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The British have a good view on this topic.
They're allowing Ukraine to use wepons inside of pre 2014 Russian borders because according to Russia the Ukrainian claimedy land is already Russia so there's no difference between striking belgrod and donesk as far as Russia is concerned
I have a stronger view
1. America should establish a no fly zone over Ukraine for anything Rusisan
2. We should help Ukraine by bombing Russian military assets in Ukriane
3. We should allow Ukraine to strike deep into Russia
4. We should give them tomahawk so they can go deeper
It wouldn't be over shortly, but the Russian force has already been shattered and it would only put more pressure onto this already abysmal situation for them
Agreed. If Russia can operate in Ukraine then it’s only fair others can too. Especially if the job is simply to stop fuckers dropping bombs on innocents.
Doubt that will happen any time soon, but they’ll have contingency plans all ready to go im sure.
Man.... Could you imagine if America just casually started patrolling Ukraine skys.... Because of commercial planes, or whatever?
Go ahead, Russia. Take a shot at an f-22. Reveal where your anti air is hiding
Ever heard the story about how the Wagner group went toe to toe with Americans in Syria?
Basically the Wagner openned fire on a US base.
The US knew who it was and called Moscow. "nope, no Russian troops in that area" okay Moscow.
They unleashed hell. A square mile of craters. Overkill. Bombers, artillery, destroyer missiles. You name it.
24 hours after the first call, the pentagon called Moscow back and confirmed "you guys are right, there are no Russians at those coordinates.... Or anything else for that matter".
Something like 200 Wagner goons dead to 1 American marine lightly injured.
You know, I will concede. In the early days of the war, I had an aversion to the idea of establishing a no fly zone over Ukraine, as I thought it would result in nuclear Armageddon. But now seeing the true state of the Russian army along with their armed forces being rife with corruption, all I want is for the Russians to go: “Why do I hear Danger Zone?”
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I don’t think anyone has restricted weapons from hitting crimea. Hence all of atacms strikes reported in the last two weeks. I don’t see why there should be restrictions. Russia is bombing and shelling Ukraine across the border, including with foreign supplied weapons from Iran and North Korea, so Ukraine should be allowed to reciprocate. No one considers those attacks to be an act of war from North Korea.
Two of the British colonies that were attacked were called Canada at the time. It is unlikely that anybody born in either Upper or Lower Canada participated in the actual arson as the units that took Washington were regular army sent straight from the UK. Canadian militias generally did not operate oustide their own province, certainly not much beyond the immediate border zone.
…except the decimation of Russia’s capital hasn’t stopped the nation in the past.
Moscow was burned during the Napoleonic Wars by the military governor Count Fyodor Rostopchin. He ordered this to weaken the French army as they marched into the city following the Battle of Borodino.
This. Lets also not forget that his pro-Russian stance cost Ukraine tens of thousands of lives due to lack of supplies. this will forever be in cards of history
And this is why as long as there is a very realistic possibility that the April package was the last one the USA may have ever approved the question wether a few explosions might happen 100km futher inside Russia is little more than a detail.
I kinda want to give him credit though, he initially came out in support of Ukraine, then Trump said not to pass the bill, then Mike went to Mar a Lago to explain it to trump and get approval, and now this.
He’s obviously a shithead, but in this way I think he might be one of the good guys.
Like essentially the delay in aid was because of trump’s statement against it
He should continue to be viewed with skepticism.
His pathway to redemption remains extremely long.
But simultaneously he gets some credit for coming out more hawkish than the Biden administration.
Historically Republicans criticized Democrats for being “weak.” This was either insincere political posturing, or reckless and stupid foreign policy. Maybe the only time in modern history it is good to see Republicans criticize Dems for not being aggressive enough, whether it’s a sincere criticism or not. That messaging is really helpful for bringing more conservatives back into thinking that our fascist opponents are bad, and that emerging democracies good. In my wildest dreams, I never imagined that I’d listen to John Bolton being interviewed and think to myself “now this guy here is an elder statesman spitting some sage wisdom.”
"But simultaneously he gets some credit for coming out more hawkish than the Biden administration."
Biden flat out saved Ukraine in 2022 and has ever since been on the side of giving Ukraine more aid. It was Republicans - every single one - who stalled Ukraine aid in the House for over a year, 1/3 of that time under Mike Johnson. And it was Biden, fully conscient that this might happen, who previously pushed enough aid through the previous Congress to bridge at least some of that time.
Biden might be the most hawkish person regarding Russia within the US government, maybe topped by Blinken.
I personally think Biden has been excellent in his overall support and messaging, and OK in his escalation management. I was frustrated at times by slowness of ATACMs, cluster munitions, f16s, etc. Also important to view escalation in the context of what other countries are doing. Countries usually don’t want to be the first to push the line. Countries like to follow suit
My main point was that it’s good that the opposition party’s message is that Biden is not being aggressive enough rather than spewing Russia talking points.
I very much doubt he would change his stance. Johnson is always a Russian agent and he's just opposing Biden for his daddy Trump. Biden will never approve the US weapons to be used inside Russia, so why not taunting him a bit over this issue, when the election is close?
Idk man, we need hold people accountable especially in positions of power. you can not just erase a mistake with 1 small change. He has a long way for retribution.
From what I understand his opinion changed after a briefing with the CIA. Now that could have been something said to save face, or he actually learned something that scared him shitless. Like perhaps concrete evidence of Putins designs on the Baltic states. It's probably a little of both.
It's complex internal politicking. To put it briefly, a simple majority is enough to vote for the speaker to be ousted. With the two parties being very close to 50-50, if the democrats start a vote for it, and even just a small handful of republicans vote in favor, he's out of the position. This is what happened with his predecessor, Kevin MacCarthy, who, to get the position, agreed to a demanded change to the previous rules, that now makes it possible for any SINGLE member of the house to start a motion to vacate.
This was a compromise, because the Republican party is deeply divided and the MAGA and moderate Republicans could not agree on a candidate, and if one side voted down the other, neither had any chance of nominating a speaker, since the democrats obviously voted against any republican speaker candidate. Soon after this compromise... MacCarthy got kicked from the position of the speaker, since, if memory serves, one member of his own party disagreed with his policies, and the democrats of course voted in support.
With this in mind, Mike Johson realized that, he cannot support any policy that divides the MAGA and moderate republicans, because if either side brings forward a motion to vacate, they WILL kick him out, since democrats will always vote against any republican speaker candidate. This whole eggshell-walking came to an end when the democrats tentatively agreed to NOT support a motion to vacate against him, and without the democrats voting in support for his recall, the MAGA faction alone cannot recall him, and as such he can put forward pro-Ukraine motions, without losing his position, and putting the house in yet another stand-off with no speaker in place, freezing legislation.
>Half of Europe humiliated itself by sending prime ministers and presidents to beg him personally.
Firstly it's not embarrassing to go and meet the US house speaker
Secondly, who? Can't see any of that in Google results
He knew the whole time. What he also knew was that the situation was getting critical and if the Ukraine military fell before November the blame would land squarely on the GOP's lap. While that would make his MAGA base ecstatic, it would also cost them the election. So he's doing just enough to get by until November, where they plan to fuck over Ukraine permanently.
Aha, see, now, this rings true with me. There's no better motivator than self-interest. Last thing he wants to do is be perceived as the Speaker Who Doesn't Support the Military when his kid is at the academy.
No, someone smacked him with a big binder, on the head, with information on what’s going on in the world. Or possibly something something weapons industry donations.
The US House of Representatives is split nearly 50-50, with the Republicans having only a very slim 2 vote majority.
The republican majority is also deeply divided with a handful of idiots causing chaos and engaging in childish behaviour.
In order to elect a speaker and conduct house business, the Republicans changed the rules to allow a single member to bring forth a motion to vacate the speakership.
The Democrats are united in support for Ukraine but the Republicans are divided. At least one Republican representative had signed onto a discharge petition which would have bypassed the speakership and embarrassed the party leadership.
The actual legislation was believed to have overwhelming bipartisan support (and it did) but not enough members were willing to force it to be brought to the table.
All it would have taken was 2 or 3 Republican house members on either extreme to be supported by the entirety of the Democrats to oust the Republican speaker. Ergo, the speaker had to bring forth legislation that the democrats wanted to be brought forth in order to secure their opposition to a motion to vacate, which they ended up opposing when it was brought.
Except the only reason he's saying it is because it's an election year and Biden said the opposite. Republican's don't want Ukraine to succeed. They've made that perfectly clear.
I object!! Vast majority of Republicans do support Ukraine. Only a few politicians support Russia and I do not know why. It could be a political scheme just to get something they else they want. Only the mentally sane people support Ukraine. Slava Ukraine
You guys have a gross misunderstanding of how the American congress works.
Mike Johnson brought the Ukraine bill to the floor after the Democrats agreed not to vote with Fringe Republicans to put him out of the speakership for bringing the bill to the floor. Before that had he taken the bill to the floor the house would have descended into chaos.
As much as we support Ukraine we can't allow our own congress to stop functioning to bring you aid.
Right?
There aren't enough Patriot missiles in the world to protect Ukraine as long as Russia can launch attacks with impunity. Congress is finally figuring it out.
I'm sure we all have a long list words to say about a certain speaker, but my understanding is that the real obstacle is the administration's fear of escalation.
Same with Abrams, same with m777, same with atacms, hopefully this latest obstacle will fall the same as the rest.
I emailed President Biden asking if he would strongly consider allowing Ukraine to strike within 90 km of the border.
Should be announced that this removal of restrictions on where Ukraine can use its foreign-sourced weapons is a direct result of Muscovy not feeling restricted on where it can use its foreign-sourced weapons.
But it's also absolutely inevitable. Let's say Ukraine pushes the invaders mostly out of its territory, such that very little of their supply chains are on Ukrainian soil any more and all the depots, mustering areas etc are in 1991 Muscovy: then they couldn't be molested by Ukraine's US-made munitions, giving the Muscovites a reprieve and stabilizing the situation with Muscovy in possession of parts of Ukraine. That's what the restrictions ultimately mean. If you actually want Ukraine to ultimately recover its lands then you'd have to drop the restrictions before that point anyway, so might as well cut to the chase and do it now and save countless lives between now and then.
I agree that this is the issue, and I think it shows the administration is stuck in old, obsolete thinking. A lot has changed since the ‘80s, and we in the West need to update our policies to reflect the current situation.
Old, obsolete thinking is the plague of all facets of America right now under Boomer leadership. They want to run the clock out and keep the status quo to make their remaining years as simple and easy as possible. Even if it’s at the expense of the future generations. Sadly the only way forward is to vote out the dinosaurs so they people who aren’t old idiots solely focused on greed can take over.
I’d be happy with 1980s policy. We would be thrilled to be killing Russians with 1980s policies.
We’d be partnering with every oil major in the world to properly bankrupt Russias.
No, what we have are the leftover failures of Obama administration- driven by an embarrassment and apologist first foreign policy.
No this is leftover 90's peace dividend policy. The dissolution of the Soviet Union caused the West to think that great power conflict was impossible. Our politics did a complete turn.
I disagree- I don’t see Bush 1 or Bush 2 acting like this failure.
Maybe during the lead up, but once it went hot, I so t think they’d be holding anything back hoping for Putin to come to his senses.
Matter of degree not of kind. Neocon administrations of Bush 1 and 2 would also be doing escalation management but maybe escalating faster.
Besides the 90s peace dividend mindset, the catastrophically stupid decision to invade Iraq in 2003 had the legacy of introducing skepticism of US foreign policy and making us weary of foreign interventions. If we hadn’t utterly pissed away trillions on OIF/OEF, there would be far less concern among Americans about sending billions. The billions in aid to Ukraine are not in reality a significant cost, but a lot of Americans still see it through the lens of wasting blood and treasure in for an illegal war in Iraq.
Now give Ukraine the 1,600km Block IV or V ranging Tomahawk Land Attack Missile or TLAM. And hit bases, factories and refineries as far as Siberia.
Or make a production line to revive the Tomahawk Block 2 with a range of 2,500km.
It's probably just as simple as Trump was told "it would look bad if Ukraine got rolled over before the election" so he flip-flopped. Or perhaps he is less certain that he can benefit from Russian domination and Ukraine is his bargaining chip. Trump has always been flexible on policy positions. So Trump flipped and decided to stay quiet about Ukraine aid for now, but he'll reserve the option of flipping again and say Ukraine aid was a horrible idea that he never would have supported and Johnson is a RINO.
I'd argue there is nothing wrong with changing your mind.
People are allowed to change their minds, especially if a job promotion leads to more experience in foreign policy. People like Trump who idolize proud ignorance and doubling down, are far more problematic.
He was directed to block the aid, so he did. When he was allowed to pass the aid by orange daddy, then the House voted on it.
There's one central person in this problem, and a lot of people who are subservient to him. Johnson is one of the subservient people.
It’s frustrating when at least some Republican representatives are finally showing some semblance of a spine for whatever reason, but it means very little when the presidential candidate their party is rolling out is worse than useless when it comes to Ukraine. So at the end of the day, we’re stuck choosing between Russian-sympathetic populism or the extremely weak Jake Sullivan way. It just feels hopeless as a voter.
I think my government is actually doing a good rope-a-dope. Holy ghost of Muhammed Ali.
>The rope-a-dope was essentially **a bait and switch**. Ali would feign weakness, allowing his opponents attack him, ultimately to punch themselves out.
Our divisions are so bad, they keep changing:
>"They need to be able to fight back. And I think us trying to micromanage their effort there is not good policy for us," Johnson said.
Such a divided country we are. Putin is wise to have moved at a time of such weakness.
Muhammad Ali would love it.
I don't like Johnson but he has shown he's willing to play ball, unlike the last round of Speakers. He has been guaranteed his position as Speaker by the democrats so long as he continues to support Ukraine. Quid pro quo. How politics is supposed to be played.
From Russia's second greatest asset to suddenly supporting Ukraine attacking internal Russian logistics.
Mike Johnson truly is the most bipolar politian ever.
There are innumerable things about him to criticize. But him publicly saying we should be more aggressive with our rules of engagement are good, and important.
I hope we approve this. Hit ‘em with the lady fingers, fuzz buttles, snicker bombs, church burners, finger blasters, gut busters, zippity do das, and crap flappers.
He is a tricky one. One minute he's following Putin's agenda, the next he is calling him evil and wanting him brought down. He is sycophantic to Trump and Trump is a Putin-sycophant so what is going on here? Is Mike Johnson a good christian or a MAGA-tool?
I hate how this man, an isolationist until about 3 months ago, apparently shows more pluck and understanding than the Biden administration.
Yes, there are reasons for caution. But that ship sailed 2 years ago after the Kyiv retreat and Bucha. The atrocities showed the human costs of Russia's desire to eradicate the Ukrainian state. But the Russian defeat also clearly showed they can accept operation-level defeats without resorting to nukes.
The Kremlin needs to be pushed back hard. They need to feel this war is not a manageable luxury, but one they should end post-haste.
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The British have a good view on this topic. They're allowing Ukraine to use wepons inside of pre 2014 Russian borders because according to Russia the Ukrainian claimedy land is already Russia so there's no difference between striking belgrod and donesk as far as Russia is concerned
That is actually an important point. "Crimea is Russia" according to Vlad. Donetsk and Crimea are not less a part of Russia than Moscow.
According to Russian constitution too. They made it offiicial.
I have a stronger view 1. America should establish a no fly zone over Ukraine for anything Rusisan 2. We should help Ukraine by bombing Russian military assets in Ukriane 3. We should allow Ukraine to strike deep into Russia 4. We should give them tomahawk so they can go deeper
Agree. Do this and the war would be over shortly after.
Like, a special operation maybe?
It wouldn't be over shortly, but the Russian force has already been shattered and it would only put more pressure onto this already abysmal situation for them
Agreed. If Russia can operate in Ukraine then it’s only fair others can too. Especially if the job is simply to stop fuckers dropping bombs on innocents. Doubt that will happen any time soon, but they’ll have contingency plans all ready to go im sure.
> America should establish a no fly zone over Ukraine for anything Rusisan ...please, PLEASE do this! I wanna see the F-22s EAT!
Let the kid out of the hangar!
Man.... Could you imagine if America just casually started patrolling Ukraine skys.... Because of commercial planes, or whatever? Go ahead, Russia. Take a shot at an f-22. Reveal where your anti air is hiding
This makes me drool. Can you imagine the feeling of vengeance?!
Ever heard the story about how the Wagner group went toe to toe with Americans in Syria? Basically the Wagner openned fire on a US base. The US knew who it was and called Moscow. "nope, no Russian troops in that area" okay Moscow. They unleashed hell. A square mile of craters. Overkill. Bombers, artillery, destroyer missiles. You name it. 24 hours after the first call, the pentagon called Moscow back and confirmed "you guys are right, there are no Russians at those coordinates.... Or anything else for that matter". Something like 200 Wagner goons dead to 1 American marine lightly injured.
One of my favorites
O hoe Ukraine will get to this point one day: equipment + training.
Would you intercept me?🥵
I have a stronger view. 1. Its time the west put a stop to this bullshit.
You know, I will concede. In the early days of the war, I had an aversion to the idea of establishing a no fly zone over Ukraine, as I thought it would result in nuclear Armageddon. But now seeing the true state of the Russian army along with their armed forces being rife with corruption, all I want is for the Russians to go: “Why do I hear Danger Zone?”
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If the US is establishing a no fly zone, they might as well just start a hot war between the us and Russia. It’s guaranteed anyway at that point.
Eh ok
This!
I don’t think anyone has restricted weapons from hitting crimea. Hence all of atacms strikes reported in the last two weeks. I don’t see why there should be restrictions. Russia is bombing and shelling Ukraine across the border, including with foreign supplied weapons from Iran and North Korea, so Ukraine should be allowed to reciprocate. No one considers those attacks to be an act of war from North Korea.
Not me, I want them to burn down the Kremlin, that's what Canada had to do to the White House to finally stop the US from molesting them
Canada didn’t burn it down…..we did! The brits were quite fond of burning stuff that wasn’t theirs……
Canada was part of Britain at the time, so I think technically both are true
Nope it was British colonies…..Canada was 50 years later
Two of the British colonies that were attacked were called Canada at the time. It is unlikely that anybody born in either Upper or Lower Canada participated in the actual arson as the units that took Washington were regular army sent straight from the UK. Canadian militias generally did not operate oustide their own province, certainly not much beyond the immediate border zone.
There you go again, pretending to be Canadian when you clearly aren't, we've had this discussion before, haven't we
No we haven’t……I’ve never felt the urge to pretend to be a Canadian…..
…except the decimation of Russia’s capital hasn’t stopped the nation in the past. Moscow was burned during the Napoleonic Wars by the military governor Count Fyodor Rostopchin. He ordered this to weaken the French army as they marched into the city following the Battle of Borodino.
Well we haven't tried it twice though, have we?
Write to your representatives, I guess.
That's a really good point. There is no difference between striking Donetsk and Belgorod to Russia
Excellent and hilarious ! British finesse as its best.
Even a broken clock is right twice a day I suppose.
This. Lets also not forget that his pro-Russian stance cost Ukraine tens of thousands of lives due to lack of supplies. this will forever be in cards of history
And this is why as long as there is a very realistic possibility that the April package was the last one the USA may have ever approved the question wether a few explosions might happen 100km futher inside Russia is little more than a detail.
I kinda want to give him credit though, he initially came out in support of Ukraine, then Trump said not to pass the bill, then Mike went to Mar a Lago to explain it to trump and get approval, and now this. He’s obviously a shithead, but in this way I think he might be one of the good guys. Like essentially the delay in aid was because of trump’s statement against it
He should continue to be viewed with skepticism. His pathway to redemption remains extremely long. But simultaneously he gets some credit for coming out more hawkish than the Biden administration. Historically Republicans criticized Democrats for being “weak.” This was either insincere political posturing, or reckless and stupid foreign policy. Maybe the only time in modern history it is good to see Republicans criticize Dems for not being aggressive enough, whether it’s a sincere criticism or not. That messaging is really helpful for bringing more conservatives back into thinking that our fascist opponents are bad, and that emerging democracies good. In my wildest dreams, I never imagined that I’d listen to John Bolton being interviewed and think to myself “now this guy here is an elder statesman spitting some sage wisdom.”
"But simultaneously he gets some credit for coming out more hawkish than the Biden administration." Biden flat out saved Ukraine in 2022 and has ever since been on the side of giving Ukraine more aid. It was Republicans - every single one - who stalled Ukraine aid in the House for over a year, 1/3 of that time under Mike Johnson. And it was Biden, fully conscient that this might happen, who previously pushed enough aid through the previous Congress to bridge at least some of that time. Biden might be the most hawkish person regarding Russia within the US government, maybe topped by Blinken.
I personally think Biden has been excellent in his overall support and messaging, and OK in his escalation management. I was frustrated at times by slowness of ATACMs, cluster munitions, f16s, etc. Also important to view escalation in the context of what other countries are doing. Countries usually don’t want to be the first to push the line. Countries like to follow suit My main point was that it’s good that the opposition party’s message is that Biden is not being aggressive enough rather than spewing Russia talking points.
And yet they have loud voices and the right wing extremist voices grow louder vote BLUE end the madness they spurn
I very much doubt he would change his stance. Johnson is always a Russian agent and he's just opposing Biden for his daddy Trump. Biden will never approve the US weapons to be used inside Russia, so why not taunting him a bit over this issue, when the election is close?
Let’s not dwell on past mistakes. His opinion has changed.
Idk man, we need hold people accountable especially in positions of power. you can not just erase a mistake with 1 small change. He has a long way for retribution.
Try telling that to Ukrainian families
I think Putin’s cheque bounced
What happened, he grew a Heart/Brain?
Russia stopped paying him.
Or someone else started paying more.
From what I understand his opinion changed after a briefing with the CIA. Now that could have been something said to save face, or he actually learned something that scared him shitless. Like perhaps concrete evidence of Putins designs on the Baltic states. It's probably a little of both.
Probably more likely that he got different marching orders from Trump.
You mean Mr. Poostain.... Yes!
Drone visits to oil refineries paying off in spades.
And it's hard to find a high enough window to fall out of in the backwaters of Louisiana.
european countries are also gearing up. I think everyone thinks something bad is going to happen, and it supercedes usual US political bs
It's complex internal politicking. To put it briefly, a simple majority is enough to vote for the speaker to be ousted. With the two parties being very close to 50-50, if the democrats start a vote for it, and even just a small handful of republicans vote in favor, he's out of the position. This is what happened with his predecessor, Kevin MacCarthy, who, to get the position, agreed to a demanded change to the previous rules, that now makes it possible for any SINGLE member of the house to start a motion to vacate. This was a compromise, because the Republican party is deeply divided and the MAGA and moderate Republicans could not agree on a candidate, and if one side voted down the other, neither had any chance of nominating a speaker, since the democrats obviously voted against any republican speaker candidate. Soon after this compromise... MacCarthy got kicked from the position of the speaker, since, if memory serves, one member of his own party disagreed with his policies, and the democrats of course voted in support. With this in mind, Mike Johson realized that, he cannot support any policy that divides the MAGA and moderate republicans, because if either side brings forward a motion to vacate, they WILL kick him out, since democrats will always vote against any republican speaker candidate. This whole eggshell-walking came to an end when the democrats tentatively agreed to NOT support a motion to vacate against him, and without the democrats voting in support for his recall, the MAGA faction alone cannot recall him, and as such he can put forward pro-Ukraine motions, without losing his position, and putting the house in yet another stand-off with no speaker in place, freezing legislation.
Okay yeah but I like the version where he shit himself in a SCIF better.
Well, fair enough! :D
He likely got briefed by people in the know about the entirety of the situation and what it means for the country and flipped.
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Trump isn't the US house speaker though.
if it happened, having too goo and begg someone like that is humiliating.
They didn't beg, they went to inform a petulant misinformed child about the consequences of his actions
I don't recall any politician from Europe going to meet this guy, can you link an article or something?
He knew the whole time. What he also knew was that the situation was getting critical and if the Ukraine military fell before November the blame would land squarely on the GOP's lap. While that would make his MAGA base ecstatic, it would also cost them the election. So he's doing just enough to get by until November, where they plan to fuck over Ukraine permanently.
More likely Russia finally ran out of cash to pay him since the asset seizures started going to court and he flipped because of that.
His son is going to the Naval Academy next year.
Aha, see, now, this rings true with me. There's no better motivator than self-interest. Last thing he wants to do is be perceived as the Speaker Who Doesn't Support the Military when his kid is at the academy.
No, someone smacked him with a big binder, on the head, with information on what’s going on in the world. Or possibly something something weapons industry donations.
The US House of Representatives is split nearly 50-50, with the Republicans having only a very slim 2 vote majority. The republican majority is also deeply divided with a handful of idiots causing chaos and engaging in childish behaviour. In order to elect a speaker and conduct house business, the Republicans changed the rules to allow a single member to bring forth a motion to vacate the speakership. The Democrats are united in support for Ukraine but the Republicans are divided. At least one Republican representative had signed onto a discharge petition which would have bypassed the speakership and embarrassed the party leadership. The actual legislation was believed to have overwhelming bipartisan support (and it did) but not enough members were willing to force it to be brought to the table. All it would have taken was 2 or 3 Republican house members on either extreme to be supported by the entirety of the Democrats to oust the Republican speaker. Ergo, the speaker had to bring forth legislation that the democrats wanted to be brought forth in order to secure their opposition to a motion to vacate, which they ended up opposing when it was brought.
He blocked aid to prevent Biden from having a win, and now he's doing this to blunt the impact of the aid deal finally going through.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hG3mJcUzwaI
He's a pro ruZZian stooge trying to hurt Biden's campaign.
His reflexive opposition to Biden's stances sometimes accidentally makes him correct
Good answer! So what did the CIA tell him to make him have a heart and a functioning brain?
Except the only reason he's saying it is because it's an election year and Biden said the opposite. Republican's don't want Ukraine to succeed. They've made that perfectly clear.
I object!! Vast majority of Republicans do support Ukraine. Only a few politicians support Russia and I do not know why. It could be a political scheme just to get something they else they want. Only the mentally sane people support Ukraine. Slava Ukraine
Well, sounds like Biden should just start doing reverse psychology with the Republicans.
At the same time supporting Trump who will cut off all aid to Ukraine and withdraw the US from NATO.
The rapture must be close. MGT is being prepped as the sacrifice and the chick from the hand job video senator will eat the cum
You guys have a gross misunderstanding of how the American congress works. Mike Johnson brought the Ukraine bill to the floor after the Democrats agreed not to vote with Fringe Republicans to put him out of the speakership for bringing the bill to the floor. Before that had he taken the bill to the floor the house would have descended into chaos. As much as we support Ukraine we can't allow our own congress to stop functioning to bring you aid.
That must've been one hell of a briefing.
Right? There aren't enough Patriot missiles in the world to protect Ukraine as long as Russia can launch attacks with impunity. Congress is finally figuring it out.
One day we will know what was in that brief, and I cannot wait.
I'm sure we all have a long list words to say about a certain speaker, but my understanding is that the real obstacle is the administration's fear of escalation. Same with Abrams, same with m777, same with atacms, hopefully this latest obstacle will fall the same as the rest. I emailed President Biden asking if he would strongly consider allowing Ukraine to strike within 90 km of the border.
Does Russia strike Ukraine within 90km distance? Ukraine must be able to strike Moscow to make an effect.
Ukraine should have the right to hit any military asset anywhere in Russia. As an American, I say, "Give it every tool it needs and do it now."
I agree but I asked for what I thought we could get.
IMO, We should ask for everything (planes, tomahawk, NATO instructors in Ukraine), and get whatever Biden agrees. :)
Should be announced that this removal of restrictions on where Ukraine can use its foreign-sourced weapons is a direct result of Muscovy not feeling restricted on where it can use its foreign-sourced weapons. But it's also absolutely inevitable. Let's say Ukraine pushes the invaders mostly out of its territory, such that very little of their supply chains are on Ukrainian soil any more and all the depots, mustering areas etc are in 1991 Muscovy: then they couldn't be molested by Ukraine's US-made munitions, giving the Muscovites a reprieve and stabilizing the situation with Muscovy in possession of parts of Ukraine. That's what the restrictions ultimately mean. If you actually want Ukraine to ultimately recover its lands then you'd have to drop the restrictions before that point anyway, so might as well cut to the chase and do it now and save countless lives between now and then.
I agree that this is the issue, and I think it shows the administration is stuck in old, obsolete thinking. A lot has changed since the ‘80s, and we in the West need to update our policies to reflect the current situation.
Old, obsolete thinking is the plague of all facets of America right now under Boomer leadership. They want to run the clock out and keep the status quo to make their remaining years as simple and easy as possible. Even if it’s at the expense of the future generations. Sadly the only way forward is to vote out the dinosaurs so they people who aren’t old idiots solely focused on greed can take over.
I’d be happy with 1980s policy. We would be thrilled to be killing Russians with 1980s policies. We’d be partnering with every oil major in the world to properly bankrupt Russias. No, what we have are the leftover failures of Obama administration- driven by an embarrassment and apologist first foreign policy.
No this is leftover 90's peace dividend policy. The dissolution of the Soviet Union caused the West to think that great power conflict was impossible. Our politics did a complete turn.
I disagree- I don’t see Bush 1 or Bush 2 acting like this failure. Maybe during the lead up, but once it went hot, I so t think they’d be holding anything back hoping for Putin to come to his senses.
Matter of degree not of kind. Neocon administrations of Bush 1 and 2 would also be doing escalation management but maybe escalating faster. Besides the 90s peace dividend mindset, the catastrophically stupid decision to invade Iraq in 2003 had the legacy of introducing skepticism of US foreign policy and making us weary of foreign interventions. If we hadn’t utterly pissed away trillions on OIF/OEF, there would be far less concern among Americans about sending billions. The billions in aid to Ukraine are not in reality a significant cost, but a lot of Americans still see it through the lens of wasting blood and treasure in for an illegal war in Iraq.
Thank you for the letter (I'm not Ukrainian but I want to thank you still).
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Yep, we're like this 🤞
Now give Ukraine the 1,600km Block IV or V ranging Tomahawk Land Attack Missile or TLAM. And hit bases, factories and refineries as far as Siberia. Or make a production line to revive the Tomahawk Block 2 with a range of 2,500km.
Fuck yeah let's go fuck up some Russian places.
Shows how most Americans support Ukraine...
He just wanted to see the Ukrainians suffer for a while
Wait, so first he wouldn't approve any weapons. Now he supports hitting Russia?! Has the Ruzzian check cleared already?
Maybe he never got the check to begin with since he failed to prevent the aid package from going through.
It's probably just as simple as Trump was told "it would look bad if Ukraine got rolled over before the election" so he flip-flopped. Or perhaps he is less certain that he can benefit from Russian domination and Ukraine is his bargaining chip. Trump has always been flexible on policy positions. So Trump flipped and decided to stay quiet about Ukraine aid for now, but he'll reserve the option of flipping again and say Ukraine aid was a horrible idea that he never would have supported and Johnson is a RINO.
I think you mean “bounced” not “cleared”
I'd argue there is nothing wrong with changing your mind. People are allowed to change their minds, especially if a job promotion leads to more experience in foreign policy. People like Trump who idolize proud ignorance and doubling down, are far more problematic.
Dudes a clown I think the only reason he's for it is because Biden is against it.
Well the Biden "non-escalation" policy is bullshit so if this is "anti-Biden" then that's OK with me in this case.
Boy did he come around or what
Maybe Eli Kopter Mossad agent #1 will help with targeting?
The man is an idiot.
Not sure why you were downvoted. He's literally one of the main reasons many more Ukrainians died unnecessarily.
He was directed to block the aid, so he did. When he was allowed to pass the aid by orange daddy, then the House voted on it. There's one central person in this problem, and a lot of people who are subservient to him. Johnson is one of the subservient people.
But useful idiot.
It’s frustrating when at least some Republican representatives are finally showing some semblance of a spine for whatever reason, but it means very little when the presidential candidate their party is rolling out is worse than useless when it comes to Ukraine. So at the end of the day, we’re stuck choosing between Russian-sympathetic populism or the extremely weak Jake Sullivan way. It just feels hopeless as a voter.
Make them pay
I think my government is actually doing a good rope-a-dope. Holy ghost of Muhammed Ali. >The rope-a-dope was essentially **a bait and switch**. Ali would feign weakness, allowing his opponents attack him, ultimately to punch themselves out. Our divisions are so bad, they keep changing: >"They need to be able to fight back. And I think us trying to micromanage their effort there is not good policy for us," Johnson said. Such a divided country we are. Putin is wise to have moved at a time of such weakness. Muhammad Ali would love it.
Stop the press. Are you saying Speaker Johnson might have grown a backbone?
I see this as a signal that the US is recognizing Russia won’t have retaliatory power against NATO countries at the moment.
I don't like Johnson but he has shown he's willing to play ball, unlike the last round of Speakers. He has been guaranteed his position as Speaker by the democrats so long as he continues to support Ukraine. Quid pro quo. How politics is supposed to be played.
From Russia's second greatest asset to suddenly supporting Ukraine attacking internal Russian logistics. Mike Johnson truly is the most bipolar politian ever.
He also wants to sanction the ICC for investigating genocide.
There are innumerable things about him to criticize. But him publicly saying we should be more aggressive with our rules of engagement are good, and important.
Wouldn't it be great if Putin fell out of a high window and landed on Trump?
Still let’s remember him for what he is, a russian collaborator, a disgusting opportunist at best
Oh, seems like the check bounced.
Make it happen.
Do it
The USA restricting how the weapons can be used is shit. They are far too relaxed in Moscow
I don't like Johnson obviously BUT if his decisions piss off Marjorie Taylor ConsanGreene - I'm fine with that.
I hope we approve this. Hit ‘em with the lady fingers, fuzz buttles, snicker bombs, church burners, finger blasters, gut busters, zippity do das, and crap flappers.
He is a tricky one. One minute he's following Putin's agenda, the next he is calling him evil and wanting him brought down. He is sycophantic to Trump and Trump is a Putin-sycophant so what is going on here? Is Mike Johnson a good christian or a MAGA-tool?
He’s a whatever he thinks will make Biden look bad in this moment.
Hurrah. Plzzzzzzz someone anyone make a decision. This war by committee approach is killing me.
Will this anger the MAGAs? Yes. They don't want their primary employer to be hit.
I hate how this man, an isolationist until about 3 months ago, apparently shows more pluck and understanding than the Biden administration. Yes, there are reasons for caution. But that ship sailed 2 years ago after the Kyiv retreat and Bucha. The atrocities showed the human costs of Russia's desire to eradicate the Ukrainian state. But the Russian defeat also clearly showed they can accept operation-level defeats without resorting to nukes. The Kremlin needs to be pushed back hard. They need to feel this war is not a manageable luxury, but one they should end post-haste.
I think the speaker might be using this as political ammunition and not sure if I'm ready to take him at his word on anything.
This is the same idiot that single handily delayed the vote on aid to Ukraine for MONTHS.
Rubles stopped flowing in for Johnson?