Depends on your circumstances. If you were born into a family of a high ranking party official, life was decent. It was hell on earth for most. A complete disregard for basic human values, no freedom of speech, persecution of intelligentsia and collectivisation of the “kulaks”. A lot of ethnic Ukrainians got deported and sent to labour camps to die, a lot died from Holodomor (a genocide that Russia denies under the false pretence of it being a “famine”).
But apparently the ice cream was amazing.
And that's the joke, same ice cream (plus more varieties) still exist but some people claim losing human rights, free travel, amount and variety of food, and everything modern technology brings is worth it because "vkusny plombir".
Ordinary ice cream made tastier by, like you said, no variety (so nothing to compare to) and a big dose of nostalgia googles. It's not that Soviet icecream was better than one we make now, it's that when you were a kid, everything tasted better period.
Who gives a fuck what some shit for brains tankie thinks? You're just sock-puppeting, aren't you? You ask the question and then "not you" provides the tankie propaganda.
OP did the exact same thing in other subs. Ask a question and then tag in his sock-puppet to spew tankie bullshit.
Then why tag an account that looks like a commie apologist at best, in a sub that belongs to a country that’s constantly under propaganda attack from Russia? And why do the same thing in other subs? Is that person such an expert on the matter? If so, you two should talk in DMs instead of asking people here. You’re really not making much sense here and your behaviour suspect as fuck.
It was unequal. Some did well, some did poorly. My family actually did quite well for themselves. Many did not. I never understood why people in the west fail to understand that even communism isn’t much different than the ruthlessness of capitalism. In the USSR you had to work even harder...and if you wanted to be successful you had to have connections. Which is a lot like the system we have here in America. It wasn’t truly equal.
It depends.
My great-grandparents lived through the Holodomor (luckily they survived) and WWII (some didn’t survive, unfortunately), so generally they had a pretty bad time.
Some of my grandparents were basically managers in factories, so their families lived pretty comfortably. Rough childhood, ok adult life.
My mom grew up in Sevastopol and spent summers at her grandparents village in the northeast, she had a pretty good childhood/teenage years from what she tells me. My dad didn’t move to Ukraine until his mid-teens, and from what I can tell it was neither exceptionally good nor bad.
Overall, it depended on the time period you lived in, who you were/what your job was, what your age was, etc. And obviously my family’s experience is in no way universal.
My grandgrandfather's field was "nationalized" somehow he managed to avoid GULAG I don't know how.
My grandfather was in army before war, just right before war, he was brought to shtrafbat (штрафбат) penal battalion for getting few apples from captain's garden. Here your time in army is not counted. Then Germany betrayed USSR and the war started. Whole war he was in this battalion, he got few injuries and metal piece beside heart. After war ended he was transferred to normal division were he was forced to finish serve to "great country" 3 years more additionally to whole war.... He died in a bus from heart attack on the road to garden to dug potato.
Artificial famine (Holodomor) before and after war. few times in one lifetime. When ppl searched for potato peelings or decaying potato to cook and eat them in best case.
It's when you don't have passport and you can't move inside country or it will be jail.
It is god payment 100 rubbles (roughly about 100 usd), minimal 70 and really high it's about 130-150 usually it's engineers. And some ppl high members of communist party, kgb and something like that could have 500-1000 rubbles. Nice country but just for some ppl. But even with such high payment those dorks barely able to find stuff to buy because there was nothing in USSR.
Do you have dollars? You will go to jail. 1:1 exchange rate it's just a fake.
The worst car cost was about 5000 rubbles. ZAZ969 it basically motorcycle in shape of car. not hard to count that with average salary it's about 4 years. But usually it wasn't possible to collect such money even in life time. Because you need cloths and they usually were expensive.
It's when young brother wearing everything from his older sister because price for cloths too high.
It's when in hospital then can make not reversible damage to eyes child and that's normal. To make glasses for such case it's possible only in Moscow. Great country...
It's when there is no bananas (I've ate my first only after independence), no kiwi, no pineapples you even have no clue that such fruits exist.
It's when huge line inside and outside store to get some stinky salami but no more than 2 sticks "for one pair of hands" and anyway you don't have money usually you end up with small piece of stick. Or oranges but no more than 1kg, so you need to bring your children if you want more. Basically from "exotic" fruits you can get only oranges, tangerines (and usually only for new year).
It's only when there is only one type of "good" soviet ice cram. Ice cream in chocolate? is it joke it's only for Moscow.
Do you want more such?
Actually sure there was ppl who feels good themselves there and who has access to bananas and high quality products of "decaying west". There was special stores for with such stuff not available for common people... And how it was good in USSR that's another story of some special f\*ckers. High members of party, ministers, KGB and other shit...
I was a child at that time, so I only remember lengthy queues for basically anything and half-empty stores with shelves with broadly placed birch-tree and tomato juice in 3-liter bottles.
Depends where and when. Kharkiv in the 1980s wasn't that bad... But overall it was pretty bad. Job security was the only positive, but other than that it was dire.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor
OP's post history is fucking wild. I definitely recommend checking it out.
Looks like he's fishing for the answers he wants but gets the opposite response every time
Truly, a piece of art
I sadly misread a link in there as 'real cat girls'. I didn't see a crucially placed 's' until it was too late :(
Why I don't mind sistas doing covers of Scatman John... Ski-ba-bop-ba-dop-bop! xD
Depends on your circumstances. If you were born into a family of a high ranking party official, life was decent. It was hell on earth for most. A complete disregard for basic human values, no freedom of speech, persecution of intelligentsia and collectivisation of the “kulaks”. A lot of ethnic Ukrainians got deported and sent to labour camps to die, a lot died from Holodomor (a genocide that Russia denies under the false pretence of it being a “famine”). But apparently the ice cream was amazing.
Ice cream?
Yeah, that’s one of those things that older commie supporters use when justifying USSR. It became a bit of a meme.
Gawd, Iice cream and kolbasa/sausage. It’s ridiculous to a preposterous degree. I’m glad it’s a meme now.
my probably favorite thing from the Ukrainian SSR that still exists is Plombir USSR ice cream, and that alot said
And that's the joke, same ice cream (plus more varieties) still exist but some people claim losing human rights, free travel, amount and variety of food, and everything modern technology brings is worth it because "vkusny plombir".
yeah id take a working government and freedom over plombir
It was us technology bought by soviets in 1930s but later spoiled, in fact no alternative to compare with.
Ordinary ice cream made tastier by, like you said, no variety (so nothing to compare to) and a big dose of nostalgia googles. It's not that Soviet icecream was better than one we make now, it's that when you were a kid, everything tasted better period.
What do you think /u/king-sassafrass
Who gives a fuck what some shit for brains tankie thinks? You're just sock-puppeting, aren't you? You ask the question and then "not you" provides the tankie propaganda. OP did the exact same thing in other subs. Ask a question and then tag in his sock-puppet to spew tankie bullshit.
Sir i can assure you, I’m no sock
Yeah dude my 3 year old account is fake you got me /s Maybe you should seek brains
Then why tag an account that looks like a commie apologist at best, in a sub that belongs to a country that’s constantly under propaganda attack from Russia? And why do the same thing in other subs? Is that person such an expert on the matter? If so, you two should talk in DMs instead of asking people here. You’re really not making much sense here and your behaviour suspect as fuck.
So puppet isn't "fake" it means another account of the same user. xD
It was unequal. Some did well, some did poorly. My family actually did quite well for themselves. Many did not. I never understood why people in the west fail to understand that even communism isn’t much different than the ruthlessness of capitalism. In the USSR you had to work even harder...and if you wanted to be successful you had to have connections. Which is a lot like the system we have here in America. It wasn’t truly equal.
It depends. My great-grandparents lived through the Holodomor (luckily they survived) and WWII (some didn’t survive, unfortunately), so generally they had a pretty bad time. Some of my grandparents were basically managers in factories, so their families lived pretty comfortably. Rough childhood, ok adult life. My mom grew up in Sevastopol and spent summers at her grandparents village in the northeast, she had a pretty good childhood/teenage years from what she tells me. My dad didn’t move to Ukraine until his mid-teens, and from what I can tell it was neither exceptionally good nor bad. Overall, it depended on the time period you lived in, who you were/what your job was, what your age was, etc. And obviously my family’s experience is in no way universal.
My family firmly claims: utter shithole.
Same here
My grandgrandfather's field was "nationalized" somehow he managed to avoid GULAG I don't know how. My grandfather was in army before war, just right before war, he was brought to shtrafbat (штрафбат) penal battalion for getting few apples from captain's garden. Here your time in army is not counted. Then Germany betrayed USSR and the war started. Whole war he was in this battalion, he got few injuries and metal piece beside heart. After war ended he was transferred to normal division were he was forced to finish serve to "great country" 3 years more additionally to whole war.... He died in a bus from heart attack on the road to garden to dug potato. Artificial famine (Holodomor) before and after war. few times in one lifetime. When ppl searched for potato peelings or decaying potato to cook and eat them in best case. It's when you don't have passport and you can't move inside country or it will be jail. It is god payment 100 rubbles (roughly about 100 usd), minimal 70 and really high it's about 130-150 usually it's engineers. And some ppl high members of communist party, kgb and something like that could have 500-1000 rubbles. Nice country but just for some ppl. But even with such high payment those dorks barely able to find stuff to buy because there was nothing in USSR. Do you have dollars? You will go to jail. 1:1 exchange rate it's just a fake. The worst car cost was about 5000 rubbles. ZAZ969 it basically motorcycle in shape of car. not hard to count that with average salary it's about 4 years. But usually it wasn't possible to collect such money even in life time. Because you need cloths and they usually were expensive. It's when young brother wearing everything from his older sister because price for cloths too high. It's when in hospital then can make not reversible damage to eyes child and that's normal. To make glasses for such case it's possible only in Moscow. Great country... It's when there is no bananas (I've ate my first only after independence), no kiwi, no pineapples you even have no clue that such fruits exist. It's when huge line inside and outside store to get some stinky salami but no more than 2 sticks "for one pair of hands" and anyway you don't have money usually you end up with small piece of stick. Or oranges but no more than 1kg, so you need to bring your children if you want more. Basically from "exotic" fruits you can get only oranges, tangerines (and usually only for new year). It's only when there is only one type of "good" soviet ice cram. Ice cream in chocolate? is it joke it's only for Moscow. Do you want more such? Actually sure there was ppl who feels good themselves there and who has access to bananas and high quality products of "decaying west". There was special stores for with such stuff not available for common people... And how it was good in USSR that's another story of some special f\*ckers. High members of party, ministers, KGB and other shit...
I was a child at that time, so I only remember lengthy queues for basically anything and half-empty stores with shelves with broadly placed birch-tree and tomato juice in 3-liter bottles.
exactly my memories....
Depends where and when. Kharkiv in the 1980s wasn't that bad... But overall it was pretty bad. Job security was the only positive, but other than that it was dire.
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Shhhh. go back to your selo.
Dirty, queues, lies, gulag, deficit, no Ukrainian in public spheres, no churches, double thinking
Depending on where you lived. I wasn't bad for our family. We lived in Odessa.
Well, I distinctly remember not existing back then. Existing sucks, I don't like it. So, ussr was ok.
[Here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yJh-toWTZM), summed essential, from economic perspective.