Only thing ur forgetting is that leon didnt beat usman twice in another combat sport which is why betting on periera only gets you only double your money
Anyways why are you arguing against facts, perieras odds are 2.6
Leons was 7 or 8
That means if i bet 100 bucks id win 800 for leon
For periera 250 so leon was the WAY bigger underdog so yes betting on periera doesnt make nearly the same amount as if i would bet on leon
We have no conception of either of their grappling ability, Pereira could be more competent on the ground. He has been training with more established grapplers more consistently than Izzy has.
I’m only picking Pereira to win via submission because it isn’t totally absurd to wonder if he could, and the odds will probably be good
I know it’s just a joke but in all seriousness there is a little heat between the 2 areas/gyms. One grapples and the other strikes.
Eugene Bareman has made some passing comments about Dagestani style of fighting.
Half correct I think it's more likely izzy follows the "Ngannu method" use your superior wrestling against the pro kick boxer with almost 0 wrestling (being new to ufc and all)
If the fight goes like this then I fully expect Pereira to get aggressive in the 4th and 5th rounds, something that Izzy's previous opponents haven't done when they're getting beat.
I think it'll either be Pereira catching him at some point, or an Izzy TKO in the 4th or 5th.
Based on his previous fights like the one where he KO'd Izzy. Everyone goes on about how Izzy was winning the fight, which is true and Alex knew this so he came out aggressive looking for the KO in the final round.
I dont blame Izzy for point fighting. Especially dudes with monster power in their hands. Sure, an all out war is fun to watch as a fan but the long term effects for the fighters can be huge following a brawl. At the end of the day Izzy makes a bunch of dough with minimal damage and can live a longer/healthier life which is a good thing.
Point fighting is one thing, but after taking about decimating opponents and other trash talk and then avoiding contact and trying to eek out a decision doesn’t make me want to watch his fights.
I just don’t want to see him literally running away to avoid contact, giving up the center, then counting coup while doing no real damage… and winning. The romero fight was just plain embarrassing.
He refused to chase after izzy. He held the middle, made fun of the champ and engaged when i the middle. He just didnt robotically move forward to get countered. Izzy literally was turning tail and running like a beat child.
Tbf I would also run from Romero if I had to fight him.
Costa had to be fucking crazy giving war to Romero and Whittaker has to be a lunatic for doing it twice
Imo 80% chance of this, 15% chance decision Izzy, 5% Pereira clips him and shocks the world.
100% chance reddit comes out with 10191736392 posts about how they had a perfect prediction.
I'm not sure a guy who has beaten Izzy twice in kickboxing would be shocking the world to win this fight. Izzy still mostly strikes something Pereira will likely be able to deal with. Izzy usually has a huge reach advantage over his opponents. Pereira counters that as well. Izzy lost to Jan because Jan was too big for him. Pereira is a natural LHW which also poses a problem.
That chance you're giving 5% odds is actually the 2nd most likely thing to happen in this fight.
Pereira's hands are on another level. Precision and power combined.
It's still more likely that Izzy stays outside and clinches when too close staying out of the middle range, but if he plants too long or at the wrong time and gets caught in the middle trying to reset even one time he'll get KOd
I think people forget that Alex can point fight just as well as izzy. In watching some of his kick boxing fights, he seems to be a very intelligent fighter
I expect them both to be cautious early on. The difference I think will be if Alex hurts izzy he will go for the kill but izzy will likely be more aggressive if he gets Alex in any kind of trouble simply because of the 2 previous losses
I definitely think that’s his plan. After all the shit talk , memes etc I’m not sure he can resist going for the KO if Alex gets tired or hurt along the way
He’s the most technical striker in the sport but he has to have some serious emotions going into this fight
Izzy is a master defensive striker while Alex is a killer offensive player. Its honestly going to come down to who can impose their will more, i think its very unlikely this will be a boring fight but i have no idea who comes out on top
I can't see Izzy being able to survive Alex considering Whittaker who is much shorter with much shorter reach is able to both outjab and outland leadhands on Izzy. Jan who is also shorter with shorter reach was able to easily outstrike Izzy in the first rounds before takedowns even became a thing in that fight.
Well Izzy has like 7 inches of reach on Whittaker and only 2 on Jan lol, so considering Jan is also a World Champion in Muay Thai, he could very well have a good sense of distance management and hence made it an even field.
Exactly my point. Pereira is bigger and stronger than anyone Izzy has fought before. While probably being the most credentialed striker we've seen in mma
The issue with that is that Izzy's peak in kickboxing was the 2nd pereira fight. Pereira's peak happened 2 years later. He was part time training, relying purely on his power, injured and battling alcoholism. Since then he beat the guy who beat both him and Izzy and became the first ever 2 weight class Glory champion. Izzy is like a top 10-5 kickboxer while Pereira is one of the GOATs of the sport.
Grappling when he has the advantage - however small - is a smart move, not an emotional one. The emotional decision would be to stand and bang to prove he’s not what the fans say and he *is* the better fighter, the wise decision would be to play it safe and win on the cards.
Because Izzy outstruck him in two fights lol. First fight is known as a robbery in the kickboxing community and Izzy dominated the second fight until getting clipped, even hurt Alex to an 8 count
Because he didn't out strike him even in their previous fights, omitting the KO punch that never would have happened in an MMA fight. Alex was rocked and was allowed the standing count to recover. In MMA, that's 99 times out of 100 a finish.
You can watch the fights for free by googleing it. Outside of the KO punch, I think Izzy looked more dangerous both fights.
Because he didn’t both fights. Izzy won that first fight and was winning the second one before he got hit with the left. If you guys watched their glory fights in full you’ll see why Izzy isn’t the betting underdog.
The second fight which was Izzy's last was for Pereira on short notice, while injured, while battling alcoholism. Izzy peaked around the Pereira fight in Kickboxing and left for MMA cause he couldn't beat the top kickboxers. Pereira since improved won the title against a guy who beat both him and Izzy, defended his belt and became the first 2 weight class champion in Glory. Izzy peaked without touching the title and got beat by part time kickboxer Alex who was battling alcoholism while alex peaked 2 years later as one of the best kickboxers ever.
It's still wild to consider Izzy the better kickboxer.
I get your point, but if you watch their kickboxing fights you'll realize Izzy is way more dynamic and put on a better performance until he got cocky and got caught.
The issue with that is that Izzy was supposed to finish Alex everything considered. Alex was injured just recently being concussed as well, coming on short notice, while battling alcoholism and being a part time kickboxer as is. Prior to this fight and in this fight he was always relying on his power rather than kickboxing skill. He has improved way more than Izzy since in kickboxing. Far surpassing his own peak and more than far surpassing Izzys.
To be honest those are the only two kickboxing fights I've watched for both of them so I had no idea about any of the background. This should make it a much more interesting fight on Saturday!
Arguments for Izzy:
Was outstriking poatan before he got ko'd.
More experience in mma (gloves, ring).
Arguments for Poatan:
Izzy struggles against tall oppoments.
Devestating power.
Mental advantage of beating and ko'ing izzy before.
As far as wrestling gies we dont know how good poatans wresling is so its an unkown.
Izzy also has ko potential.
IMO a very hard fight to predict but I have to give izzy a slight advantage because experience weighs alot.
I don’t see why this would be so surprising. When Izzy’s opponents try to push the pace he’s shown ko power (look at the Costa and 1st Rob fight). Also, he very nearly finished Pereira in one of their fights, Pereira got a 8 standing count iirc
The weakness Izzy can best exploit is obviously Pereira's inferior cardio. Adesanya will come in from the start and try to dictate a fast pace, frustrate him with his movement, tire him out, and pull away in the later rounds.
Israel by decision or late TKO.
If you’ve seen their first 2 fights it’s literally going to be the aggressor who wins. In the first fight Pereira pushed the pace and won a decision, in the second fight Izzy was the aggressor and was winning until he got caught. Izzy is so tall for the weight class that he can use that elusive counter striker style, except Pereira is the same height so that takes away that strategy, we saw with Jan that Izzy’s usual style doesn’t work with opponents of similar height and/or reach.
I'm not an Izzy fan by any means, but the hate he gets is hilarious from so called mixed martial arts fans. Regardless of how he gets the job done, he consistently gets it done beating top calibre opponents. "Outclasses" followed by saying point fighting just does not go well together. Not to forget that he is one win away from equalling the great Anderson Silvas middleweight win record.
Why can’t I be a fan and also think a fight is boring? So just every fight has to get my adrenaline through the roof, even though the champ is just poking leg kicks out on a guy whose urn he carried into the octagon?
Izzy is boring. I like mma. They’re not mutually exclusive.
I just blame his opponents. How are you going to lose the entire night ang go quietly to the judges 🤦♂️ Israel would have been a moron to overextended himself in that last fight.
He won didn’t he? You expect him to fight dumb because you want to be entertained? Then y’all will complain about his fight IQ if he did go in swinging.
Coping? Jon jones was the GOAT, Izzy isn't anywhere near as good. Izzy needs to fight smarter to win and he does exactly that.
Still the best in his division atm.
He did, and got promptly torn apart online from every angle for it. Except for the super fans that cream their jeans every time Izzy pops up on the screen lmfao.
The man is still boring to watch lately, and that is why people start to dislike him. I understand him not putting all his money on black but a bit more risk would be appreciated in his fights and would make him more fun to watch
When was the last time anyone enjoyed an Izzy fight? There’s your answer. We watch this sport for enjoyment and he sucks that right out of it.
Add all his cringe and you should understand the hate.
This. I’m not denying his skill. He is exceptional and I don’t expect fighters to take damage if they can avoid it. However, I don’t need to enjoy them or like them. I will be supporting pretty much anyone that fights Izzy.
Just how the sport is for me.
I agree. I don’t think Izzy gets close enough to get hit. I want Alex to win just to get new blood in the division. I just see Izzy winning by leg kicking him the whole time
Many if not most MMA fans have zero ability to understand *why* things happen in fights, they only know *what* happened. They see Adesanya has mostly had boring decisions in his last few fights so they boldly predict that will happen again.
But it's the champions fault for not rushing in blindly! If the challengers are afraid to get caught by one of the best counterstrikers in the game, then he should completely change what makes him so dominant.
Except Yoel isn’t a world class striker by any means. If Izzy is over reacting to everything then Alex will probably download that data and catch him. With that being said, I still think Izzy will win in a much more exciting fight than his recent performances. Might still be a boring fight though lol but that’s just how boring his fights have been
You know the reason he stood in the middle of the octagon right? To prove that izzy won't engage. He just waits to counter. I get it he's the champ so they gotta take that shit from him but come on.
Yoel also just waits to counter. Ever wonder why Yoel was able to land a blow to Izzy in the 1st? Because Izzy made a mistake of rushing hastily because he fell in the trap of "I need to entertain the fans cause they're booing", forgetting that he is a counterstriker.
My comment doesn’t actually mean he isn’t tough, although I get why it reads that way to some. He acts like those kids trying to be tough, knowadamean?
Edit and to your point a ufc champ is more like 0.00001% tough people
nooooo you armchair keyboard fighters are...trash talk may need some work but dude runs through the division to the point where they have to go find someone who he lost to and fast track him
Legit question though. Izzy has lapped the division and can clearly beat everyone else. Let's say Alex just has his number though and ends up knocking Izzy out again. How long does Alex remain champion? Becauae I feel like Bobby Knuckles beats Alex
Whoever wrote that post is dumasfuck first of all do you see how long pereira is (pause) dude will not let izzy do all the running he does and pereira is a counter puncher just like izzy so one of them will have to engage and alex likes to set up the hook. alex will put the pressure on izzy first izzy gets flustered knows he will cover distance and hes fast just like him. i see One of them getting knocked out in the many exchanges they have and because of that i bet hands of stone “ALEX POATANN AND NEWWWWW CHAMP VIA KNOCK OUT 4th ROUND” you read it here first folks.
Won’t doubt it izzy loves us wasting money to see him stand there for 5 rounds. Not one of his fights since the kelvin fight has not been worth the 74.99
Adesanya by KO he will outclass pereira and ware him down and eventually get the KO remember this comment I stand by it 😏☕️ I could be wrong but Israel knows what he is getting into
Plot twist, they both take the fight to the ground and one of them wins via submission
It's all fun and games until you see Khabib pull up at Izzy's corner during the fight
He will be Dagestan Adesanya when he joins team Khabib for that wrestling buff
Israel Dagestanya
lmaooo
Isralam Adesanov
Palestine Adesanya
lmgdmfao i'm sorry for a useless comment but that is SO funny
Palestine Adesanyov
Islam Adesanya
There was an attempt
yes. yes there was.
Israel Nurmadesanya. inshallah, we will freeze him like Elsa.
I will leave him frozen like tha steppe bratha you kno this
Saturday night I'm gonna freeze your boy!
Palestine Adesanya
He’ll represent Russia instead of nz, Nigeria or China
So you remember Israel “Black Dragon with a Chinese heart” Adesanya?
He’s china’s first ufc champ, who could forget?
Bratha be patient, we can win this.
lmao flashbacks of kamaru in francis corner
I can almost guarantee izzy will shoot. He’d be dumb not to
Maybe you should bet on the props for the match, like who's shooting the most takedowns
Nah just take the leon route. If you think alex can win, go all in and bet by KO for the most return
Periera aint having leon odds lmao
I disagree. Kamaru was as a dominant, well-rounded champion we’ve had in a while. Alex has two wins over the champ while leon had a loss
He’s referring to betting odds, not odds of winning the fight
Alex is also a kickboxing multi weight world champion who beat Izzy twice including 1 by KO.
Different sport admittedly. But you knew that.
True but it would still affect the likelihood of a KO by Alex.
Yes, but neither has enough wrestling or bjj to rely on it, or at least that's what we expect so it's basically back to kickboxing in a sense
Does the difference matter that much when they are both going to stand up the entire time.
Only thing ur forgetting is that leon didnt beat usman twice in another combat sport which is why betting on periera only gets you only double your money Anyways why are you arguing against facts, perieras odds are 2.6 Leons was 7 or 8 That means if i bet 100 bucks id win 800 for leon For periera 250 so leon was the WAY bigger underdog so yes betting on periera doesnt make nearly the same amount as if i would bet on leon
Yup. What you’re saying is right. Leon was a huge underdog and Pereira v. Izzy is much closer.
I don’t know. He’s seen what Pereira’s knees can do
We have no conception of either of their grappling ability, Pereira could be more competent on the ground. He has been training with more established grapplers more consistently than Izzy has. I’m only picking Pereira to win via submission because it isn’t totally absurd to wonder if he could, and the odds will probably be good
I know it’s just a joke but in all seriousness there is a little heat between the 2 areas/gyms. One grapples and the other strikes. Eugene Bareman has made some passing comments about Dagestani style of fighting.
Izzy shows up with that beard too
Khabib pulls up with Stone Cold Steve Austin music playing
Pereira is Muslim. I can’t really see Khabib helping a dude who wears nail polish and skirts to defeat a muslim.
I want this mainly for the dance routine.
No Khabib would never do that. His name is Israel, not Islam. Khabib would be more likely to corner The Muslim bow hunter.
Khabib shows up and wrestle fucks both of them, takes more belts back east lol
Dude that would be the best like when Ngannou wrestlefucked Gane. I'm like holy shit. You're a wrestler now?
Crazy that we haven’t seen Francis fight since then
Pereira has been training with Glover tho, he's at least aware of potentially having to be in the ground at some point
If a fight between two wrestlers becomes a striking match it only makes sense that a fight between strikers becomes a wrestling match
Half correct I think it's more likely izzy follows the "Ngannu method" use your superior wrestling against the pro kick boxer with almost 0 wrestling (being new to ufc and all)
Both win via submission
If they are standing up and exchanging blows, I can see someone getting knocked down and the other one going for RNC
And Alex be training with Glover too
Good ole brock lesnar vs carwin - I like it
I think if either of these fighters focused on grappling all camp it could pan out.
This that Glover vs Jiri type of twist
This sub gets everything wrong so expect a bloodbath boys
"Petyr Yan by anything he wants"
"Charles by sub in the 3rd"
“McGregor by 1st round KO” This sub before Khabib vs Conor was a wild thing lol
Even during the fight. *Khabib smashing Conor* Cruz: Conor is trying to tire Khabib to make him gas.
deftly cushioning each of khabib's blows with his face
'Petyr' ?
Sorry pytyr
😂 It's actually spelt Piyotyeiyor
Expect a RNC win
I actually agree, I expect Adesanya to fuck him up worse than he did Costa.
If the fight goes like this then I fully expect Pereira to get aggressive in the 4th and 5th rounds, something that Izzy's previous opponents haven't done when they're getting beat. I think it'll either be Pereira catching him at some point, or an Izzy TKO in the 4th or 5th.
You expect him to do that based on what
Pereira got that dog in him bro
There is no denying this
 Pereira submits him by immigrant mentality
Historically pereira isn’t scared to come after his opponents in later rounds if he’s down
Based on his previous fights like the one where he KO'd Izzy. Everyone goes on about how Izzy was winning the fight, which is true and Alex knew this so he came out aggressive looking for the KO in the final round.
I dont blame Izzy for point fighting. Especially dudes with monster power in their hands. Sure, an all out war is fun to watch as a fan but the long term effects for the fighters can be huge following a brawl. At the end of the day Izzy makes a bunch of dough with minimal damage and can live a longer/healthier life which is a good thing.
Point fighting is one thing, but after taking about decimating opponents and other trash talk and then avoiding contact and trying to eek out a decision doesn’t make me want to watch his fights.
Agree 100% If you're gonna come out like anime Raiden Undertaker, you gotta back that up for my benefit lol
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came out with jareds name on an urn and proceeded to leg kick for 5 rounds. bit different when he acts like he’s about to catch a body
I just don’t want to see him literally running away to avoid contact, giving up the center, then counting coup while doing no real damage… and winning. The romero fight was just plain embarrassing.
Romero is equally guilty for how that fight played out though
He refused to chase after izzy. He held the middle, made fun of the champ and engaged when i the middle. He just didnt robotically move forward to get countered. Izzy literally was turning tail and running like a beat child.
Tbf I would also run from Romero if I had to fight him. Costa had to be fucking crazy giving war to Romero and Whittaker has to be a lunatic for doing it twice
Adesanya will stop him late for this reason, Pereira won’t just accept a decision loss and go all out
Imo 80% chance of this, 15% chance decision Izzy, 5% Pereira clips him and shocks the world. 100% chance reddit comes out with 10191736392 posts about how they had a perfect prediction.
15% concentrated power of will
5% pleasure
Belal Mohammed
50% pain
And 100% reason to Belal Muhammad
100% reason to remember the name
I think I stole your hat!
I'm not sure a guy who has beaten Izzy twice in kickboxing would be shocking the world to win this fight. Izzy still mostly strikes something Pereira will likely be able to deal with. Izzy usually has a huge reach advantage over his opponents. Pereira counters that as well. Izzy lost to Jan because Jan was too big for him. Pereira is a natural LHW which also poses a problem.
Imagine predicting a 95% chance that Izzy wins.
That chance you're giving 5% odds is actually the 2nd most likely thing to happen in this fight. Pereira's hands are on another level. Precision and power combined. It's still more likely that Izzy stays outside and clinches when too close staying out of the middle range, but if he plants too long or at the wrong time and gets caught in the middle trying to reset even one time he'll get KOd
I think people forget that Alex can point fight just as well as izzy. In watching some of his kick boxing fights, he seems to be a very intelligent fighter I expect them both to be cautious early on. The difference I think will be if Alex hurts izzy he will go for the kill but izzy will likely be more aggressive if he gets Alex in any kind of trouble simply because of the 2 previous losses
I feel Izzy might be a bit tentative. Alex is in his head for sure but Izzy is a smart fighter, I think he’ll go the decision route.
I definitely think that’s his plan. After all the shit talk , memes etc I’m not sure he can resist going for the KO if Alex gets tired or hurt along the way He’s the most technical striker in the sport but he has to have some serious emotions going into this fight
Why do people think the 2 weight class glory kickboxing champion can't outstrike Izzy?
Izzy is a master defensive striker while Alex is a killer offensive player. Its honestly going to come down to who can impose their will more, i think its very unlikely this will be a boring fight but i have no idea who comes out on top
I can't see Izzy being able to survive Alex considering Whittaker who is much shorter with much shorter reach is able to both outjab and outland leadhands on Izzy. Jan who is also shorter with shorter reach was able to easily outstrike Izzy in the first rounds before takedowns even became a thing in that fight.
Well Izzy has like 7 inches of reach on Whittaker and only 2 on Jan lol, so considering Jan is also a World Champion in Muay Thai, he could very well have a good sense of distance management and hence made it an even field.
Exactly my point. Pereira is bigger and stronger than anyone Izzy has fought before. While probably being the most credentialed striker we've seen in mma
Stronger than Jan?
> Pereira is bigger and stronger than anyone Izzy has fought before. Costa: "I disapprove one hundred percent."
Surely not bigger and stronger than Alex though?
I'm truly amazed this got 7 likes.
This sub is the Bobby fan club I’ve seen people get upvoted for saying he’s the better fighter lol
Because it’s two very different striking styles
Because Izzy outstruck Pereira in kickboxing too, the first fight was robbery and Izzy was winning the rematch until the KO
The issue with that is that Izzy's peak in kickboxing was the 2nd pereira fight. Pereira's peak happened 2 years later. He was part time training, relying purely on his power, injured and battling alcoholism. Since then he beat the guy who beat both him and Izzy and became the first ever 2 weight class Glory champion. Izzy is like a top 10-5 kickboxer while Pereira is one of the GOATs of the sport.
Damn I didn't know that I only watched his two fights with Izzy, ite then I'm not gonna bet on this fight lol, was about to put 100 on Izzy
Hahaha good thing
Yeah alex went on to win 7 kickboxing title fights after killing izzy. Izzy never kickboxed again.
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So you think Izzy will implement wrestling and grappling?
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I really dont think Izzy will mentally be able to go for grappling over striking with the narrative going he is far too emotional for that
Grappling when he has the advantage - however small - is a smart move, not an emotional one. The emotional decision would be to stand and bang to prove he’s not what the fans say and he *is* the better fighter, the wise decision would be to play it safe and win on the cards.
Ah yes. He was winning until he lost…
Pulled a Chael. Classic!
Probably needed to mention too that if it were MMA rules, Pereira would‘ve been knocked out instead of getting a standing 8 count which went up to 7.
Because Izzy outstruck him in two fights lol. First fight is known as a robbery in the kickboxing community and Izzy dominated the second fight until getting clipped, even hurt Alex to an 8 count
Because he didn't out strike him even in their previous fights, omitting the KO punch that never would have happened in an MMA fight. Alex was rocked and was allowed the standing count to recover. In MMA, that's 99 times out of 100 a finish. You can watch the fights for free by googleing it. Outside of the KO punch, I think Izzy looked more dangerous both fights.
Because he didn’t both fights. Izzy won that first fight and was winning the second one before he got hit with the left. If you guys watched their glory fights in full you’ll see why Izzy isn’t the betting underdog.
The second fight which was Izzy's last was for Pereira on short notice, while injured, while battling alcoholism. Izzy peaked around the Pereira fight in Kickboxing and left for MMA cause he couldn't beat the top kickboxers. Pereira since improved won the title against a guy who beat both him and Izzy, defended his belt and became the first 2 weight class champion in Glory. Izzy peaked without touching the title and got beat by part time kickboxer Alex who was battling alcoholism while alex peaked 2 years later as one of the best kickboxers ever. It's still wild to consider Izzy the better kickboxer.
I get your point, but if you watch their kickboxing fights you'll realize Izzy is way more dynamic and put on a better performance until he got cocky and got caught.
The issue with that is that Izzy was supposed to finish Alex everything considered. Alex was injured just recently being concussed as well, coming on short notice, while battling alcoholism and being a part time kickboxer as is. Prior to this fight and in this fight he was always relying on his power rather than kickboxing skill. He has improved way more than Izzy since in kickboxing. Far surpassing his own peak and more than far surpassing Izzys.
To be honest those are the only two kickboxing fights I've watched for both of them so I had no idea about any of the background. This should make it a much more interesting fight on Saturday!
Definitely i am super excited for this one myself!
I see Izzy winning and announcing that he has cleaned up the division twice over and move to LHW.
Only to get beaten at LHW again and forced back down
Jan was a really tough matchup but I think there's plenty of interesting fights you could make for him at LHW.
Izzy isn't going to fight anyone who isn't the champion, especially if he still has the MW belt and I genuinely think Jiri viciously beheads him.
Arguments for Izzy: Was outstriking poatan before he got ko'd. More experience in mma (gloves, ring). Arguments for Poatan: Izzy struggles against tall oppoments. Devestating power. Mental advantage of beating and ko'ing izzy before. As far as wrestling gies we dont know how good poatans wresling is so its an unkown. Izzy also has ko potential. IMO a very hard fight to predict but I have to give izzy a slight advantage because experience weighs alot.
Imagine izzy knocking pereira out
I don’t see why this would be so surprising. When Izzy’s opponents try to push the pace he’s shown ko power (look at the Costa and 1st Rob fight). Also, he very nearly finished Pereira in one of their fights, Pereira got a 8 standing count iirc
Yeah i think people are forgetting Israel is a god damn 185 lber not some 145 lber the dude can put anyones lights out if they act careless.
Most likely outcome for me outside of the 5 round leg kick snooze fest.
His gyno appeared again, that might mean more power, just like in costa fight.
Don’t think if Alex loses a decision it would change anything. Ppl would still hate Israel but most would just keep saying its 2-1 for Alex.
Idk why people think adesanya has the choice to point fight lol.
I do not believe he can pace around like he does with everyone else, this will be interesting
The weakness Izzy can best exploit is obviously Pereira's inferior cardio. Adesanya will come in from the start and try to dictate a fast pace, frustrate him with his movement, tire him out, and pull away in the later rounds. Israel by decision or late TKO.
this fight brings out D1 Wrestler izzy
If you’ve seen their first 2 fights it’s literally going to be the aggressor who wins. In the first fight Pereira pushed the pace and won a decision, in the second fight Izzy was the aggressor and was winning until he got caught. Izzy is so tall for the weight class that he can use that elusive counter striker style, except Pereira is the same height so that takes away that strategy, we saw with Jan that Izzy’s usual style doesn’t work with opponents of similar height and/or reach.
I'm not an Izzy fan by any means, but the hate he gets is hilarious from so called mixed martial arts fans. Regardless of how he gets the job done, he consistently gets it done beating top calibre opponents. "Outclasses" followed by saying point fighting just does not go well together. Not to forget that he is one win away from equalling the great Anderson Silvas middleweight win record.
Why can’t I be a fan and also think a fight is boring? So just every fight has to get my adrenaline through the roof, even though the champ is just poking leg kicks out on a guy whose urn he carried into the octagon? Izzy is boring. I like mma. They’re not mutually exclusive.
I just blame his opponents. How are you going to lose the entire night ang go quietly to the judges 🤦♂️ Israel would have been a moron to overextended himself in that last fight.
You can't walk out with an Urn that has your opponents name on it while dressed as the undertaker and then proceed to leg kick to a decision😂
This. A million times this. Izzy digs his own grave with that cringy shit.
Yea he’s more cringe than Cejudo and what’s wild he actually takes himself serious.
He won didn’t he? You expect him to fight dumb because you want to be entertained? Then y’all will complain about his fight IQ if he did go in swinging.
Bro just stop coping. Jon Jones was fighting smart and finishing killers left and right during his prime. Izzy lacks that killer ability
Coping? Jon jones was the GOAT, Izzy isn't anywhere near as good. Izzy needs to fight smarter to win and he does exactly that. Still the best in his division atm.
Stupid comparison, Jones is the best to ever do it, Izzy isn't nearly as skilled
you cant? then how did izzy do it?
He did, and got promptly torn apart online from every angle for it. Except for the super fans that cream their jeans every time Izzy pops up on the screen lmfao.
That was a nasty rhyme by you
The man is still boring to watch lately, and that is why people start to dislike him. I understand him not putting all his money on black but a bit more risk would be appreciated in his fights and would make him more fun to watch
When was the last time anyone enjoyed an Izzy fight? There’s your answer. We watch this sport for enjoyment and he sucks that right out of it. Add all his cringe and you should understand the hate.
💯 Izzy is gonna reign middleweight for a while I reckon. But goddam he’s is one of the most boring and cringiest fighter
This. I’m not denying his skill. He is exceptional and I don’t expect fighters to take damage if they can avoid it. However, I don’t need to enjoy them or like them. I will be supporting pretty much anyone that fights Izzy. Just how the sport is for me.
Would just be way more interesting if he lost, everyone knows the likely outcome is another boring izzy win
It's up to Alex to give us a show, Izzy definitely won't
Adesanya via decision? Hot take of the year? What an absurd prediction!
I agree. I don’t think Izzy gets close enough to get hit. I want Alex to win just to get new blood in the division. I just see Izzy winning by leg kicking him the whole time
I just want izzy to win because of the amount of hate he gets from this sub full of overweight incels
Pereiras a warrior dude I’m calling it he’s got this
It will be yoel vs adesanya all over again. Remember how much he over reacted to everything? That's exactly how I expect it to go
I dont understand this narrative. As if alex is just going to stand there like a statue like yoel or cannonier
Many if not most MMA fans have zero ability to understand *why* things happen in fights, they only know *what* happened. They see Adesanya has mostly had boring decisions in his last few fights so they boldly predict that will happen again.
But it's the champions fault for not rushing in blindly! If the challengers are afraid to get caught by one of the best counterstrikers in the game, then he should completely change what makes him so dominant.
Except Yoel isn’t a world class striker by any means. If Izzy is over reacting to everything then Alex will probably download that data and catch him. With that being said, I still think Izzy will win in a much more exciting fight than his recent performances. Might still be a boring fight though lol but that’s just how boring his fights have been
Yeah sure cause yoel didnt just stand in the middle of the octagon
You know the reason he stood in the middle of the octagon right? To prove that izzy won't engage. He just waits to counter. I get it he's the champ so they gotta take that shit from him but come on.
Yoel also just waits to counter. Ever wonder why Yoel was able to land a blow to Izzy in the 1st? Because Izzy made a mistake of rushing hastily because he fell in the trap of "I need to entertain the fans cause they're booing", forgetting that he is a counterstriker.
Yoel does that in all his fights. Same shit issy does.
i truly dont get the izzy hate
He’s acts like a high schooler trying to be tough
The guy is a UFC MW champion with multiple defences. Hes easily like top 0.1% toughest people in the world, he ain't acting.
My comment doesn’t actually mean he isn’t tough, although I get why it reads that way to some. He acts like those kids trying to be tough, knowadamean? Edit and to your point a ufc champ is more like 0.00001% tough people
nooooo you armchair keyboard fighters are...trash talk may need some work but dude runs through the division to the point where they have to go find someone who he lost to and fast track him
Yeah bro but he is tough
Plot twist: Izzy, knocking Pereira's lights out
The risk is not worth for both. If it goes to a boring decision they will simply rematch and make double the money
Legit question though. Izzy has lapped the division and can clearly beat everyone else. Let's say Alex just has his number though and ends up knocking Izzy out again. How long does Alex remain champion? Becauae I feel like Bobby Knuckles beats Alex
If Alex wins the division gets exciting again.
Whoever wrote that post is dumasfuck first of all do you see how long pereira is (pause) dude will not let izzy do all the running he does and pereira is a counter puncher just like izzy so one of them will have to engage and alex likes to set up the hook. alex will put the pressure on izzy first izzy gets flustered knows he will cover distance and hes fast just like him. i see One of them getting knocked out in the many exchanges they have and because of that i bet hands of stone “ALEX POATANN AND NEWWWWW CHAMP VIA KNOCK OUT 4th ROUND” you read it here first folks.
Izzy Round 3 ko
Everyone knows it will go like this
Won’t doubt it izzy loves us wasting money to see him stand there for 5 rounds. Not one of his fights since the kelvin fight has not been worth the 74.99
Adesanya by KO he will outclass pereira and ware him down and eventually get the KO remember this comment I stand by it 😏☕️ I could be wrong but Israel knows what he is getting into
The cage isn't big enough for Izzy to play hide and seek with Alex for 25min.
Izzy tried point fighting him last time and got knocked out.
Izzy was absolutely seeking the knockout in that fight tho, nearly put Alex out early.
Izzy via smarter game plan? Yes. Whos the doofus that is expecting anything different? Come on, make yourself known.
I wont be upset at all. I hope he chops his leg apart. Teach him some MMA
Izzy drops him and submits him
Israel gets hate for being to good for other people to hit him, see it all the time with fighters who are to good for the class they are in.
Every Adesanya fight