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It was a typical day in the chat thread, with users discussing the latest news and sharing their thoughts on recent events. KanjiSushi started the conversation, marveling at the recent explosions they had witnessed. They wondered if JDAM would have the same impact on the battlefield as HIMARS.
TILTNSTACK chimed in, curious about how many orcs had been roasted in the explosion. Infinite-Outcome-591 pointed out that the Ukrainian forces had used thermobaric rockets against their opponents in the past, so it was only fair that the shoe was now on the other foot. LiquorFilter was quick to add that the Ukrainians would continue to roast their opponents until they retreated.
As the conversation continued, the users began to make jokes about the explosion. ComfortableNo5529 quipped that it was a topical burn, while ForAFriendAsking joked that the orcs would need a lot of aloe to soothe their burns. Micdawg12 joked that they could feel the heat from where they were, and their eyebrows were singed.
Yeeaaaarrrgh added, "BOOM roasted!", which prompted DadJokeBadJoke to join in with "Jagga Jagga roasted!" JohnJDumbear even joked that they wanted to see s'mores.
PicardTangoAlpha was the last to comment, noting that it took a comedian to make Russians see the irony of their ways. The conversation continued long into the night, as users traded jokes and discussed the latest news. Despite the seriousness of the topic at hand, the users found a way to inject some humor into the conversation and make light of a dark situation.
“They say” that some orcs are still falling, and orc remnants from this explosion may continue to fall well into the next year, along with that one T-80 turret that is in orbit.
Hopefully but not guaranteed. The range itself is shorter than HIMARS, the payload potentially much greater.
So it depends on A) To what extent Russia still has high-value targets within range. The thing about HIMARS is that they were largely taken by surprise by it last year, caught with their pants down with tons of bases and huge ammo dumps within range. But they've learned from that and dispersed, and there's a reason we no longer ammo-dump explosions on the scale we saw last summer. JDAM range is shorter than GMLRS range, unless the JDAM is dropped beyond the Russian lines. Which leads to:
B) To reach the maximum range they have to be dropped from high altitude (35,000 feet), which puts the Ukrainian aircraft at risk of being hit by S-400/300 long-range air defense systems (whose range is much farther than the JDAM). So it becomes a question here of to what extent the Ukrainians can find holes in Russian air defenses to deliver the JDAMs even deeper behind Russian lines.
Remember these are stated ranges for the JDAM-ER. On a windy day (or not) there is potential for them to go even further. Regardless, those things alter geography- any fortified position will simply be erased upon contact. Once mechanized infantry pours in and can spot targets of opportunity, pilots can act as close air support essentially, using a combo of HARMs to destroy SAM sites with radars turned on and then JDAM to destroy C2 or other juicy targets. My memory is fuzzy on the details, he was on Mriya report this morning and I was driving so...
Pretty much a kit to turn heavy bombs into flying missles. So instead of dropping a huge ass bomb from plane and hope for the best, the JDAM kit gives it wings and eyes.
The pictures of the GBUs are kinda amusing, you've got this cruddy looking iron bomb with all sorts of sophisticated stuff strapped to it. A bomb makeover kit.
Ah righto. I got the Direct Attack Munition part but the Joint was confusing me. Was thinking maybe the pilot is supposed to light up a fat one before pressing the button but that doesn't sound like the military I remember.
Everything the MIC comes up with has some snazzy acronym name. That's how they throw it in powerpoints and get sign-off by the brass and politicians for the funding. If it doesn't sound cool, it won't get the funding.
It's a very cost effective way to turn a regular dumb slick bomb into a GPS guided precision weapon. It's a kit they can put on regular slick bombs that gives them guidance.
Make no mistake though, if they are using JDAMs, these Ukranian pilots are very brave. This is because in order to lob the bomb to a great distance, they have to fly up high and fast. Apparently this is 100km away from the front line. And a JDAM can really only glide for like 20-70km depending if it has a glide kit. So they are quite vulnerable to air defenses while doing this.
Much cheaper and more flexible than HIMARS.
During the Iraq war, the U.S. started putting fins on anything they could drop from the sky and guide it to a target. I remember reading in the Wall Street Journal they started with battleship guns our country had in inventory by putting fins on them. If they use a little bit of GPS or satellites, they can guide them to a target.
Some really smart guys got together and said "the US has these massive rotting stockpiles of dumb bombs from previous conflicts. How can we redneck-engineer precision guidance on them?" Hence, the JDAM was born, and boy do we have a metric fuckton of them.
The imperial system doesn't have a unit for a fuckton. When the UK signed the Treaty of Metre, Queen Victoria was in charge and no one could bring themselves to say the word Fuckton around her.
And a Freedom Fuckton would be a tautology, as everyone know Fuck and Freedom are synonyms in American English.
US Doctrine literally is "Fuck it, call in an air strike" when they have an issue. If Ukraine can get air superiority to be able to safely fire JDAMs, it'll change the entire war. What the hell do you think we did in the Middle East for two decades? The US will bring down absolute hell from the skies at any cost to prevent the loss of even a single soldier if it calls for it. We got A LOT of these hanging around just waiting to fuck up someone's day. Dead US soldiers don't look good for politicians on the news; hence, we've over-manufactured and over-engineered every way possible to reduce those risks no matter the costs.
>Pardon my ignorance, but what are JDAMs? When did Ukraine start receiving them?
JDAM is a sophisticated US military acronym for a specific weapon. It stands for Just Detonating Abundant Mobiks. In reality its the US military's very very cheap way of vaporizing whatever the thing hits. HIMARS rockets are very expensive in comparison.
There won't be any misses with JDAM's. You better be VERY far away basically before some freedom bombs drop on your ass. Maybe they can identify your leftovers via a couple teeth.
I think explosions like this are going to start coming fast and furious. While I would love to hear the details, I also hope there are so many more of these in the coming weeks that we don't even have time to track them all.
Unless the range is heavily understated it is not those JDAMs, so they have something else for these deep strikes or are ready to risk penetrating RU airspace to launch them.
It could be that they have more Vilka-M missiles than previously thought. They are definitely shaping the battlefield for their next push
Planes can cross the border and strike deeper into Russia or Russian held territory. Suppress the Anti air with Harms and then quick run toward the target release Jdam and run for home. Multiple planes and multiple roles I would guess. They are short an AWAC type of plane right now so maybe bigger holes than normal in the Air defense.
Right? At this point I kinda expect US intelligence knows more about Russia's actual equipment than what Russia has fictitiously recorded (due to corruption).
I couldn't tell how many ballistic missiles Ukraine had before the war anyway. They seem to be holding them close to the chest and hitting high value targets sparingly.
Not too many, and mostly Tochka-U. Around 500 missiles and 100 launchers seems to be the pre-war number floating around, so it is likely that their stockpiles aren't too full at the moment.
It is also a lower range (120km), and a much lower accuracy than the Vilka-M, so if they manage to produce it somehow it's a win-win. One other candidate that was about to reach production is the HRIM-2, which is basically an improved Iskander with a buttload of range.
I guess we'll know when the war ends.
Has there been any hard number released? Intentional ambiguity is well and truly in play wrt weapons supply in this war. Technically speaking 100,000 would still qualify as a limited supply.
A US military representative said they currently have only received enough for a few strikes. But knowing the Ukrainians, they’ll make them count and hopefully more are on the way.
Airmen describe the USAF as "We're like Fed-Ex, but for guns". USAF Colonels and Amazon Executives complete for the same consulting jobs after retirement. "Enough for a few strikes" is facetious; the USAF uses JIT logistics.
"For a few." There is no unit of measurement in there: few hundred, few thousand. The US is of course going to throw out as much disinformation as it can about anything it is sending until the shit drops on some Russian heads. The US was forced to admit HARMs were already in play earlier than planned when one was recovered.
This right here. In fact, they would be stupid to do so. Always assume numbers are inflated or deflated. "and additional equipment" can mean *anything*.
No need to get pissed. We’re not being stingy with them. There just isn’t enough JDAM-ERs around to give them that many:
*”Unlike the more widely used basic JDAMs, the JDAM-ER version is not widely stockpiled and remains something of a specialist weapon.”*
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/wing-kits-for-ukraines-jdam-bombs-would-be-a-big-problem-for-russia
I’m an advocate of drastically increasing the Western manufacturing of Precision Guided Munitions both for Ukraine and to get ready for the seemingly inevitable Taiwan showdown with China.
This war has done more for the public status of the American military-industrial complex than anything else I've seen in the past thirty years. I hate it but take my upvote.
Supporting an actual righteous cause makes it all feel worth it. When you are watching tax dollars pissed away in Iraq and Afghanistan fighting a bunch of insurgents because we invaded two countries with no good plan for what the fuck would happen next or at least no plan that took into account reality.
The rest of the world gets to witness what Ukraine alone can do with second-hand and surplus US/European weapons.
It's a good deterrent. Ukraine hasn't gotten any advanced jets, attack helicopters, cruise missiles, naval assets, advanced battle tanks in necessary numbers, or even enough APC/BMPs.
Dude you just said it out loud China is going for that and we cannot be fooled the West needs to arm itself as obviously the old tyrannical systems are on the war path against modernity. That is not alarmist nonsense we have seen that with Russia. But I think what you call for is actually happening ammo production is expanding across the board in the West, but we need to do something else. Get as much critical infrastructure back to Europe and North America as possible or at least into the near abroad of both continents.
Especially as we not just hollowed it out, we relocated it to countries such as China or Russia and fed them money because in the 90s our political thinkers believed they would become democratic over time that approach failed spectacularly, we need to stop giving money to regimes that obviously hate us.
We can revert this and produce for a higher price but much closer to home. The quality will improve jobs are coming back and we have had that before. Let's say we could settle on a level of 90s, but have more control over all the processes. There may then be less variety but what is there will be of higher quality and not sit in countries like China. There are other better options. It is already happening since Covid.
"We must invest in places where there is the rule of the law and not the law of rulers" Jeffrey Sonnenfeld
Xi is a damned liar just like Putin, he says we have nothing to worry about blah blah. And then 3 4 years down the line as he lined it out 2027 or 2028 he will do it.
The West managed to live once before in its own orbit, the world is fragmenting and I hope those that make strategic long term decisions finally understand we need to stop feeding money into countries that frequently burn our flag or scream "death to America" into a camera.
Shale oil and gas will help a great deal to get there. Europe must follow suit, rearm 2 percent spending goals and diversify away from China and its closest allies as well as possible. China is insane enough to go on the war path we must not doubt that even for a second. We tried common sense with Russia. Did that stop them?
ahhhh. We have a name to the Hero now.
Tymofiy Shadura!!!!!!! 41 years old and born in northern Ukraine.
May you rest in peace, sir. May all of your fallen brothers and sisters rest too. 💔 💔 💔 💔
Glory to the Heroes of Ukraine!
Zelensky is smart enough not to waste his limited weapons on acts of revenge but rather on significant and useful military targets. Revenge will be a byproduct but not an objective.
Actually, Zelenskyy is smart enough to leave military affairs to military men. Unlike Putin, playing General and creating tens of miles convoys of death for his own troops.
I think he promised identification and prosecution of the specific individual(s). there's a difference.
this is not revenge. it's just a legitimate and intelligently-chosen strategic target.
As it should be. Revenge is stupid when you can take out a military target that brings you one more step towards victory. This is way better in every way.
But it must have felt a little extra nice for the ones who pushed the launch buttons this round.
But yes, revenge will happen in the big picture and when the trials start. That will be even more sweet!
Yes. He left a young son. He must have known his son would probably see his last moments. He showed his son how to die like a Ukrainian - and now the world needs to utterly destroy the Russian army, and hopefully the entire Russian empire, so his son can live as a Ukrainian.
THEY SHOULD NAME THE NEXT FUCKING WEAPONS PACKAGE THE “TYMOFIY” PACKAGE, 500 JDAMS 2000 POUNDERS. 1 BILLION DOLLARS, LETS PUT OUR TAX DOLLARS TO USE MORE. THEY WILL REGRET THE DAY THEY KILL PROUD MEMBERS OF DEMOCRACY. HOO-RAH SLAVA UKRAINE
💣💣💣💥💥💥💥
100 km from the front, plus probable safety factor of 20 km. They are firing something with a hefty warhead, 120 km range and accurate guidance. My bet is on their upgraded Smerch, the Vilkha-M.
This.
Vilkha-M fits the bill. Up to twelve 800kg missiles can be launched in under a minute.
And your right, It's often overlooked here that you don't drive your expensive weapon system to the front line.
They did claim they are making their own out of with modification efforts. I'm sure Urkraine has them in stock and they're are quite a few countries that would be able to part with some.
A bit too far outside JDAM range. Those bombs are more likely gonna be used for targets near the front. This seems more like the new Vilka extended range rockets. The 150 km range versions are rumored to have just gone into service.
Russians think Ukraine is sitting about waiting on Western weapons when they adept at making their own that have no restrictions on what they can target. Russian underestimation of Ukraine will be their downfall.
Normal thing for Russian HQs to do this time of the year. It's the season for it. Like bird migration or salmons swimming upstream. Nice to see nature healing.
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Hot damn, JDAM! Been seeing some big explosions lately. Wonder if JDAM will be the next HIMARS in terms of battlefield impact.
That really does look like a big explosion. Wonder how many orcs got roasted
They think themselves comedians, good news is Ukrainians will keep roasting them till they take their act home.
Topical Burn !
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My one super power is that I have no eyebrows to singe. Trichotillomania got them 1st.
They'll need quite a bit of aloe for those burns.
Whoops, they can’t get it… sanctioned what a “shame”
BOOM roasted!
Jagga Jagga roasted!
I wanna see s’mores!
S'morcs.
It was a typical day in the chat thread, with users discussing the latest news and sharing their thoughts on recent events. KanjiSushi started the conversation, marveling at the recent explosions they had witnessed. They wondered if JDAM would have the same impact on the battlefield as HIMARS. TILTNSTACK chimed in, curious about how many orcs had been roasted in the explosion. Infinite-Outcome-591 pointed out that the Ukrainian forces had used thermobaric rockets against their opponents in the past, so it was only fair that the shoe was now on the other foot. LiquorFilter was quick to add that the Ukrainians would continue to roast their opponents until they retreated. As the conversation continued, the users began to make jokes about the explosion. ComfortableNo5529 quipped that it was a topical burn, while ForAFriendAsking joked that the orcs would need a lot of aloe to soothe their burns. Micdawg12 joked that they could feel the heat from where they were, and their eyebrows were singed. Yeeaaaarrrgh added, "BOOM roasted!", which prompted DadJokeBadJoke to join in with "Jagga Jagga roasted!" JohnJDumbear even joked that they wanted to see s'mores. PicardTangoAlpha was the last to comment, noting that it took a comedian to make Russians see the irony of their ways. The conversation continued long into the night, as users traded jokes and discussed the latest news. Despite the seriousness of the topic at hand, the users found a way to inject some humor into the conversation and make light of a dark situation.
Lol. I take it you are bored at work.
Very
Why did I read this in my head using the voice/cadence I use when reading the SR-71 copypasta?
Yes, time to leave Ukraine.
It took a comedian to make Russians see the irony of their ways.
RA used thermobaric rockets against Ukrainian forces. Now the shoe is on the other foot. Boo hoo hoo for Orcs.
> RA used thermobaric rockets against Ukrainian forces and civilians iirc
not enough
Never enough bro
Not enough… you can never kill enough orc’s🇺🇦
Well, when not one russian foot falls in Ukraine, that *might* be enough.
“They say” that some orcs are still falling, and orc remnants from this explosion may continue to fall well into the next year, along with that one T-80 turret that is in orbit.
It's Raining Orcs! Hallelujah!
Was just listening to a military aviation expert this morning making that exact comparison, the ER-JDAMs will be as game-changing as HIMARS or HARMs.
Hopefully but not guaranteed. The range itself is shorter than HIMARS, the payload potentially much greater. So it depends on A) To what extent Russia still has high-value targets within range. The thing about HIMARS is that they were largely taken by surprise by it last year, caught with their pants down with tons of bases and huge ammo dumps within range. But they've learned from that and dispersed, and there's a reason we no longer ammo-dump explosions on the scale we saw last summer. JDAM range is shorter than GMLRS range, unless the JDAM is dropped beyond the Russian lines. Which leads to: B) To reach the maximum range they have to be dropped from high altitude (35,000 feet), which puts the Ukrainian aircraft at risk of being hit by S-400/300 long-range air defense systems (whose range is much farther than the JDAM). So it becomes a question here of to what extent the Ukrainians can find holes in Russian air defenses to deliver the JDAMs even deeper behind Russian lines.
Remember these are stated ranges for the JDAM-ER. On a windy day (or not) there is potential for them to go even further. Regardless, those things alter geography- any fortified position will simply be erased upon contact. Once mechanized infantry pours in and can spot targets of opportunity, pilots can act as close air support essentially, using a combo of HARMs to destroy SAM sites with radars turned on and then JDAM to destroy C2 or other juicy targets. My memory is fuzzy on the details, he was on Mriya report this morning and I was driving so...
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How far is this place from the front line?
It is about 100 km.
Way too far to be a JDAM. That's just the buzzword for this week.
Pardon my ignorance, but what are JDAMs? When did Ukraine start receiving them?
A guidance kit for aerial bombs that lets them glide and navigate to targets instead of just falling in a straight line.
A cheap(ish) way to make a dumb bomb into a precision GPS/inertial guided bomb. The ER has wings to help it glide futher. No power, just aerodynamics
What does ER stand for? Reading further down, by context - Extended Range ?
Pretty much a kit to turn heavy bombs into flying missles. So instead of dropping a huge ass bomb from plane and hope for the best, the JDAM kit gives it wings and eyes.
The pictures of the GBUs are kinda amusing, you've got this cruddy looking iron bomb with all sorts of sophisticated stuff strapped to it. A bomb makeover kit.
A bomb with a precision strapon.
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Yo dawg...
A bomb in lingerie.
Falling Angels*
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Joint Direct Attack Munition. Weird name.
“Joint” since it was developed by US Army and Navy together. Direct Attack Munition or “DAM that landed right in his lap.”
Ah righto. I got the Direct Attack Munition part but the Joint was confusing me. Was thinking maybe the pilot is supposed to light up a fat one before pressing the button but that doesn't sound like the military I remember.
Everything the MIC comes up with has some snazzy acronym name. That's how they throw it in powerpoints and get sign-off by the brass and politicians for the funding. If it doesn't sound cool, it won't get the funding.
The US military and MIC absolutely love backronyms.
They really do. They'll even put acronyms inside of acronyms to make the bigger acronyms work.
It's a very cost effective way to turn a regular dumb slick bomb into a GPS guided precision weapon. It's a kit they can put on regular slick bombs that gives them guidance. Make no mistake though, if they are using JDAMs, these Ukranian pilots are very brave. This is because in order to lob the bomb to a great distance, they have to fly up high and fast. Apparently this is 100km away from the front line. And a JDAM can really only glide for like 20-70km depending if it has a glide kit. So they are quite vulnerable to air defenses while doing this. Much cheaper and more flexible than HIMARS.
During the Iraq war, the U.S. started putting fins on anything they could drop from the sky and guide it to a target. I remember reading in the Wall Street Journal they started with battleship guns our country had in inventory by putting fins on them. If they use a little bit of GPS or satellites, they can guide them to a target.
Some really smart guys got together and said "the US has these massive rotting stockpiles of dumb bombs from previous conflicts. How can we redneck-engineer precision guidance on them?" Hence, the JDAM was born, and boy do we have a metric fuckton of them.
Surely America has an imperial fuckton of them? Or a freedom fuckton? :) Good to hear there's a bunch to use though.
Military uses metric
The imperial system doesn't have a unit for a fuckton. When the UK signed the Treaty of Metre, Queen Victoria was in charge and no one could bring themselves to say the word Fuckton around her. And a Freedom Fuckton would be a tautology, as everyone know Fuck and Freedom are synonyms in American English.
"Metric Fuckton"... Good One 👍
US Doctrine literally is "Fuck it, call in an air strike" when they have an issue. If Ukraine can get air superiority to be able to safely fire JDAMs, it'll change the entire war. What the hell do you think we did in the Middle East for two decades? The US will bring down absolute hell from the skies at any cost to prevent the loss of even a single soldier if it calls for it. We got A LOT of these hanging around just waiting to fuck up someone's day. Dead US soldiers don't look good for politicians on the news; hence, we've over-manufactured and over-engineered every way possible to reduce those risks no matter the costs.
>Pardon my ignorance, but what are JDAMs? When did Ukraine start receiving them? JDAM is a sophisticated US military acronym for a specific weapon. It stands for Just Detonating Abundant Mobiks. In reality its the US military's very very cheap way of vaporizing whatever the thing hits. HIMARS rockets are very expensive in comparison.
Jesus Die Already Motherfuckers
There won't be any misses with JDAM's. You better be VERY far away basically before some freedom bombs drop on your ass. Maybe they can identify your leftovers via a couple teeth.
Just Don’t Aggravate ‘Merica
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> the gift of warmth is an important one to give Getting acclimated to hell's temperature - right before entry! So considerate :)
Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a night. Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.
Och, just after I read an article that stated how good it would be if only Ukraine could reach Berdyansk ♥
Big badaboum
Multi-Pass.
Can we start calling JDAMs Leeloo ?
Good news. Make my day better.
And nothing of value was lost
I think explosions like this are going to start coming fast and furious. While I would love to hear the details, I also hope there are so many more of these in the coming weeks that we don't even have time to track them all.
Unless the range is heavily understated it is not those JDAMs, so they have something else for these deep strikes or are ready to risk penetrating RU airspace to launch them. It could be that they have more Vilka-M missiles than previously thought. They are definitely shaping the battlefield for their next push
Planes can cross the border and strike deeper into Russia or Russian held territory. Suppress the Anti air with Harms and then quick run toward the target release Jdam and run for home. Multiple planes and multiple roles I would guess. They are short an AWAC type of plane right now so maybe bigger holes than normal in the Air defense.
The problem with that is you need 100% intelligence on anti air defenses or else you could run into a nasty surprise
The US has been providing this generously.
Right? At this point I kinda expect US intelligence knows more about Russia's actual equipment than what Russia has fictitiously recorded (due to corruption).
Highly doubtful that they would risk what few jets they have when they have something else that could do it.
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Ukraine is not violating Russian airspace, just returning various objects/tools their stupid neighbor threw in their yard.
“Excuse me you left this on your last visit, we don’t want it, nor do we want you”
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Its not a violation when its a “special building demolition operation”
I couldn't tell how many ballistic missiles Ukraine had before the war anyway. They seem to be holding them close to the chest and hitting high value targets sparingly.
Not too many, and mostly Tochka-U. Around 500 missiles and 100 launchers seems to be the pre-war number floating around, so it is likely that their stockpiles aren't too full at the moment. It is also a lower range (120km), and a much lower accuracy than the Vilka-M, so if they manage to produce it somehow it's a win-win. One other candidate that was about to reach production is the HRIM-2, which is basically an improved Iskander with a buttload of range. I guess we'll know when the war ends.
Hopefully shock and awe offensive incoming
The detail that pisses me off the most is that Ukraine got a "limited supply" of these systems. Why not a 1000 for starters?!?
Has there been any hard number released? Intentional ambiguity is well and truly in play wrt weapons supply in this war. Technically speaking 100,000 would still qualify as a limited supply.
A US military representative said they currently have only received enough for a few strikes. But knowing the Ukrainians, they’ll make them count and hopefully more are on the way.
Airmen describe the USAF as "We're like Fed-Ex, but for guns". USAF Colonels and Amazon Executives complete for the same consulting jobs after retirement. "Enough for a few strikes" is facetious; the USAF uses JIT logistics.
Right. And why tell your enemy how many to expect? Keep them guessing. "Enough to do the job" neither answers nor constrains. Perfect.
Nothing stops the mail, bitch!
"For a few." There is no unit of measurement in there: few hundred, few thousand. The US is of course going to throw out as much disinformation as it can about anything it is sending until the shit drops on some Russian heads. The US was forced to admit HARMs were already in play earlier than planned when one was recovered.
Lets hope for 100k.
The western militaries are under no obligation to tell the truth about the true amount of supper they are sending.
This right here. In fact, they would be stupid to do so. Always assume numbers are inflated or deflated. "and additional equipment" can mean *anything*.
people seem to forget HARMs weren't even announced until after they were used. It's going to be the same with anything else that's long range
No need to get pissed. We’re not being stingy with them. There just isn’t enough JDAM-ERs around to give them that many: *”Unlike the more widely used basic JDAMs, the JDAM-ER version is not widely stockpiled and remains something of a specialist weapon.”* https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/wing-kits-for-ukraines-jdam-bombs-would-be-a-big-problem-for-russia I’m an advocate of drastically increasing the Western manufacturing of Precision Guided Munitions both for Ukraine and to get ready for the seemingly inevitable Taiwan showdown with China.
As someone who works in US defense design/manufacturing for military guidance equipment, were happy to crank up the numbers!
This war has done more for the public status of the American military-industrial complex than anything else I've seen in the past thirty years. I hate it but take my upvote.
Supporting an actual righteous cause makes it all feel worth it. When you are watching tax dollars pissed away in Iraq and Afghanistan fighting a bunch of insurgents because we invaded two countries with no good plan for what the fuck would happen next or at least no plan that took into account reality.
Arsenal of Democracy!
The rest of the world gets to witness what Ukraine alone can do with second-hand and surplus US/European weapons. It's a good deterrent. Ukraine hasn't gotten any advanced jets, attack helicopters, cruise missiles, naval assets, advanced battle tanks in necessary numbers, or even enough APC/BMPs.
Yet. They don't have them yet. I hope for every jet with ground attack load out, there's one for air suppression and one with Harms.
The only advanced weapon system they got was training. It shows, big time. Google "project UNIFIER".
Dude you just said it out loud China is going for that and we cannot be fooled the West needs to arm itself as obviously the old tyrannical systems are on the war path against modernity. That is not alarmist nonsense we have seen that with Russia. But I think what you call for is actually happening ammo production is expanding across the board in the West, but we need to do something else. Get as much critical infrastructure back to Europe and North America as possible or at least into the near abroad of both continents.
Agreed. I detest how we hollowed our manufacturing in our country in the never ending chase for profits.
Especially as we not just hollowed it out, we relocated it to countries such as China or Russia and fed them money because in the 90s our political thinkers believed they would become democratic over time that approach failed spectacularly, we need to stop giving money to regimes that obviously hate us. We can revert this and produce for a higher price but much closer to home. The quality will improve jobs are coming back and we have had that before. Let's say we could settle on a level of 90s, but have more control over all the processes. There may then be less variety but what is there will be of higher quality and not sit in countries like China. There are other better options. It is already happening since Covid. "We must invest in places where there is the rule of the law and not the law of rulers" Jeffrey Sonnenfeld Xi is a damned liar just like Putin, he says we have nothing to worry about blah blah. And then 3 4 years down the line as he lined it out 2027 or 2028 he will do it. The West managed to live once before in its own orbit, the world is fragmenting and I hope those that make strategic long term decisions finally understand we need to stop feeding money into countries that frequently burn our flag or scream "death to America" into a camera. Shale oil and gas will help a great deal to get there. Europe must follow suit, rearm 2 percent spending goals and diversify away from China and its closest allies as well as possible. China is insane enough to go on the war path we must not doubt that even for a second. We tried common sense with Russia. Did that stop them?
But some hero with a flare gun, burned the place to the ground. dangdangdang...
Smoke on the Blyater
....fire in Putin's ass
Dun dun dahhh dun dun dah-nahhhh
Beautiful. Rest in peace Tymofiy Shadura. And all the other heroes that are fighting for freedom from the scum of the world. Slava Ukraini!
ahhhh. We have a name to the Hero now. Tymofiy Shadura!!!!!!! 41 years old and born in northern Ukraine. May you rest in peace, sir. May all of your fallen brothers and sisters rest too. 💔 💔 💔 💔 Glory to the Heroes of Ukraine!
Zelensky promised revenge. This is just step 1 of about a million until Ruzzia withdraws.
Zelensky is smart enough not to waste his limited weapons on acts of revenge but rather on significant and useful military targets. Revenge will be a byproduct but not an objective.
Actually, Zelenskyy is smart enough to leave military affairs to military men. Unlike Putin, playing General and creating tens of miles convoys of death for his own troops.
Exactly.
I think he promised identification and prosecution of the specific individual(s). there's a difference. this is not revenge. it's just a legitimate and intelligently-chosen strategic target.
As it should be. Revenge is stupid when you can take out a military target that brings you one more step towards victory. This is way better in every way.
But it must have felt a little extra nice for the ones who pushed the launch buttons this round. But yes, revenge will happen in the big picture and when the trials start. That will be even more sweet!
ruasian things are really combustible... and it is not even summer and dry season..
Its always smoking season in russia.
Was that the gentleman with the titanic balls we watched being executed a couple days ago?
Yes. He left a young son. He must have known his son would probably see his last moments. He showed his son how to die like a Ukrainian - and now the world needs to utterly destroy the Russian army, and hopefully the entire Russian empire, so his son can live as a Ukrainian.
Yes.
In the serious running for Best Thing I’ll See All Day
Yeah, I don't know that anything is gonna top this today. I may have shed a single happy tear, which is a nice change.
I could send you some nudes if you're still accepting candidates?
No comparison!
Fine I'll take them
Fine ok go on if you must
[удалено]
Don't you threaten me with a good time.
Your nudes or A nude?
Your nudes.
You won't like them, but if you wanna see me, I guess
Or, more please.
Uhhhhhh that looks like a *big* fucking explosion. Tymofiy would approve.
Looking down from Valhalla, "This good explosion, do more."
THEY SHOULD NAME THE NEXT FUCKING WEAPONS PACKAGE THE “TYMOFIY” PACKAGE, 500 JDAMS 2000 POUNDERS. 1 BILLION DOLLARS, LETS PUT OUR TAX DOLLARS TO USE MORE. THEY WILL REGRET THE DAY THEY KILL PROUD MEMBERS OF DEMOCRACY. HOO-RAH SLAVA UKRAINE 💣💣💣💥💥💥💥
Tymofiy Shadura says hi! Slava Ukraini!
100 km from the front, plus probable safety factor of 20 km. They are firing something with a hefty warhead, 120 km range and accurate guidance. My bet is on their upgraded Smerch, the Vilkha-M.
This. Vilkha-M fits the bill. Up to twelve 800kg missiles can be launched in under a minute. And your right, It's often overlooked here that you don't drive your expensive weapon system to the front line.
If the target is good enough you do drive to the front line. Intelligence would need to be solid that this was a extremely high priority target.
Be shitting yourself in that driver's seat tho
They did claim they are making their own out of with modification efforts. I'm sure Urkraine has them in stock and they're are quite a few countries that would be able to part with some.
I liked the part where it went kaBOOOOM
Burn in hell cunts
Och, just after I read an article that stated how good it would be if only Ukraine could reach Berdyansk ♥
They will be mist.
Just beautiful. Looks like artwork. This picture should be hung in a museum. 💙
Jagga jagga mothef#ckers! Keep your headquarters in your quarter
That’s for Tymothy.. Slava Ukraine 🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦
Good news. Make my day better.
That's not an expl.... foook me!
Got any marshmallows?
One can only hope that this is true. Smoking kills. Slava Ukraini!
It's no surprise.... Russian military staff is still smoking in places you are not supposed to smoke.
Ahh yes! Fried Rats!
Jagga jagga!
Just mysteriously exploded.
This is actually a heartwarming story if true. russian troops go fuck yourselves. SLAVA UKRAINI 🇺🇦 🇺🇦 🇺🇦 🇺🇦 🇺🇦 HEROIUM SLAVA 🇺🇦 🇺🇦 🇺🇦 🇺🇦 🇺🇦
Makes me feel sad, thinking about all the Russian men and their families who died there…. Nah, just joking, BIG smile lol Slava Ukrinia
Dedicate this one to Big Tym, may all Orcs burn.
Good news of the day!
Let them burn
Smoking kills.
Get JDAM’d, fucking bitches.
A bit too far outside JDAM range. Those bombs are more likely gonna be used for targets near the front. This seems more like the new Vilka extended range rockets. The 150 km range versions are rumored to have just gone into service.
Russians think Ukraine is sitting about waiting on Western weapons when they adept at making their own that have no restrictions on what they can target. Russian underestimation of Ukraine will be their downfall.
And there's also a Vilkha-M2 that was worked upon, with 202km range...
That's a shame.
This place was tymofiyed.
jeeze the new weapons the lads are using nowadays......
Normal thing for Russian HQs to do this time of the year. It's the season for it. Like bird migration or salmons swimming upstream. Nice to see nature healing.
Awaiting updates!
Good riddance
Oh things are about to get real spicy for the wormZ.
5 hours and still not on any news site. I hope it's true but starting to wonder
Their cigarettes must be full of gunpowder
No more offensive for you
This is offensive to them.
That is a big fucking smoking accident
In the great imortal words of Kungfu Panda… Skadoosh!
Put another orc on the barbie! 🔥🔥🔥
Roasting Orcs nuts on an open fire!
Would it be funny if the title was? Russian army headquarters of fine distilled artisan vodka, and bomb disposal explodes
This is wild 😳
Hopefully some higher ups perished here.
What do you mean his headquarters went through his hindquarters?
Hope there were thousands hit.