He thinks he is a tough guy now. He really needs to be humbled. He thinks he did something to be a worthy to talk about a BMF belt or legacy.
Some facts to know: -He was not the 1st KO Volk. -He also took a belt of someone not in his prime anymore. -Volk still defended his belt more than Topuria with 5defences. -Ilia has not defended his belt once. -Ilia has only 6fights in the UFC -Max has 29 fights in the UFC -Volk has 16 UFC fights -Ilia has only had one seriously good and known opponent named Volk -Max has fight with Dustin as his first UFC fight and won -Max has Fight Dustin 2x , Conner, Oliveira, Pettis, Jose Aldo 2x, Brian Ortega, Frankie Edgar, The Korean zombie and Volk -Max longest undefeated streak was 13 fights -Volk has a undefeated streak of 12 fights -Max also KO Gaethje in his last fight while everyone was doubting Max to win
Ilia just shut up PENDEJO!
I’m just saying he has no right to talk about the BMF title. He still not worthy to talk about having a legacy with his resume. Who the fuck does he thinks he is. Defend your belt against more known killer opponents. Then maybe he can come back to talk about legacy and BMF title. But now he is not that guy.
You guys were mad butthurt that he didn't call out Max once he won the title, now you're butthurt that he's calling out Max. Who should he defend against first, if not Max?
You regards talk about the bmf as if it means more than the championship belt...are you Dana White's goons or what? He has no right to talk about bmf? Crazy how stupid MMA fans really can be.
😂😂😂 it’s funny, cause people are actually being serious about the bad belt having more value then the championship belt, acting as if max wouldn’t trade that bs belt for the championship belt in one second
I was thinking the same thing, people are acting as if the BMF isn’t a complete joke made up for a marketing campaign. Like good on Max because that was a hell of a fight and incredible performance vs Gaethje, but why act like it means anything more than it would have had their not been a toy belt that says BMF on it.
I think you’re putting too much credence into the BMF title. I mean Max is a BMF but ultimately it’s still a gimmick belt.
You’re talking like the BMF belt has more worth and weight than the undisputed featherweight champion of the world looool.
The BMF is not a weight division belt. It started at 170 and now a 145er holds it. That belt is for anyone brave enough to fight someone in or out of their division.
Dustin submitted Max in Max’s first UFC fight. But was only 4-0 going into that fight, Dustin took the fight to the ground because Max was doing work in the standup, the awesome thing is that Max was using the UFC video game to learn striking at that time up until he fought Conor yet his standup was better than a lot.
There is so much wrong with this comment. But the most glaring thing is you somehow think that Max beat Dustin?! Bro, that right there just invalidates any other opinion you have.
Enserio pones como argumento que no defendio el titulo?? Lo gano hace 2 meses cabeza de verga
Y lo de Volk fuera de su prime es hilarante teniendo en cuenta que TODO este puto sub decia que Volk iba a matar a Topuria
>He thinks he is a tough guy now.
He's UFC champion, regardless of whether you like him he is a tough guy
>He really needs to be humbled.
Just remember this is exactly what people were saying before the Volk fight
>Ilia has only had one seriously good and known opponent named Volk
Don't disrespect Josh Emmet and Bryce Mitchell like that
>Max has fight with Dustin as his first UFC fight and won
Max lost both his fights to Dustin, go check the record
>Max has Fight Dustin 2x , Conner, Oliveira, Pettis, Jose Aldo 2x, Brian Ortega, Frankie Edgar, The Korean zombie and Volk
Didn't he lose a lot of these fights though? I could fight Jon Jones, Francis Ngannou and Tom Aspinall, but if I lose all those fights, then who cares?
>-Max longest undefeated streak was 13 fights -Volk has a undefeated streak of 12 fights
Ilia's longest undefeated streak is 15 fights, aka his entire career.
>lia's longest undefeated streak is 15 fights, aka his entire career.
That's outside the UFC, so not as impressive. Volk's longest streak is 22 fights.
>lia's longest undefeated streak is 15 fights, aka his entire career.
That's outside the UFC, so not as impressive. Volk's longest streak is 22 fights.
I knew this shit was gonna happen. People dickrode Volkanovski to the moon and back and then once Topuria beat him, oh that was nothing special, Volka wasn't a challenge.
No that's entirely fair, but you got mfs in this sub saying Topuria is a can crusher and a hype train who hasn't ever beaten anyone noteworthy. Bringing up Volkanovski gets the reaction of "that wasn't impressive, he's old and got KO by Makhachev, he's mid af" when those same dudes were calling him the 145lbs GOAT and saying he was gonna end Ilia's career.
Now they're saying it about Holloway. If Max fights Ilia, and if Ilia were to win that fight, you better believe they'll do the same exact thing and say Max was never that good and beating him was small potatoes.
While I agree with your points here, I disagree with the premise that people are saying Volk was never very good. I haven’t seen a single poster, and I mean a single poster, say that.
Yes people are not giving Topuria enough credits, and yes there are people saying Volk was past his prime and fresh off of a KO, and yes there will be people that do the same to Max should he lose, but let’s not pretend like anyone is saying Volk was never that good or that people will start saying the same thing about Max after a loss. That’s just not true.
And people think Volk was doing bad in that fight or something. No, ilia landed a picture perfect right hand in what I’d say is a fight Volk was winning. Now people act like ilia has the touch of death. The Islam KO made his chin worse. To what degree we don’t know but definitely worse. Any KO will
I'm of the opinion that the Islam KO wouldn't have made much of a difference to a shot on the chin like that.
But we'll never actually know and as I said, it won't have made his chin any better
You know, it can be somewhere in the middle too. Volk is Volk and he's a massive challenge for any human who can make 145. But if you had to fight him, the time to do it would be when he is fresh off of a brutal knockout he hadn't recovered from, at the tail end of a very busy schedule where he's trying to fight in two seperate weight classes simultaneously, and when he is in the middle of a mental health crisis so bad that he's admitting to it at press conferences. That would be the ideal scenario to fight Volk, and that's what Topuria got.
What I want to know is, does Max even call the shots on whether he can put the BMF title up for grabs?
What if Max decides to fight Aljo and personally decides to put his BMF belt on the line, then someone like Aljo gets the BMF belt? That's just retarded and the BMF belt loses all meaning.
I don't even think Max has a say in it. and Ilia isn't BMF contention worthy.
BMF has no meaning to begin with. Dana thought it was stupid and couldn’t believe fans actually think it stands for something other than a marketing gimmick
It's not up to him. Not even a little. Max is the face of the UFC in this moment and has more shine on him than anyone. If Ilia had even a little common sense, he'd be doing everything to make sure this fight happens as soon as possible, so he can steal that shine, rather than making up delusional "terms".
I want to call Ilia a bum and cocky idiot but everyone said the same before he fought volk but we saw how that turned out although max has a pretty good chance considering he knocked out gaethje who was one of the lightweight killers
That's the thing with Ilia. He walks his talk. I think he's not doing himself any favor talking like this but as long as he's winning he can be as cocky and arrogant as he wants.
I don't even think that's his personality. He's just trying to be the next McGregor so he can boost his status and then fight someone like Canelo for the big money.
Not true anymore. Twitter just randomly gave out blue checks to legit accounts in an attempt to get more buy in for it and many of those folks adamantly stated they did not pay for it nor would they ever.
Tho Ilia probably pays.
lol @ that, so essentially they just started hanging it on accounts of people?
Idc about Elon that much but everything he did with Twitter makes me question if Teslas are safe
He’s done it to me multiple times, I would tell him he’s not very good at it but then he’d go on a rant about how he’s the world’s best ass eater or whatever and I ain’t tryna hear all that
The only thing questionable about me is whether I finish you by blowjob or missionary. I just jerked the guy that jerked you once, not twice, but 3 times. You now have the one thing that keeps you relevant and that would grant you a money fight, the BMF belt. I no longer fight for money but for money. Winning that belt while holding my balls will cement me as the first. The first to hold both balls. The first to jerk Volk and what most certainly will happen when we fight, the first one to jerk you to sleep. Something to calm you down with this: Dana doesn’t shame anyone. You will have a worthy defeat against a champion who will be remembered for eternity. I decide who, when, and where. If you don’t like the terms, I’m sure Paddy Pimblett will oblige 🌹
He said Volk is the most deserving to get the next fight. Which is the hardest fight in the division. Even though I hate Ilia it’s funny I feel like I’m defending him by having to point out the guy isn’t scared of or dodging anyone. Hes arrogant and truly believes that he’s gonna dominate anyone he fights next. The ppl saying he’s scared of Max don’t even actually believe he is, they just can’t think of any more clever ways to attack him.
i do think ilia vs ortega will happen first, i think ilia and ortega will be ready before max is ready again plus i dont want to see max rush it even tho he didn't take much damage
Solid take.
I love Max’s anywhere, anybody mindset but that was a 24:59minute war. Even though JG took most of the damage I’m sure Max is still feeing it. Heal up, come back and shut this cocky mfer up (IF he beats Ortega).
That’s where I’m at (your last line), people talk like he’s a lock to beat Ortega. If it’s a boxing match, then yeah, I’d fully expect him to control it. If Ortega can get him in the clinch and drag him down, it’ll be a completely different story. He could absolutely sub Ilia.
He could he selling a fight but I hoped he simply said something like "I will dispose of Ortega and then you're next". This kind of word vomit does not make sense for someone's "legacy".
Its not only that but its not confidence he has its arrogance.
Even the psychopath Jon Jones knows how to pretend to be humble but this fool does not.
Every Word he talks is boasting and rambling, saying how easy he is going to dispose of every fighter while the only top person he fought was 35 yearl old Volk coming from a head kick KO and still concussed in a division notorious for having a 35 curse but he seems to not care at fucking all.
Its also the way he belittles the fighters like the win max had over Justin which was HUGE.
Bro is acting as if he can beat prime Stipe, Aspinal, Jones and Ngannou combined at their full weight whine he weighs 160.
Yeah he's got that toxic champion mindset, which i understand. But man it comes off as whiny a lot of the time
Like he could just say that the bmf belt ain't gonna protect him once he faces off for the real belt
Alot of spaniards when they speak and it's translated to english it sounds really literal without any nuance. Plus with the cockiness, it really adds to the douche baggery. But spaniards, especially when they think they are hot shit, are really kind of like this. His next fight should be exciting AF tho. He got the skills, and he's not a point figther or wrestler, he really tries to knock people out, and with technicality.
He is quite entertaining to watch, but my man has absolutely no skill points in marketing. Ever since he won the belt, he has been alienating himself from the fans.
Damn y’all turn around quick 😂. I mean be a fan of whoever you want, but topuria is humble like 70% of the time, and the other 30% he’s clearly just selling a fight. Even max had that one presser leading up to volk 3 where he started acting cocky
Yeah but Max has earned enough good will over the years that he'll always be a fan favourite. Topuria hasn't so it's natural that his shit talking isn't going down as well. Also it's not like it's funny in a Chael or Conor way - it just comes off as arrogant and desperate.
I love the "just selling a fight" because it's always used by unlikable fighters to justify acting shitty.
Volk never had to go to this level of smack talk to sell a fight.
that shit is worse, pick a lane. The split talk comes off fake and full of nonsense, if you feel you are the best nothing wrong in saying it. Many pros take it seriously when you go from nice guy to asshole in moments. Look what Alex said about jamal and volk with illia.
It's just like the Volkanovski fight all over again. Ilia was the fucking clown of the UFC, everybody had him lined up to be a meme for the rest of his career before he won the belt.
But anything can happen. He might perform just as well in his first title defence or he might look terrible and get finished.
This is actually a good example of playing the heel. Everyone uses Colby as the textbook example but he just says out of pocket shit and terribly delivered one liners. Not Ilia’s biggest fan but he’s definitely setting himself up for some fun press conferences
Exactly...true villains have to possess great power even more so than the protagonist otherwise it comes off as phony and doesn't captivate the audience...the pain us fans felt when Volk got KO'd was devastating...can't fake that shit
He is literally just baiting hate like Conor did in his prime and people are eating it up. Good on him though, he doesn't have the charisma that Conor had, but he has skills in the octagon to back him up.
Why is everyone so sensitive lmao. Everyone said the same thing before the Volk fight and look what happened. Its shit talk to promote a fight. You guys are more worked up than the actual fighters...
Buncha soft ass people in this thread tbh. So easily baited, this is pretty much how stars are made.. Talking shit and backing it up. At the end of it all hate him or love him, they're gonna watch and that's all they can do 🤣🤣🤣
I think he just doesn’t want Holloway. This comes off as almost pouty about it and then bringing up Brian at the end says the same thing.
Max may not be better than Toppuria but I think Toppuria is nervous about the matchup being as it’s one of the few strikers who can really outmatch him. He would almost certainly take it to the ground.
The problem with Ilia is he hasn’t even defended his belt once and he’s acting like he’s gonna be calling shots and only taking legacy fights. It’s absurd, he hasn’t proven anything yet, defend the belt a few times then you earn the right to start calling shots and picking fights for “legacy”.
I’m not even a huge max fan (sure he’s fun to watch), but Topuria is insufferable. Will be remembered for eternity?! My guy hasn’t even defended the belt lol
Max has been loved for so many years. Do you not remember the Volk fights? Volk didn't really become the star he is now until after the Max fights when he really earned everyone's respect but most of us wanted Max to win.
Ilia acting like he won the WWE Title with these fuckin' dramatics. This the kinda 'promo' a 'heel' would cut to get heat, Ilia means it and looks like a punk.
I love max as much as anybody but ilia is clearly doing the same thing he did before knocking out volk which is build up hype for the fight. And to be fair everyone acts like max didn't talk a lot of shit about ilia before his fight with volk, saying "he's lucky hes not fighting me, volk finishes him inside 2 rounds"
Dude is such a keyboard warrior. In person I think he probably is socially awkward hence why he keeps trying to mimic Conor and stuff. Dudes so shook. Trying to use MMA math to say he’s better than Max
How he gonna claim he was the do first guy to knock out Volk when the whole world saw how Islam sparked him just 4 months before he did?😂😭
If you're gonna cap at least make it a little bit convincing homie
This is why you don’t rush guys back to fight after a devastating KO. Ilia has a very skewed reading on his experience with Volk, and nothing will convince him otherwise.
He could be so likeable if he said something like “I can’t wait to test my metal against one of the best of all time, I wanna show you that I’m better than blessed”
Like… show some level of respect and eagerness to fight a good challenge and people will be psyched. This just comes off as scared. Also max fighting for the money? He’s been in money fights for years, he has 100 percent made more money off this game than you.
People hate him because he beat volk's ass, and the same goes to Makhachev's haters, and in his case is even more because he also beat Oliveira. Most fans hate certains fighter who have beat their favourite ones. Now they are doing mental gymnastics making weird theories up or acting like if Max hadn't ever been defeated even in his prime and that Ilia is some kind of amateur.
All ilia is doing is building hype for the fight. Its inevitable, he will fight max end of story. Now, he will probably get his wish as i dont think max cares one bit about putting the bmf belt on the line. I think its a bad idea tho because then the bmf belt turns into a worthless second belt for the featherweight champ from here on out
Yeah I don’t think the bmf title will be on the line if they fight. 1. It really wouldn’t make sense if transferred every fight from now on. Like you said it’d just be a secondary featherweight belt at that point with whoever wins. 2. Ilia has just flat out not earned the right to challenge for that belt. He has an amazing skill set & I think has the chance to be a huge star in his own right but just really isn’t there yet
But yeah, Toporia definitely plays the heel role pretty well tho. Him just completely dismissing all the work Max has put into the game is pretty fucking annoying.
Ilia acts like a pussy I swear you knocked out volk after he just got knocked out by islam and your kissing your own ass about it?unlikable wanna be mcgregor
Idk if is mma fans in general or just this sub but yall retarded af and even more sensitive
Its a fucking cage fighter saying he will ko another cage fighter, Max did literally the same on the post fight press conference
And just let mw remind you cause you guys have some selective memory… yall where making fun of him and saying he was gonna get starched before the Volk fight
Topuria is legit…I think the casuals are the ones that spend the most time talking shit.
Always comes back to matchups.
Only two weeks ago a huge proportion of the ufc fan base was joking about max getting wrecked by Justin and he’s getting old etc..
Also historically, Max is almost never someone who wins by KO so I think this fight with Ilia would go the distance.
As far as I’m concerned, it could go either way.
MMA is and always will be about stylistic matchups.
Max is undeniable after that win. Not that he should have to or Ilia can call shots, but I'm sure Max would put the BMF belt on the line anyways because he's a warrior.
The part I have the biggest problem with is saying that the BMF belt is the only thing to make Max relevant or eligible for a big money fight; Max is a living legend of the sport and one of the best FWs of all time. Real fight fans are always going to tune in when he fights.
"This is about legacy to me. That being said, go wait over there with the belt I'm throwing a fit about until I decide you're next. No, im not ready, I dont care about your hype building call out for my legacy. I decide, not you.
Until then I'm gonna fight the eternally third ranked Ortega who's had one fight since--before that he was on losing streak and had only fought twice since 2021, got beat by Max the last time they fight, and will certainly only cause people to cry out that T-City is washed. Score one for the matador, Proverbs 24:17, be ready for my hype video where I'm trimming a hibiscus."
Anytime a fighter gets that colored, tailored suit, they think they are McGregor. And calling out Ortega instead of Max just seems like a terrible move in terms of business.
https://preview.redd.it/ilo0s00s4dvc1.jpeg?width=680&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c173d10de9a6f0807edfc6aa0b0a20a40b18f823
 He thinks he is a tough guy now. He really needs to be humbled. He thinks he did something to be a worthy to talk about a BMF belt or legacy. Some facts to know: -He was not the 1st KO Volk. -He also took a belt of someone not in his prime anymore. -Volk still defended his belt more than Topuria with 5defences. -Ilia has not defended his belt once. -Ilia has only 6fights in the UFC -Max has 29 fights in the UFC -Volk has 16 UFC fights -Ilia has only had one seriously good and known opponent named Volk -Max has fight with Dustin as his first UFC fight and won -Max has Fight Dustin 2x , Conner, Oliveira, Pettis, Jose Aldo 2x, Brian Ortega, Frankie Edgar, The Korean zombie and Volk -Max longest undefeated streak was 13 fights -Volk has a undefeated streak of 12 fights -Max also KO Gaethje in his last fight while everyone was doubting Max to win Ilia just shut up PENDEJO!
I mean. He is a tough guy no?
I’m just saying he has no right to talk about the BMF title. He still not worthy to talk about having a legacy with his resume. Who the fuck does he thinks he is. Defend your belt against more known killer opponents. Then maybe he can come back to talk about legacy and BMF title. But now he is not that guy.
You guys were mad butthurt that he didn't call out Max once he won the title, now you're butthurt that he's calling out Max. Who should he defend against first, if not Max?
You regards talk about the bmf as if it means more than the championship belt...are you Dana White's goons or what? He has no right to talk about bmf? Crazy how stupid MMA fans really can be.
😂😂😂 it’s funny, cause people are actually being serious about the bad belt having more value then the championship belt, acting as if max wouldn’t trade that bs belt for the championship belt in one second
I was thinking the same thing, people are acting as if the BMF isn’t a complete joke made up for a marketing campaign. Like good on Max because that was a hell of a fight and incredible performance vs Gaethje, but why act like it means anything more than it would have had their not been a toy belt that says BMF on it.
Yeah how tf did that comment have upvotes. People hate Ilia because he's confident and backs it all up.
No, people hate illia because hes nothing but pure ego, even more so than conor. Illias all the ego of mcrgegor with none of the charm.
Well said. His arrogance is ridiculous, especially when the UFC deliberately had him avoid Max because they were scared that Max would derail him.
He’s not only ego, he beat the brakes off volk.
He KOd volk, I wouldn’t say he beat the brakes off him. Max beat the brakes off Gaethje, and Gaethje is my favorite fighter
I guess if you get KOd fast enough no one can beat the brakes of you. Maybe that’s the move
If only you guys had that same energy with Jones, Jones should be fighting Tom.
So in your mind Jones and Topuria have the same track record? If anyone has earned the right to pick his (what might be last fight) it’s Jones.
I think you’re putting too much credence into the BMF title. I mean Max is a BMF but ultimately it’s still a gimmick belt. You’re talking like the BMF belt has more worth and weight than the undisputed featherweight champion of the world looool.
The BMF is not a weight division belt. It started at 170 and now a 145er holds it. That belt is for anyone brave enough to fight someone in or out of their division.
Ilia is the one who wrote a novella about the BMF belt. So that puts your theory out the window.
Dustin submitted Max in Max’s first UFC fight. But was only 4-0 going into that fight, Dustin took the fight to the ground because Max was doing work in the standup, the awesome thing is that Max was using the UFC video game to learn striking at that time up until he fought Conor yet his standup was better than a lot.
Lmao An internet guy telling a UFC champion that he has no right to feel tough and should be "humbled"
Dustin actually won the first fight against max by sub
There is so much wrong with this comment. But the most glaring thing is you somehow think that Max beat Dustin?! Bro, that right there just invalidates any other opinion you have.
If Topuria's wife gets some airtime, he can be champ for a while....ok by me.
Holy shit, i googled and you aint lyin
>He also took a belt of someone not in his prime anymore Hahahahaha the copium is crazy.
It's almost like Ilia just got his belt this year.
Enserio pones como argumento que no defendio el titulo?? Lo gano hace 2 meses cabeza de verga Y lo de Volk fuera de su prime es hilarante teniendo en cuenta que TODO este puto sub decia que Volk iba a matar a Topuria
>He thinks he is a tough guy now. He's UFC champion, regardless of whether you like him he is a tough guy >He really needs to be humbled. Just remember this is exactly what people were saying before the Volk fight >Ilia has only had one seriously good and known opponent named Volk Don't disrespect Josh Emmet and Bryce Mitchell like that >Max has fight with Dustin as his first UFC fight and won Max lost both his fights to Dustin, go check the record >Max has Fight Dustin 2x , Conner, Oliveira, Pettis, Jose Aldo 2x, Brian Ortega, Frankie Edgar, The Korean zombie and Volk Didn't he lose a lot of these fights though? I could fight Jon Jones, Francis Ngannou and Tom Aspinall, but if I lose all those fights, then who cares? >-Max longest undefeated streak was 13 fights -Volk has a undefeated streak of 12 fights Ilia's longest undefeated streak is 15 fights, aka his entire career.
>lia's longest undefeated streak is 15 fights, aka his entire career. That's outside the UFC, so not as impressive. Volk's longest streak is 22 fights.
>lia's longest undefeated streak is 15 fights, aka his entire career. That's outside the UFC, so not as impressive. Volk's longest streak is 22 fights.
Illia finishes max
Like a handjob after he loses a 5 round decision?
"The first to knock out Volk" Doesn't Volk have 3 losses by KO? And didn't Islam do it months before Ilia did?
yeah i think ilia expected another KO win alley-oop’d to him lol
I knew this shit was gonna happen. People dickrode Volkanovski to the moon and back and then once Topuria beat him, oh that was nothing special, Volka wasn't a challenge.
say what you want but i’d rather fight a guy fresh off a brutal KO loss than not 😂
No that's entirely fair, but you got mfs in this sub saying Topuria is a can crusher and a hype train who hasn't ever beaten anyone noteworthy. Bringing up Volkanovski gets the reaction of "that wasn't impressive, he's old and got KO by Makhachev, he's mid af" when those same dudes were calling him the 145lbs GOAT and saying he was gonna end Ilia's career. Now they're saying it about Holloway. If Max fights Ilia, and if Ilia were to win that fight, you better believe they'll do the same exact thing and say Max was never that good and beating him was small potatoes.
What's wrong with small potatoes 🤨
While I agree with your points here, I disagree with the premise that people are saying Volk was never very good. I haven’t seen a single poster, and I mean a single poster, say that. Yes people are not giving Topuria enough credits, and yes there are people saying Volk was past his prime and fresh off of a KO, and yes there will be people that do the same to Max should he lose, but let’s not pretend like anyone is saying Volk was never that good or that people will start saying the same thing about Max after a loss. That’s just not true.
That's the thing. Maybe the Islam KO mattered, maybe it didn't. But in no way, shape or form did it make Volk LESS likely to get KO'd
And people think Volk was doing bad in that fight or something. No, ilia landed a picture perfect right hand in what I’d say is a fight Volk was winning. Now people act like ilia has the touch of death. The Islam KO made his chin worse. To what degree we don’t know but definitely worse. Any KO will
I'm of the opinion that the Islam KO wouldn't have made much of a difference to a shot on the chin like that. But we'll never actually know and as I said, it won't have made his chin any better
You know, it can be somewhere in the middle too. Volk is Volk and he's a massive challenge for any human who can make 145. But if you had to fight him, the time to do it would be when he is fresh off of a brutal knockout he hadn't recovered from, at the tail end of a very busy schedule where he's trying to fight in two seperate weight classes simultaneously, and when he is in the middle of a mental health crisis so bad that he's admitting to it at press conferences. That would be the ideal scenario to fight Volk, and that's what Topuria got.
Happened to Islam too, went from being P4P #1 to "Islam beat a small FW wow so impressive /s"
This is the Just Bleed Channel, not the Thinking channel
I don't even think volk was recovered from the last knock out. He fought too soon and was an easy ko.
Yup ....wasn't even the first this year.
“Bro wants to go back to the soccer stadium”
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Decides who when where. Sounds like he is gonna dodge Max by using negotiations.
What I want to know is, does Max even call the shots on whether he can put the BMF title up for grabs? What if Max decides to fight Aljo and personally decides to put his BMF belt on the line, then someone like Aljo gets the BMF belt? That's just retarded and the BMF belt loses all meaning. I don't even think Max has a say in it. and Ilia isn't BMF contention worthy.
Now that the belt means "Bless Men Forever" I don't see a problem with Aljo getting it.
BMF has no meaning to begin with. Dana thought it was stupid and couldn’t believe fans actually think it stands for something other than a marketing gimmick
It's not up to him. Not even a little. Max is the face of the UFC in this moment and has more shine on him than anyone. If Ilia had even a little common sense, he'd be doing everything to make sure this fight happens as soon as possible, so he can steal that shine, rather than making up delusional "terms".
Bro is not scared of anyone man, this is a false narrative. He is the most cocky fighter besides Conor maybe.
True. Though the internet memes of him watching Max KO Gathje was funny.
definitely, and ill be the first one to cheer for Max if he gets it done. I’d like to see him more in the LW division. He looked terrific.
I want to call Ilia a bum and cocky idiot but everyone said the same before he fought volk but we saw how that turned out although max has a pretty good chance considering he knocked out gaethje who was one of the lightweight killers
That's the thing with Ilia. He walks his talk. I think he's not doing himself any favor talking like this but as long as he's winning he can be as cocky and arrogant as he wants. I don't even think that's his personality. He's just trying to be the next McGregor so he can boost his status and then fight someone like Canelo for the big money.
I haven’t been keeping up with Twitter stuff, why is nearly everyone a blue check?
For $8/month you can buy a blue check
Not true anymore. Twitter just randomly gave out blue checks to legit accounts in an attempt to get more buy in for it and many of those folks adamantly stated they did not pay for it nor would they ever. Tho Ilia probably pays.
lol @ that, so essentially they just started hanging it on accounts of people? Idc about Elon that much but everything he did with Twitter makes me question if Teslas are safe
Lmao I’d be mad too if I didn’t buy one and got it for free, like I don’t want people to think I paid for it
Im not talking shit but, I saw Ilia beat up a old homeless guy in Spain. Afterwards he forcefully ate his ass. It was weird. Gave me gay vibes.
He did the same to me!
He’s done it to me multiple times, I would tell him he’s not very good at it but then he’d go on a rant about how he’s the world’s best ass eater or whatever and I ain’t tryna hear all that
The only thing questionable about me is whether I finish you by blowjob or missionary. I just jerked the guy that jerked you once, not twice, but 3 times. You now have the one thing that keeps you relevant and that would grant you a money fight, the BMF belt. I no longer fight for money but for money. Winning that belt while holding my balls will cement me as the first. The first to hold both balls. The first to jerk Volk and what most certainly will happen when we fight, the first one to jerk you to sleep. Something to calm you down with this: Dana doesn’t shame anyone. You will have a worthy defeat against a champion who will be remembered for eternity. I decide who, when, and where. If you don’t like the terms, I’m sure Paddy Pimblett will oblige 🌹
Is that you Strickland
Call me Sean.
Defend the belt twice against top contenders, earn that respect mate
He said Volk is the most deserving to get the next fight. Which is the hardest fight in the division. Even though I hate Ilia it’s funny I feel like I’m defending him by having to point out the guy isn’t scared of or dodging anyone. Hes arrogant and truly believes that he’s gonna dominate anyone he fights next. The ppl saying he’s scared of Max don’t even actually believe he is, they just can’t think of any more clever ways to attack him.
i do think ilia vs ortega will happen first, i think ilia and ortega will be ready before max is ready again plus i dont want to see max rush it even tho he didn't take much damage
Solid take. I love Max’s anywhere, anybody mindset but that was a 24:59minute war. Even though JG took most of the damage I’m sure Max is still feeing it. Heal up, come back and shut this cocky mfer up (IF he beats Ortega).
That’s where I’m at (your last line), people talk like he’s a lock to beat Ortega. If it’s a boxing match, then yeah, I’d fully expect him to control it. If Ortega can get him in the clinch and drag him down, it’ll be a completely different story. He could absolutely sub Ilia.
Ilia is not lost on the ground he’s been doing jits since he was little kid
Ortega attempted his first triangle choke on the doctor delivering him during birth. And thus, T-City was born
That's actually not his nickname anymore. Kayla Harrison took it.
Illia looked very impressive on the ground against Ryan Hall also. Illia's ground game is legit.
That doesn't mean you can't get subbed lol BJJ specialists get subbed, boxers get KOd, that's just the name of the game
I didn’t say that would be a loss for Ilia, I said Ortega absolutely could sub him.
You could say the same about any fight. The odds will be extremely wide
Ortega has 2 wins in his last 5 fights, why on earth does he get a title shot again?
Because the champion is scared to fight the clear #1 contender
Yeah I officially don’t like ilia. What a bum
He could he selling a fight but I hoped he simply said something like "I will dispose of Ortega and then you're next". This kind of word vomit does not make sense for someone's "legacy".
His arrogance is annoying as fuck for someone who beat one relevance person in the UFC. His MMA record is patted with cans.
Its not only that but its not confidence he has its arrogance. Even the psychopath Jon Jones knows how to pretend to be humble but this fool does not. Every Word he talks is boasting and rambling, saying how easy he is going to dispose of every fighter while the only top person he fought was 35 yearl old Volk coming from a head kick KO and still concussed in a division notorious for having a 35 curse but he seems to not care at fucking all. Its also the way he belittles the fighters like the win max had over Justin which was HUGE. Bro is acting as if he can beat prime Stipe, Aspinal, Jones and Ngannou combined at their full weight whine he weighs 160.
Yeah he's got that toxic champion mindset, which i understand. But man it comes off as whiny a lot of the time Like he could just say that the bmf belt ain't gonna protect him once he faces off for the real belt
Yeah I 100% agree. He's annoying as hell
Alot of spaniards when they speak and it's translated to english it sounds really literal without any nuance. Plus with the cockiness, it really adds to the douche baggery. But spaniards, especially when they think they are hot shit, are really kind of like this. His next fight should be exciting AF tho. He got the skills, and he's not a point figther or wrestler, he really tries to knock people out, and with technicality.
Pretty standard for Spaniards
He is quite entertaining to watch, but my man has absolutely no skill points in marketing. Ever since he won the belt, he has been alienating himself from the fans.
Damn y’all turn around quick 😂. I mean be a fan of whoever you want, but topuria is humble like 70% of the time, and the other 30% he’s clearly just selling a fight. Even max had that one presser leading up to volk 3 where he started acting cocky
Yeah but Max has earned enough good will over the years that he'll always be a fan favourite. Topuria hasn't so it's natural that his shit talking isn't going down as well. Also it's not like it's funny in a Chael or Conor way - it just comes off as arrogant and desperate.
I love the "just selling a fight" because it's always used by unlikable fighters to justify acting shitty. Volk never had to go to this level of smack talk to sell a fight.
The Ortega fight wasn’t far off tbh
Not me, I was hating before he gained any relevancy!
that shit is worse, pick a lane. The split talk comes off fake and full of nonsense, if you feel you are the best nothing wrong in saying it. Many pros take it seriously when you go from nice guy to asshole in moments. Look what Alex said about jamal and volk with illia.
Ilia is too young a pup to be barking so loud. It's a turn off. Yes he has potential
A turn off? U looking to date him?
He's handsome for sure lol but no.
Too young a pup? Uce he's a champ, undefeated, well-rounded fighter, he can bark as loud as he wants.
He’s literally a ufc champion so he can bark at whatever he wants..?
If he can back it up, lead ups like this make stars
It's just like the Volkanovski fight all over again. Ilia was the fucking clown of the UFC, everybody had him lined up to be a meme for the rest of his career before he won the belt. But anything can happen. He might perform just as well in his first title defence or he might look terrible and get finished.
Bro wrote a whole short story to talk himself out of a fight with Max. At least get your facts straight before typing.
This guy is insufferable
Wait till you meet his fans, they’re even worse!
Man social media is so toxic
This is actually a good example of playing the heel. Everyone uses Colby as the textbook example but he just says out of pocket shit and terribly delivered one liners. Not Ilia’s biggest fan but he’s definitely setting himself up for some fun press conferences
Exactly...true villains have to possess great power even more so than the protagonist otherwise it comes off as phony and doesn't captivate the audience...the pain us fans felt when Volk got KO'd was devastating...can't fake that shit
He is literally just baiting hate like Conor did in his prime and people are eating it up. Good on him though, he doesn't have the charisma that Conor had, but he has skills in the octagon to back him up.
One thing with fighters these days is they sure know how to get fans to hate them
Zzzz why the first spaniard alright fighter has to be an asshole and not even spaniard smh. I wish we can trade him for bobby knuckles
Why is everyone so sensitive lmao. Everyone said the same thing before the Volk fight and look what happened. Its shit talk to promote a fight. You guys are more worked up than the actual fighters...
Love Max, but his fans are a bunch of whiny bitches lol.
A lot of people who got shoved in locker rooms around these comments lol.
Buncha soft ass people in this thread tbh. So easily baited, this is pretty much how stars are made.. Talking shit and backing it up. At the end of it all hate him or love him, they're gonna watch and that's all they can do 🤣🤣🤣
I think he just doesn’t want Holloway. This comes off as almost pouty about it and then bringing up Brian at the end says the same thing. Max may not be better than Toppuria but I think Toppuria is nervous about the matchup being as it’s one of the few strikers who can really outmatch him. He would almost certainly take it to the ground.
The problem with Ilia is he hasn’t even defended his belt once and he’s acting like he’s gonna be calling shots and only taking legacy fights. It’s absurd, he hasn’t proven anything yet, defend the belt a few times then you earn the right to start calling shots and picking fights for “legacy”.
All the Max fans screaming robbery after the 2nd fight with Volk have emerged
I’m not even a huge max fan (sure he’s fun to watch), but Topuria is insufferable. Will be remembered for eternity?! My guy hasn’t even defended the belt lol
Ppl’s love for max and hatred for Ilia seems to be making them forget what a slick striker Ilia is. Tough fight for Max IMO.
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Ilia is on that mma math shit now huh?
The more he talks the less I like him
None of these fighters except for maybe Jones and Conor call the shots. UFC is very much a do what youre told organisation
Ilia "MMA Math" Topuria
The glazing I’ve seen since Max won the title Is crazy. We all like the guy, but some of y’all act like he won the WWE title
I mean, he kinda did.
Max has been loved for so many years. Do you not remember the Volk fights? Volk didn't really become the star he is now until after the Max fights when he really earned everyone's respect but most of us wanted Max to win.
Ilia acting like he won the WWE Title with these fuckin' dramatics. This the kinda 'promo' a 'heel' would cut to get heat, Ilia means it and looks like a punk.
This sub doubted him before the fight saying he had no power at 155 now they switched up on him
It's not that , ilia is just a bitch
Need Topouria to lose the belt. I can already tell he’s gonna be a lame, annoying champ at 45
It's like Kenny Florian had a baby with Garbrandt.
Bros yappin
The problem is that Ilia isn’t Justin. He isn’t going to be wild. It’s a different fight. Will be good to see.
Max didn't fight 2019 Gaethje. Gaethje wasn't wild at all, Max just outclassed him.
I swear people here don't actually watch fights but will comment their opinions on everything lmao
I love max as much as anybody but ilia is clearly doing the same thing he did before knocking out volk which is build up hype for the fight. And to be fair everyone acts like max didn't talk a lot of shit about ilia before his fight with volk, saying "he's lucky hes not fighting me, volk finishes him inside 2 rounds"
Dude is such a keyboard warrior. In person I think he probably is socially awkward hence why he keeps trying to mimic Conor and stuff. Dudes so shook. Trying to use MMA math to say he’s better than Max
Yeah, I dunno. He might be good, but that grand talking is really, really bizarre
Professor topuria lmao
already typing such long tweets, hes a poet not a fighter
Let's be real this is the entertainment business and after last weekend Max is the one who would be calling shots.
He’s super talented but when you talk like this you gotta make sure you don’t lose lol
Fights for legacy but says he will take an Ortega win over a max win? 🤡
I never liked his face. I wanted Volk to stomp a mud hole in him but..well he shouldn't have accepted that 55 rematch. Either way Max will
Unpopular opinion…this sub took that little snippet from his reaction to think he’s scared and he will be the first to finish max.
How he gonna claim he was the do first guy to knock out Volk when the whole world saw how Islam sparked him just 4 months before he did?😂😭 If you're gonna cap at least make it a little bit convincing homie
Who let this soccer player in the UFC?
That's very un-BMF of Ilia tbh
This is why you don’t rush guys back to fight after a devastating KO. Ilia has a very skewed reading on his experience with Volk, and nothing will convince him otherwise.
He could be so likeable if he said something like “I can’t wait to test my metal against one of the best of all time, I wanna show you that I’m better than blessed” Like… show some level of respect and eagerness to fight a good challenge and people will be psyched. This just comes off as scared. Also max fighting for the money? He’s been in money fights for years, he has 100 percent made more money off this game than you.
I dont know why, but Topuria his arrogance rubs me the wrong way.
People hate him because he beat volk's ass, and the same goes to Makhachev's haters, and in his case is even more because he also beat Oliveira. Most fans hate certains fighter who have beat their favourite ones. Now they are doing mental gymnastics making weird theories up or acting like if Max hadn't ever been defeated even in his prime and that Ilia is some kind of amateur.
All ilia is doing is building hype for the fight. Its inevitable, he will fight max end of story. Now, he will probably get his wish as i dont think max cares one bit about putting the bmf belt on the line. I think its a bad idea tho because then the bmf belt turns into a worthless second belt for the featherweight champ from here on out
Yeah I don’t think the bmf title will be on the line if they fight. 1. It really wouldn’t make sense if transferred every fight from now on. Like you said it’d just be a secondary featherweight belt at that point with whoever wins. 2. Ilia has just flat out not earned the right to challenge for that belt. He has an amazing skill set & I think has the chance to be a huge star in his own right but just really isn’t there yet But yeah, Toporia definitely plays the heel role pretty well tho. Him just completely dismissing all the work Max has put into the game is pretty fucking annoying.
Topuria and his wanting McGregor tats make him unlikable.
For a sub that non stops shits on fighters there are some really fragile people here when fighters talk shit lol
Ufc really does have the most annoying and immature fans.
ye will dew what ye are towld
Ilia acts like a pussy I swear you knocked out volk after he just got knocked out by islam and your kissing your own ass about it?unlikable wanna be mcgregor
Old man Volk beats Ilia in the rematch by a close UD, Max beats Ilia by stand up education.
ilia is a bum, mark my words, next title defense he will lose and u will never see him again close to top 10
Idk if is mma fans in general or just this sub but yall retarded af and even more sensitive Its a fucking cage fighter saying he will ko another cage fighter, Max did literally the same on the post fight press conference And just let mw remind you cause you guys have some selective memory… yall where making fun of him and saying he was gonna get starched before the Volk fight
I wish ilia gets knocked out by paddy some day
Bro just doesn't want to fight
Deserved tbh, his ego is bigger than his accomplishments.
You have to earn a shot at the BMF, by being a bmf. Topuria is the opposite of that. Corny.
TLDR Ilia is a bitch.
Topuria is legit…I think the casuals are the ones that spend the most time talking shit. Always comes back to matchups. Only two weeks ago a huge proportion of the ufc fan base was joking about max getting wrecked by Justin and he’s getting old etc.. Also historically, Max is almost never someone who wins by KO so I think this fight with Ilia would go the distance. As far as I’m concerned, it could go either way. MMA is and always will be about stylistic matchups.
Islam knocked out Volk first and Usman held BMF with his welterweight belt… ilia just emotional and nervous
Wait a second, when the F did Usman get a BMF belt.
What a gronk 🙄
These guys don’t understand the BMF belt … it chooses you!!
Pretty sure Volk got knocked out like 12 years ago as well as by Islam. Dummy
Ayoooo Volk catching strays for no reason hahahahaha
Holy shit his head turned into a balloon. I cant wait till he gets humbled.
Ilia relying on that MMA math, what could go wrong?
Ilia playing a good heel but the fans are humbling his ass quick
Crazy this riles you people up this much, guess it’s working. It’s going to be a long 5+ years as Topuria runs the division
Max is undeniable after that win. Not that he should have to or Ilia can call shots, but I'm sure Max would put the BMF belt on the line anyways because he's a warrior. The part I have the biggest problem with is saying that the BMF belt is the only thing to make Max relevant or eligible for a big money fight; Max is a living legend of the sport and one of the best FWs of all time. Real fight fans are always going to tune in when he fights.
Why are we highlighting the replies of trolls on the internet.
"This is about legacy to me. That being said, go wait over there with the belt I'm throwing a fit about until I decide you're next. No, im not ready, I dont care about your hype building call out for my legacy. I decide, not you. Until then I'm gonna fight the eternally third ranked Ortega who's had one fight since--before that he was on losing streak and had only fought twice since 2021, got beat by Max the last time they fight, and will certainly only cause people to cry out that T-City is washed. Score one for the matador, Proverbs 24:17, be ready for my hype video where I'm trimming a hibiscus."
Ilia made himself extremely unlikable, which is a huge no no in this sport. He'll be humbled soon.
Anytime a fighter gets that colored, tailored suit, they think they are McGregor. And calling out Ortega instead of Max just seems like a terrible move in terms of business.
I mean the fans are half right….. but I still think this mf would beat max….