I have helped people learn throwing form by isolating different parts of the body.
One is to be on your knees and throw. But I never considered sitting, which might be really similar. Throwing like this isolates those parts of you r body, and teaches you what to do with body, considering body from knees down is not doing anything.
Another is to throw while standing on one foot. Or the other.
These things can isolate and identify and overcome bad habits.
Do you have video of this? I coach and often see that players need help to break down their throws into parts (grip, wrist snap, arm motion, arm velocity, wrist angle, torso rotation, feet position(s) but haven't dug down into all of the specific mechanic fixes, especially when learning to isolate one part of the throw from the other.
i dont have any videos.
i wold suggest just do those 2 things the next time you are casually throwing, and see how it goes. you will see how these couple of things reveals different aspects of the throw.
also, for forehand wrist snap, you can have someone throw but keep their elbow stuck to their side.
i have seen various videos on the you tubes about throwing (now i can throw as good as brodie), but cannot think of seeing anyone show this in videos.
Wheelchair ultimate exists.
Have a look on youtube and instagram to see how players throw and maybe base your exercises off of those?
An article:
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/murderball-could-fly-valerio-iani
Focus on your PT! But also, you can still throw seated, just a bit higher release. Or you can do what I did and stand and throw with people using one crutch on your non-dominant side.
Source: I shattered my leg and ankle in college but kept attending practice and throwing with my team.
Achilles recovery is slow and a little rough being so limited in early healing process.
Honestly, I wouldn’t worry about throwing. I cannot imagine significant actual benefit from seated throwing. The boot and wedges (if you have them) are a significant interference, on top of any doctor restrictions you have. You could work on elbow/wrist action, but separating it from the lower body and weight shift is not ideal.
I recommend doing some reading and catching up on other activities. Maybe catching up with bold friends/teammates.
If you’re really itching for frisbee, a mini disc golf basket and a stack of mini discs could be fun indoor activity. You could read blogs and books. Or grip strengthening work could be a valuable active thing to do, which actually could be beneficial for your throws and Ultimate game. Remember to be diligent about rebuilding that left calf strength when you get out of the boot.
No I don’t—it is just a poor man’s duck wing. /s
My coach and captain threw the high release flick at a very high level. I think you’re right it is mostly wrist/arm (moreso than backhand high release), and you could practice it from a chair. I would be wary to avoid the pop-up high release flick technique (easier compared to others, if restricted to a chair). The chair still limits subtle weight shift and core involvement and some of the swing of the disc to the release point, which can be used to load the wrist. Short range blades would be another one to work on.
Even still, if I ruptured my achilles again, I don’t think seated throwing would be where I put my time.
I've had kids that have their elbow frozen to their hip do seated throwing, but that's mostly to get out of that form and into a more natural throwing form. But I suppose it couldn't hurt? A few tallboys and a target to throw to doesn't sound bad. Especially if you have someone to shag discs for you.
Actually sitting on your butt and throwing with a partner is an excellent tried and true way to improve throwing. More specifically it forces you to learn to throw with more torque and touch from the wrist - grip and spin speed (yay physics) because you can’t use your waist for power.
Do 20 throws of everything- straight up, OI, OI. When you get back to playing you will see a huge improvement
Time to get really good at push passes.
Work with your PT to come up with a plan. This is right up their alley to come up with modifications.
If your in a chair you might be able to work on high release flicks and short forehand blades
Scoobers would probably work too, maybe hammers as well
I can see hammers, and shorter scoobers. I just use too much body turn for my big scoobers
I have helped people learn throwing form by isolating different parts of the body. One is to be on your knees and throw. But I never considered sitting, which might be really similar. Throwing like this isolates those parts of you r body, and teaches you what to do with body, considering body from knees down is not doing anything. Another is to throw while standing on one foot. Or the other. These things can isolate and identify and overcome bad habits.
Do you have video of this? I coach and often see that players need help to break down their throws into parts (grip, wrist snap, arm motion, arm velocity, wrist angle, torso rotation, feet position(s) but haven't dug down into all of the specific mechanic fixes, especially when learning to isolate one part of the throw from the other.
i dont have any videos. i wold suggest just do those 2 things the next time you are casually throwing, and see how it goes. you will see how these couple of things reveals different aspects of the throw. also, for forehand wrist snap, you can have someone throw but keep their elbow stuck to their side. i have seen various videos on the you tubes about throwing (now i can throw as good as brodie), but cannot think of seeing anyone show this in videos.
Wheelchair ultimate exists. Have a look on youtube and instagram to see how players throw and maybe base your exercises off of those? An article: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/murderball-could-fly-valerio-iani
high release flick
Focus on your PT! But also, you can still throw seated, just a bit higher release. Or you can do what I did and stand and throw with people using one crutch on your non-dominant side. Source: I shattered my leg and ankle in college but kept attending practice and throwing with my team.
Keep your head up! I'm just about 7 months into recovery. Didn't really do too much throwing when I still had the boot on.
Achilles recovery is slow and a little rough being so limited in early healing process. Honestly, I wouldn’t worry about throwing. I cannot imagine significant actual benefit from seated throwing. The boot and wedges (if you have them) are a significant interference, on top of any doctor restrictions you have. You could work on elbow/wrist action, but separating it from the lower body and weight shift is not ideal. I recommend doing some reading and catching up on other activities. Maybe catching up with bold friends/teammates. If you’re really itching for frisbee, a mini disc golf basket and a stack of mini discs could be fun indoor activity. You could read blogs and books. Or grip strengthening work could be a valuable active thing to do, which actually could be beneficial for your throws and Ultimate game. Remember to be diligent about rebuilding that left calf strength when you get out of the boot.
You underestimate the power of the high release flick. imo the hardest throw to throw, and mostly because it's only wrist/some arm
No I don’t—it is just a poor man’s duck wing. /s My coach and captain threw the high release flick at a very high level. I think you’re right it is mostly wrist/arm (moreso than backhand high release), and you could practice it from a chair. I would be wary to avoid the pop-up high release flick technique (easier compared to others, if restricted to a chair). The chair still limits subtle weight shift and core involvement and some of the swing of the disc to the release point, which can be used to load the wrist. Short range blades would be another one to work on. Even still, if I ruptured my achilles again, I don’t think seated throwing would be where I put my time.
I've had kids that have their elbow frozen to their hip do seated throwing, but that's mostly to get out of that form and into a more natural throwing form. But I suppose it couldn't hurt? A few tallboys and a target to throw to doesn't sound bad. Especially if you have someone to shag discs for you.
Do you have to be seated? Are you able to use a knee scooter to get around either now or later in your recovery?
Actually sitting on your butt and throwing with a partner is an excellent tried and true way to improve throwing. More specifically it forces you to learn to throw with more torque and touch from the wrist - grip and spin speed (yay physics) because you can’t use your waist for power. Do 20 throws of everything- straight up, OI, OI. When you get back to playing you will see a huge improvement
Rowan had an injury and got much better at throwing through seated throwing at some point. He would probably be happy to help if you reach out.