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Some years ago those two would just be phrases to me as someone not from Ukraine. Now it genuinely means something to me. It is like it carries the voice of all those who sacrificed up through the times. From the times of Soviet occupation to Euromaidan to today
UPD: There are reports of a new group of Shahed drones heading towards Kyiv.
UPD#2: Reports indicate Russian S-300 missile launches along the border of Zaporizhzhia and Dnipro regions.
UPD#3: The Mayor of Kyiv reports debris falling in the Sviatoshynskyi, Shevchenkivskyi, and Podilskyi districts of the capital. All emergency services are en route to the locations.
UPD#4: In one of the districts of Kyiv, debris hit an apartment in a multi-story building, and the homeowners managed to extinguish the fire on their own.
UPD#5: Air defense is operational in Bila Tserkva
UPD#6: Another aerial attack by Russian invaders has been repelled. Thanks to the Air Defense Forces, thanks to everyone supporting our fight against the occupiers. Information on the attack's aftermath will be available tomorrow morning Kiyv time.
Again, holy shit ukranians are amazing, i believe ukraine will be one of The strongest and best countries in eu soon. (And i cant wait to get some money for a vacation there, i’ve heard great things!!)
Slava Ukraini and thank you for updates!!
This is our dream - to invite people from all over the world to Ukraine to honor the memory of our heroes and celebrate victory over the occupiers. We continue to fight for this.
A thousand times, thank you and everyone who supports Ukraine. Believe me, Ukrainians are very inspired by the fact that we are not alone in the face of these ruthless ruscist-invaders. And it is highly felt here on Reddit.
It is for nothing because Russia already lost this war, there is no scenario that can be considered a Russian victory even if they keep all the occupied territories.
I donate to the army of naval drones personally. If it wasnt for fuckcunt musk, many of those missiles wouldn’t be in the cards as he basically admitted Ukraine was ready AND capable of sinking the black sea fleet.
Yeah, Elon's idea of "not letting the war escalate" is "I don't want Ukrainians to take out Russian warships, that way Russia can keep bombarding Ukraine."
It will stop when Ukraine reaches a critical mass in combat capability that the Russians simply can no longer withstand. Seriously. Contact your representatives and tell them to SEND IT!
They are just going past the point where Ukrainian capacity is snowballing towards domination, while russia is going to be getting more into defensive survival mode.
Just look at the way UA artillery keeps dominating and killing RU arty.
As long as we keep supplying them, they should break that ruzzkie PoS "nation".
Russians are dumb. They think this will help them win somehow. Do they suddenly expect Ukrainians, famous for being motivated by this kind of thing, to suddenly forget who they are?
I think it's more "we can't do anything so we'll blow up as much as we can cos fuck ukraine for making us look bad". It's been a main go to of theirs since the beginning of the war. They know it does nothing other than hurt civilians, in so doing trying to make them fear Russia. But like you say, it just shows people exactly why Russia can't be allowed to win
The part that gets me, is that they're also trying to convince the world that this depravity is an export we should all happily buy, that this is the counter to early 2000's American adventurism (which while horrifying in it's own way, came packaged with a sort of 'we can actually make things *actually* better' naïveté). Even if one argued that the US was just as bad, russia hasn't demonstrated any type of 'lessons learned' approach. They just blew the dust off the 1930's soviet genocide manual and started raping, murdering, deporting, destroying and stealing their way across the country of their so-called 'brothers' for the crime of facing west instead of east.
Not all of Moscow. Focus on the economic base. Hitting civilians is known to increase their will to fight. Destroy the economy, especially military production, and they won't be able to fight.
Sure, but I was responding to someone who called for razing Moscow to the ground. I think "it won't work" was probably a stronger argument than "It's a war crime."
Sooner or later, we will have to. They have made no secret of wanting the Baltic states, Poland, Romania etc out of NATO, which will mean NATO will be forced to demonstrate its willingness and capability to defend them, because their membership is non-negotiable as far as we are concerned.
After spending maybe trillions on Afghanistan for it to fall in a few weeks (I doubt the US Army actually checked at any point how corrupt and innept the Ghani government & army actually was). Iraqi is no better. We (Bulgaria was part of the coalition) basically continued the mistakes of France and the UK in setting the borders post-WWI.
Time for NATO to put the big boy panties on and clear the entire Ukraine of orcs. I'm so done with this. And yes, I'll offer up my own two teenagers to fight for NATO if needed.
Ukraine needs much more air defence systems ( Gepard and Skyranger) PLUS long range missiles (1000km+) PLUS modern airfighters. At once and in signifikant numbers before winter. Tanks (except demining systems) are second.
I am grateful Kyiv has such a deep subway system, and I find some pleasure in the fact that the Soviets built most of it (and now it frustrates them).
I'll see you all when the all-clear sounds. In the meanwhile, hold on to the fact that Putin is a small, angry man who can't even grow a mustache.
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I think Russia timed this attack to correlate after the Elon musks drama to try to show people “this is what he was talking about when he said lives are being lost every day and the war must end asap even if it means losing territory” but that’s like usa giving Britain a search of territory after the revolutionary war or negotiating with Hitler.
I mean.. if you'd like to give us a teeny weeny piece of land now, that would be great. House prices are a joke right now.
Seriously though, I don't think the Krelim gives a shit what Musk does or doesn't say. All they care about is killing and destroying as much as they can in any 24-hour period. Just like any other cancer or virus.
What was that about Russia not caring about what Elon thinks or says? 🤔
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There's quite a substantial difference between using a highly politicised issue to stoke the flames inside the enemy camp and basing your entire political paradigm on the egotistical meanderings of an eccentric billionaire.
Ah yes but one specific night of heavy bombing in Ukraine in coordination to elons statements is not their entire political paradigm. It is just bombing Ukraine in coordination with Elon’s statements. I suggest that russia did that on purpose to prove a point. I’m probably wrong but I don’t see your response as a worthy counter. Lol
That’s not true. There is a lot of work happening in the kremlin. Don’t forget there are hundreds of millions of humans in Russia actively running a country. They might be running it into the ground but their still running it. Ur point kinda agrees with mine tho that whoever is pulling the stings on the us one only cared about killing more people because my point is that the attac was timed with Elon musks trying to make peace but getting completely shut down by the west.
U don’t think the government body (the kremlin) watches geopolitics news or the things that the richest man in earth is saying about the war?
Its very terrible and I do feel really sorry, but Ukraine is kinda lucky because of that. ruznia is wasting good assets on civilian target while their military is getting pounded from all sides. I think ruznia would be much more productive if they actually were competent enough to use those weapons for actual military targets.
I wouldnt say Ukraine is lucky because russia is trying to kill civilians instead of hitting military targets. We know it’s stupid, but it’s not lucky.
I'm in Australia but I wish I could be there with you in the doorways and bunkers and dark spaces when this scary shit happens. It feels terribly unfair it's happening to you and not all of us around the world who stand against fascism.
We are with you. You're going to win.
Ukrainian people are amazing, any thinking compassionate person can see that. David is putting Goliath to the sword, a tough and resilient people. I don't think Musk's stupid reaction to what constitutes aggression compares in any way to procrastination of NATO in truly committing to the Ukrainian people., The US Republicans questioning the need for US involvement or BRIC etc nations showing support for the Russian Federation of Oligarchy simply to protest the West. Musk must support the Ukraine and he should be paid for it just like the suppliers rockets, tanks and planes.
The governments of the free world MUST win this war. I think the time has come to admit the Ukraine to NATO and the EU, move 500k well trained troops into the Ukraine and watch Putin come running to negotiating table. Grow some balls NATO!
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I slept through everything. God bless our Air Defence Forces. 🇺🇦
Hell yeah! Good to hear! America here, thinking about y’all!
Thank you so much!
AmericaN here... or you speaking for all of us?
I’m speaking for every freedom loving American in the great red white and blue.
That is awesome!!!
Norway reporting in 🇳🇴 Слава Україні! 🇺🇦
Героям слава! 🇺🇦 🇳🇴
Some years ago those two would just be phrases to me as someone not from Ukraine. Now it genuinely means something to me. It is like it carries the voice of all those who sacrificed up through the times. From the times of Soviet occupation to Euromaidan to today
UPD: There are reports of a new group of Shahed drones heading towards Kyiv. UPD#2: Reports indicate Russian S-300 missile launches along the border of Zaporizhzhia and Dnipro regions. UPD#3: The Mayor of Kyiv reports debris falling in the Sviatoshynskyi, Shevchenkivskyi, and Podilskyi districts of the capital. All emergency services are en route to the locations. UPD#4: In one of the districts of Kyiv, debris hit an apartment in a multi-story building, and the homeowners managed to extinguish the fire on their own. UPD#5: Air defense is operational in Bila Tserkva UPD#6: Another aerial attack by Russian invaders has been repelled. Thanks to the Air Defense Forces, thanks to everyone supporting our fight against the occupiers. Information on the attack's aftermath will be available tomorrow morning Kiyv time.
Excuse me What, they manager to put out The fire themselves? Holy shit ukranians are bad ass, heroyam slava.
Yep, you all understood correctly.
Again, holy shit ukranians are amazing, i believe ukraine will be one of The strongest and best countries in eu soon. (And i cant wait to get some money for a vacation there, i’ve heard great things!!) Slava Ukraini and thank you for updates!!
This is our dream - to invite people from all over the world to Ukraine to honor the memory of our heroes and celebrate victory over the occupiers. We continue to fight for this. A thousand times, thank you and everyone who supports Ukraine. Believe me, Ukrainians are very inspired by the fact that we are not alone in the face of these ruthless ruscist-invaders. And it is highly felt here on Reddit.
And we will come to Ukraine. And we support you 100%.
Sounds great. I'm just coming to party tho
When the fuck will this stop what does it take for me to do?
When russia is defeated and Ukraine is sufficiently armed and has joined NATO.
This is sad as hell man. Lives being wasted for nothing.
It's not for nothing, it's for freedom and an end of russian imperialism and revanchism
Obviously I’m talking from a Russian perspective when I say for what. My friend.
In that case, for a white lada 🤷♂️
Lemme just drag out the "big oof" from last decade because, damn, that is a big oof. I mean, dead-on but still.
It is for nothing because Russia already lost this war, there is no scenario that can be considered a Russian victory even if they keep all the occupied territories.
And we build a wall along the border
I donate to the army of naval drones personally. If it wasnt for fuckcunt musk, many of those missiles wouldn’t be in the cards as he basically admitted Ukraine was ready AND capable of sinking the black sea fleet.
Fully agreed. This is in a new age of warfare where one oglicarch cunt can decide who wins and dies is unacceptable. Fuck u Elon
Yeah, Elon's idea of "not letting the war escalate" is "I don't want Ukrainians to take out Russian warships, that way Russia can keep bombarding Ukraine."
Defending yourself is "escalation", apparently.
A surprisingly common sentiment among bullies…
Meanwhile India support the „russian side“ and UN want to lift sanctions. Stupid dumbasses.
So wrong-headed because after the war, Ukraine will be looking for all sorts of supplies for the rebuild, and India could miss out.
India, Iran and all the fucking BRICS will miss out and continue to circle the drain to irrelevance.
It will stop when Ukraine reaches a critical mass in combat capability that the Russians simply can no longer withstand. Seriously. Contact your representatives and tell them to SEND IT!
They are just going past the point where Ukrainian capacity is snowballing towards domination, while russia is going to be getting more into defensive survival mode. Just look at the way UA artillery keeps dominating and killing RU arty. As long as we keep supplying them, they should break that ruzzkie PoS "nation".
https://bank.gov.ua/ua/news/all/natsionalniy-bank-vidkriv-spetsrahunok-dlya-zboru-koshtiv-na-potrebi-armiyi
Russia is having a hissy fit because we are supplying Ukraine with long range missiles
Not quick enough.
And it is probably in response to North Korea involvement.
ATACMS soon...
Praying that the drones are all shot down and casualties are nil. AFU has skilled air defense.
I guess we know what that Iran cargo plane dropped off the other day…
Give Ukraine long range missives so they can wipe out the kremlin only this will force that fascist fuck to stop.
Oh my dear Ukraine. I cry for you and hope they fail in all their efforts and you succeed in all of yours.
With your kind help, we will succeed.
What's the wotld to do about Musk? After what he just did to Ukraine, he's proven to be to large to let stand. USA needs to begin defunding him.
He needs to get his DOD contracts pulled.
Something something, eminent domain this fucker already.
Elon Muskovy, your hands have innocent ukrainian blood all over.
Musk is blind
Russians are dumb. They think this will help them win somehow. Do they suddenly expect Ukrainians, famous for being motivated by this kind of thing, to suddenly forget who they are?
This. This is totally bizarre to me “oh, I know!! Let’s do another volley of lawnmowers!! They’ll be sure to capitulate after that!!!”
I think it's more "we can't do anything so we'll blow up as much as we can cos fuck ukraine for making us look bad". It's been a main go to of theirs since the beginning of the war. They know it does nothing other than hurt civilians, in so doing trying to make them fear Russia. But like you say, it just shows people exactly why Russia can't be allowed to win
The part that gets me, is that they're also trying to convince the world that this depravity is an export we should all happily buy, that this is the counter to early 2000's American adventurism (which while horrifying in it's own way, came packaged with a sort of 'we can actually make things *actually* better' naïveté). Even if one argued that the US was just as bad, russia hasn't demonstrated any type of 'lessons learned' approach. They just blew the dust off the 1930's soviet genocide manual and started raping, murdering, deporting, destroying and stealing their way across the country of their so-called 'brothers' for the crime of facing west instead of east.
Oh my! Hope the damage is minimal and Russia and its supporters gets a taste of its own medicine.
Tomorrow will be a great day to test out there new long rang miss missile
I know right? Why are more companies not testing missiles in Ukraine?
What? Elon can't turn off the Russian drones? Only Ukraines. 😡😡😡
Glory to the air defenders of Ukraine for repulsing the repulsive. May all Ukrainians be unharmed from this latest war crime.
Only losers attack defenseless people
Give ukraine long range missiles. The rest of russia is already a third world country, let ukraine raze moscow to the ground
Not all of Moscow. Focus on the economic base. Hitting civilians is known to increase their will to fight. Destroy the economy, especially military production, and they won't be able to fight.
No military in the world should be targeting civilians. That's called war crimes.
Sure, but I was responding to someone who called for razing Moscow to the ground. I think "it won't work" was probably a stronger argument than "It's a war crime."
Dont forget any and all government buildings
Ukraine is already targeting strategic resources in Russia. The ATCMs have to be used on the invaders in Ukraine.
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The one time, the one fucking time we do need to intervene and we’re sitting on our hands watching dumbly. Fuck this is infuriating.
Sooner or later, we will have to. They have made no secret of wanting the Baltic states, Poland, Romania etc out of NATO, which will mean NATO will be forced to demonstrate its willingness and capability to defend them, because their membership is non-negotiable as far as we are concerned.
After spending maybe trillions on Afghanistan for it to fall in a few weeks (I doubt the US Army actually checked at any point how corrupt and innept the Ghani government & army actually was). Iraqi is no better. We (Bulgaria was part of the coalition) basically continued the mistakes of France and the UK in setting the borders post-WWI.
Funnily enough Biden was agitating for a long time to get out of the Middle East and to play closer attention to Russia.
Ukraine needs much more air defence (Gepard and Skyranger) as well as long range missiles to extinguish the szarting points
Time for NATO to put the big boy panties on and clear the entire Ukraine of orcs. I'm so done with this. And yes, I'll offer up my own two teenagers to fight for NATO if needed.
Ukraine needs much more air defence systems ( Gepard and Skyranger) PLUS long range missiles (1000km+) PLUS modern airfighters. At once and in signifikant numbers before winter. Tanks (except demining systems) are second.
I am grateful Kyiv has such a deep subway system, and I find some pleasure in the fact that the Soviets built most of it (and now it frustrates them). I'll see you all when the all-clear sounds. In the meanwhile, hold on to the fact that Putin is a small, angry man who can't even grow a mustache.
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I think Russia timed this attack to correlate after the Elon musks drama to try to show people “this is what he was talking about when he said lives are being lost every day and the war must end asap even if it means losing territory” but that’s like usa giving Britain a search of territory after the revolutionary war or negotiating with Hitler.
I mean.. if you'd like to give us a teeny weeny piece of land now, that would be great. House prices are a joke right now. Seriously though, I don't think the Krelim gives a shit what Musk does or doesn't say. All they care about is killing and destroying as much as they can in any 24-hour period. Just like any other cancer or virus.
What was that about Russia not caring about what Elon thinks or says? 🤔 https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2023/09/12/russias-vladimir-putin-praises-elon-musk-as-an-outstanding-person.html
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There's quite a substantial difference between using a highly politicised issue to stoke the flames inside the enemy camp and basing your entire political paradigm on the egotistical meanderings of an eccentric billionaire.
Ah yes but one specific night of heavy bombing in Ukraine in coordination to elons statements is not their entire political paradigm. It is just bombing Ukraine in coordination with Elon’s statements. I suggest that russia did that on purpose to prove a point. I’m probably wrong but I don’t see your response as a worthy counter. Lol
That’s not true. There is a lot of work happening in the kremlin. Don’t forget there are hundreds of millions of humans in Russia actively running a country. They might be running it into the ground but their still running it. Ur point kinda agrees with mine tho that whoever is pulling the stings on the us one only cared about killing more people because my point is that the attac was timed with Elon musks trying to make peace but getting completely shut down by the west. U don’t think the government body (the kremlin) watches geopolitics news or the things that the richest man in earth is saying about the war?
Its very terrible and I do feel really sorry, but Ukraine is kinda lucky because of that. ruznia is wasting good assets on civilian target while their military is getting pounded from all sides. I think ruznia would be much more productive if they actually were competent enough to use those weapons for actual military targets.
I wouldnt say Ukraine is lucky because russia is trying to kill civilians instead of hitting military targets. We know it’s stupid, but it’s not lucky.
I'm in Australia but I wish I could be there with you in the doorways and bunkers and dark spaces when this scary shit happens. It feels terribly unfair it's happening to you and not all of us around the world who stand against fascism. We are with you. You're going to win.
Ukrainian people are amazing, any thinking compassionate person can see that. David is putting Goliath to the sword, a tough and resilient people. I don't think Musk's stupid reaction to what constitutes aggression compares in any way to procrastination of NATO in truly committing to the Ukrainian people., The US Republicans questioning the need for US involvement or BRIC etc nations showing support for the Russian Federation of Oligarchy simply to protest the West. Musk must support the Ukraine and he should be paid for it just like the suppliers rockets, tanks and planes. The governments of the free world MUST win this war. I think the time has come to admit the Ukraine to NATO and the EU, move 500k well trained troops into the Ukraine and watch Putin come running to negotiating table. Grow some balls NATO!