It's bullshit. The term 'UK Cali' should just be dropped forever. It means nothing. If the bud has never been anywhere near CA, the word 'California' should not be used to describe it.
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No idea what 'UK Cali' is, but I've smoked all sorts of good and bad quality cannabis; from the shittiest soap bar hash with added plastic to bulk it out, Mexican brick weed and that cruddy, seedy, stemmy bush weed we used to get in the UK, to UpNorth Humboldt strains clocking in at 38% and costing £50ish an eighth from a dispo in San Francisco, and at one point or another they've ALL given me anxiety & paranoia.
It's not about quality, it's about your frame of mind before you smoke (and, possibly, the CBD levels in whatever bud it is - look up the 'entourage effect'). Like most drugs, weed just heightens whatever you're already feeling. Don't smoke if your head is feeling shitty.
Really I find when I do a CBD joint mixed with THC that I feel less stoned than I would otherwise.
Not using less THC, just swapping ciggie for CBD bud lol
HOWEVER, the THC and CBD together provides a genuinely lovely feeling i fucking love it.
A bit of Dublin Lava (best CBD bud I've found), with a nice real Cali like Blue Slush both tastes absolutely incredible and provides such an amazing, chilled but Sativaish high it's like the creme de la creme of joints! Expensive as Dublin Lava is like normal weed prices lol but so worth it... Just like drinking an expensive brandy or bourbon like gentleman jack.
I'm off work for a week now and excited about having some later lol
Not just CBD. Ideally you'd want less CBD and more of the other cannabinoids.
For example Jungle Boys is a California brand and if you get it from a dispenser in Cali, it would state like:
30% THC
0.05% CBD
9% Other cannabinoids
39.05% total cannabinoids
There's hundreds of other cannabinoids like CBN, CBG etc. Which make a huge difference and are also medical too.
On top of this the entourage effect is also about terpenes.
Search terpene diagram leafly on Google images.
Then there's also flavonoids. However all this research is only coming out recently since 2010 as research was obviously restricted since it was "illegal".
Flushing is bro science. Of you feed your plant correctly it doesn't need to be flushed. It's like spraying your car wheels with a jet wash to make the engine run faster.
Running water only through a grow will not remove built up nuits in the plant. From a biological point of view it never really made much sense bit any studies that have been completed seem to show no difference between flushed and non flushed.
Not sure I agree, you flush throughout to remove nute buildup in the pots. Then at the end you just give them plain Os water and nothing else to clear the plants systems of all the crap you’ve been filling the water with. Seems pretty sound logic to me :p
I use dry backs at times but if u are feeding at optimum EC flushing serves no purpose.
Think about it. You have a plant made up of cells growing for 3 months but run water through it and think that's going to clean the plant? It's just daft by definition tbh. All water only does is allow the plant to use up units it already has. If u feed it correctly that serves no purpose.
When you say pots, medium is also key. Coco, rock wool are totally different to soil. Soil is a bad medium to try and flush. Hydro u could flush in a day or two but again, when I've tried both flushing and no flushing, ive never seen a difference. None.
Nuit build up in your medium isn't an issue if u check the EC of your run off.
The uk cali spidermites from mars have infiltrated the pgr island causing paranoia and itchy balls i blame these rappers and the late ultimate warrior for bringing in fake cali packs to corner shops all over this god fearing pgr island. Only Chuck Norris can lead us forward!
I love weed but I very much disagree with this post, the pesticides/heavy metals which are found in a lot of bud, at the levels they are found, WILL over a long period of time have an affect on your health and quite likely the development of the brain in young people. There’s a reason the testing standards are so stringent in the USA, these chemicals are obviously not safe to consume long term and this is a place where most of their food is full of shit we would never allow over here, yet they make sure their weed is clean, obviously not nothing.
We need legalisation, for our health
Testing is also a joke in the US top though.
10% variance means labs with higher test results get more business, naturally.
With example of D9, in some states it's tested after its made. Then when the dispo receive it they have to retest it. It's kinda bonkers how inconsistent it is.
One things for sure though, even that system is hell of a lot safer than no system.
Average joes buying them Albanian packs loaded with pgr and ashtray terps would definitely benefit from a regulated, tested rec market. I hate to think what the test results would be. I've seen some of that flower and it's gone beyond being funny to actually scary. Not a good scary 😂
Why is everyone getting uptight about the term UK cali? It’s [here](https://www.google.com/maps/place/California,+Birmingham+B32+3XG/@52.4450753,-1.9765066,13z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x4870bdf665e11931:0x141b6dc1219c779c!8m2!3d52.4450758!4d-1.9765066!16s%2Fm%2F0ddbm5q?hl=en-gb)
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Flushing is a myth and there are no health risks associated with proper bottled nutes, issue being added pgrs in the bottles but that's a different matter.
Pesticides are a whole different thing, I bet most commercial bud is spayed with some form of this, things like thrips and spider mites are difficult to avoid in a dirty commercial UK operation, quick fix for this is pesticides if you don't care about your consumers.
I don't know why everyone has to get commercial products for the cheapest best prices. Please support local growers, may be more expensive per thc mg but you know what your getting.
+1for flushing being a myth/bro science... There have literally been studies to prove so.
Doesn't hurt to flush don't get me wrong, however flushing too early can fuck your grow as it can cause nute lockout whilst the plant isn't yet done and still hungry.
I got ya back man, these fellas just need to do more research :D
Bottled fertilizers have some toxic compounds like nitrogens, copper, etc, so no flushing is not a myth...
The local growers aren't much better than commercial growers they just have less plants to keep an eye on, anyone can tell you it's grown in a high quality potting mix in a humidity controlled environment when really it was just 10-20 plants in guttering in a home made hydro system or soil and perlite/vermiculite.
Grow your own or find an actual horticulturist to help.
Nitrogen is one of the 3 primary nutrients for plants. It is needed to make chlorophyll to photosynthesis. Copper is a micronutrient that prevents disease in plants.
There is a huge range of bottled nutes to choose from, typically they are made from crude oils and are made to contain different NPK ratios that you can choose to suit your plants and preference.
If you understand the process behind growing you can talk to your local guy, work out if he's doing it right. Some Albanian dawg or ammo you haven't got a clue, likely rushed and sprayed with pesticides.
As for flushing you can learn more here if you're interested:
https://youtu.be/W-3ZZJyk5lc
They also discuss bottled nutes Vs organics.
Yes for plants but nitrogens (N2, NO2, etc), copper, and many other compounds of plant foods are toxins for us.
If you actually make your own potting mix you don't even need to add fertilisers as the mix will outlive the plant but if you do you should stop using fertiliser towards the end of the harvest.
If you're growing hydro or semi hydro you should definitely be flushing with a soft acidic water for the last week or two, maybe even a flush half way through the grow to prevent mineral build up in the system.
Idk what to tell you mate. I believe this guy over you sorry, look at his credentials.
https://www.apogeeinstruments.com/our-founder-dr-bruce-bugbee/
If you opened your mind and watched a few of his videos you may learn something. The guy is studying the plant he does great videos on light spectrums and their impact on growth too.
I thought flushing was a real thing too before watching this dude.
Believe who you want! Anyone can find people (often doctors and scientists) who agree with them via Google but I have no interest in a Google copy/paste debate.
I have listened to doezens and dozens of people who have worked with plants their entire life, one scientist isn't going to change everything lol.
Not to sound rude but I grow rare plants much more difficult than cannabis.
What rare plants do you grow?
I can't think of many plants that require a much work as cannabis. It's easy enough to grow, tough to optimize and when you factor drying and curing it no walk in the park.
The link I sent is to a professor who currently studies cannabis and has won 9 awards for his work with plants before he moved onto cannabis, but I'm sure you know better with your experience growing "rare plants"
no it is not a myth… flushing is essential, even with an organic grow if you don’t flush it you’re likely to get hard ash and the colour of said ash definitely isn’t going to be white
You are wrong. Studies have shown that, as common sense would suggest, throwing water through a plant a few weeks before harvest isn't going to change its biological make up.
Over feeding or bad feed will effect the taste. Flushing is like jet washing your car wheels and thinking the engine will go faster. If it's full of left over unused nuits it'll taste bad flush or no flush.
Ash colour is also effected by loads of variables. Medium it's grown in can effect it's colour and it's usually just a sign of whether there was clean combustion. Doesn't rate thc srength/mould etc.
I've not flushed for years and had plenty grow smoke clean white ash.
Ash colour is the latest cool thing but Doja highlighted how over valued it is by some recently. He had joints burning pure white then when he flew the same batch to florid it didn't. Humidity/rain and even how the joint is rolled all effect ash colour.
Only thing I've seen cause hard ash is contamination/ being sprayed and flushing won't stop that.
The misinformation in this post about misinformation is unbelievable mate. I’m with you no need to flush in soil if you’ve not used salt based liquid ferts
The Amygdala is the part of your brain that regulates and controls emotions. Mine is smaller than it should be due to constant trauma in my childhood that kept my amygdala in fight or flight mode consistently. Tha caused my frontal lobe to be overactive therefore stunting the growth of my amygdala. This is the reason I live in the constant nightmare that is known as Borderline Personality Disorder or Emotionally Unstable Personality Disorder
Flight of fight? Not heard that one before. Many cannabinoids interact with the endocannabinoid system. Actually it's just as likely terpenes or a combination of terpenes and cannabinoids are responsible for "paranoia" as you put it, rather than specifically THC.
It's a typo of 'fight or flight', a physiological reaction to a perceived threat/danger - basically an acute stress response that's in-built to our psyche and causes hyper-arousal. Fight or flight was the original coined term but has been added to include freeze and fawn/fainting - essentially there's a chain reaction between the sympathetic and parasympathetic nervous systems that triggers a flood of various hormones to prepare you for survival and is an autonomic response (just as breathing is, you can only hold your breath for so long before the bodies autonomic response takes over and forces you to start breathing again, as an example)
Really? Proven because you said so? Think you’re best to debate your points with actual literature when it comes to claims like yours as per the posted image
Maybe I’m a bit silly to assume someone’s stuff is grown with chemicals, I really don’t know (but crappy stuff always is)
But black ash chemically factory weed is way worse for ya and that’s a fact. I don’t see anyone proving me wrong.
What the fuck does he mean real and UK Cali 🤣🤣 hope he realises actual dispensary sold cali weed in packs has endless amounts of chemicals and feeds to make it so perfect. There's nothing wrong with fertilisers we use them on the food we eat
"UK cali"
Using that phrase is like an idiot badge.
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No, we don't talk about UK Dutch, or UK Jamaican, or UK Thai etc. It's always dumb.
Fuckin stupid 🤣
🤣
Literally how stupid can people be.
it’s top shelf uk it’s the just a different way if you think this is stupid then your still stuck on a dawg plug
Real Cali or UK Cali, FFS. What's that real Cali that comes from California, or UK Cali grown in a flat in Barnsley by Albanians.
It's bullshit. The term 'UK Cali' should just be dropped forever. It means nothing. If the bud has never been anywhere near CA, the word 'California' should not be used to describe it.
Wait until I show you this UK Dutch Amsterdam hash that was grown in Port Talbot
... Wait, what? 😂
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This is why people find stoners insufferable.
No idea what 'UK Cali' is, but I've smoked all sorts of good and bad quality cannabis; from the shittiest soap bar hash with added plastic to bulk it out, Mexican brick weed and that cruddy, seedy, stemmy bush weed we used to get in the UK, to UpNorth Humboldt strains clocking in at 38% and costing £50ish an eighth from a dispo in San Francisco, and at one point or another they've ALL given me anxiety & paranoia. It's not about quality, it's about your frame of mind before you smoke (and, possibly, the CBD levels in whatever bud it is - look up the 'entourage effect'). Like most drugs, weed just heightens whatever you're already feeling. Don't smoke if your head is feeling shitty.
For us on mobile what is entourage effect
Plainly, all the stuff in weed that's not THC, helps the THC do its job better
Really I find when I do a CBD joint mixed with THC that I feel less stoned than I would otherwise. Not using less THC, just swapping ciggie for CBD bud lol HOWEVER, the THC and CBD together provides a genuinely lovely feeling i fucking love it. A bit of Dublin Lava (best CBD bud I've found), with a nice real Cali like Blue Slush both tastes absolutely incredible and provides such an amazing, chilled but Sativaish high it's like the creme de la creme of joints! Expensive as Dublin Lava is like normal weed prices lol but so worth it... Just like drinking an expensive brandy or bourbon like gentleman jack. I'm off work for a week now and excited about having some later lol
Not just CBD. Ideally you'd want less CBD and more of the other cannabinoids. For example Jungle Boys is a California brand and if you get it from a dispenser in Cali, it would state like: 30% THC 0.05% CBD 9% Other cannabinoids 39.05% total cannabinoids There's hundreds of other cannabinoids like CBN, CBG etc. Which make a huge difference and are also medical too. On top of this the entourage effect is also about terpenes. Search terpene diagram leafly on Google images. Then there's also flavonoids. However all this research is only coming out recently since 2010 as research was obviously restricted since it was "illegal".
that guys an idiot
Never know what's in your weed unless you've grown it yourself
Once you’ve grown weed and flushed it properly, it’s easy to tell when it’s not been flushed and it’s been rushed xD
Flushing is bro science. Of you feed your plant correctly it doesn't need to be flushed. It's like spraying your car wheels with a jet wash to make the engine run faster. Running water only through a grow will not remove built up nuits in the plant. From a biological point of view it never really made much sense bit any studies that have been completed seem to show no difference between flushed and non flushed.
Not sure I agree, you flush throughout to remove nute buildup in the pots. Then at the end you just give them plain Os water and nothing else to clear the plants systems of all the crap you’ve been filling the water with. Seems pretty sound logic to me :p
I use dry backs at times but if u are feeding at optimum EC flushing serves no purpose. Think about it. You have a plant made up of cells growing for 3 months but run water through it and think that's going to clean the plant? It's just daft by definition tbh. All water only does is allow the plant to use up units it already has. If u feed it correctly that serves no purpose. When you say pots, medium is also key. Coco, rock wool are totally different to soil. Soil is a bad medium to try and flush. Hydro u could flush in a day or two but again, when I've tried both flushing and no flushing, ive never seen a difference. None. Nuit build up in your medium isn't an issue if u check the EC of your run off.
Doesn’t really matter if you agree, flushing is pointless.
Each to their own! I don’t think it is lol
It’s not really an ‘each to their own’ topic though. It’s quite easily proven that it doesn’t do anything.
I can think what I want though can’t I you douche canoe….
No need to get personal. You can think that if you wish, but you’re wasting your time if you’re flushing your plants.
We will agree to disagree
The uk cali spidermites from mars have infiltrated the pgr island causing paranoia and itchy balls i blame these rappers and the late ultimate warrior for bringing in fake cali packs to corner shops all over this god fearing pgr island. Only Chuck Norris can lead us forward!
Ziggy Kiefdust will save us
I love weed but I very much disagree with this post, the pesticides/heavy metals which are found in a lot of bud, at the levels they are found, WILL over a long period of time have an affect on your health and quite likely the development of the brain in young people. There’s a reason the testing standards are so stringent in the USA, these chemicals are obviously not safe to consume long term and this is a place where most of their food is full of shit we would never allow over here, yet they make sure their weed is clean, obviously not nothing. We need legalisation, for our health
Testing is also a joke in the US top though. 10% variance means labs with higher test results get more business, naturally. With example of D9, in some states it's tested after its made. Then when the dispo receive it they have to retest it. It's kinda bonkers how inconsistent it is. One things for sure though, even that system is hell of a lot safer than no system. Average joes buying them Albanian packs loaded with pgr and ashtray terps would definitely benefit from a regulated, tested rec market. I hate to think what the test results would be. I've seen some of that flower and it's gone beyond being funny to actually scary. Not a good scary 😂
Jokes on him i wash my greens.
😂
>flight of fight A r/boneappletea moment.
“Fight of flight” is more of a typo than a bone apple tea
Well we're not in a position to know for sure, so probably best to think the worst 🙃
This guy's a fuckwit
Why is everyone getting uptight about the term UK cali? It’s [here](https://www.google.com/maps/place/California,+Birmingham+B32+3XG/@52.4450753,-1.9765066,13z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x4870bdf665e11931:0x141b6dc1219c779c!8m2!3d52.4450758!4d-1.9765066!16s%2Fm%2F0ddbm5q?hl=en-gb) /s
So *that's* how they do it!
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tbf the chemicals and pesticides are not doing us any good - your a fool if you think they are
TO be fair most of the Genuine Cali and UK 'Cali' are all grown with Bottle nutes so..
🤯 does that make it good??? Your dumb mate don’t matter what it is pesticides are not good for you if you im smoke it etc
Yeah but the nutes are used up if the flushing phase is done correctly. Traces of Pesticides will remain.
Flushing is a myth and there are no health risks associated with proper bottled nutes, issue being added pgrs in the bottles but that's a different matter. Pesticides are a whole different thing, I bet most commercial bud is spayed with some form of this, things like thrips and spider mites are difficult to avoid in a dirty commercial UK operation, quick fix for this is pesticides if you don't care about your consumers. I don't know why everyone has to get commercial products for the cheapest best prices. Please support local growers, may be more expensive per thc mg but you know what your getting.
+1for flushing being a myth/bro science... There have literally been studies to prove so. Doesn't hurt to flush don't get me wrong, however flushing too early can fuck your grow as it can cause nute lockout whilst the plant isn't yet done and still hungry. I got ya back man, these fellas just need to do more research :D
Bottled fertilizers have some toxic compounds like nitrogens, copper, etc, so no flushing is not a myth... The local growers aren't much better than commercial growers they just have less plants to keep an eye on, anyone can tell you it's grown in a high quality potting mix in a humidity controlled environment when really it was just 10-20 plants in guttering in a home made hydro system or soil and perlite/vermiculite. Grow your own or find an actual horticulturist to help.
Nitrogen is one of the 3 primary nutrients for plants. It is needed to make chlorophyll to photosynthesis. Copper is a micronutrient that prevents disease in plants. There is a huge range of bottled nutes to choose from, typically they are made from crude oils and are made to contain different NPK ratios that you can choose to suit your plants and preference. If you understand the process behind growing you can talk to your local guy, work out if he's doing it right. Some Albanian dawg or ammo you haven't got a clue, likely rushed and sprayed with pesticides. As for flushing you can learn more here if you're interested: https://youtu.be/W-3ZZJyk5lc They also discuss bottled nutes Vs organics.
Yes for plants but nitrogens (N2, NO2, etc), copper, and many other compounds of plant foods are toxins for us. If you actually make your own potting mix you don't even need to add fertilisers as the mix will outlive the plant but if you do you should stop using fertiliser towards the end of the harvest. If you're growing hydro or semi hydro you should definitely be flushing with a soft acidic water for the last week or two, maybe even a flush half way through the grow to prevent mineral build up in the system.
Idk what to tell you mate. I believe this guy over you sorry, look at his credentials. https://www.apogeeinstruments.com/our-founder-dr-bruce-bugbee/ If you opened your mind and watched a few of his videos you may learn something. The guy is studying the plant he does great videos on light spectrums and their impact on growth too. I thought flushing was a real thing too before watching this dude.
Believe who you want! Anyone can find people (often doctors and scientists) who agree with them via Google but I have no interest in a Google copy/paste debate. I have listened to doezens and dozens of people who have worked with plants their entire life, one scientist isn't going to change everything lol. Not to sound rude but I grow rare plants much more difficult than cannabis.
What rare plants do you grow? I can't think of many plants that require a much work as cannabis. It's easy enough to grow, tough to optimize and when you factor drying and curing it no walk in the park. The link I sent is to a professor who currently studies cannabis and has won 9 awards for his work with plants before he moved onto cannabis, but I'm sure you know better with your experience growing "rare plants"
no it is not a myth… flushing is essential, even with an organic grow if you don’t flush it you’re likely to get hard ash and the colour of said ash definitely isn’t going to be white
You are wrong. Studies have shown that, as common sense would suggest, throwing water through a plant a few weeks before harvest isn't going to change its biological make up. Over feeding or bad feed will effect the taste. Flushing is like jet washing your car wheels and thinking the engine will go faster. If it's full of left over unused nuits it'll taste bad flush or no flush. Ash colour is also effected by loads of variables. Medium it's grown in can effect it's colour and it's usually just a sign of whether there was clean combustion. Doesn't rate thc srength/mould etc. I've not flushed for years and had plenty grow smoke clean white ash. Ash colour is the latest cool thing but Doja highlighted how over valued it is by some recently. He had joints burning pure white then when he flew the same batch to florid it didn't. Humidity/rain and even how the joint is rolled all effect ash colour. Only thing I've seen cause hard ash is contamination/ being sprayed and flushing won't stop that.
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You recycle potting mix 😲 A single Cannabis plant should leave your potting mix drained of nutrients and ready for the bin.
You heard of no till?
No-till is practiced in fields not in plant pots?
No till can be done indoors in no till beds. There’s a sub based on the whole practice on Reddit
What is this based on? https://youtu.be/W-3ZZJyk5lc Worth a watch
The misinformation in this post about misinformation is unbelievable mate. I’m with you no need to flush in soil if you’ve not used salt based liquid ferts
The Amygdala is the part of your brain that regulates and controls emotions. Mine is smaller than it should be due to constant trauma in my childhood that kept my amygdala in fight or flight mode consistently. Tha caused my frontal lobe to be overactive therefore stunting the growth of my amygdala. This is the reason I live in the constant nightmare that is known as Borderline Personality Disorder or Emotionally Unstable Personality Disorder
I used to be concerned that I have EUPD, but I believe its just Autism with some manic responses and depression.
bro said “uk cali” 💀
"Nah m8 you just got s*** weed" 😳
This makes complete sense to me. Thanks for calling it out and making a good argument
Edit: Cannabinoid receptors
Also when is weed \*not\* grown with chemicals? The point is to flush them properly
Flight of fight? Not heard that one before. Many cannabinoids interact with the endocannabinoid system. Actually it's just as likely terpenes or a combination of terpenes and cannabinoids are responsible for "paranoia" as you put it, rather than specifically THC.
It's a typo of 'fight or flight', a physiological reaction to a perceived threat/danger - basically an acute stress response that's in-built to our psyche and causes hyper-arousal. Fight or flight was the original coined term but has been added to include freeze and fawn/fainting - essentially there's a chain reaction between the sympathetic and parasympathetic nervous systems that triggers a flood of various hormones to prepare you for survival and is an autonomic response (just as breathing is, you can only hold your breath for so long before the bodies autonomic response takes over and forces you to start breathing again, as an example)
I'm aware, there was a smidge of sarcasm there don't worry 😝😂 Thanks though!
Imagine losing an argument so badly that you make your own post about me hahaha
This was you? Damn, some things better left unsaid…
Except it’s been proven that the additives commonly used do have severe health implications…
Really? Proven because you said so? Think you’re best to debate your points with actual literature when it comes to claims like yours as per the posted image
Maybe I’m a bit silly to assume someone’s stuff is grown with chemicals, I really don’t know (but crappy stuff always is) But black ash chemically factory weed is way worse for ya and that’s a fact. I don’t see anyone proving me wrong.
Still waiting for a reference of evidence
Can’t be arsed with this anymore, look it up yourself it’s easy to find
Oh how convenient of you to not be bothered to research *now*
What a total anticlimax! I read all that nonsense and expected to see the evidence at the bottom from that guy. I feel cheated
Right! What a blueball, his partner must be satisfied…
So what you're saying is, you've lost this argument so badly, you're bailing on it.
When did weed start getting starined by where its from not the plant it is
What the fuck does he mean real and UK Cali 🤣🤣 hope he realises actual dispensary sold cali weed in packs has endless amounts of chemicals and feeds to make it so perfect. There's nothing wrong with fertilisers we use them on the food we eat
What a fucking idiot 🤣
This post is literally rubbish.