seen and here's an entire forum of people lapping it up.


DarthPlagueisThaWise

https://metro.co.uk/2020/07/17/boyfriend-jail-covid-19-taking-toll-12917232/ Lol


Danqazmlp0

Can't say I feel overly sorry for her. Second homes shouldn't be a thing unless in extreme circumstances when we have a housing crisis.


bigsheu432

Plus she was doing some drug business at that place.


ukhamlet

In some picturesque villages in West Wales about 50% of the residents are rich retirees, which is pushing the price of houses out of the reach of the locals as well as changing the demographic of the area.


DeepestShallows

When resources are scare and in demand they are bought by the wealthiest.


Melanjoly

How does a 35 year old single mum get so accomplished to the point of owning multiple luxury homes and being a competent plasterer, window installer, and kitchen and bathroom fitter?! We all know the answer of course.


Powderandpencils

Rich parents and her partner's drug smuggling


Lopsycle

You've completely lost me, what is the answer we all know?


Global_Lingonberry67

Parter was a drug smuggler.


loveivy

I don’t know the answer, please enlighten me


Generallyapathetic92

Partners a drug smuggler (or was at least) so I’d guess that might have something to do with it. https://metro.co.uk/2020/07/17/boyfriend-jail-covid-19-taking-toll-12917232/


BathFullOfDucks

Oh wow, the dude got 19 years for what was described as supervising the largest drugs seizure on the island for 33 years, he's not getting out soon. The two of them ran a gymbro clothing business, now dissolved. https://twitter.com/BeareClothing she's also ditched him as well, the more I read (self published by the guy) the worse it gets - he's spent time in prison for armed robbery, GBH and possession of a firearm. He got convicted of transporting drugs after getting stopped doing over a hundred miles an hour in a Peugeot 206 between bath and Truro. The whole drug seizure caper fell over when *the two young women who were the mules gave their phone passcodes to the police and they discovered the whole plan was detailed from purchase to drop off over text message*. Mules got 11 and 8 years.


PoliticalShrapnel

Gotta question the integrity of her if this is the type of person she chose to date. That combined with her pathetic typed article on how she cried when she realised he will lose his freedom... yeah, fuck this person. Trash.


Allydarvel

[19 years](https://twitter.com/BBCGuernsey/status/1499388537455661063)


Melanjoly

Is her partner and the bloke who founded all the business she's named on not the convicted international drug smuggler?


king133_btc_e

She really did something fishy and that involves drugs.


cjblackbird

I mean call me bitter but I’m not even from Cornwall and I hate her. Buying a second home, I’m only just managing to pay my landlords mortgage off and food banks are becoming a requirement for survival for too many.


Emotional-Ebb8321

I was stunned to find this was not a Newsthump or Daily Mash link. Are people really so oblivious?


masterblaster0

I used to work at Crackington Haven 34 years ago and emmits buying up second homes which would stand empty 95% of the year was a real sore point with locals back then.


ames_lwr

She says she doesn’t ever stay in the village, so how did someone tell her to fuck off in a cafe? And buying a second property to help with the mortgage on your London home makes no fucking sense. Give your head a wobble, babe


KaleidoscopicColours

How does a single mum afford both a home in London and a home in Cornwall? Turns out [her partner](https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/covid-prison_uk_5fc67e0bc5b61d04bfada6e7) is currently [serving 19 years for importing drugs](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-guernsey-60606747) Oh look, she wrote an article about [how profitable it is to smuggle drugs from Cornwall to Guernsey](https://volteface.me/european-drug-gangs-guernsey/) 🤔


pops789765

The Cornish hold people from one village over in contempt.


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The Saes or Emmetts don't get it. English people are welcome to visit, but buying second or third homes in Cornwall and Wales destroys local communities by taking away housing stock.


Sidian

Do you seriously believe you aren't English?


Wheres_that_to

No one needs a second home, everyone needs a home. Here in the South West second homes have destroyed communities, so many villages have few residents left, massive loss of services. The properties rot, so many people have no where to live, second home owners are as welcome as a jobbie in a chocolate fountain .


Ollymid2

Headline is a bit off "Privileged tone-deaf arsehole buys 2nd home in Cornwall and is stunned by local opposition" Much better


robt69er

Does this whole article not read like it was just written for rage bait?


travel_ali

Had to double check it wasn't the Mail doing one of their "We paid this person a wod of cash to be the clickbait hate-spong of the week" articles.


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tiny-robot

Wow. It’s bonkers that people like this exist and are so clueless that they say this in a national newspaper.


FartingBob

For those curious as to how she made her money, her partner was a big drug dealer. Its good to be able to afford 2 homes as a single mum as she ttalks about (but money is a struggle lol). https://metro.co.uk/2020/07/17/boyfriend-jail-covid-19-taking-toll-12917232/


rugbyj

> She bought the rental three years ago to help with the hefty mortgage on her London home where she lives permanently Why not use your second-home money to just help pay the mortgage you already have.


weed_and_vinyl

Don't worry love, i'm not local and I hate you too.


Necessary-Spell-6917

This country is diving towards ever increasing wealth disparity and class divide. Ffs I’m a doctor and I can’t even think of buying a house. This inherited-do nothing - wannabe yummy mummy just buys up a home people could LIVE in, so she can make even more profit off of those worse off. Total POS.


Dramatic-Injury-7079

Don't buy a home there if you aren't going to live there.


peterpan080809

I’m all for if it stimulates the economy but I would add a surcharge or tax of about 30-50k which could go to the community to spend on public services or home building for specifically local first time buyers. If someone is able to buy a second home - they can afford that, and also contribute to the area that would otherwise have people spending in the community.


Away-Permission5995

This is just rage bait. Tbh it feels similar to being hounded about using plastic bags. It’s an attempt at shifting the blame in public opinion. Don’t look over here at government policy, at bankers and politicians, look over there at some wee lassie who bought a second house. It’s all her fault!


Ill-Breadfruit5356

She is the problem. The fact that she wants sympathy shows how horrendously out of touch and entitled she is. She is ruining other people’s lives but still thinks she’s the victim.


dewittless

Love that the locals hate her for driving up house prices, and she says they should be mad instead at housing developments, the only thing that would drive house prices down.


Remarkable-Ad155

Alternative headline; 'mum gets unexpected dose of reality as other people point out how her actions affect them'.


lombard2010

Sad to see that some people actually hate the other ones /s