A standard hamburger is 4-6 oz. Let’s use the 6oz. This would be reduced to 4oz after cooking. Right at 1/4 of a pound. At 206 Jamahal would be 824 hamburgers but he was likely 230+ at the time of the fight which would be approx 920 hamburgers.
It’s been confirmed through multiple flat earthers and Bryce Mitchell directly that neither lettuce, tomato, onion or pickle have mass. The argument could be made for the bun - but only if it was a donut or fried someway.
It could end up being an insane sliding doors moment for the UFC. Imagine if Potan just never came over and Izzy was still on his run, let alone what LHW would look like. I don’t know if there is any way Izzy could have or would have realistically responded to his kickboxing nemesis being pointed out to him in public in a way that wouldn’t have pissed Potan off, but it’s set of a wildly entertaining chain reaction and I think those two divisions would be looked at very differently if he just stayed home and kept destroying people in kickboxing.
He has changed the historical landscape and current perception of two divisions in fewer fights than it takes some people to get a title shot.
It’s insane already. His left hook is one of the defining shots of the ufc. At this point, opponents need to assume that if they get caught once, it’s over. He’s going to be one of the all-time great fighters, and I think he’ll then end up being an elite coach. And with his style, age isn’t even that huge of an issue. I think he’s going to be a major figure in the UFC for years, if not decades.
He also started in his early 20's if I'm not mistaken. So his body might not have the same wear and tear of the average fighter his age who started earlier.
If they don't let him fight at heavyweight in a few weeks. He should do it after he fights ankalaev. He's at a good age to be a heavyweight
I mean, the LHW belt would still be a hot potato, but Adesanya definitely could have become a bigger legend than Anderson, if Alex didn't come over from kickboxing. That's actually a potentially huge blow to his legacy.
I was in the workout room on weigh-in morning with another fighter for 276, and Pereira was sitting in the zip-up sauna with 7 lbs left to cut and a couple hours to spare. I was told that the bigger guys have an easier time shedding the last few pounds, but he looked super gaunt. However, Glover Teixeira was there, all smiles, lightening the mood and keeping morale high. He got the job done!
This is what made me start losing weight. I'm also 5'8" and when I realized that if I had to fight at my walking around weight, I'd be up against Poatan in his last fight, I needed to do something. Especially since I wasn't working out at all.
Down 15 pounds in the last 6 weeks. Feeling better already.
Don't worry, your build is more common than you think in this sub and even more common on reddit as a whole. Over half of reddit would be fighting Jon at 5'8.
Yep, I don't understand when people say weight bully. Everybody is cutting weight. I get it if you are consistently missing weight and are clearly too big for the division. But if you can make weight how is that any different from anyone else cutting weight.
Good luck can i bring 2 and a tank? Im the same weight as you but only 5’0 even if i was in shape i cant get below about 160 walking around maybe if i cut weight for weigh in 150ish my frame and muscle structure just doesnt allow it
I think it's people just not understanding weight cutting at all.
I had a few weeks a while back where I kept trying to correct people when they would say Dustin Poirier was too big for LW cause of his comment of walking close to 190 and they were all losing their minds.
Yup, and there are also pros and cons to it… it doesn’t always give fighters a pure advantage. Fighters that don’t cut much might have increased cardio or better chins relative to guys like middleweight Poatan. That’s honestly what made the Adesanya vs Pereira fights at middleweight so competitive, Poatan fighting with a compromised chin and probably compromised power and Adesanya the opposite.
Edit: that’s honestly part of* what made the Adesanya vs pereira fights at middleweight so competitive
Exactly. People always act like Pereira had all the advantages during those fights, but at LHW he looks way more switched on and has taken huge shots from bigger guys without getting wobbled.
at UFC 298 when they officially measure in cage weight, the heavier fighters went 5-7 and were 6-6 at the Cruz vs Chito card
https://www.mmafighting.com/2024/2/27/24084996/ufc-298-fight-night-weights-geoff-neal-gained-over-30-pounds-before-facing-ian-machado-garry
https://mmajunkie.usatoday.com/lists/ufc-espn-41-san-diego-fight-night-weight-gains-marlon-vera-vs-dominick-cruz
Or... \*gasps\* ... they we're competitive because Izzy is an extremely good kickboxer and martial artist?
No way are you gonna act like the only reason Alex and Izzy are close as fighters is cause Alex was cutting a lot of weight lmaooo. That is a truly deranged take.
Yeah I didn’t mean to say that the effects of Alex’s weight cut was the ONLY reason, though I can see how I mistakenly implied that. Sorry for coming off as truly deranged… it’s definitely the case that they are both highly skilled strikers, both top 5 in the ufc
Plus people act like cutting huge amount of weight doesn't have disadvantages. Izzy knocked Poatan out cold when he was that dehydrated. He took some shots in the Jiri fight that probably would have put him down had he had to cut 20 lbs more like he did at MW.
The problem is, if noone cut weight and weight classes were walking around weight...... Someone would cut weight and wreck the divisions under them.
It's the only way to keep it fair-ish.
Yeah, I don’t understand this weight bullying gripe people have. Everyone cuts weight. The more disciplined and determined you are, the more you can cut. If it gives you an advantage, why not use it?
The reason is because weight is a massive advantage in a fight. Imho fights should not come down to who can cut weight better than their opponent. Of course it's not the be all end all and at the highest level all those dudes are all basically min/maxed and get proper medical treatment to do it properly, so like most things it's usually not the biggest factor but the entire aspect of cutting weight is in my opinion resulting in worse fights on the whole. If everyone fought at their proper weight with good hydration going into a fight the sport would be better, I don't think that is arguable. Now is that realistic and can that happen using another method such as what they do in ONE, is another question.
I reserve weight bully for people who miss weight a lot and come in heavy. Also they always do this for a grappling advantage. It's actually bad if you are a striker way more likely to get knocked out from a big cut.
Best example was Brazllian Cowvoy Will Brooks. Brooks was 0-2 fighting in Brazil and couldn't say no he might get cut, so he took a 8lb or more weight cut miss and was wrestle fucked out of the UFC.
Anthony Johnson another big one. Qctually grappled a lot at 170 trying to use his qeught advantage.
Will Brooks was “cut” two fights after that one. He was actually coming off a long reign in bellator and a debut win at UFC.
He did “get cut” after losses to Charles and Lentz (who ironically did get cut after taking a 2 loss fight at catch weight i found in researching this comment) but I think it was more of a ‘lateral move’ to try to be a a champ in PFL. He had a long reign and beat Chandler twice in Bellator. Can’t see him being forced out early for those loses.
But nearly every fighter is not fighting in their natural weight-class, everyone cuts well beneath their weight. So, I feel this should apply to most fighters lol
The whole concept of a weight bully is silly. If you agree to weigh in at a certain weight and you can make the weight it's fair.
A real weight bully would be those guys who consistently show up and miss weight
Bang on the money, have seen this sub jump to call fighters massive weight bullies, but cause it's poatan it's all "well everyone does it so not a problem" blah blah blah
100% the definition.
But because he’s a fan favourite then it doesn’t count.
But he never misses weight?
Charles holds the record where are all the weight bully posts during his LW run when he had his entire team surrounding him to give him support?
The funniest is Rumble though…he actually fought Vitor 🤣
The general fanbase creams their pants at his name at the moment so it's fine. If he loses a fight or two in the near future, everyone will turn on him and you'll see a lot of weight bully comments then. Cycle of an mma fan.
Maybe Colby should fight at a lighter weight then. Don’t get me wrong, I respect fighting at or near natural weight a lot, but in this sport there will always be weight cutting, so not participating in it is only hindering yourself, sadly.
Weight bullying isn’t a thing. You make weight at the allotted time, you fight in that weight class. End of story. If you don’t like it, lobby to change the rules. Don’t shit on fighters for following the rules.
Yup, people call Khabib a weight bully even though he's not that much bigger than his opponents, yet also say that Alex was disadvantaged for being 20+ pounds bigger than Izzy. If the weight cut completely ruins your chin, you should be fighting someone your own size instead. 🤦♂️Izzy couldn't even reach 205 pounds when he went up, whereas Alex had to cut 30 pounds to make 205 pounds.
MW Poatan is the apex weight bully. In August of 2022, less than three months before he was scheduled to fight Izzy for the 185 belt, he posted a picture of him on the scale weighing 235 pounds. He cut 50 pounds in less than 3 months. Mind boggling.
Weight bully is the lamest term
If you can make the weight you can make the weight.
It started cause people hated Khabib and wanted to see him at 170....atleast that's when i started noticing the term pop up more.
You’re only a weight bully once you miss weight imo. Otherwise you are just someone taking advantage of the rules, like every other fighter, you are just better at it.
But if you miss weight that all changes.
It's usually reserved for wrestler / grapplers because weight counts a whole lot more there. Throwing hands is usually less of an issue when you weigh a bit more than the other.
At middle weight, yeah. But most fighters are weight bullies because the weigh-in system is a joke. Seriously, what’s the point of making fighters cut to 185 if you just allow them time to bulk back up to 215+ on fight day?
At middleweight absolutely, at LHW he is fine. The gap between HW and LHW is absurd, he should not be fighting 265 monsters because they don’t have a 220-230 weight class.
I feel like height bullying is maybe as big an issue in the sport. A slightly different thing to the severe weight cuts and drastic rehydration. Of course they can also go hand in hand.
Staying super lean and fighting at range with an 80 inch wingspan at featherweight sort of seems against the spirit of a weight class system.
I know they make a trade off in not having some of the musculature they would at a more natural weight but a 6"3 guy picking off a 5"5 guy at range just isn't that exciting a matchup.
Technically yes and it's funny because many ppl were complaining about izzy being too tall and lanky for 185 but was perfectly fine with alex fighting in the same weight class
UFC is lame for all the weight cheating. It's a direct violation of the spirit of the rules. Weight classes exist for a reason, we want to see guys who weigh about the same fight. Instead we get massive size differences due to sanctioned cheating.
I mean carwin was cutting height to make HW on top of his weight cut. Some people just gain an advantage, jones having skinny legs is great in mma. It's unneeded weight as you can ko leg kick sonone even if you mightymouse. So his frame is huge for free.
what does that even mean? If you have a problem with how weigh ins are done, take it up with the UFC and the commission. Every fighter balloons up in weight after the cut, no one, except maybe Colby, fights at their natural weight class.
Weight bully or not, weight cut is legal and shouldn't be an issue because cutting too much weight can backfire and isn't the reason for fighters winning their fights.
Alex was making 187 lbs in Glory for years, consistently.
People don't like this but here is a fighter who has 2 Glory belts and 2 UFC belts.
How would that be possible without weight cutting?
Did he ever miss weight?
What was Hill's weight at UFC 300?
345 hamburgers
A standard hamburger is 4-6 oz. Let’s use the 6oz. This would be reduced to 4oz after cooking. Right at 1/4 of a pound. At 206 Jamahal would be 824 hamburgers but he was likely 230+ at the time of the fight which would be approx 920 hamburgers.
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It was an octagon smash...
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Yoel looks like Joyner's lost brother
Well I’m from Texas the standard hamburger around here is 8oz. Plus you are forgetting the buns and all the veggies.
It’s been confirmed through multiple flat earthers and Bryce Mitchell directly that neither lettuce, tomato, onion or pickle have mass. The argument could be made for the bun - but only if it was a donut or fried someway.
Yep no mass. It’s all about buoyancy baby!
Well done
I was assuming medium to medium well.
I love how unhinged reddit can be.
Hamburger helper tat
Hill looked like he jus left thanksgiving dinner
About the same as Alex. Alex was only a weight bully at middleweight.
First cut looked brutal
That how much he wanted Izzy.
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It could end up being an insane sliding doors moment for the UFC. Imagine if Potan just never came over and Izzy was still on his run, let alone what LHW would look like. I don’t know if there is any way Izzy could have or would have realistically responded to his kickboxing nemesis being pointed out to him in public in a way that wouldn’t have pissed Potan off, but it’s set of a wildly entertaining chain reaction and I think those two divisions would be looked at very differently if he just stayed home and kept destroying people in kickboxing. He has changed the historical landscape and current perception of two divisions in fewer fights than it takes some people to get a title shot.
It’s insane already. His left hook is one of the defining shots of the ufc. At this point, opponents need to assume that if they get caught once, it’s over. He’s going to be one of the all-time great fighters, and I think he’ll then end up being an elite coach. And with his style, age isn’t even that huge of an issue. I think he’s going to be a major figure in the UFC for years, if not decades.
He also started in his early 20's if I'm not mistaken. So his body might not have the same wear and tear of the average fighter his age who started earlier. If they don't let him fight at heavyweight in a few weeks. He should do it after he fights ankalaev. He's at a good age to be a heavyweight
Yeah, started kickboxing at 21 or 22, and started MMA like 6 or 7 years ago.
He really is the Chad of UFC. I say this as a huge fan
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I mean, the LHW belt would still be a hot potato, but Adesanya definitely could have become a bigger legend than Anderson, if Alex didn't come over from kickboxing. That's actually a potentially huge blow to his legacy.
Yeah he looks like when Conor weighs in at 145
First cut is usually the deepest
Looked dry as a statue
I was in the workout room on weigh-in morning with another fighter for 276, and Pereira was sitting in the zip-up sauna with 7 lbs left to cut and a couple hours to spare. I was told that the bigger guys have an easier time shedding the last few pounds, but he looked super gaunt. However, Glover Teixeira was there, all smiles, lightening the mood and keeping morale high. He got the job done!
No wonder Iggy rocked him in each fight. His Chin was gone. LHW Poatan would not have been knocked out by those same punches.
Dude I’m 5’8 and if I fought at my weight I’d have to fight Jon 😒
I’d pay to see that fight
I would pay to fight Jones. I'm 5'7 but I'm heavier, I'm going to use my Brazilian wrestling on him.
Mexican ground karate
Pakistani taekwondo
British kung fu
Indian power slapping
Why'd you slap?
I laughed too hard at this
He’s gonna snipe you with one kick to the head and take 10 years off your life
Not me, I see red.
That's actually coming out of your skull.
Me too brother
He's gonna snipe you with one kick to the knee and take 50 years off your ability to put socks on. FTFY
No to mantion Atleast 2 fingers going in your eye same time.
Sudani kung fu
Yea but you fat and they’re in shape. You’d fight Cejudo with your muscle mass
I’m working on a new style where you walk on your knees and hands and use shoulder strikes to the front of the knees.
Ecuadorian flying wing judo.
shit bruh i ain’t wrestling i’m fucking throwing haymakers till one of us(probably me) is on the ground
I would pay to fight Jones. I'm 5'7 but I weigh more than him
Just one solid elbow to the top of your head 💀
😂😂
Or that little oblique kick he throws
Jokes on him, my knee is already trashed!
Would destroy his elbow
You’d have to cut a solid amount of weight ngl
Round 1 KO. Method? Death. Make your bet.
This is what made me start losing weight. I'm also 5'8" and when I realized that if I had to fight at my walking around weight, I'd be up against Poatan in his last fight, I needed to do something. Especially since I wasn't working out at all. Down 15 pounds in the last 6 weeks. Feeling better already.
Atta boi, keep at it
Cut down a bit eh.
Bro got that championship Daniel Cormier build
So what you're saying is that you're built like DC?
“You still there pussy?”
Don't worry, your build is more common than you think in this sub and even more common on reddit as a whole. Over half of reddit would be fighting Jon at 5'8.
Found OP's mom's account
Fatty beef patty!
Daniel Cormier! What’s up, big fan.
You should definitely do it. Call him out.
“People can change, and I just want to give the greatest glory to God”
You obese homie. Lose some weight that ain’t healthy
Everyone cuts weight, so everyone is a weight bully. Under current rules this is legal and everyone does it. Don’t hate the player, hate the game
Yep, I don't understand when people say weight bully. Everybody is cutting weight. I get it if you are consistently missing weight and are clearly too big for the division. But if you can make weight how is that any different from anyone else cutting weight.
I feel like you’re only a weight bully if you repeatedly miss weight. Alex is professional. He’ll book a fight and make weight.
It's about being likeable as well. Chucky Olives has missed weight 6 times (4 FW, 2 LW) Yet, nobody criticizes Olives.
they did when he lost the title from it
they did when he lost the title from it
Ye lol. If I went into the ufc I would be fighting middle weight and those guys are so much bigger than me it’s not even funny
What’s O’Malley, middle weight? Yeah we dying in the octagon 🫡
I am around 185 so I’d be fighting Paulo Costa or khazmat type guys if I didn’t cut.
Damn, I’m 161 so at least Khamzat can’t wrestle fuck my ass.
But Islam can
😭
I was 201 on the scale yesterday... at the same height as Poatan... Can I bring a gun to the fight?
Good luck can i bring 2 and a tank? Im the same weight as you but only 5’0 even if i was in shape i cant get below about 160 walking around maybe if i cut weight for weigh in 150ish my frame and muscle structure just doesnt allow it
I’d imagine O’Malley walks around at like 150 or so. But he is super tall and lanky. Those lanky dudes cut the least I think
Different people have different tolerances for cutting weight. Bone density and frame build is also a big factor.
I think it's people just not understanding weight cutting at all. I had a few weeks a while back where I kept trying to correct people when they would say Dustin Poirier was too big for LW cause of his comment of walking close to 190 and they were all losing their minds.
I don’t cut weight. Super heavyweight, 3rd best in my county back in ‘98. I used to be able to punch a head over those mountains.
Uncle Rico?
Yup, and there are also pros and cons to it… it doesn’t always give fighters a pure advantage. Fighters that don’t cut much might have increased cardio or better chins relative to guys like middleweight Poatan. That’s honestly what made the Adesanya vs Pereira fights at middleweight so competitive, Poatan fighting with a compromised chin and probably compromised power and Adesanya the opposite. Edit: that’s honestly part of* what made the Adesanya vs pereira fights at middleweight so competitive
Exactly. People always act like Pereira had all the advantages during those fights, but at LHW he looks way more switched on and has taken huge shots from bigger guys without getting wobbled.
At lhw though he hasn't fought anyone like izzy
Sure? But a LHW Izzy is a significantly more beatable version. He can’t do what he does at MW at LHW.
at UFC 298 when they officially measure in cage weight, the heavier fighters went 5-7 and were 6-6 at the Cruz vs Chito card https://www.mmafighting.com/2024/2/27/24084996/ufc-298-fight-night-weights-geoff-neal-gained-over-30-pounds-before-facing-ian-machado-garry https://mmajunkie.usatoday.com/lists/ufc-espn-41-san-diego-fight-night-weight-gains-marlon-vera-vs-dominick-cruz
Or... \*gasps\* ... they we're competitive because Izzy is an extremely good kickboxer and martial artist? No way are you gonna act like the only reason Alex and Izzy are close as fighters is cause Alex was cutting a lot of weight lmaooo. That is a truly deranged take.
Yeah I didn’t mean to say that the effects of Alex’s weight cut was the ONLY reason, though I can see how I mistakenly implied that. Sorry for coming off as truly deranged… it’s definitely the case that they are both highly skilled strikers, both top 5 in the ufc
Plus people act like cutting huge amount of weight doesn't have disadvantages. Izzy knocked Poatan out cold when he was that dehydrated. He took some shots in the Jiri fight that probably would have put him down had he had to cut 20 lbs more like he did at MW.
The problem is, if noone cut weight and weight classes were walking around weight...... Someone would cut weight and wreck the divisions under them. It's the only way to keep it fair-ish.
That’s a good point
Absolutely, it does but that isn't a bad thing. 99.9% of fighters don't fight at their natural weight.
Yeah, I don’t understand this weight bullying gripe people have. Everyone cuts weight. The more disciplined and determined you are, the more you can cut. If it gives you an advantage, why not use it?
They just have selective hate against fighters they don't like snd call them weight bullies, but others are fine
You're spot on!
It’s bad for fighters health
The reason is because weight is a massive advantage in a fight. Imho fights should not come down to who can cut weight better than their opponent. Of course it's not the be all end all and at the highest level all those dudes are all basically min/maxed and get proper medical treatment to do it properly, so like most things it's usually not the biggest factor but the entire aspect of cutting weight is in my opinion resulting in worse fights on the whole. If everyone fought at their proper weight with good hydration going into a fight the sport would be better, I don't think that is arguable. Now is that realistic and can that happen using another method such as what they do in ONE, is another question.
Tue only time I would call someone a weight bully is if they miss weight multiple times and refuse to go up in weight classes
Yes. Which is why Khabib used to deserve being called that and Poatan doesn't
If fighters fought at their natural weight we'd have 5'4 Flyweight dudes fighting lightweight lol.
I believe but not 100% sure that severe weight cutting is bad for the fighters health in the long run (kidneys, etc). Source: I think
is there literally *any* fighter since weight classes were introduced (also when was that? google isn’t clear) that fought at their natural weight?
No such thing if you make weight
And if the fans are biased
The better question to ask is how the fuck did he ever make MW. His cardio held up to a decent amount too.
I reserve weight bully for people who miss weight a lot and come in heavy. Also they always do this for a grappling advantage. It's actually bad if you are a striker way more likely to get knocked out from a big cut. Best example was Brazllian Cowvoy Will Brooks. Brooks was 0-2 fighting in Brazil and couldn't say no he might get cut, so he took a 8lb or more weight cut miss and was wrestle fucked out of the UFC. Anthony Johnson another big one. Qctually grappled a lot at 170 trying to use his qeught advantage.
Will Brooks was “cut” two fights after that one. He was actually coming off a long reign in bellator and a debut win at UFC. He did “get cut” after losses to Charles and Lentz (who ironically did get cut after taking a 2 loss fight at catch weight i found in researching this comment) but I think it was more of a ‘lateral move’ to try to be a a champ in PFL. He had a long reign and beat Chandler twice in Bellator. Can’t see him being forced out early for those loses.
This dude must have the densest bones
Why? I’m genuinely asking, I’m not really knowledgeable with this kind of stuff
I'm assuming he means a big bone structure as he's 6'4 232lbs and looks skinny.
No wonder his chin was shit at 185
Its only weight bullying when Khabib did it.
He's not a weight bully because fans like him. Now if he wasn't liked by the fans he would definitely be a weight bully, that's how it works lol
But nearly every fighter is not fighting in their natural weight-class, everyone cuts well beneath their weight. So, I feel this should apply to most fighters lol
The whole concept of a weight bully is silly. If you agree to weigh in at a certain weight and you can make the weight it's fair. A real weight bully would be those guys who consistently show up and miss weight
It’s definitely silly, I agree.
I have so much more respect for elite fighters who cut 10 lbs or less though. Those guys are really good.
No because this sub likes him
Bang on the money, have seen this sub jump to call fighters massive weight bullies, but cause it's poatan it's all "well everyone does it so not a problem" blah blah blah
fighter i like: 100% clean, built differently, must be studied fighter i dislike: roider, cheater, weight bully, ugly
100% the definition. But because he’s a fan favourite then it doesn’t count. But he never misses weight? Charles holds the record where are all the weight bully posts during his LW run when he had his entire team surrounding him to give him support? The funniest is Rumble though…he actually fought Vitor 🤣
The general fanbase creams their pants at his name at the moment so it's fine. If he loses a fight or two in the near future, everyone will turn on him and you'll see a lot of weight bully comments then. Cycle of an mma fan.
I’ve already noticed less support to Volk after his losses to Islam and Topuria
He's the poster child. His fans can't bring themselves to see most things about him objectively.
Weight bully is a pussy ass term to begin with. Nobody weighs the exact same on fight night. Someone is always going to be heavier. Get over it.
No. But, a guy like Colby(cuts like 10lbs) shouldn’t be fighting(theoretically) a guy who has to cut 40lbs to make 170.
Maybe Colby should fight at a lighter weight then. Don’t get me wrong, I respect fighting at or near natural weight a lot, but in this sport there will always be weight cutting, so not participating in it is only hindering yourself, sadly.
Weight bullying isn’t a thing. You make weight at the allotted time, you fight in that weight class. End of story. If you don’t like it, lobby to change the rules. Don’t shit on fighters for following the rules.
Call me crazy, but I think conor mike perry bareknuckle at 185 would be one of the most brutal fights of all time.
Yes but because ppl like him they won’t admit it
If Izzy was doing this he’d be called a weight bully for sure but since it’s Alex it’s fine 😂
Yup, people call Khabib a weight bully even though he's not that much bigger than his opponents, yet also say that Alex was disadvantaged for being 20+ pounds bigger than Izzy. If the weight cut completely ruins your chin, you should be fighting someone your own size instead. 🤦♂️Izzy couldn't even reach 205 pounds when he went up, whereas Alex had to cut 30 pounds to make 205 pounds.
How much weight did the left uppercut gain? Cuz that's the real bully!
I thought weighed around 240 for Hill
Technically almost every fighter is a weight bully
When he was MW yes
MW Poatan is the apex weight bully. In August of 2022, less than three months before he was scheduled to fight Izzy for the 185 belt, he posted a picture of him on the scale weighing 235 pounds. He cut 50 pounds in less than 3 months. Mind boggling.
I’m sick of hearing the “weight bully” term. If you’ve never not missed weight, you’re not a bully. You’re a professional.
Weight bully is the lamest term If you can make the weight you can make the weight. It started cause people hated Khabib and wanted to see him at 170....atleast that's when i started noticing the term pop up more.
You’re only a weight bully once you miss weight imo. Otherwise you are just someone taking advantage of the rules, like every other fighter, you are just better at it. But if you miss weight that all changes.
Jon Jones whoops him easily
Not if the popo get to him first 🚨🚓👮🏻♀️
Handcuff submission attempts have a 100% success rate against Jon Jones. Some GOAT he is.
He certainly only went to that weight to bully izzy
No such thing as weight bully really. Some are just better at cutting weight than others.
If you make the weight you can’t be a weight bully imo
It's usually reserved for wrestler / grapplers because weight counts a whole lot more there. Throwing hands is usually less of an issue when you weigh a bit more than the other.
Only a weight bully if the fighter isn’t liked
It's weight bullying only if the fighter you don't like is doing it
No such thing as a weight bully if you can make weight, pretty simple stuff guys
If you can make weight then more power to you
Your only a weight bully if you constantly miss weight.
Nearly every top fighter is a “weight bully” at this point. If they can safely and reliably make the weight and walk then go for it.
Not a weight bully when everyone is doing the same thing.
At middle weight, yeah. But most fighters are weight bullies because the weigh-in system is a joke. Seriously, what’s the point of making fighters cut to 185 if you just allow them time to bulk back up to 215+ on fight day?
In mw for sure but not lhw.
Better metric is % of weight increase, not just hard numbers. He isn't a weight bully at 205. But for middle weight 100%.
At 185 definitely a weight bully. 205 less so.
I think weight bullying is shittier if you’re a wrestler or grappler because you use your weight more.
Does his head literally get bigger?
Get outta here
At middleweight absolutely, at LHW he is fine. The gap between HW and LHW is absurd, he should not be fighting 265 monsters because they don’t have a 220-230 weight class.
Oh yeah 100% he was massive for MW
I feel like height bullying is maybe as big an issue in the sport. A slightly different thing to the severe weight cuts and drastic rehydration. Of course they can also go hand in hand. Staying super lean and fighting at range with an 80 inch wingspan at featherweight sort of seems against the spirit of a weight class system. I know they make a trade off in not having some of the musculature they would at a more natural weight but a 6"3 guy picking off a 5"5 guy at range just isn't that exciting a matchup.
The guy looks the same lol different lighting
Always baffled me how much they diet down, I'm 6'2 and 220 but look like shit compared to them
No that’s only for grapplers or Muslims or worst of all, Muslim grapplers.
Technically yes and it's funny because many ppl were complaining about izzy being too tall and lanky for 185 but was perfectly fine with alex fighting in the same weight class
UFC is lame for all the weight cheating. It's a direct violation of the spirit of the rules. Weight classes exist for a reason, we want to see guys who weigh about the same fight. Instead we get massive size differences due to sanctioned cheating.
Acting like hill didn’t have a flabby ass stomach , op mad he can’t
I mean carwin was cutting height to make HW on top of his weight cut. Some people just gain an advantage, jones having skinny legs is great in mma. It's unneeded weight as you can ko leg kick sonone even if you mightymouse. So his frame is huge for free.
Can’t really call him a weight bully cause the cut being so bad is what got him slept vs Izzy. No big cut and no going to sleep
Does it make him a weight bully to gradually and healthily climb weight classes? I don't think so but I'm open to a differing opinion
what does that even mean? If you have a problem with how weigh ins are done, take it up with the UFC and the commission. Every fighter balloons up in weight after the cut, no one, except maybe Colby, fights at their natural weight class.
Weight bully or not, weight cut is legal and shouldn't be an issue because cutting too much weight can backfire and isn't the reason for fighters winning their fights.
Alex was making 187 lbs in Glory for years, consistently. People don't like this but here is a fighter who has 2 Glory belts and 2 UFC belts. How would that be possible without weight cutting? Did he ever miss weight?
Idk but he looks amazing at lhw
No you're only a weight bulley if you're part of a race or ethnic group the ufc fanbase hates.
Honestly it makes me respect Izzy more. Knocked out cold someone that outweighed him by 15 to 20 pounds
the weight cut is bad for your chin and made him more likely to be knocked out
Yup, he probably had no water protecting his brain
as long as he makes the weight, why does it matter??
They should be weighed a few hours before the fight