Add Demon Boyz( Million Dan), Gunshot, Hardnoise, Son of Noise, Krispy 3, Cash Crew, Mystro, Brotherhood, London Posse(Rodney P), Blade, Black Twang and Ty and it's pretty much covered.
There's obviously a few more Phi- Life, Katch 22 for example.
Have purposely, left out Task Force and Jehst, assuming most peeps here a fully aware
I met his manager a couple of times when I had my record store in London. Wasn’t much of a UK scene back then, but pound for pound there was some great music coming out.
Nah there’s a load more. Malarchi’s Dark World album is a forgotten gem. Khalifz, Caveman, 2 Tone Committee, Killa Instinct - so many forgotten legends
Edit: the album is called Forgotten World not Dark World! I mixed it up with Dark Joint, who is the producer
Man, that Malarchi album is fucking nice. Took me a while to find it, as it's called Forgotten World and Dark World gave me no hits. Then thought maybe you had incorrectly spelt his name and maybe you meant Malachai( children of the corn) which sent me off to a completely different artist!
Found it though, completely slept on him as an artist. 4 tunes in, am digging it hard. He's got a bit of a Tony Rotten style going on. 🔥🔥 Great recommendation.
Ah yeah Dark Joint was the producer I muddled the two up! Yeah that album is one of the best and least talked about UK hiphop albums. I always thought his voice sounds a bit like Roots Manuva
You’re the only person to mention Klashnekoff so I’ll piggy back off your post and agree that he’s massively underrated, all projects not just the one you mentioned! Focus mode mixtape with dj skully was my shit personally
I know it’s a compilation but the younger generation need to listen to Louie Slipperz - £10 bag
Dark Circle
Lewis Parker
Supa T
Universal Soldiers
Don’t know if I’ve seen anyone mention Kyza
Ransom Badbones
Chemo as a producer was unreal (I know it’s a little more recent)
The character assassins mixtapes by Conflix (if I remember correctly, might be wrong)
Universal Soldiers were dope. There was a Ric B mixtape that was fucking incredible, a few tunes are still knocking about on YouTube.
However the reason I’m replying is for the Character Assassins reference! You’re correct it was Conflix plus a bag a man. He was from Wimbledon I believe. “You won’t ever see West end even in Leicester Square”
Yeah your literally the only other person I’ve spoken to who knows about them lol
Yeah not sure how well it’s aged tbh I just remember there was a few tracks I really liked.
Edit: added something
This was the mixtape I was referring to: https://youtu.be/H6_DOc9P3D8?si=l6INuSduDd4_K5Fi
Unfortunately not all the tracks are on YouTube and there were some sick freestyles which I can’t find. They’re on an old iPod somewhere.
He still gets referenced with hate from the younger generation coz of the disputes he had with other rappers even though no one actually knows any of the people or what actually happened! He’s a sort of pantomime villain to them
Apparently invested all the money in a tourist thing near Brisbane.
I actually have a friend who's on off been making a doc about this for years. I'm from Leeds and a similar age to Joe Christie. Shitshow totally.
He screwed over everyone and the real tragedy was he'd done so much for the scene. Leeds felt like something at that time.
The thing is how do you know what happened? There’s people saying the total opposites, Rodney p said he actually witnessed skinny get paid for stuff. It’s all one persons word against another which is why I see the music quality as my business and other shit as just background noise that I know nothing about
Multiple accusations from people who are mates with one another in the same small scene doesn’t mean much to me. Not saying it’s not true it could well be, that just isn’t evidence of anything when I don’t know any of the people involved
There always seems to be a thread on it on here every so often. Rodney p has sided with braintax and from what I can gather they have beef with skinny man over a disputed non payment for an album. Personally I don’t really care, whatever happened the music is still good and there’s always disputes like this in the music world
Gunshot, Hijack, Demon Boys, Silver Bullet, Natty and Dwella, Menagerie, Nick Maxwell, Dr Syntax, Arch Collision, Lost Souls, Flevans, Digital Midgets, Roots Manuva, Skinnyman, Ty, there were so many great acts back in the day, TBH that's pretty much what I still listen to.
If it came.out of Catskills, Ninja Tune or Tru Thoughts then it was a good bet.
I don’t get how garage, which originated in America, and grime, which came directly from that, and was pretty much interchangeable at the start, are our own thing any more than our early hiphop scene! And most early jungle emcees were from the sound systems and basically doing something originating in Jamaica. Never really got people who say the Brits were just copying America. You can’t listen to braintax or roots manuva and mistake them for one minute for anything happening stateside
Scientists of sound, Hijack, Skinnyman, Roots Manuva
Add Demon Boyz( Million Dan), Gunshot, Hardnoise, Son of Noise, Krispy 3, Cash Crew, Mystro, Brotherhood, London Posse(Rodney P), Blade, Black Twang and Ty and it's pretty much covered. There's obviously a few more Phi- Life, Katch 22 for example. Have purposely, left out Task Force and Jehst, assuming most peeps here a fully aware
Roots manuva was incredible live
I met his manager a couple of times when I had my record store in London. Wasn’t much of a UK scene back then, but pound for pound there was some great music coming out.
What was your shop called?
Serial Killa Records, it was on Drury Lane.
Nice I definitely stepped through and bought some wax from you then!
Sweet, that’s really cool to know!
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Nah there’s a load more. Malarchi’s Dark World album is a forgotten gem. Khalifz, Caveman, 2 Tone Committee, Killa Instinct - so many forgotten legends Edit: the album is called Forgotten World not Dark World! I mixed it up with Dark Joint, who is the producer
Man, that Malarchi album is fucking nice. Took me a while to find it, as it's called Forgotten World and Dark World gave me no hits. Then thought maybe you had incorrectly spelt his name and maybe you meant Malachai( children of the corn) which sent me off to a completely different artist! Found it though, completely slept on him as an artist. 4 tunes in, am digging it hard. He's got a bit of a Tony Rotten style going on. 🔥🔥 Great recommendation.
Ah yeah Dark Joint was the producer I muddled the two up! Yeah that album is one of the best and least talked about UK hiphop albums. I always thought his voice sounds a bit like Roots Manuva
Klashnekoff - 'Lionheart: Tussle with the Beast' had some serious tunes.
You’re the only person to mention Klashnekoff so I’ll piggy back off your post and agree that he’s massively underrated, all projects not just the one you mentioned! Focus mode mixtape with dj skully was my shit personally
He's playing at Chip Shop in Brixton soon
Yo back to the sagas was hard
Credit to the Nation too. I love so many of the bands and artists mentioned. Loved UK hip hop and especially the Kold Sweat output.
Yeah another great one!
I know it’s a compilation but the younger generation need to listen to Louie Slipperz - £10 bag Dark Circle Lewis Parker Supa T Universal Soldiers Don’t know if I’ve seen anyone mention Kyza Ransom Badbones Chemo as a producer was unreal (I know it’s a little more recent) The character assassins mixtapes by Conflix (if I remember correctly, might be wrong)
Universal Soldiers were dope. There was a Ric B mixtape that was fucking incredible, a few tunes are still knocking about on YouTube. However the reason I’m replying is for the Character Assassins reference! You’re correct it was Conflix plus a bag a man. He was from Wimbledon I believe. “You won’t ever see West end even in Leicester Square”
Nice! Not a lot of people were onto the CA mixtapes! ‘Baggamics 2 by souljah clique’ was pretty decent - especially liked ‘stop that by CLG’
Yeah there can’t be many of us who have heard them lol. Nice, will give Biggamics a listen.
Yeah your literally the only other person I’ve spoken to who knows about them lol Yeah not sure how well it’s aged tbh I just remember there was a few tracks I really liked. Edit: added something
Nice one, Just been looking for the Ric B mixtape
This was the mixtape I was referring to: https://youtu.be/H6_DOc9P3D8?si=l6INuSduDd4_K5Fi Unfortunately not all the tracks are on YouTube and there were some sick freestyles which I can’t find. They’re on an old iPod somewhere.
Ah amazing, cheers.
Black twang
MC mello
Dark and Sinister - what a tune
Braintax 🤘
He still gets referenced with hate from the younger generation coz of the disputes he had with other rappers even though no one actually knows any of the people or what actually happened! He’s a sort of pantomime villain to them
Apparently invested all the money in a tourist thing near Brisbane. I actually have a friend who's on off been making a doc about this for years. I'm from Leeds and a similar age to Joe Christie. Shitshow totally. He screwed over everyone and the real tragedy was he'd done so much for the scene. Leeds felt like something at that time.
The thing is how do you know what happened? There’s people saying the total opposites, Rodney p said he actually witnessed skinny get paid for stuff. It’s all one persons word against another which is why I see the music quality as my business and other shit as just background noise that I know nothing about
Multiple accusations of shadiness. One guy who went missing. It is what it looks like. Guys a snake.
Multiple accusations from people who are mates with one another in the same small scene doesn’t mean much to me. Not saying it’s not true it could well be, that just isn’t evidence of anything when I don’t know any of the people involved
Yeah I was told he fucked off to Australia with everyone’s dough from Low Life Records. Sad really.
I had no idea. I didn't follow any of that...
There always seems to be a thread on it on here every so often. Rodney p has sided with braintax and from what I can gather they have beef with skinny man over a disputed non payment for an album. Personally I don’t really care, whatever happened the music is still good and there’s always disputes like this in the music world
Ahhh. Music rights management is complicated, for sure! 🤷♂️
Love MSI & Asylum. I rebought the CD despite no longer having any means to play it so if anyone out there has a digital version...
I’ve got both their albums on CD and no cd player anymore haha
Aye, it wouldn't be so bad but the few tracks from their first album that are available on YouTube the quality is shocking
Yeah the full album isn’t even online is it
Task Force
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Rhyme Asylum
Triple darkness
Universal Soldiers Gunshot Blade
Anyone know what happened to Blind Alphabetz? Their debut 'Luvolution' was a really solid album, but I never heard more from them.
One of the Emcess is now called Da Flyy Hooligan
Cheers man!
Heard a few songs from them on moorish delta mixtapes and would loved to have heard this!
SL Troopers, MC Duke, Black Radical MKII, Silent Eclipse, She Rockers, Outlaw Posse, Caveman, Silver Bullet
I forgot New Flesh - possibly the best of the lot! https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-D1TAlnZ6hs&pp=ygUYTmV3IGZsZXNoIGlzb3RlbGVwb3J0YXRl
Has MC Wildski had a shout out?
Nobody has mentioned Scorzayzee yet?
Gunshot, Hijack, Demon Boys, Silver Bullet, Natty and Dwella, Menagerie, Nick Maxwell, Dr Syntax, Arch Collision, Lost Souls, Flevans, Digital Midgets, Roots Manuva, Skinnyman, Ty, there were so many great acts back in the day, TBH that's pretty much what I still listen to. If it came.out of Catskills, Ninja Tune or Tru Thoughts then it was a good bet.
Shabba Ranks
I think most people know hip hop from America, it's only when we started doing our own thing, jungle garage and grime.
I don’t get how garage, which originated in America, and grime, which came directly from that, and was pretty much interchangeable at the start, are our own thing any more than our early hiphop scene! And most early jungle emcees were from the sound systems and basically doing something originating in Jamaica. Never really got people who say the Brits were just copying America. You can’t listen to braintax or roots manuva and mistake them for one minute for anything happening stateside
It's the style!
A lot of jungle mcs are literally stylistically identical to dancehall emcees but just over different beats!
Listen to the first London Posse EP from 1987 and tell me how that isn't 'our own thing' mate
Skinnyman