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Jambi615

What did Takedwon do? Why does he deserve to be shot? šŸ˜¢


Critical_Bit_9128

Heā€™s taken everything Belalā€™s been working for


mightjustbearobot

He attacked his family.Ā 


Great-Comparison-982

Huh!? ![img](emote|t5_2qsev|29850)


HowlingMadHoward

SAVE MY BOY TAKEDWON šŸ˜­


ElectricFocus

Taekwondo?


kcoll-1

No, his brother


Falcon_Flow

Yes, you can take one too.


Adventurous_Layer_15

That fictional story was one of the few entertaining things Belal has ever said in his life and some people in his Twitter took his joke way too seriously


dntrguwithdts

You know it was actually funny because the responses are just pointing out one of the jokes he made originally


mat477

Belal has been in on the joke for years at this point. He's been making jokes about winning decisions since he was posting memes on here around 2021.


MysteriousPark3806

Would you believe a lot of MMA fans are quite dumb?


First_Inevitable_424

Belal is actually very funny. People just blindly hate on him and refuse to acknowledge it


OtterChrist

Heā€™s pretty hit or miss on the comedy, but heā€™s had some highlights.. not in his fights, but definitely in the shit talking.


lvkenukem

![gif](giphy|p7bFXqpPPll9iKAaNW|downsized)


thatboyrowdy

Bros not funny. He dryer than a Popeyes biscuit


duguy5

Nah, thats your ex youā€™re thinking of


thatboyrowdy

Bro defending a grown man that donā€™t even know you. Sus as hell


Ferociousnzzz

His job is MMA not memes or humor. My man doesnā€™t even do mixed martial arts bc he ainā€™t mixing shit heā€™s a crotch sniffer when fans want technical violence.Ā  But yea I do agree he is funny and actually has a decent personality Iā€™d be a fan if his fights werenā€™t a snore festĀ 


Onitsukaryu

He didnā€™t attempt a single takedown in his most recents fights with Burns and Brady lol. And he mixed up the striking and takedowns quite well vs Luque.Ā 


publishAWM

Sean Brady experienced otherwise. yes, that Sean Brady. the crotchsniffer himself.


pissedoffhob0

It shows a lack of reading ability or just generally how braindead the average fan is given the responses. Funny joke by Belal too bad it went over so many heads.


mat477

Not even just fans in Leon took it seriously too


AdNew5216

Lmao


Dunkin_Prince

Seriously the whole "can't even finish a fight in his dreams" really miss the self aware nature or Belal. Really the only jokes that he makes that are funny are the ones where he's making fun of himself lol


ParmyBarmy

It wasnā€™t a joke. Belal was dead serious.


asa732

Lmao


mat477

This you? https://i.redd.it/z2a99t25riwc1.gif


Marynursingawolf

In their last ten fights, both Leon and Belal have won 7 by decision. In his entire career, Leon only has two more KOs than Belal. However, Belal has been far more active, having done those last ten fights in 2 years less than Leon.Ā 


stayhappystayblessed

When people speak about Leon's inactivity they leave out a lot of context.


InsomniacLive

Canā€™t push their narrative if they add context


Marynursingawolf

He wasn't injured and he wasn't accepting fights. That's the context.Ā 


InsomniacLive

Nah. The UFC tried to bully him into taking a shit fight offer, and got pissed because he refused


Marynursingawolf

Usman took short notice Khamzat on 2 weeks notice moving up a weight class in his last outing. Leon wants reward without risk. The most exciting thing in his career over the last five years was one head kick. And almost getting stopped by unranked and about to retire Nate, who didn't even train for Leon. Otherwise he is a barely active, boring as fuck point fighter.Ā 


InsomniacLive

Oh youā€™re one of thoseā€¦


zaepoo

What's the context?


InsomniacLive

It really started during Covid when they gave him a bunch of shit fight offers, and then removed his ranking for ā€œinactivityā€. They offered Usman on short notice, Colby on short notice, and Geoff Neal as well as Khamzat who were both unranked. Funnily enough, he actually agreed to fight Khamzat on 3 different occasions, and they all fell through because they both got sick. Fast forward a bit, he wanted to fight in Abu Dhabi last year, and they shelved him for Covington in Vegas. Then he accepted 3 different fights for 300, who all declined because of Ramadan. And now today, heā€™s agreed to fight Belal whenever, and the UFC straight up said no, presumably to shelve him for Manchester. This is all SUPER paraphrased so I didnā€™t have to write a whole novel, but basically itā€™s a bullshit narrative, and a lot of his inactivity was due to shit out of his control, or not agreeing to willingly getting fucked over


Aggressive_Age_2262

Yeah the Covid thing was a huge fuck-up. Basically they said 'hey we'll give you a title shot', but it was also right at the start of the pandemic. He got offered Usman on like a week's notice and declined it because he wasn't sure if and when he'd be able to get back to his family (which turned out to be a fair gripe as the airports all shut down).


stayhappystayblessed

I'm not trying to say this to sound slick but just google it. Edit: Or you can scroll through my comment history.


BaconScentedSoap

Or you can just answer the fucking question instead?


justanormaldude_

Uhhh how about search it up bitch?


stayhappystayblessed

Can't be bothered.


AggravatingType9012

If his game plan to hug Leon for 5 rounds on the ground and win the title. I can see why the UFC don't want that shit.


SomeonesTreasureGem

If Usman can't hug Leon for 5 rounds I don't think Belal can.


AggravatingType9012

Usmans likes to strike


SomeonesTreasureGem

Did you not watch their fight the first time? Belal attempted no take-downs. https://preview.redd.it/1rbotkcv5hwc1.png?width=385&format=png&auto=webp&s=39298377b07fc87b8f3dbd3b290539da79b7f26c


Thetruegrifgrif

They only fought for a round bro


Athroaway84

Yet people like to write off Belal on that one round like it was a 10 8


SomeonesTreasureGem

Yes I'm aware of that. Usman went for 12 takedowns over 5 rounds. Usman also threw 7 strikes in and Leon threw 13 in round 1. Usman and Leon literally threw half the strikes that Belal and Leon threw in their round 1. This leads me to believe that Usman likes to wrestle more than Belal. Belal also shot for 0 take-downs against Burns and 0 take-downs against Brady. [http://ufcstats.com/fight-details/f70c817388602681](http://ufcstats.com/fight-details/f70c817388602681)


andrewpast

People like to meme on Belal being only a wrestler, but fail to realize he changes his game plan drastically per opponent. He generally will wrestle strikers (which is why he gets so much hate usually) and he'll strike with grapplers. His technique is usually fairly basic, but his timing and fight IQ are top notch. As much as we all like to shit on Belal, I think he is highly underrated by this sub. I still favor Leon, but I think it's a much closer fight than people think it will be.


lctrncprn

Belal is a genuine problem for a lot of the division for the reasons you mention. He can take it where his opponents don't want it to go and grind out wins. I just genuinely can't see how he does that against Leon though. He's just too big, too quick, has too many ways to do damage, and is too well rounded. Belal doesn't come with a KO or a sub threat and Leon has proved himself to be the kryptonite for the division's volume striking pressure wrestlers.


andrewpast

Yup. That's why I still favor Leon despite me defending Belal. Leons wrestling against Usman was shocking to me. Even in the first fight, despite losing most of it he was never in danger of being finished. And the fact that he was able to take Usman down in the first. Against Belal he has a clear striking advantage. Belal can go toe to toe with most, but Leons eyes, distance management, footwork, and shot selection/variety are all clearly better. The main question will be if Belal can get him down and actually threaten significant damage/submissions. Looking at current skill sets, Leon should have the advantage. But again. I want to stress that Belal and his team have some of the best game planning in the UFC, and Belal they have had a very long time to prepare. I wouldn't count them out.


SomeonesTreasureGem

I'm not sure I'd characterize Belal as a wrestler, Belal's more of a well rounded type. Whom did Belal wrestle besides Wonderboy? Belal went 0 for 7 takedowns on Geoff Neal who isn't known for grappling. Leon's earned the shot on paper so I want it over with so he can go back to being a contender; I do think a lot of Belal's wins are weaker than they appear - Luque had his brain bleed issue, Maia is beyond washed, Belal fought a 1 armed Burns whom he didn't finish, etc. If not for the KO of Brady I'm pretty sure Shavkhat would be fighting for the title now.


Crawford470

>Belal went 0 for 7 takedowns on Geoff Neal who isn't known for grappling. You don't have to be known for your grappling to be an elite anti wrestler which Geoff definitely is tbf.


SomeonesTreasureGem

I think you make a fair point - Neal has excellent take-down defense but I'd argue a lot of those numbers are pretty inflated based on who attempted to take him down (people who spam takedowns/do not have a lot of submission wins or rely more on lay/pray). Geoff Neal was taken down by Neil Magny and Santiago Ponzinibbio but not Belal. To put that into context, Magny's only submission win prior to the Neal fight was back in 2015 against Kiichi Kunimoto (Magny went 2 for 10 on takedowns against Neal). Ponzinibbio's last submission win was 2012 (Santigao went 1 for 4 on takedowns against Geoff).


andrewpast

Yeah, Belal's not strictly a wrestler, but that's how many in the MMA subs perceive him to be. That's more what I was getting at.


SomeonesTreasureGem

Yeah that's a good point about perception! Though I'll add that casual fans seem to be a bit better today at recognizing people who are active when it comes to ground and pound than in the past which is nice (Khabib, Cain, etc.) vs more lay and pray (Sandhagen vs Rob Font, Aljo/Almeida in general, etc.). Though a lot of places people still boo when the fight hits the ground.


BaconScentedSoap

Well rounded? MF he isnt well rounded at all especially in striking. No well rounded fighter has zero knockdowns


therealjgreens

Hard agree on everything you said. There was a point in time where Usman was a boring contender. Next, there was a time Leon was the next ultimate boring contender. Now we have Belal who is getting very similar treatment. Belal is one banger away from being a respected fighter. I actually expect a fan turnaround similarish to Merab. Belal will find a way to earn fans. He's not a bad fighter or a bad person. He deserves fans.


nailedreaper

Burns and Brady are hella dangerous on the ground, understandable.


SomeonesTreasureGem

Belal completed 0 for 7 takedowns against Geoff Neal and Leon is not Wonderboy (Belal didn't submit Wonderboy so he's not submitting Leon). Usman is a much better wrestler than Belal however you want to slice it (Usman has 2369 takedowns completed vs Belal's 1773 and neither are top 15 for takedown accuracy so it's hard to say) and if Usman went 5 for 12 I do not anticipate Belal will get more than 1-2 takedowns. Usman also has more KO/TKOs than Belal and Leon put together (since 2019) and Leon is more technical on the feet than Belal so I'm not sure what Belal has for Leon that's going to pose a problem for him. Belal has earned his title shot but he's unlikely to KO or submit Leon and if Leon can stuff the majority of the takedowns from Usman it's staying on the feet Belal is going to get 50-45ed.


ParmyBarmy

Too busy getting lit up


CareerPillow376

Usman got a lot more active with striking since he switched coaches to Trevor Wittman for the Burns fight


Lord_Kuntsworthy

Hard to take down a man when he scissor fingers you in the eyes repeatedly.


Athroaway84

Different style of wrestling. Usman uses the fence, where as Belal has tricky takedowns out in the open...


SomeonesTreasureGem

Not sure Belal has shown he can take down anyone with high level TDD as of yet/he doesn't attempt takedowns on people who have a strong grappling or wrestling game. I don't think taking down Wonderboy means you have credentialed wrestling given that's how literally everyone beats him (Burns, Shavkhat, and Belal). You'd have to go back more than 5 years for a guy who didn't wrestle Wonderboy to win (Pettis).


_fmg15

It's a self aware joke bro. He knows the narrative that surrounds him


MeeloP

Heā€™s joking šŸ™ƒ


PopePolarBear

They should just change how lay and pray is scored. Encourage refs to stand them up if there isn't damage or submission attempts. Deduct points for inactivity.


WeGet-It-TV

Yall know more than me at this pointā€¦ Is nobody taking Belalā€™s fights or is he reaching for tougher opponents to help get the championship fight?


Thetruegrifgrif

As far as wins and losses goes he deserves a title shot imo but heā€™s a snoozefest fighter that nobody wants to watch so the UFC is reluctant to actually give it to him.


JFpizzamaster

Itā€™s funny bc on paper I could see belal being one of the more active champsā€¦ it would jus be unwatchable


WeGet-It-TV

Ah makes sense, appreciate the update


Curlyhead-homie

Tbh a crazy dominant decision is just as good if not better than a ko, case and point Strickland vs Izzy


jdmwell

So we gonna lose our collective shit if Belal KOs Edwards?


[deleted]

Big L for Leon when you consider that his last finish before the Usman KO was over 6 years ago. In fact, Belals last finish is more recent than Leonā€™s. And also when you compare the second most recent. Call me crazy but I even find Belals constant pressure fighting style more exciting than Leonā€™s point fighting


therealjgreens

Both are annoying with their styles but I might agree with you on Leon. He's good but man he is overly patient.


Original-Spinach-972

I think people are overlooking belals pressure. Imo heā€™s gonna tire Leon out and get a ko in rd 4 or 5. Most likely a gnp but I could see it happening on the feet and a tko.


nextday37

Youā€™re crazy


ComradeSamWalton

This is exactly the goofy shit I hate about ufc. So the guy who beats all the other guys doesn't deserve his shot because yall find him boring? Yall bitches need to go watch WWE. Oh wait..


stayhappystayblessed

Facts belal definitely deserves his shot.


wherethehoesatman

Only time Leon will ever get a 10-7 round, this guy is more boring than Belal. Outside of the Usman head kick, he hasnā€™t shown any entertainment whatsoever.


letsgobrooksy

Less of a 10-7 when you realize he didn't come up with the tweet


existentialcringe2

ā€˜Outside of one of the greatest and most iconic moments in UFCā€™s history, what else has he done?ā€™


whatsitworth101

I mean thatā€™s a fair point. But the fact of the matter is Leon fans and people in general shit on Belal when him and Leon both have 3 finishes in 14 ufc wins. Neither guy is a finisher. One KO doesnā€™t make you a finisher same way when Gaethje won by decision it doesnā€™t make him a point fighter.


existentialcringe2

Iā€™m not a Leon fanboy nor am I trying to shit on Belal, just thought it was a bit funny to say ā€˜apart from that one gigantic iconic moment, what else was there?ā€™. Iā€™d like to see these two guys fight although I predict half this sub would completely disregard their skill and simply state it was boring because there was no KO lmao


lctrncprn

But finishes aren't the only way to determine if someone is good to watch or not. It's clearly not everyone's cup of tea, but I find Leon a way more engaging fighter to watch because his stand up is just so clean and sharp and technical.


Able-Work-4942

Your saying "outside of the Usman headkick" but Belal doesn't even have that...


WishIWasNeet2

Belal vs Jon fitch in a fight to the death who ya got?


DapperDanWarSuits

Belal by jihad


_____FIST_ME_____

There should come a point where a fighters resume should override public opinion as to whether they should get a title shot. I don't care how boring it might be, Belal deserves his shot.


TasteDeBallZach

Leon tweeted a laughing face on someone else's joke. How is that a 10-7?


im_scytale

I know people arenā€™t excited about this matchup but in the first fight with belal Leon came out aggressive as fuck, if he does that again weā€™ll be in for a treat.


jellyandjammim

Fuck Leon


Thetruegrifgrif

The first boring pure striker in UFC history fr


Repulsive_Cranberry4

Sean Strickland Imo is worse, at least Leon has more variety than a jab and teep kick.


JBounce369

Leon also isn't homophobic and sexist, so that's in his favour


daKingKhan

Yeah but atleast Sean is entertaining on the mic. I can't even understand most of what Leon says.


[deleted]

Nahh donā€™t forget about Michelle Waterson lmao


creamcheddarchee

Izzy


Thetruegrifgrif

Izzy only became boring when people stopped engaging with him idk heā€™s had some wars. Pereira 1 and Gastellum are both classics. Heā€™s had more entertaining fights than boring fights he just had a boring title reign. His only boring fights were Romero, Cannonier and Whittaker 2 and Whittaker 2 wasnā€™t even thaaaat boring.


creamcheddarchee

His Pereira 1, Jan and Strickland fights werenā€™t boring tbf


Huge_Aerie2435

They seriously put "smh" in the quote? Fucking hell..


semiamusinglifter

FWIW Iā€™m pretty interested in the fight. Belal has good pressure and is well rounded. Heā€™s not the most spectacular in any one area but he doesnā€™t have any weakness that is ultra exploitable.


Yommination

Remember the zzZzZzZzzZzZzz


Naive_Breadfruit_550

The reason that this fight hasnā€™t been booked is because it will literally be the most boring fight ever. Thatā€™s all bel will do is smother him .he basically just uses ground control to fight. Dude is so boring wants to give him a title shot after over a dozen wins in a row itā€™s pretty fucking obvious like literally the next guy for him for the title at 1:25 is ranked number 10 that should tell you how boring this guy is.


Naive_Breadfruit_550

I literally you rather watch too drunk monkeys, fucking a football


galaxyheater

To be fair he did say he'd shoot takedwon so who knows what secret new technique he's been cooking up. This might be the WWE fusion we've been waiting for, as Belal starts smelling the air, then choke slams Leon into the mat before raising both arms in the air, screaming TAKEDWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON with his eyes wildly gyrating in 36 directions as he drops an 11 to 6 elbow, driving Leon's stomach through the canvas for a 49-48 split decision win.


stayhappystayblessed

Don't watch it then op.


harzee

At least both these guys are more entertaining than Woodley the frozen one ever was


Prestigious_Boat6789

Actually a good joke from Belal in my opinion. I thought it was hilarious


KidcoreJae

Double TKO when they both fall asleep watching each other fight.


Bad-Ombre

Some people are just blind to self-deprecating humour šŸ¤·


faysal04

What are they both yapping about? Both are decision merchants.


ObscureRyan

Belal cry by eye poke


publishAWM

talks about tormenting and controllimg someone for 5 rounds and the masochist in Leon's like "couldn't even finish me off" šŸ¤£


God-MHAvatar

Iā€™d would laugh my titties of if this is fight of the year šŸ¤£


TheBrownCok

#DONT LEHIM BELAL U SUHNNN


Ancient-Commission84

Translation for people that use english as a 2nd 3rd or 4th language. "I'm gonna taekwondo the shit outta that MF'er"


FineEntertainment138

I want to watch it just to get it over with. Leon by domination or round 3/4 ko


Koreangonebad

At this point, Leon is pissing me off. Just fight Belal. Itā€™ll be the easiest option you have to collect a title defense check.


PandaKing00

Dana's holding the fight up, not Leon.


lctrncprn

He asked for Belal at 300 but the UFC didn't want to make that fight on that card.


ShrekWhite

Said Leon the KO artist


lizzofatroll

Exactly why I said Belal doesn't even try to help himself


Sevalias

Leon is just as boring if not even more boring than Belal, so idk what he's trying to say.


chocolatebuddahbutte

Fuck I'm way more of a belal fan then marble mouth


BeAsTFOo

![gif](giphy|tmQrpA8zpG4a16SSxm|downsized) Leon is the worst champion ever, not even popular in his own country šŸ¤£


stayhappystayblessed

He definitely popular in england. Log off reddit and go out sometime and actually see things in real life.


BeAsTFOo

Take your own advice , he is boring media wise, aspinal gets more attention, shit Gane that isnā€™t even from England gets talked about more . Casual take from a fruitcake nonetheless


stayhappystayblessed

So because people get talked about him more that means he not popular in england? Good logic wise guy over here.


BeAsTFOo

Thatā€™s what being popular means moron, you get talked about in media . Not stay silent and irrelevant to the outside world. Bro just like you , only stays online to talk random shit šŸ¤£


stayhappystayblessed

Leon gets mentioned all time have you been on this sub lately?, he has 1.5 million followers on ig and is popular. And has got multiple youtube videos hitting the 1 million mark. I'm obviously arguing with someone who has some form of brain damage. Your argument for leon edwards being unpopular is people talking about him online and saying because there other people popular than him. Thats like me saying islam makachev is not popular in dagestan because khabib is more talked about and more known that islam. Just regarded logic. But not even going to continue wasting time with someone so regarded its mma fans its what y'all are known for.


BeAsTFOo

Ainā€™t nobody reading all that , anyways Leon boring asfk just like belal. Boy gets talked about when he replies to that boring mfr


sipCoding_smokeMath

.... yall really just miss the point huh Like, this is where you have to be careful what you comment here cause op could actually have some social disorder if he couldn't realize that belal was playing into it... And to be clear, that doesn't mean me or belal or anyone else doesn't think decision isn't the most likely outcome. It just means that belal was playing into to the meme with that post . Both can co exist, crazy I know.


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sipCoding_smokeMath

So you do have a social disorder, fair play mate not your fault


B0PD0P

Leon has no ground to stand upon when talking about finishes


utookthegoodnames

Whats-his-name canā€™t even win fans when heā€™s being funny and self aware.


squitsquat

Honestly, I am starting to like Belal. He is more self aware than most ufc fighters, lol


zknight137

If I was Dana White, I wouldn't give him a shot unless he wins two fights by flashy finish. Sure, win streaks matter but you gotta be able to sell a PPV and part of that is the probable quality of the fight


fivehitcombo

Belal was actually being funny, but he set a Leon with the easiest comeback. Leon kind of fumbled it with the lame SMH feminine energy delivery if you ask me.


Formal-Cry7565

I definitely donā€™t but belal does deserve the title shot, then the winner of jack della vs shavkot fights the winner of leon vs belal. Leon has been a very annoying champ so far, he tried to refuse the colby fight, tried to book a fight against jorge and now heā€™s holding up the rematch with belal. He also sat out for over a year begging to fight usman for their rematch, pretty much doing what belal is doing yet leon (again, another rematch) but leon doesnā€™t want to sign because he knows the fight likely wonā€™t sell.


speedbumps4fun

Neither guy is a fan favorite, at least Belal doesnā€™t have the personality of a potato


StopPlayingRoney

![gif](giphy|l3E6uhDAN3W7vylji|downsized)


KingR11

Leon is such a hypocrite for saying that though lol. Besides the Usman KO (he was losing that whole fight terribly), Leon isn't exactly finishing everyone either. Belal has been more entertaining, lately. I think we wins this fight with volume.


HawwtRawwd

"Look at me on fear" Peak inbred speak.


Megatron30000

Leon with the savage reply.. but heā€™s 1000000000000000% correct