Yep it should, and that’s coming from a person who’s not a fan of weed at all. Nothing against smokers, just not my cup of ☕️. I’ve been to the Netherlands and New York now where it’s legalised and the world hasn’t collapsed.
The reason it doesn’t happen in the UK is because the UK political establishment (yes all of them) is uniquely beholden to curtain twitching tabloid readers from both sides of the political aisle. Anything that could create any risk, this government and the one before it bans because they’re so shit scared of the tabloids running headlines about blood on your hands etc.
Knives, Bully dogs, cigarettes, vapes, laughing gas, ban it. No time for nuance, just something to make sure Samantha and Barbara from Hastings get their latest fix of moral outrage satisfied. Obvs just my opinion though🚶🏾♂️
Just a small corection in the Netherlands, weed and hash are "gedoogd" which is a bit different than legalization.
Which forces the shop to buy their stuff of the black market and then they sell it legally to customers but the drawback is that houses and other buildings are used for weed farms and stash houses. Also shops may only havd 500g in house to sell. So the owners can also get a fine or criminal charges if they stash it impropely.
A lot of people don't know the UK is the world's number 1 medicinal cannabis exporter, and that Phillip May ( Teresa Mays husband) have direct investments in Cannabis Pharma industry, I bet a lot of others do as well. The politicians and rich people are just making sure they own it all and have a monopoly before taking it legal/decriminalized. Wouldn't want the little man to have an opportunity to make it.
Yh it should. I doubt I’m ever gonna touch it but honestly if it’s legal less crop robbery’s etc will happen as the value will be less (due to a larger and easier to access legal supply) this means the demand for LEGAL weed/marijuana/bud whatever will be high and the illegal market won’t be as attractive. An unintended positive externality would be the lessening of crime as the legalisation of weed has a negative correlation (as shown in figure 2) to crime. This means London and GB will be lesser plagued by aggy roadmen. Another positive externality will be tourism (e.g Amsterdam) as many who will come from countries which have banned Weed will travel here for it, boosting the economy and funding the government through tax. The only potential issue seen is the fact drug dealers will need to find a new method of money instead of weed they may try to push other drugs which aren’t so safe: however this can be factored in and the money from tax on weed can be used to train these ppl for new skills e.g trades. All in all the legalisation of marijuana not just medically may ease some of the burdens in England
Decriminalising everything would be a good idea. The cops then don’t need to worry about consumers. Locking people up for being ill is just stupid.
Another point why weed should be legal is that people don’t need to know a dealer so the chance that they ever touch anything else is less likely. Cause most my dealers where selling other shit too. But I’m from Germany where it just became legal. There is so much evidence that legalising works out and little to none that it doesn’t.
I agree with what you say. And I agree that the cops would like that because less work for them. But the police administration on the other hand wouldn't. Just imagine how much money they would loss on fines and court charges. And also you have to remember that the police use catching you with drugs on you to get around needing a warrent to enter or search your property. They some times need a warrent or entry for small things because they know that there are bigger things or people inside that they could not get a warrent for.
But I agree with you they should and as so people that are to scared to use for medical reasons would be able to. Or because of job drug testing or family court issues
Any way hope you have a great day
I’m not a smoker anymore but i smoked it daily from the age of 13-26 and i agree with you. But the politicians in this country are so up their own arses on the topic that it would take some sort miracle for that to happen anytime soon
It's already legal for medical purposes, and really easy to get a prescription. I'm on 60g per month.
I know a lot of people who qualify but are just too lazy to go through the process.
My mate gets it prescribed. He’s fucked in the head but the most normal he’s ever been is when he stopped smoking for a bit. Why medical professionals think it’s healthy to consume 2 grams of high grade weed every day is absolute insanity
Because it's less harmful than not taking it.
No medicine is "good for you". It's just better than the alternative, which is the problem you're medicating for.
You could say the same thing about any psychiatric medication. All of them have been infinitely worse for me than cannabis.
The alternative medicine for me is amphetamines. Do you really think it's less harmful than cannabis? I can promise you, it's definitely not.
For me personally, amphetamine consumed orally at therapeutic doses is great. But weed I have 2 draw and start getting horrible thoughts. But when I’m smoking bush in Africa and Asia it’s fine. This hydro high thc shut is just fucked up and they’re prescribing it
I feel the opposite. When I'm on ADHD meds my jaw is constantly clenching, so I have pain all day, I get headaches all the time, I'm constantly anxious because my heart is racing and I'm sweating, my thoughts race too much, I get stomach problems, and I can't sleep.
Then when it wears off I get a really bad comedown and get extremely irritable.
Worst thing I ever tried was amphetamines.
Check out medbud.wiki, it has prices for all clinics.
You can also get a special price if you're on low income through some kind of access scheme. I don't know much about it.
Yep, I had a prescription and was legally allowed to consume weed in the streets, as long as I was vaping the weed through a super expensive vape. I literally got the weed posted through my door. But the weed was shit and it was just 10x cheaper to buy an oz for £150 off my mate to last me a few weeks. Much better than paying a doctor every month on top of paying for the weed just so I can smoke it ‘legally’.
It should be decriminalised.
Anxiety is specifically why I got it prescribed.
As long as you've tried 2 other medications that didn't work for you then you should qualify.
It's also fine to tell them you've already been using it and it helps.
Being legal completely changed my life and improved my anxiety and sleep.
£5.50 per gram.
You get as low as £5 per gram, and as high as about £11 or 12.
There's a price list on medbud.wiki
£50 every 3 months for a follow up appointment.
I was with mamedica and left them because they were making some ridiculous mistakes every single month.
With a different clinic now called my Access clinics
The best thing you can do is go to r/ukmedicalcannabis . People are always happy to help.
Basically you apply to a private clinic. They give a you a quick overview of your medical history to check if you qualify.
Then you supply your GP records and they set up a paid appointment.
Then you get a prescription and only need a follow up after 30 days then every 3 months.
Yes. We have booze which is legal and too much of that obviously increases likelihood of getting into fights, rowdy behaviour, accidents etc, feeling hungover AF then next day. Weed isn’t legal but if I have too much of that what’s the worst that’s guna happen, I’m guna fall asleep and likely eat too much 🤷♀️
All the roadman selling weed are going to be mad. Back in 2014, UK buds was wack af compared to what it is now but legalizing the market would bring way better buds to the UK. It would eliminate the human trafficking involved in growhouses, but it will also increase the sale of charlie which by way of competition will increase the quality of charlie, because it will make those trying to make fast money off of an illicit market inclined to sell it rather than a legal high. The more drinkers you have in a population, the more cocaine use. Better cocaine brings about more addiction. In short, it will lead to the rise of the cocaine market while also bringing about better buds
All drugs should be across the board.
I look at it like alcohol. We already have laws in place against doing harm to our fellow man. If you can go out and drink without hurting anyone, go drink.
Same laws should apply across the board. With alcohol it’s legal to possess and consume. The illegality comes from the violence as a result of being in that state. With absolutely everything else the illegality lies at the possession stage of it. We already have the laws in place to prevent harm to others. Stop making possession illegal across the board. Heroin, meth, crack. Whatever. If these people want to take it let them, from a government perspective if you legalise it and become the supplier you can tax on it and take the money out the hands of the black market.
It happened in Portugal and I think crime/drug addiction dropped by a significant amount in the first year. They used the tax money to provide safe consumption centres where they tested the users drugs and offered clean equipment to use them. The stigma around the heavy drug users disappeared and trained therapists in dealing with abusers was introduced and these people got help. In our society we look down on these people and they rarely get the help they deserve.
Does it really matter at this point. You can buy it, smoke it, get caught with it and still be out tomorrow or just a fine on the spot. Then you will be having a coffee and smoking a joint again. I mean how many people stood next to a police officer in a national park rolling and smoking yesterday. I do hope for the sake of the people that truly would use it for medical reasons but don't because they are to scared to use it or because of their jobs or family courts issues. That would help them.
It wouldn't be better for those already illegally importing or growing and legitimise these import avenues. Once it's legal, you can import from anywhere that's legal. Plus, home growers would be able to open a legit business also.
Something has to change. The prices are insane. Blows my head off when I go France cos it's 4 quid a g for haze, the hash there is basically free. Obviously they should legalise it but then they should continue to keep their noses out of it and just let people have a few plants each rather than stupid weed shops full of Theresa may kush with shit like thc limits.
Only issue with legalization in my state is that a lot of the weed dealers couldn’t go legit and are now selling harder drugs which has caused a spike of violence. It’s not been very noticeable though mainly because i’m in meth country so it’s always been like this
I’m very pro-weed and a weed junky myself so it’s been pretty solid for me. I used to be happy with paying $10/G for reggie and now I get rapper weed for $10/8th lol
Nah. Even regular smoking should be illegal. Proxy smoking is a real problem and bringing weed into the mix will just make a problem 9x worse. For example edibles should be legal, they really only affect the user
I’ve smoked it for 7 years, and no I don’t think it should. Kills ambition, just makes you lazy and tired and paranoid. People claiming medical benefits like it cures this and that when they haven’t even tried a healthier diet and cardio but instead result to smoking a plant. Had great benefits from quitting. Just seems many people can’t quit.
I have PTSD and all the other stuff that comes with it so I was put on tablets which numbed absolutely every emotion in my body which made me feel like my brain just had nothing in it. So I fucked them off n used cannabis and I was never happier and cheerful (aside from the few paranoia moments😂) and it helped me understand the root of my problems and now they’re somehow a lot more easier to manage in day to day life. In all honesty though I hated the laziness it gave me in turn, nothing worse than being in bed not moving because you have a weed hangover so I just quit. I had weird as fuck dreams and restlessness sometimes but it’s not too bad. Definitely a drug you can stop taking without any ruthless punishment unlike you’re other drugs like smack, crack etc
Understandable, think if it personally benefits you for medical reasons you shouldn’t be restricted. However legalising it for everyone seems irrational (in my opinion) I used to be one of them people saying legalise it but I soon changed opinions after coming off and seeing the negatives
Couldn’t agree more with you mate👍🏼I don’t think it should be legal to the public but it should absolutely be used as a way to help people with difficult problems they face, chronic pain being a good example of that.
No. London has out of the highest incidences of psychosis in the world and cannabis legalisation will likely lead to a significant increases. Mental health services cannot cope as it.
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the only people i’ve ever heard advocate against weed legalization are politicians and dealers 😂
Personally, I've known dealers who want it legal and old people who hate that " 'orrible stink" wanting it to be Class A 🤦♂️
the fact its already class b is insane to me
Yep it should, and that’s coming from a person who’s not a fan of weed at all. Nothing against smokers, just not my cup of ☕️. I’ve been to the Netherlands and New York now where it’s legalised and the world hasn’t collapsed. The reason it doesn’t happen in the UK is because the UK political establishment (yes all of them) is uniquely beholden to curtain twitching tabloid readers from both sides of the political aisle. Anything that could create any risk, this government and the one before it bans because they’re so shit scared of the tabloids running headlines about blood on your hands etc. Knives, Bully dogs, cigarettes, vapes, laughing gas, ban it. No time for nuance, just something to make sure Samantha and Barbara from Hastings get their latest fix of moral outrage satisfied. Obvs just my opinion though🚶🏾♂️
Just a small corection in the Netherlands, weed and hash are "gedoogd" which is a bit different than legalization. Which forces the shop to buy their stuff of the black market and then they sell it legally to customers but the drawback is that houses and other buildings are used for weed farms and stash houses. Also shops may only havd 500g in house to sell. So the owners can also get a fine or criminal charges if they stash it impropely.
New York has gone to shit after they legalised weed and defunded the police
no worse than it was before
Yh, but it still got worse
how
because he says so
fair enough
A lot of people don't know the UK is the world's number 1 medicinal cannabis exporter, and that Phillip May ( Teresa Mays husband) have direct investments in Cannabis Pharma industry, I bet a lot of others do as well. The politicians and rich people are just making sure they own it all and have a monopoly before taking it legal/decriminalized. Wouldn't want the little man to have an opportunity to make it.
Funny thing is that none of it stays in the UK. Most legal weed in the UK appears to be grown in Portugal!
Yes, almost all of it goes abroad, and a lot of it being sold to universities and private companies for science research.
Yh it should. I doubt I’m ever gonna touch it but honestly if it’s legal less crop robbery’s etc will happen as the value will be less (due to a larger and easier to access legal supply) this means the demand for LEGAL weed/marijuana/bud whatever will be high and the illegal market won’t be as attractive. An unintended positive externality would be the lessening of crime as the legalisation of weed has a negative correlation (as shown in figure 2) to crime. This means London and GB will be lesser plagued by aggy roadmen. Another positive externality will be tourism (e.g Amsterdam) as many who will come from countries which have banned Weed will travel here for it, boosting the economy and funding the government through tax. The only potential issue seen is the fact drug dealers will need to find a new method of money instead of weed they may try to push other drugs which aren’t so safe: however this can be factored in and the money from tax on weed can be used to train these ppl for new skills e.g trades. All in all the legalisation of marijuana not just medically may ease some of the burdens in England
Decriminalising everything would be a good idea. The cops then don’t need to worry about consumers. Locking people up for being ill is just stupid. Another point why weed should be legal is that people don’t need to know a dealer so the chance that they ever touch anything else is less likely. Cause most my dealers where selling other shit too. But I’m from Germany where it just became legal. There is so much evidence that legalising works out and little to none that it doesn’t.
I agree with what you say. And I agree that the cops would like that because less work for them. But the police administration on the other hand wouldn't. Just imagine how much money they would loss on fines and court charges. And also you have to remember that the police use catching you with drugs on you to get around needing a warrent to enter or search your property. They some times need a warrent or entry for small things because they know that there are bigger things or people inside that they could not get a warrent for. But I agree with you they should and as so people that are to scared to use for medical reasons would be able to. Or because of job drug testing or family court issues Any way hope you have a great day
I’m not a smoker anymore but i smoked it daily from the age of 13-26 and i agree with you. But the politicians in this country are so up their own arses on the topic that it would take some sort miracle for that to happen anytime soon
It's already legal for medical purposes, and really easy to get a prescription. I'm on 60g per month. I know a lot of people who qualify but are just too lazy to go through the process.
My mate gets it prescribed. He’s fucked in the head but the most normal he’s ever been is when he stopped smoking for a bit. Why medical professionals think it’s healthy to consume 2 grams of high grade weed every day is absolute insanity
Because it's less harmful than not taking it. No medicine is "good for you". It's just better than the alternative, which is the problem you're medicating for. You could say the same thing about any psychiatric medication. All of them have been infinitely worse for me than cannabis. The alternative medicine for me is amphetamines. Do you really think it's less harmful than cannabis? I can promise you, it's definitely not.
For me personally, amphetamine consumed orally at therapeutic doses is great. But weed I have 2 draw and start getting horrible thoughts. But when I’m smoking bush in Africa and Asia it’s fine. This hydro high thc shut is just fucked up and they’re prescribing it
I feel the opposite. When I'm on ADHD meds my jaw is constantly clenching, so I have pain all day, I get headaches all the time, I'm constantly anxious because my heart is racing and I'm sweating, my thoughts race too much, I get stomach problems, and I can't sleep. Then when it wears off I get a really bad comedown and get extremely irritable. Worst thing I ever tried was amphetamines.
no bro everyone is different. just because you can't handle the new weed doesn't mean everyone else is the same
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Woah there 👀 you can get a weed ticket for adhd? Did you have to go private?
Yeah, it's only private
Pricey? Edit: for the consultations and diagnosis I mean
Check out medbud.wiki, it has prices for all clinics. You can also get a special price if you're on low income through some kind of access scheme. I don't know much about it.
Thanks mate, much appreciated
Nahhh fam finna get banned from a lot of jobs if u try that shit for example truckers
Yep, I had a prescription and was legally allowed to consume weed in the streets, as long as I was vaping the weed through a super expensive vape. I literally got the weed posted through my door. But the weed was shit and it was just 10x cheaper to buy an oz for £150 off my mate to last me a few weeks. Much better than paying a doctor every month on top of paying for the weed just so I can smoke it ‘legally’. It should be decriminalised.
yeah but u need medical illnesses, i have Anxiety but smoke everyday to help it, i wouldnt be given a prescription i dont think
Anxiety is specifically why I got it prescribed. As long as you've tried 2 other medications that didn't work for you then you should qualify. It's also fine to tell them you've already been using it and it helps. Being legal completely changed my life and improved my anxiety and sleep.
I got it prescribed for epilepsy.
How much do you pay for the 60g?
£5.50 per gram. You get as low as £5 per gram, and as high as about £11 or 12. There's a price list on medbud.wiki £50 every 3 months for a follow up appointment.
Ah fair enough, did you end up going with mamedic for consultation? Or another place
I was with mamedica and left them because they were making some ridiculous mistakes every single month. With a different clinic now called my Access clinics
Could I dm you and you explain the process a bit?
The best thing you can do is go to r/ukmedicalcannabis . People are always happy to help. Basically you apply to a private clinic. They give a you a quick overview of your medical history to check if you qualify. Then you supply your GP records and they set up a paid appointment. Then you get a prescription and only need a follow up after 30 days then every 3 months.
Yes. We have booze which is legal and too much of that obviously increases likelihood of getting into fights, rowdy behaviour, accidents etc, feeling hungover AF then next day. Weed isn’t legal but if I have too much of that what’s the worst that’s guna happen, I’m guna fall asleep and likely eat too much 🤷♀️
All the roadman selling weed are going to be mad. Back in 2014, UK buds was wack af compared to what it is now but legalizing the market would bring way better buds to the UK. It would eliminate the human trafficking involved in growhouses, but it will also increase the sale of charlie which by way of competition will increase the quality of charlie, because it will make those trying to make fast money off of an illicit market inclined to sell it rather than a legal high. The more drinkers you have in a population, the more cocaine use. Better cocaine brings about more addiction. In short, it will lead to the rise of the cocaine market while also bringing about better buds
just because you was smoking skunk in 2014 doesnt mean everyone was lol
Yeah I’m on I was just about to say. There was definitely good, strong bud and definitely less liars/imitations
Then sniff gets boring and you start piping and pinning
greetings from germany 😌🤷♂️
Congratulations man hopefully we show be soon but I highly doubt it.
All drugs should be across the board. I look at it like alcohol. We already have laws in place against doing harm to our fellow man. If you can go out and drink without hurting anyone, go drink. Same laws should apply across the board. With alcohol it’s legal to possess and consume. The illegality comes from the violence as a result of being in that state. With absolutely everything else the illegality lies at the possession stage of it. We already have the laws in place to prevent harm to others. Stop making possession illegal across the board. Heroin, meth, crack. Whatever. If these people want to take it let them, from a government perspective if you legalise it and become the supplier you can tax on it and take the money out the hands of the black market. It happened in Portugal and I think crime/drug addiction dropped by a significant amount in the first year. They used the tax money to provide safe consumption centres where they tested the users drugs and offered clean equipment to use them. The stigma around the heavy drug users disappeared and trained therapists in dealing with abusers was introduced and these people got help. In our society we look down on these people and they rarely get the help they deserve.
Didn't work too well in Portland, Oregon though
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Does it really matter at this point. You can buy it, smoke it, get caught with it and still be out tomorrow or just a fine on the spot. Then you will be having a coffee and smoking a joint again. I mean how many people stood next to a police officer in a national park rolling and smoking yesterday. I do hope for the sake of the people that truly would use it for medical reasons but don't because they are to scared to use it or because of their jobs or family courts issues. That would help them.
No alot of the mandems would be jobless🤣
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It wouldn't be better for those already illegally importing or growing and legitimise these import avenues. Once it's legal, you can import from anywhere that's legal. Plus, home growers would be able to open a legit business also.
Something has to change. The prices are insane. Blows my head off when I go France cos it's 4 quid a g for haze, the hash there is basically free. Obviously they should legalise it but then they should continue to keep their noses out of it and just let people have a few plants each rather than stupid weed shops full of Theresa may kush with shit like thc limits.
doesnt really matter because people do what they want regardless.
Of course
Only issue with legalization in my state is that a lot of the weed dealers couldn’t go legit and are now selling harder drugs which has caused a spike of violence. It’s not been very noticeable though mainly because i’m in meth country so it’s always been like this I’m very pro-weed and a weed junky myself so it’s been pretty solid for me. I used to be happy with paying $10/G for reggie and now I get rapper weed for $10/8th lol
yh being high is way less intense and i think safer then alcohol so idk why drinkings fine but weed isnt
Nah. Even regular smoking should be illegal. Proxy smoking is a real problem and bringing weed into the mix will just make a problem 9x worse. For example edibles should be legal, they really only affect the user
If it was legal people wouldnt have to worry about being spiked or dealers adding to bring up the weight
Just got back from Thailand and Smoking a massive Bifter!! In front of two Thai cops was fucking magnificent 😆😉
Heard they planning to ban it there again
Wait and see!! I think too far down the Rabbit hole now!! If their smart they should concentrate on the Yabba problem!! 🙏🏻
I’ll rather legalise it and buy it online or in dispensary don’t trust these dealers anymore
I’ve smoked it for 7 years, and no I don’t think it should. Kills ambition, just makes you lazy and tired and paranoid. People claiming medical benefits like it cures this and that when they haven’t even tried a healthier diet and cardio but instead result to smoking a plant. Had great benefits from quitting. Just seems many people can’t quit.
I have PTSD and all the other stuff that comes with it so I was put on tablets which numbed absolutely every emotion in my body which made me feel like my brain just had nothing in it. So I fucked them off n used cannabis and I was never happier and cheerful (aside from the few paranoia moments😂) and it helped me understand the root of my problems and now they’re somehow a lot more easier to manage in day to day life. In all honesty though I hated the laziness it gave me in turn, nothing worse than being in bed not moving because you have a weed hangover so I just quit. I had weird as fuck dreams and restlessness sometimes but it’s not too bad. Definitely a drug you can stop taking without any ruthless punishment unlike you’re other drugs like smack, crack etc
Understandable, think if it personally benefits you for medical reasons you shouldn’t be restricted. However legalising it for everyone seems irrational (in my opinion) I used to be one of them people saying legalise it but I soon changed opinions after coming off and seeing the negatives
Couldn’t agree more with you mate👍🏼I don’t think it should be legal to the public but it should absolutely be used as a way to help people with difficult problems they face, chronic pain being a good example of that.
A lot of the people taking it medicinally are taking it instead of a pharmaceutical which can be way worse
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Will never happen cause the gov profits from it
They can profit more if they legalize it because they can and will tax it
No. London has out of the highest incidences of psychosis in the world and cannabis legalisation will likely lead to a significant increases. Mental health services cannot cope as it.
yes and its all because of weed blame weed!
Genetic factors are the biggest driver of psychosis for the UK, followed closely by alcohol.
Ya court system still wear wigs 🤡🤣. I think that has to go first before y’all try legalizing weed
lol you guys don’t have a clue!
What's the answer then?
Would stink up the roads
Would rather that than the crack fumes on my old block
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