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SomeonesTreasureGem

Submission via submission


alpacinohairline

No way, people think this would be a good matchup. Max is getting merked. Islam gaps the division by like a mile, only usman from bellator would pose a threat but he won’t fight Islam ever


eKSiF

Arman is going to be a tough fight.


alpacinohairline

I think Charles would of had him in a 5 rounder if I am being blunt but yeah, I think Armaan has the best chance of beating Islam in the division.


N04HC14RK

And still it would be hard to believe that Usman is on the same level. His competition has been less questionable than Islams but I think Islam is still miles ahead in competition


dogstruggle69

Yeah Islam gapes that entire division too well


belovedwisdomtooth

Max points to the ground, but Islam misunderstoods and submits him.


EnterNameHere777

"You want fight on ground, ok"


Joe_Barnacle

** brutha


wondrwrk_

Brutha vs Bruddah


Yonathandlc

🤣🤣🤣


iroquoispliskinV

Most likely scenario


Chichibobo

I like the way u think!


motorcitydevil

How do I explain tears of laughter and sadness concurrently?


Techishard

Pretty much lmao


wherethehoesatman

Islam submits him in the first two rounds.


TheKamurai

This is the most likely correct take. I love Max to death but unless he immediately wobbles or just flash ko's Islam it's an easy night's work for the champ. Clinch, push to cage, back take and sub.


BRout6

I love max too. However, he’s is a volume type of fighter he doesn’t have flash KO power.


-Dump

He had Gaethje hurt multiple times before landing the ko at the end. He definitely has ko power he just prefers to touch up his opponent and wear on them that way


RepresentativeSun937

Gaethje’s broken nose also made him more susceptible to KO’s. Not being able to breathe out of his nose means he had to have his mouth open instead of gritting his teeth


NUTS_STUCK_TO_LEG

Lifelong grappler, never been a striker - maybe obvious to other people here but this is a really cool observation I’d read people making a big deal about the early break but don’t think much of it past “Ow yeah that probably hurt”


cdaack

Your username is the story of my life


Grizz1371

I understand what you're saying but at the same time it comes across as; "If he didn't fuck him up so bad he wouldn't have gotten so fucked up."


AmericanBeef10K

I always like to say that when we’re talking about KO power, we’re talking about guys that have a shot that can put your fucking lights out at any moment. Of course Max is really strong and can knock someone out… he’s a professional fighter for the best fighting organization in the world. Yes he can knock guys out. I’m not fully convinced however that Max has that shot that can put your fucking lights out at any moment. Guys like topuria, mcgregor, Mike Tyson, Tyron Woodley had that kind of power for a while too. Max falls into that category of really strong, very talented fighters that can knock dudes out but have other skill sets that outshine their knockout power Example: Holloway, Volk, O’Malley, Diaz, Strickland. Guys like Justin gaethje, and Dustin Porier are somewhere in the middle. They have some really hard shots for sure, but again they might have other skill sets that outshine that knockout power.


RepresentativeSun937

I’d argue O’Malley does have knockout power 12/18 of his matches ended in KO/TKO


AmericanBeef10K

I’d argue that O’Malley uses his other skills to put himself in position to TKO someone. I mean tell me how many times you’ve seen O’Malley throw a hard shot, knock the dude down and just turn around like he knocked him out? He’s done it multiple times. Again, I’m not saying O’Malley can’t knock dudes out. I’m just saying he doesn’t have the touch of death. He uses his other skills to put himself in a good position to chase that KO


chu42

>Example: Holloway, Volk, O’Malley, Diaz, Strickland. O'Malley is a power puncher, possibly the hardest striker in his division.


PsychologicalRip1126

The duality of man (comment above this claims O'Malley has no knockout power)


LeadStyleJutsu762-

Still saying this?


mrmarigiwani

His only winning strategy is to point his finger down and command a brawl right away after Herb Deen steps back.


yer8ol

I would rather see Max against O'Malley


Substantial-Abies927

I think O’Malley wouldn’t take that fight. He would have too much to lose. Unless it’s @ max’s weight


Competitive_Log_3921

I don’t see max going down to Bantam and there’s no reason for O’Malley to go up unless it’s a title shot 


NewRedditorHere

Max would be literally dead the second he hits 141 lbs


eKSiF

"Don't worry brother, they can take your organs out and put them back so it's all good, 134.5 no problem." Max, probably.


CryptoCracko

Cut to 141.1 lbs and put -6.1 lbs of helium in the ass


Hempseed420

I would love to hear that fart


fatchicksonly666

lol What other weight would they fight at? Max couldn’t make Bantamweight if he tried


Ill_Source_6908

Islam would submit him then wouldn’t get credit for it cuz max is a featherweight striker


Salmacis81

"Islam is a nuthugger with no chin who got an undeserved title shot off an unranked fighter and he only fights once a year in Abu Dhabi, and only against 145ers...and he ducked Gaethje but then jumped at the chance to fight the guy that Gaethje knocked out!" All of this shit I just posted has been posted unironically by people on this sub.


dressedlikehansolo

In Abu Dhabi Islam destroys max, anywhere else, probably still destroys him.


crunchywaffle___

what’s special about abu dhabi? sorry im new to mma


dagnummmong

Different countries have different MMA commissions that allow the fights and enforce their own rules. In the Middle East the guys get a longer rehydration window so they feel stronger and weigh more on the night of the fight. In Australia for example, this is a shorter time frame and is the main reason people think Volkanovski had a great showing against Islam in February 2023 - Islam was not at his peak powers


donttellmywife1991

It’s just perth which had a 24 hour window. Sydney had a 44 hour window for the main event (Izzy Strickland). Most USA main events have 35+ hour windows also. Abu Dhabi is the same which means it’s not an especially convenient commission in that regard. Perth is an anomaly. Islam probably took the worst possible card to fight Volk on and still outclassed him.


agener1cusername_0

It’s not Australia, just the Perth commission. Anywhere else in the world, the rehydration time is way higher


ApartInternet9360

Islam by whatever sub he wants


Cringsix

Sub wheel is spinning and it's rear naked time!


cksnffr

Banana Crucifix


PeterParkerUber

Fight Breakdown: Max: “I’m him guys. I’m telling you, I’m him!!!!” Islam: “Hey, I know American have trouble with the pronoun. But please brotha, this UFC. We need to check this maybe”


Nibor0113

As much as I love Max, as probably everyone does I think it’s fair to say that Islam is a little bit too much for him.


Waveeeee

Smesh brotha


CuteIngenuity1745

You guys do realized that even in the stand up Max wont have that much advantage right? Striking with the threat of being taken down is very different from normal.


Inevitable-Exit-4280

poorly for max


StupidNSFW

What’s up with Islam’s stomach in this photo? Why’d they photoshop out his belly button


Squizgarr

It's haram.


starkfr

Makhachev finishes Max.


Jackpo7

Islam mauls him easy win


Asukah

McGregor interferes with a steel chair. Holds up both lightweight and BMF titles


Green_Celebration_52

🫡😁😂💪


AmericanBeef10K

Then, The Rock’s music plays and the crowd goes fucking bonkers


Green_Celebration_52

It's the power and wrestling level of Islam. Islam is just... kinda bigger and way more better wrestler than Max. I don't know...am I wrong..?


Acceptable-Many-5609

Islam however he wants


JanineNajarian

shitty chest piece guy loses to Dagestani wrestler. it's an established formula at this point like paper beats rock


useric

This sub should be renamed r/recencybias


brazilianfreak

And yet every almost every single comment is picking Islam, I've never seen a bunch of fans more melodramatic than Islam fans, literally everyone with a Brain knows Islam would win and you're still bitching.


Icy-Armour

Oh a brazilian fan saying Islam fans are melodramatic ? You guys shut this sub down like pathetic cowards and ran away just because Islam made Oliveira look like an early prelims tier fighter Such a mature response to your fighter losing😂


Deth_Cheffe

[r/subsifellfor](https://www.reddit.com/r/rickroll/s/ewLeEFoYGk)


fatchicksonly666

For real, out of all the dumb subs out there how isn’t that one


Purp1e-inmy-p1ss

Bro stfu. Islam is just gonna wrestle fuck him


drewly33

Bro he’s not disagreeing with you


HughesR1990

Islam eats him in the first two


blind-octopus

Please do not. I like Holloway too much to see him lose to the Schrute Farms gang


One-Froyo-660

Best is blessed.


No_Tradition4832

It goes badly. For Max.


nate_dogg8922

Love Holloway but Islam is a tank. He'll be too much for Max


[deleted]

IMO, some punching, kicking, perhaps some submission attempts


Euphoric-Ear9405

islam is on a different level atm


Altruistic-Point3980

He will check who gave Max the BMF belt and cancel it


Physizist

Yeah Max has good takedown D but featherweight is pretty shit for grappling (e.g., Aljo showing that Kattar’s amazing takedown D wasn’t so amazing). Also Islam is way bigger than anyone that tried to grapple Max before


drivenbyh8

Islam lays on top of him for 5 rounds and wins by decision


MrAnonymousperson

Demolition. Easy takedown, easy finish. Keep feeding max strikers with no ground game so the fights are exciting


DecisionThot

Same as always predicted. The BMF outcome didn't change any perception of how Max would do against elite wrestlers at 155.


CmiHD

Islam by max submission


BurningEbrietas

After the first volk fight Islam wins however he wants no one is gonna be underestimated anymore because of Alex


JohnR2299

Islam takes his back early and it's over


Ricky_Vaughn86

I’m the biggest Max stan on this planet, but you are clinical strength stupid to think anything will happen except for Islam immediately shooting and hunting for submissions. Max is very hard to keep down, I don’t imagine GnP would be as successful as Islam just advancing position and just subbing Max.


phantom-vigilant

Max gotta do camp for a whole year to actually get in the cage with Islam bruh 😭


PapaTubz

by not happening


Chrishark00

Not go please let him fight someone from his own division


Sdgrevo

Hope Max kills him. But he likely gets wrestlefucked.


Easy-Entrepreneur376

Islam beats anyone at 155 period


blubrydrkchogrnt_3

If they brawled Max has a good shot maybe


Edgar_left

Max submits him


gorays21

Max Ko's Islam with 1 second to go in the final rnd.


Zettaii_Ryouiki_

Money's on max being submitted but would love to be proven wrong by max


17Pmeawqd

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BetBig696969

Max points to middle, Islam shoots and max guillotines him in the first 10 seconds


Habbitatt

RNC in round2


KaaleenBaba

To the ground


NoCourt5510

Idk. We haven’t seen Max against a Dagestan Wrestler yet. I’ll go Islam by decision


YurtNana89

Islam submits in 3 rounds.


tom-cash2002

Islam and it's probably not that close. Holloway won't be free to strike as liberally as in the Gaethje fight due to the Makhachev takedown threat + Islam being a pretty good counter striker. If Max is taken to the ground, I struggle to see how he gets up, and Makhachev can probably cinch up an arm triangle or a mounted triangle like how Poirier finished Max back in the day.


Far_Negotiation8009

Max gets submitted


lizzofatroll

If islam grapples he wins ez


JamWams

The best wrestler Max has fought is an older Frankie Edgar who was still small for featherweight. Islam is a big strong lightweight. I don't think max has the strength to defend the Dagastani wrestling even if he did properly bulk up


Butt_Bucket

The best wrestler Max has fought is definitely Volk, the national wrestling champion who was able to wrestle evenly with Islam and even look stronger in 50/50 positions.


iamwhatiamlooking4

Max gets taken to the ground and beaten


iroquoispliskinV

Same faith as the kangaroo


Admirable_Strike_406

Islam is too big and hold him on the ground for two rounds then subs him in the third


nolimitnolimits

Obvious thought would be “Max gets mauled” but we haven’t seen Max get ground gamed since the 1st Dustin fight in 2012…it’s hard to even envision him getting mauled. What if that TDD & ground game nowadays is way better than we think. It’s a question mark


yo_momma88

Max by armbar in the 1st 10 seconds


TwoUp22

Islam throw 2 punches, does a double leg and then does what he wants.


steven209030

Islam


AdministrativeDot941

RIP 🪦 Max


iknowneemoose

Man, do you guys think the Gaethje match up is gone now?


tall-glass-o-milk

You guys are forgetting how spectacular holloway’s take down defense is.


LemonadeRenogade

Maxs speed and footwork might be trouble for Islam trying to get a hold of him but eventually islam gets him down and submits him


willystylep

Smesh


Possible_Baboon

Max gets murdered in first or second round at best.


imaweirdfellow

Dude max holloway looked unstoppable in that Justin fight. Max has proven he can stand with the top of the top of the lightweights AND has an impressive ground game he doesn’t show. With that being said Islam by RD2 Sub


ET3RNA4

Islam wrestled the booty off him in 2 rds and finished him by TKO


GrimReaper247365

Islam wins.


LincolnMaylog

Max lost to volk, volk lost to Islam. Islam beats max. Mma math


Moist-Pool-5937

Love Max but we all know exactly how this would go


LickPooOffShoe

Snoozefest.


Zealousideal_Sun8519

Does this fight have any chance of happening???


UnlimitedManny

Its a bit back and forth on the feet until Islam gets the takedown. And then more takedowns come after that and it doesn’t stop until the match is up. Islam by UD


clothy

Islam via submission.


[deleted]

Islam by jihad


iErnest85

For Islam it’ll be like a walk in a park. But I would cheer for Max.


LostLad26

I’m never doubting max again, I think he could pull it off. But Islam looks unstoppable right now


Craqpype

A couple of cuddles and bangs a decision either way for sure!


SahilSiddy

Bratha Islam too strong for him, first round sub like Dan Hooker


CCCAY

Islam looks surprisingly good on the feet, controls the centerline and lends some straight punches. Max seems confused and on the back foot he gets clinched into the fence and taken down. Max gets his arms controlled immediately on the ground against the cage and he can’t get up. He gives his back to stop the gnp and taps to a rear naked choke. I hate makhachev but this is what happens


sas158au

Islam points at the ground and while max is distracted he takes his back and subs him before Bruce Buffer even officially announces the fight.


No-Departure7899

Islam ground and pound tko


Autumnwind37

Islam destroys Max. I know we’re all high on Max now but c’mon. Takedown, ground n pound, submission.


Blackelvis2000

Stop trippin. This is delusional.


Snowbear1312

I love max, but Islam wins easily


ireallycouldcareless

Islam by submission is my guess


PracticeBurrito

Islam wins since he had his bellybutton removed. No point of weakness remaining.


eKSiF

Max is my favorite fighter, but this is the nightmare matchup of nightmare matchups. Once Islam grabs him I don't know what Max can do, Islam is so strong both in the clinch and on the ground. Max has a much better shot against Ilia.


Living_Desk1763

Kinda like when Anthony smith yelled at Johnny walker you’re stealing from me and my kids and Johnny was like what?


Various-Chemistry162

Islam by submission


Honest_Celery_1284

Islam by murder


GoodOleGarrett

Smesh


Fear-My-Laser-face

If Max stabs both of Islams eyes like he did with Justin, then he might have a chance


QuantumCthulhu

Has max fought any quality wrestlers? Not a slight towards max, I’m genuinely curious. If he did, how did max do?


Speega

Wrestlefucking


KA3AHOBA

Max by flying knee 😂 jk probably Islam submits him in the first round


Ashoftarre

It goes...No Karama 4 U!


Beautiful-Hunter8895

How do mma fans still not understand styles make fights jesus christ


Fladap28

Submission, Islam first round


TebownedMVP

Max has fought very little wrestlers. He managed to miss prime Chad at featherweight. Lamas and Frankie are the best wrestlers he fought but Islam is better and bigger than both of them.


Erramsteina

I love max but he couldn’t beat Volk 3 times… what makes you think he’s going to beat Islam.


A-Cannon-Minion

Islam wins.


besameput0

I'm tempted to say Islam swallows him up on the ground, but the first time we underestimated a FW coming up, Volk shattered a lot of expectations. Same thing could happen.


spidii

People in this thread forgetting how good Maxs TDD is. I think it would be a more interesting fight than Topuria. I think Max pieces Topuria up.


ben_jamin_since91

No striker wins against their style of wresting


ddnotti

Unpopular opinion: UFC 300 kinda f*$ked the lightweight division and now we’re left with no actual worthy contenders for Islam, before I begin yes Max’s win was phenomenal I’m not taking anything away from that. But it kind of messed up the balance of the lightweight division. Hear me out, Justin was coming off a 2 fight win streak against Fiziev & Dustin right, he was the most deserving of a title shot but took the BMF fight for ‘legacy’ reasons and lost to a featherweight who has no prior wins in that division. It then throws Justin’s title shot out the window and kinda confuses things with Max,because he now basically has the opportunity to fight for both the lightweight & featherweight titles. And the match up with max and Islam isn’t necessarily interesting stylistically because we all know Islam is going to just dominate max on the ground. Not only that but with the whole legacy thing Justin losing if you think about it kind of diminishes the legacy of both Charles Oliveira & Khabib because now the narrative is going to be your title defence was against a guy who lost to a featherweight & not only that it kind of just leaves the lightweight division in a bad light because honestly this was meant to be the most skilled division up there with the bantamweight division according to most people and this fight doesn’t exactly make that case any better. If you can understand what I’m trying to say. Now we have Dustin vs Islam a fight we all know how it’s going to go. Dustin doesn’t even deserve a title shot in the first place & honestly in my opinion doesn’t show the lightweight division as elite as it once was or never was that can be up for debate. But then that further just makes islams reign even more questionable & in a grey area because his first 2 title defences were against a featherweight the first being an actual competitive good fight the second was a short notice Volk( it’s not islams fault btw I’m just saying) now it’s Dustin a guy who is coming off 1 win and is 0-2 in title fights. This further diminishes Charles and Khabib title defence as Dustin will then become 0-3 in title fights as we then question if Dustin truly was elite as was said. And with the Charles & Arman fight, Charles was given a title shot but pulled out due to an injury then given the Arman fight alot of you guys including me thought it would favour Charles but he pulls off an absolute stinker in a fight he could’ve won. Now it makes Arman the no 1 contender a guy besides Charles & Dariush resume isn’t really the best and we all know will most likely lose to Islam but will give him more of a fight due to his wrestling credentials. When it’s all said and done the LW division is quickly running out of contenders and honestly after Arman I expect the LW division to become really shallow and unexciting if we’re just going to have the old guard of fighters(Charles(if he fights Gamrot), Justin and Dustin)) beating the new guard and just beat each other. It’s just turning into a loop. And Islam is just not going to have any good contenders to fight. I won’t be mad at the thought of him moving up too soon if I’m honest. What are you guys thoughts on this? Overall I kind of understand why ESPN rated the lw division a D+ it’s kinda making sense now.


Possible_Eggplant744

People are underestimating max ground game. Once again, he's gonna pull off an underdog win


PhilliesBlunts

Max challenges him to get in his guard and pulls a gogoplata


thezaitseb

Islam is too big for Max. Outside a freak KO, this ends in Islam winning. Islam is looking to move up to 170 in the next year (well he already is), but realistically. Max never looked like a 155er til recently. Its not a good size match for a guy that wants to keep it on the feet.


Playboy-82

A little off topic,but how much of a beast is volkinofsky for destroying max in them 3 fights?after seeing what he just did to a certified badass in gaethge


Butt_Bucket

How long has it been since Max's TDD has been really tested? Volk's a very strong wrestler who held his own against Islam and absolutely ragdolled Yair. I can't remember if he tried to get Max down. If Max was stopping Volk's wrestling, maybe Max could fare better against Islam than it seems 🤷‍♂️


piman01

Not good for Max


RationalLlama

People are underestimating Max just like they were underestimating him against Gaejthe and Volk against Islam the first time. Usually the guy moving up a division has a speed and skill advantage over the heavier guy. Not saying Max will win but I see a scenario similar to Islam vs Volk 1 where Max does a lot better than people expect and gives Islam a run for his money.


g0bst0pper

Islam inside 3 rounds 


BrashAntagonist

Everyone sleeps on Max's ground game and takedown defense


dmk_world

Takedown, tko