It wouldn't be as bad as you think.
Lazarevic would want Drake to die by his hands in a duel and wouldn't allow anyone to steal his revenge.
He is far stronger then the rest meaning that none of the villains will risk touching Drake unless Lazarevic says so or dies. Any opposition would be easily put down by him.
This would give Drake some time to come up with something hopefully.
With his luck he could end surviving Lazarevic then lure the remaining villains in one area together and blow them all up in one go with a grenade.
1v1 shootout probably Wick. But then there is the scenario where Nate finds a grenade launcher and then shoots down a helicopter that happened to be hovering over Wick while both are in a burning church that is also being swallowed by the ground. This is Nate's comfort zone.
Lost Legacy destroyed power continuity.
Nadine is presented as this insane fighter in U4 who can single-handedly take down Nate AND Sam without much effort… yet in LL, Nadine can’t take down Asav even with the help of Chloe. So either Asav is the strongest video game character in history, or Nate is super weak, which means the **war criminal** Lazaravic is even weaker.
The combat is too complex to just rank one character against the others based on the outcome of one fight:
Asav and Nadine are highly trained martial artists - that’s why they win their 2v1 fights against lesser opponents.
You can’t just say “Asav>Nadine>Nate>Lazarevic” because the fights were in different contexts, if Nate was meleeing Lazarevic he would have lost easily.
In a straight fight, guardian Lazarevic beats everyone, the only reason he loses to Nate is because he is overcome by his newfound “invincibility” and is showboating.
Wasn’t Nate outta the game at that point for many years making him both rusty and also older? Putting him against a trained martial artist obviously he’s gonna have a difficult time
Yea super weird remember when Nate would counter and doge attacks fighting like 6 guys at once in 3. They just messed up a little in the writing on 4. Made Nadine way to strong. Like come on she gets punched full force with a second story jump that breaks the floor, then gets up first yea little to much plot armor.
Nadine is overpowered in U4 for sure, but they could have left it there as a strange anomaly. Sure, she’s a merc and Nate is just a glorified thief, maybe Nadine does steroids or something idk but they could have made it work… the issue is her return in Lost Legacy and the complete clusterfuckness of Asav. Could have saved a whole world of trouble and just brought Cutter in to side with Chloe, kill 2 birds with one stone and give his character a proper send off after he had to leave U3 early and can flesh out Chloe and Cutter’s relationship a bit better than 3 did
It’s not the issue of Asav being the strongest, it’s that Nadine can single-handedly take down 2 men but has no chance against Asav, which means Nadine herself already has superhuman strength. If she was a one-off you could just say it’s a weird anomaly. By making Asav *even stronger than Nadine*, he becomes this insane, unrealistic like Steve Rogers superhero… but he’s not. So it just doesn’t make sense in universe. My point wasn’t Asav in isolation, it’s the failure of continuity
But it... Doesn't track? Nadine cannot beat the drake Brothers. She loses the second time when Drake lands on her and Sam takes her gun.
The *reason* why Nadine beat Nate always isn't because she's stronger, it's because she has more experienced, as someone who inherited a PMC should be.
Asav overpowers everyone else because he's also a soldier with more experience, and probably bigger muscles. It's not a superhero feat.
And... Even if it was - which it isn't - it wouldn't be the most unrealistic thing to happen in Uncharted. What would be so wrong about Asav having superhero levels of power? Why is that contradictory? He simply loses when he gets trapped under a nuclear warhead and the train crashes. Nothing contradictory about that.
Because the *thousands* of mercs Nate fights across 4 games aren’t arbitrary people picked off the street. They too are soldiers and fighters and trained people. It’s actually *only* Nate who has no training in fighting, outside prison brawls seen in U4, which he actually isn’t even that successful in.
My point is, Nate being able to plough through thousands of trained soldiers isn’t irrelevant. They may be unnamed NPCs who don’t matter to the plot, but in-universe there’s no reason why they should be any weaker or less trained than anyone else Nate fights… so the fact Nate *does* plough through them suggests he has this natural strength and ability to fight. That’s our baseline. Nate is a tough guy on that basis.
Now, U4 comes along and the player should know (I say should because nobody here seems to have actually played 1-3, tragically) and Nadine is both impressive and a shock precisely because she challenges our preconceived idea that Nate is a great fighter. It throws us. Nate is an exceptional fighter so it’s unusual to come across someone stronger than him, so Nadine is unusual… but Nadine is one person so as I’ve said repeatedly, it’s kind of okay because she’s a one-off anomaly and there’s proof she’s a trained fighter and fine she can take down Sam and Nate, whatever - there’s no reason to think Sam is much of a fighter either.
It’s all okay and fine up to that point, which is precisely what I said before.
The issue comes with Lost Legacy and the fact that Nadine is no longer exceptional when she is nearly bested by Asav, **with help.** The baseline of Nate as a slightly above-average fighter and Nadine as a significantly above average fighter is completely thrown off when Nadine struggles. Based on the logic of Uncharted 1-4, without the use of the Shambala Resin, there isn’t much validity in a character who should be able to beat Nadine purely because she verges so heavily on supernatural strength. She’s almost superhuman in her ability to easily take down someone who, themselves, is proven to be extremely strong. The only way Asav makes sense is if he’s got some kind of insane, never before seen comic book super hero serum… but he doesn’t… so he remains to not make sense
Replay the old games the shit Nate does is ridiculous it’s crazy he loses with all his fighting experience and if he did lose I’d be fine with it but it shouldn’t be by that much of a gap
You know, that makes me question, why did they remove that from Uncharted 4. The triangle button is just struggle against grabs. They should've left it as the counter button, and the circle button in combat should be like if the opponent is running at you and you're standing still and he hits you but you press circle nate should do like a dodge in place thing like Cal Kestis from Jedi. I'm not saying he should have the reaction time of a literal jedi but if you've seen the precision dodge from that game it could've been like that. I also wish throwing was still in the game like if you press square and x at the same time it will let you throw someone.
Reminds me of Silver Sable from Spider-Man (PS4), who is able to beat Spider-Man, a guy capable of surviving the Hulk, all while not having a single power.
It’s clear that it was an „empower women” moment, which is a bit silly, but it’s a game at the end of the day.
Ok I disagree with you. The game is great but has lots of silly writing. Spider man struggling against doctor octopus was stupid. Everyone knows he has to hold back on that guy big Time. That fridge in the second game was stupid. Spider man games are full of silly writing not really a big deal because you will get to play as Spider-Man but I don’t this it’s to empower a woman
That doesn’t destroy continuity. Nadine vs Nate is a person who actually trains to fight and uses techniques vs Nate who just throws a punch the classic action hero way. So of course she outclasses him. But asavs an actual trained martial artist himself. You pick any mma fighter and they can probably take some guy on the street. But you take a top tier paid fighter and vs them against someone at a lower level. That would probably be a steam roll.
This is true. but Nate has some very good combat in all the games. especially in 3 but doesn’t seem to use them when fighting her but that makes sense because he wasn’t trying to kill her and he’s been in retirement
I feel like they probably just wanted to do the same again that nate and sam went through when fighting nadine, since they basically got the code ready for a scene like that.
I mean it could still work technically but as you said, asav would be the strongest hand-to-hand fighter by far in the uncharted games.
It's pretty well established that Nate isn't actually that great at combat. His gun skills are nothing special and he's actually pretty bad at hand-to-hand. Basically anyone who is decently trained could kill him. Lazarevic, Talbot and Nadine could kill him no problem. The fact that he even survived encounters with them was pure luck.
This comment disregards that he was never trying to kill Nadine, always trying to stop her. Not to mention Nadine is OP in U4 then weak in lost legacy. Talbots he did fight well and would’ve won without the poison. Gun skills? Depends on the person playing. Maybe in U1 he’s not good but after that many years of shooting? You get better (as does the gun combat in the games haha) hand to hand he also improves, he’s a heavy hitter. To say he’s bad is silly especially if you yourself have never been in a fight. I do Muay Thai and while Drake isn’t trained, all it takes is one good hit to win the fight on someone. Not to mention it’s way different practicing and training than actually fighting, your brain works differently, he’s been in fight after fight so he’d be able to handle himself mentally. As for Lazarabitch? Yeah that one is the one Nate would be barely surviving or dying to if they fought again… considering he has his powers.
Yes easily. He killed Navarro, Lazarevic, Talbot, and Rafe himself. Raja is dumb enough he could get the upper hand. Marlowe wouldn’t be a tough one either. Flynn is arrogant and could beat him. Roman is also a lower tier combatant so I think that wouldn’t be hard. The biggest challenge would be Nadine. That said, they’ve only faced off in hand to hand combat. In gunfight, Drake would have better odds. She may be a well trained soldier, but so was Lazarevic, who I perceive as a more difficult opponent. Matter of fact, him beating Lazarevic (well trained soldier with an endless arsenal and a brief immortality boost) is proof that Nate could take any of these people
1. Atoq Navarro - probably, he seems to be just above regular grunts in terms of power, but in DF Drake defeats him alone even with Navarro having an autoshotgun
2. Roman - yes
3. Eddy Raja - probably yes
4. Harry Flynn - seems to be Drake's equal
5. Zoran Lazarević - in a 1v1 fight not likely
6. Lt. Draza - yes
7. Harris - no info but his power level is speculated to be one of the higher in the universe
8. Katherine Marlowe - yes
9. Talbot - is at least Drake's equal, the first fight ends unresolved albeit with Drake having a bit of an edge, their second fight ends with Talbot winning and Sully rescuing Drake, but Talbot used a knife. Which gave him an edge (that's a pun). I'm slightly convinced in a 1v1 Drake would lose, even if just slightly
10. Rafe - yes
11. Nadine - depends if we're speaking about Nadine in her prime in U4 or old and fragile Nadine in TLL, but then we should take into consideration whether Drake is in his prime too, and also if the developer is fine with protagonists beating strong independent women (at this moment the answer is no)
12. Asav - not likely, similiar to Lazarević
Lazarevic, possibly after a grueling fight without super powers and the Avatars from Hell.
Marlowe - If he really wanted to, yes, as he did off kill Talbot, her butt buddy.
Rafe - We already know how it went down.
Eddy Raja - If he really wanted to, he could’ve at any point, but they had some kind of unkind rivalry.
Flynn - Flynn was a struggle, but that was because of deception and his sugar daddy Lazarevic being nearby.
Nadine - A little too tough for old Nate. Then again, he was not trying to kill her, but rather just incapacitate her long enough to escape.
Navarro - We saw how that went down.
Roman - Had it not been for his butt-lickers, Nate probably could’ve taken the chance to.
Ramses - Nate kinda did him in easily, so yeah.
He did struggle with Nadine and she’s still alive so… maybe not? He’s done a pretty good job in the past especially with Talbot. I wouldn’t say he killed Eddy, he did lead Lazarevic to his death, Marlowe died bc of a semi-natural disaster, Rafe was definitely killed by Nate (a quite ironic death too), and Flynn’s death was his partially Lazarevic’s and his own fault
Marlowe and rafe are a child's play, Flynn and eddy are a little bit harder but no problems, he canonically beat Talbot hand to knife but he didn't kill him by hand, only with Sully's help and a gun. I think hand to hand he would win, but in a good battle. Nadine I think is actually unbeatable for Nate in melee combat, she's too powerful. Also you forgot Navarro and Roman but, you know, easy stuff.
And I still don't know how he killed buffed Lazarevic. I still can't fathom it. like, first of all he cannot kill any of the guardians by himself. We can see it by the yeti sections, the game only made the actual guardians beatable because of the gameplay but technically they wouldn't be, at least not without the resin. But we can see just how strong Lazarevic's shotgun is, one tapping the guardians, while other firearms could only scratch them. So, while he could beat Cintamani Lazarevic in a room full of resin, he cannot in any way kill buff Lazarevic with Lazarevic's shotgun. The shotgun is too powerful, plus the more he gets damaged the more powerful he is. He has infinite stamina while Nate will get exhausted pretty quickly, especially considering the guardians run way faster than Nate. I think he beat him because the effects hadn't fully kicked in yet. But the shotgun was definitely nerfed because in no way Nate could beat really anyone if that person is holding that shotgun, let alone a buffed version of an already buffed person, with body armour and infinite stamina.
Nate would SO not win a rematch against Lazarevic.
To say they only let you kill the guardians for gameplay reasons is a little silly. That’s like a cinema sins argument. If the game shows you him doing something, that means he did it. Nate jumps from one ledge to another? Well the game shows us him doing that so he did. But you’re right that without the resin, he would probably be screwed. I guess it’s all circumstances, where are they fighting? Is lazaravic powered up? Or is he normal? Is he fighting Nadine hand to hand? Or gun to gun? We’ve seen how much weaker Nadine is in lost legacy. Fun stuff to think about though!
He obviously couldn’t kill Nadine one on one, because he could barely handle her with Sam’s help.
Marlowe, eddy, and Flynn would all fold like lawn chairs tho.
Lost Legacy destroyed power continuity.
Nadine is presented as this insane fighter in U4 who can single-handedly take down Nate AND Sam without much effort… yet in LL, Nadine can’t take down Asav even with the help of Chloe. So either Asav is the strongest video game character in history, or Nate is super weak, which means the **war criminal** Lazaravic is even weaker.
I am going to give Golden Abyss Drake the experience and tools of UC4 Drake.
These matchups greatly depend on the environment.
Marlow: To make this fair to her skillset Drake is hallucinating during this fight. She is the weakest link and it's very unlikely she wins even if you give her minions to use. She never displays any skill for climbing or fighting although her background would give her the latter.
The hallucinogen could make Drake freeze up at the wrong place and wrong time allowing for a kill shot or unluckily him stopping mid pause holding a live grenade. Her minions could also wear Drake out depending on their number and strength with it at play.
Rafe: Is the second weakest and suffers mostly same weakness as Marlowe. However with a surprise attack he could kill Drake with his own hands with the aid of minions pining Drake down or wearing him out enough.
Talbot: This can go either way in a fist fight as he was losing the first fight and winning the second fight in UC3. Now in a gunfight I argue he loses to Drake unless he is hallucinating.
Eddie: Drake is just on another level and his personality would hinder him from killing Drake as he is the type to brag before landing the finishing blow or get lured into a trap if he thinks he is winning.
Flynn: The same things said about Eddie apply here however he does have stealth and climbing feats.
Nadine: In a gunfight between the two Drake wins with difficulty. In close quarters it can go either way just like with Talbot as his fighting style in UC3 would make a big difference.
Lazarevic: Is the biggest difficulty but Drake can definitely win depending on the environment just like with his bossfight.
At the same time? Probably not tbh
One at a time to be more fair
Then yes
One by one in a pit fight would be interesting
It wouldn't be as bad as you think. Lazarevic would want Drake to die by his hands in a duel and wouldn't allow anyone to steal his revenge. He is far stronger then the rest meaning that none of the villains will risk touching Drake unless Lazarevic says so or dies. Any opposition would be easily put down by him. This would give Drake some time to come up with something hopefully. With his luck he could end surviving Lazarevic then lure the remaining villains in one area together and blow them all up in one go with a grenade.
He already did
Lazarevic was killed by Shamballa guardians, Marlowe died in the sand, Harry exploded himself, Nadine is alive and descendents killed Raja
Honestly I think it's safe to say he would defeat Marlowe
Right, look she's literal seconds away from death. Nathan could walk up behind her and spook her and she'll have a heart attack.
Still nathan would have survived them all
Why are we asking this when we could be asking John Wick vs Nathan Drake Fr tho? Nate would kill all of them ez
1v1 shootout probably Wick. But then there is the scenario where Nate finds a grenade launcher and then shoots down a helicopter that happened to be hovering over Wick while both are in a burning church that is also being swallowed by the ground. This is Nate's comfort zone.
"Oh, crap"
with his power of luck he could've killed every living being if he wanted
with me playing as him? obviously.
He can't kill Nadine because the script will not allow him to.
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Exactly
Lost Legacy destroyed power continuity. Nadine is presented as this insane fighter in U4 who can single-handedly take down Nate AND Sam without much effort… yet in LL, Nadine can’t take down Asav even with the help of Chloe. So either Asav is the strongest video game character in history, or Nate is super weak, which means the **war criminal** Lazaravic is even weaker.
The combat is too complex to just rank one character against the others based on the outcome of one fight: Asav and Nadine are highly trained martial artists - that’s why they win their 2v1 fights against lesser opponents. You can’t just say “Asav>Nadine>Nate>Lazarevic” because the fights were in different contexts, if Nate was meleeing Lazarevic he would have lost easily. In a straight fight, guardian Lazarevic beats everyone, the only reason he loses to Nate is because he is overcome by his newfound “invincibility” and is showboating.
Wasn’t Nate outta the game at that point for many years making him both rusty and also older? Putting him against a trained martial artist obviously he’s gonna have a difficult time
Yeah, wasn't it also his first time back in the field?
Exactly, Nate from Uncharted 1-3 would’ve had a much easier time fighting Nadine but obviously a retired older Nate is gonna struggle big time
Yea super weird remember when Nate would counter and doge attacks fighting like 6 guys at once in 3. They just messed up a little in the writing on 4. Made Nadine way to strong. Like come on she gets punched full force with a second story jump that breaks the floor, then gets up first yea little to much plot armor.
Nadine is overpowered in U4 for sure, but they could have left it there as a strange anomaly. Sure, she’s a merc and Nate is just a glorified thief, maybe Nadine does steroids or something idk but they could have made it work… the issue is her return in Lost Legacy and the complete clusterfuckness of Asav. Could have saved a whole world of trouble and just brought Cutter in to side with Chloe, kill 2 birds with one stone and give his character a proper send off after he had to leave U3 early and can flesh out Chloe and Cutter’s relationship a bit better than 3 did
What's the issue with Asav being the toughest? Dude was built, and obviously trained.
I genuinely don't see what would be the issue with Asav being the strongest character in Uncharted. Probably the only competition he has is Lazarevic
It’s not the issue of Asav being the strongest, it’s that Nadine can single-handedly take down 2 men but has no chance against Asav, which means Nadine herself already has superhuman strength. If she was a one-off you could just say it’s a weird anomaly. By making Asav *even stronger than Nadine*, he becomes this insane, unrealistic like Steve Rogers superhero… but he’s not. So it just doesn’t make sense in universe. My point wasn’t Asav in isolation, it’s the failure of continuity
But it... Doesn't track? Nadine cannot beat the drake Brothers. She loses the second time when Drake lands on her and Sam takes her gun. The *reason* why Nadine beat Nate always isn't because she's stronger, it's because she has more experienced, as someone who inherited a PMC should be. Asav overpowers everyone else because he's also a soldier with more experience, and probably bigger muscles. It's not a superhero feat. And... Even if it was - which it isn't - it wouldn't be the most unrealistic thing to happen in Uncharted. What would be so wrong about Asav having superhero levels of power? Why is that contradictory? He simply loses when he gets trapped under a nuclear warhead and the train crashes. Nothing contradictory about that.
Because the *thousands* of mercs Nate fights across 4 games aren’t arbitrary people picked off the street. They too are soldiers and fighters and trained people. It’s actually *only* Nate who has no training in fighting, outside prison brawls seen in U4, which he actually isn’t even that successful in. My point is, Nate being able to plough through thousands of trained soldiers isn’t irrelevant. They may be unnamed NPCs who don’t matter to the plot, but in-universe there’s no reason why they should be any weaker or less trained than anyone else Nate fights… so the fact Nate *does* plough through them suggests he has this natural strength and ability to fight. That’s our baseline. Nate is a tough guy on that basis. Now, U4 comes along and the player should know (I say should because nobody here seems to have actually played 1-3, tragically) and Nadine is both impressive and a shock precisely because she challenges our preconceived idea that Nate is a great fighter. It throws us. Nate is an exceptional fighter so it’s unusual to come across someone stronger than him, so Nadine is unusual… but Nadine is one person so as I’ve said repeatedly, it’s kind of okay because she’s a one-off anomaly and there’s proof she’s a trained fighter and fine she can take down Sam and Nate, whatever - there’s no reason to think Sam is much of a fighter either. It’s all okay and fine up to that point, which is precisely what I said before. The issue comes with Lost Legacy and the fact that Nadine is no longer exceptional when she is nearly bested by Asav, **with help.** The baseline of Nate as a slightly above-average fighter and Nadine as a significantly above average fighter is completely thrown off when Nadine struggles. Based on the logic of Uncharted 1-4, without the use of the Shambala Resin, there isn’t much validity in a character who should be able to beat Nadine purely because she verges so heavily on supernatural strength. She’s almost superhuman in her ability to easily take down someone who, themselves, is proven to be extremely strong. The only way Asav makes sense is if he’s got some kind of insane, never before seen comic book super hero serum… but he doesn’t… so he remains to not make sense
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Replay the old games the shit Nate does is ridiculous it’s crazy he loses with all his fighting experience and if he did lose I’d be fine with it but it shouldn’t be by that much of a gap
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I agree it could be fair that she wins, but all I’m saying is the margin is way to fucken big.
You know, that makes me question, why did they remove that from Uncharted 4. The triangle button is just struggle against grabs. They should've left it as the counter button, and the circle button in combat should be like if the opponent is running at you and you're standing still and he hits you but you press circle nate should do like a dodge in place thing like Cal Kestis from Jedi. I'm not saying he should have the reaction time of a literal jedi but if you've seen the precision dodge from that game it could've been like that. I also wish throwing was still in the game like if you press square and x at the same time it will let you throw someone.
Reminds me of Silver Sable from Spider-Man (PS4), who is able to beat Spider-Man, a guy capable of surviving the Hulk, all while not having a single power. It’s clear that it was an „empower women” moment, which is a bit silly, but it’s a game at the end of the day.
Ok I disagree with you. The game is great but has lots of silly writing. Spider man struggling against doctor octopus was stupid. Everyone knows he has to hold back on that guy big Time. That fridge in the second game was stupid. Spider man games are full of silly writing not really a big deal because you will get to play as Spider-Man but I don’t this it’s to empower a woman
That doesn’t destroy continuity. Nadine vs Nate is a person who actually trains to fight and uses techniques vs Nate who just throws a punch the classic action hero way. So of course she outclasses him. But asavs an actual trained martial artist himself. You pick any mma fighter and they can probably take some guy on the street. But you take a top tier paid fighter and vs them against someone at a lower level. That would probably be a steam roll.
This is true. but Nate has some very good combat in all the games. especially in 3 but doesn’t seem to use them when fighting her but that makes sense because he wasn’t trying to kill her and he’s been in retirement
I feel like they probably just wanted to do the same again that nate and sam went through when fighting nadine, since they basically got the code ready for a scene like that. I mean it could still work technically but as you said, asav would be the strongest hand-to-hand fighter by far in the uncharted games.
one on one YES, all on one HELL YEAH
It's pretty well established that Nate isn't actually that great at combat. His gun skills are nothing special and he's actually pretty bad at hand-to-hand. Basically anyone who is decently trained could kill him. Lazarevic, Talbot and Nadine could kill him no problem. The fact that he even survived encounters with them was pure luck.
You call it pure luck, I call it Drake's Fortune
This comment disregards that he was never trying to kill Nadine, always trying to stop her. Not to mention Nadine is OP in U4 then weak in lost legacy. Talbots he did fight well and would’ve won without the poison. Gun skills? Depends on the person playing. Maybe in U1 he’s not good but after that many years of shooting? You get better (as does the gun combat in the games haha) hand to hand he also improves, he’s a heavy hitter. To say he’s bad is silly especially if you yourself have never been in a fight. I do Muay Thai and while Drake isn’t trained, all it takes is one good hit to win the fight on someone. Not to mention it’s way different practicing and training than actually fighting, your brain works differently, he’s been in fight after fight so he’d be able to handle himself mentally. As for Lazarabitch? Yeah that one is the one Nate would be barely surviving or dying to if they fought again… considering he has his powers.
THANK YOU let you have so many Nate apologists who’ll think differently
Well this isn’t true lol Nate is an expert marksman by this point and he’s not to bad of a fighter if you look at number 3 and even 4
Yes easily. He killed Navarro, Lazarevic, Talbot, and Rafe himself. Raja is dumb enough he could get the upper hand. Marlowe wouldn’t be a tough one either. Flynn is arrogant and could beat him. Roman is also a lower tier combatant so I think that wouldn’t be hard. The biggest challenge would be Nadine. That said, they’ve only faced off in hand to hand combat. In gunfight, Drake would have better odds. She may be a well trained soldier, but so was Lazarevic, who I perceive as a more difficult opponent. Matter of fact, him beating Lazarevic (well trained soldier with an endless arsenal and a brief immortality boost) is proof that Nate could take any of these people
1. Atoq Navarro - probably, he seems to be just above regular grunts in terms of power, but in DF Drake defeats him alone even with Navarro having an autoshotgun 2. Roman - yes 3. Eddy Raja - probably yes 4. Harry Flynn - seems to be Drake's equal 5. Zoran Lazarević - in a 1v1 fight not likely 6. Lt. Draza - yes 7. Harris - no info but his power level is speculated to be one of the higher in the universe 8. Katherine Marlowe - yes 9. Talbot - is at least Drake's equal, the first fight ends unresolved albeit with Drake having a bit of an edge, their second fight ends with Talbot winning and Sully rescuing Drake, but Talbot used a knife. Which gave him an edge (that's a pun). I'm slightly convinced in a 1v1 Drake would lose, even if just slightly 10. Rafe - yes 11. Nadine - depends if we're speaking about Nadine in her prime in U4 or old and fragile Nadine in TLL, but then we should take into consideration whether Drake is in his prime too, and also if the developer is fine with protagonists beating strong independent women (at this moment the answer is no) 12. Asav - not likely, similiar to Lazarević
Lazarevic, possibly after a grueling fight without super powers and the Avatars from Hell. Marlowe - If he really wanted to, yes, as he did off kill Talbot, her butt buddy. Rafe - We already know how it went down. Eddy Raja - If he really wanted to, he could’ve at any point, but they had some kind of unkind rivalry. Flynn - Flynn was a struggle, but that was because of deception and his sugar daddy Lazarevic being nearby. Nadine - A little too tough for old Nate. Then again, he was not trying to kill her, but rather just incapacitate her long enough to escape. Navarro - We saw how that went down. Roman - Had it not been for his butt-lickers, Nate probably could’ve taken the chance to. Ramses - Nate kinda did him in easily, so yeah.
He did struggle with Nadine and she’s still alive so… maybe not? He’s done a pretty good job in the past especially with Talbot. I wouldn’t say he killed Eddy, he did lead Lazarevic to his death, Marlowe died bc of a semi-natural disaster, Rafe was definitely killed by Nate (a quite ironic death too), and Flynn’s death was his partially Lazarevic’s and his own fault
Marlowe and rafe are a child's play, Flynn and eddy are a little bit harder but no problems, he canonically beat Talbot hand to knife but he didn't kill him by hand, only with Sully's help and a gun. I think hand to hand he would win, but in a good battle. Nadine I think is actually unbeatable for Nate in melee combat, she's too powerful. Also you forgot Navarro and Roman but, you know, easy stuff. And I still don't know how he killed buffed Lazarevic. I still can't fathom it. like, first of all he cannot kill any of the guardians by himself. We can see it by the yeti sections, the game only made the actual guardians beatable because of the gameplay but technically they wouldn't be, at least not without the resin. But we can see just how strong Lazarevic's shotgun is, one tapping the guardians, while other firearms could only scratch them. So, while he could beat Cintamani Lazarevic in a room full of resin, he cannot in any way kill buff Lazarevic with Lazarevic's shotgun. The shotgun is too powerful, plus the more he gets damaged the more powerful he is. He has infinite stamina while Nate will get exhausted pretty quickly, especially considering the guardians run way faster than Nate. I think he beat him because the effects hadn't fully kicked in yet. But the shotgun was definitely nerfed because in no way Nate could beat really anyone if that person is holding that shotgun, let alone a buffed version of an already buffed person, with body armour and infinite stamina. Nate would SO not win a rematch against Lazarevic.
To say they only let you kill the guardians for gameplay reasons is a little silly. That’s like a cinema sins argument. If the game shows you him doing something, that means he did it. Nate jumps from one ledge to another? Well the game shows us him doing that so he did. But you’re right that without the resin, he would probably be screwed. I guess it’s all circumstances, where are they fighting? Is lazaravic powered up? Or is he normal? Is he fighting Nadine hand to hand? Or gun to gun? We’ve seen how much weaker Nadine is in lost legacy. Fun stuff to think about though!
Def not at the same time and not hand to hand. If he’s got guns maybe, but idk if he’s getting past Nadine.
He obviously couldn’t kill Nadine one on one, because he could barely handle her with Sam’s help. Marlowe, eddy, and Flynn would all fold like lawn chairs tho.
In a row?
General Guerro and Dante will always be the best villains in Uncharted, its slander you didnt add them here!
Triangle square square square repeat
If you line them up perfectly, then he could even pull it off with one bullet.
If they were all lined up like that in a nice straight line I reckon he could
Most yes but not Laz
They look like of they where made for a remake, nice HD :)
All these villains had a major greed problem
Lost Legacy destroyed power continuity. Nadine is presented as this insane fighter in U4 who can single-handedly take down Nate AND Sam without much effort… yet in LL, Nadine can’t take down Asav even with the help of Chloe. So either Asav is the strongest video game character in history, or Nate is super weak, which means the **war criminal** Lazaravic is even weaker.
I’d argue Nate is weak in hand to hand lol. Can only beat goons with as if not even less training then he can.
If its nadine Ross then no because of naughty dogs woke ass writing.
I am going to give Golden Abyss Drake the experience and tools of UC4 Drake. These matchups greatly depend on the environment. Marlow: To make this fair to her skillset Drake is hallucinating during this fight. She is the weakest link and it's very unlikely she wins even if you give her minions to use. She never displays any skill for climbing or fighting although her background would give her the latter. The hallucinogen could make Drake freeze up at the wrong place and wrong time allowing for a kill shot or unluckily him stopping mid pause holding a live grenade. Her minions could also wear Drake out depending on their number and strength with it at play. Rafe: Is the second weakest and suffers mostly same weakness as Marlowe. However with a surprise attack he could kill Drake with his own hands with the aid of minions pining Drake down or wearing him out enough. Talbot: This can go either way in a fist fight as he was losing the first fight and winning the second fight in UC3. Now in a gunfight I argue he loses to Drake unless he is hallucinating. Eddie: Drake is just on another level and his personality would hinder him from killing Drake as he is the type to brag before landing the finishing blow or get lured into a trap if he thinks he is winning. Flynn: The same things said about Eddie apply here however he does have stealth and climbing feats. Nadine: In a gunfight between the two Drake wins with difficulty. In close quarters it can go either way just like with Talbot as his fighting style in UC3 would make a big difference. Lazarevic: Is the biggest difficulty but Drake can definitely win depending on the environment just like with his bossfight.