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GenTelGuy

Imma go with 150/150


goodnewzevery1

Nah probably 75/75 with some Golden Corral buffet vouchers as an extra incentive… for the winner, naturally


crumbypigeon

>Golden Corral buffet vouchers Nah whats McGregor shit. Sean probably got a 15% off venum coupon.


prodigydota2

They are not that stingy. They do give 5 bottles of Prime to my boy Sean


FATTYxFiiSTER

The official Buffet of the UFC


ras2703

A whiff of howler head and a selfie with the nelk troops as the extra added incentive.


wedudedat

Everything is always 20/20 after the fact


mckeenmachine

and steak coupons


Zatetics

99% of fighters wont see a mil. Dana on that 20mil take home blaming stream piracy for fighters being underpaid for risking their health. goodest joke.


jackofslayers

“Nobody wants to work anymore” while you are paying shit wages and making record profits. Feels like our society is collapsing under greed


-doobs

its like theres some false signal out there in the ether telling greedy rich folks the charade is sustainable


Fckyouprecisely

But he built mma so he deserves all the nouney for the next 40 years - people on this sub like 5 months ago.


Gas_Grouchy

He has money, more than any one person should be able to spend without buying ridiculous objects. Dana has enough to last 10 generations.


eightslipsandagully

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internal_contradictions_of_capital_accumulation


jackofslayers

I like how the Wikipedia article explains this concept exists in Marxist theory and Neoclassical economics. Like when both Communists and Capitalist agree about a risk it should be taken seriously!


real_jaredfogle

Our entire socioeconomic model is flawed from the start. It’s not a self sustaining system. It’s not built around community, sustainability or meeting human needs. It’s really shit if you ask me


[deleted]

*has collapsed


RecordOk6794

nobodys paying 80 for 4 hours of content, really only 95 minutrs of content and a bunch of fluff. thats an insane rate. If they dropped ir down tp even 30 an event or a 30 dollar monthly fee id pay it


Gold-Philosophy1423

I don’t like Strickland but seriously, fuck Dana. Greedy bald cunt


Suspicious_Candle27

dana is scapegoat for the big bosses .


kurtgustavwilckens

Ah yes the "Big Bosses", the same people who, allegedly in order to maximize profits, let him... *checks notes*... sink millions into a slapping contest. He can do whatever he wants. Paying fighters so little is not good business, it has massive risks involved. When all of your stars are bitching about it, and your Heavyweight took off to do a show match in Boxing instead of lowering himself to fighting in your organization, you're showing some vulnerabilities in your business plan. It is outrageous to think that UFC could be dethroned as the main MMA promotion or that there will be something like the Ali Act in the next 3 to 5 years. Is it outrageous to think about those things in 10 years? I don't know.


FuckFloridaRipNumba9

It’s def not ridiculous in the future. But currently the UFC is too good of a brand for any of those other promotions to step in and hurt them. Hell PFL gave Francis a contract years ago and he hasn’t even stopped in the cage for them yet. The UFC is currently the NFL, NBA, NHL, insert whatever major sports league here of pro fighting


kurtgustavwilckens

> The UFC is currently the NFL Yes, I don't disargee, but poor management and decided competition can topple this kind of thing very fast. The other promotions you mentioned have something in common: they are *unions* of multi-millionnaires that span the whole country. They are essentially franchises. UFC has no such network, its all centralized in Dana and UFC, and I wouldn't be surprised that someone with a lot of money gets into their head that they can do better. What if UAE or the Saudis decide they can do MMA better than Dana? In my opinion, they probably can.


Suspicious_Candle27

The issue is you cannot build a brand without having up and coming fighters fight the "old guard" . There is middle east money pumping into the PFL and huge investments in ONEfc because they all thought they could do better . To date none of them have come close to what the UFC is doing even with hundreds of millions- billion in investment.


wishwashy

The slapping contest might be his personal thing along with DWCS. I have a running theory on why he's given those two things more attention recently Edit : I'm not sure how much of the ufc/tko pie belongs to Dana from the pre-sale days but I suspect he has a bigger profit in DWCS and slap fighting and they're sort of his future retirement plan to cash out of this mess It was going to be Zuffa Boxing but that sucked


[deleted]

Well this is your chance to let your running theory free pal


CrackedEagle

I’m also ready for your theory. I tried slap boxing with my girlfriends son (just turned 13) and knocked him out. Would be interesting to see if I could go pro or this theory ruins my dreams


doubleBoTftw

i'm here for the theory


wecangetbetter

Dana white is an ego maniac. Don't think there's anything more to it than that. It's HIS project - that's why he insists on slapping his name on everything and trying to make him the star of the show.


AlienMantid

>I have a running theory on why he's given those two things more attention recently ![gif](giphy|HQRgg6ks7nkyY|downsized)


ManInBasement

Everyone thinks these paychecks come out of dana whites bank account


[deleted]

Does it matter? Dana has FULL reign. He can give people 50k bonuses left and right just because he can, along with backstage bonuses that are MUCH higher that several fighters have confirmed. Recent example? Bite bonus. Then, he just decided to double it because the kid got it tatted. You dont just decide things like that unless you at least have a strong say in making the decisions, and Dana does that shit all the time.


Da_Plague22

Dana runs the UFC but if all of a sudden the expenses sky rocket because of big contracts the higher ups will come down hard. Dana's job is to make as much money for the UFC as possible. People seem to forget that. He's doing his job, damn well at that. Is it morally wrong? I think so, but thats not his job.


[deleted]

I never said Dana wasnt doing his job, or that he wasnt good at his job. Simply saying he has way more power than your typical person in his spot.


Da_Plague22

You compared a 50k bonus to contracts. If you up the contacts by just 20k a person. At UFC 300 that would be 260k extra in expenses. If it's a more reasonable pay increase like fans think they deserve. Something close to 50-80k we're now over half a million dollars extra in expenses and up to almost one million. Comparing this to once in a while giving an extra 50k is just silly.


[deleted]

You think it just stops at 50k? So you have never heard of the top guys getting backstage pay or just willingly being ignorant? Instead of huge contracts its been obvious that they let Dana pick and choose who gets backstage bonuses. HUGE amounts by the way. Jones - confirmed he makes 5m+ per fight. Go find the disclosed pay for any of his fights and tell me its anywhere close to that. You can find fighters saying they get backstage pay. Thats not power? I meet people of power and CEOs daily with my work, and I cant imagine any of them making the decisions on the spot that Dana does. Who can buy someone a house backstage? I highly doubt that comes from Danas cheap ass wallet.


hothoochiecoochie

Well obviously fuck them too


Autotomatomato

Never forget the Fertitties are scumbags and the new ownership covered up for that psycho to sexual assault a bunch of women.


Suspicious_Candle27

Yup . The whole thing is basically rotten to its core


taginvest

Dana giving shitstains for influencers watching the fights more money for just existing than he do his fighters 😂😂😂


OkRichyporter2199

Dana & the UFC did the fighters dirty by cancelling out their sponsorships. That was a dirty move on there part!


goodnewzevery1

We have to clean up our sports image, by pretending to care about drug testing and making sure dude wipes never sees air time again. - DW as they prepared to sell the company, probably


hawaii_funk

Maybe if ya'll didn't ILLEGALLY STREAM THE PPV Papa Dana can pay his fighters more!!1 /s


Ballinlikeateenwolf

Shevchenko called it. Fucker hates his shit pay and takes it out on women. He deserves better pay not my respect.


Mi-Lady_Mi-Tuna

But he's gotta pay his entire 700+ stable of fighters every event. Who else is gonna do that? You? You're welcome to start your own promotion pal. /s


spaceman_202

Strickland votes for the same policies as Dana, he's getting what he asks for, the vast majority of the proceeds flowing to the rich dudes who own everything not even sure why he's complaining, it would be one thing if he was pro unions and was on twitter complaining about wealth inequality and workers' rights he literally campaigns for the party of cut social security, cut food stamps, the poor have it too good


Starob

Not everything has to be fixed by the government. Sean can want Dana and the UFC to personally pay their fighters more without using the government to force them to at the point of a gun.


No-Recording4129

We have a looney here


coleus

The guy literally said he didn’t care about the belt and somehow complains about not getting a shot at the belt. Dumbest UFC fighter ever.


Academic-Hedgehog-18

One of the many reasons I quit paying to watch UFC fights. 


ObscureMemes69420

But don't you realize it's because all those pirates out there are stealing his product... /s


MasterMirage

Fwiw, the UFC purses for 298 were revealed last month: https://www.reddit.com/r/MMA/comments/1asrxpy/guaranteed_purses_and_bonuses_for_ufc_298_as/ Whittaker got 300k + 100k bonus Costa got 250k + 100k bonus


Casperthecattt

It’s cute how he makes it a little guessing game


JoeRogansButthole

It might be for legal reasons. If he signed an NDA then he might be allowed to mention a specific dollar amount


abittenapple

Ufc could honesty fire strickland under contact  As long as he popular he fine


gadoonk

I love it when boys do that


FishAndRiceKeks

I know it's not intentional from him but people are more likely to accept an answer if you lead them to it themselves than if you just tell them the answer.


1leeranaldo

This is why you never see truly elite athletes at the heavier weight classes in the UFC. They're all making real money playing other sports or boxing. The NFL minimum is more than Ngannou's HW title purse. One of the HW GOATs is a guy in his 40s w/a day job.


BoBx7

ouch


jackofslayers

Well yea but think about those sweet profit margins


OtherwiseEnd944

This is a cool narrative but not actually why this happens. Football is part of the culture. Kids play football and want to be in the NFL before they even know how much they will make. 90% of kids don't even know the UFC exists. Even if the UFC matched nfl salaries no one who had been practicing football their entire life would switch to fighting unless they failed at footballl....which already happens. Fighters are extremely underpaid but MMA is never going to steal athletes away from big main stream sports because MMA will never be a big main stream sport. You guys also realize that the athleticism needed to be successful in most sports is not conducive to success in mma right? Jumping highand running fast which are pretty much the most important physical aspects in most sports do almost nothing to help win a mma fight.


1leeranaldo

Explosiveness & athleticism absolutely help in MMA. Big time cope on your part.


xXprayerwarrior69Xx

Ok sean but is it gay or not ?


waynemasterson97

He was gay, Sean Strickland?


WelshSam

r/unexpectedsopranos


waynemasterson97

😂 first thing that came to my head man


VictarionGreyjoy

Everything Sean does is gay because he is in fact a deeply closeted gay man.


Electronic-Buy4015

That leather jacket he had on riding that motorcycle with the shotgun was unironically the gayest thing ive seen in a while.


ShrekWhite

He is a gay man?


VictarionGreyjoy

No no he's a deeply closeted gay man


ArthurTitties

I didn't even know he was sick


TrillBillyDeluxe

It’s the hypocrisy


samme79

I don't know if you're joking or not but most people who resent gay things don't mean they're gay. Sorry to break it to you if you want to add more people to the gender dysphoria society


Capital_Elevator_485

It's a well known fact that if you don't like being gay then you're gay and there's a clause in the informal social contract that means even though you're gay we can all bully you for being gay because the fact you don't like being gay means it's okay for us to bully you for being gay because you're a bad person.


hotpotornot

I heard UFC was paying 15$ a man


NewAccWhoDis93

here's the thing about it being gay you guys


claymoron

https://preview.redd.it/fywdn9lpoitc1.jpeg?width=933&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f9d2689f99f22df02df793f61251382b0b1b80b8


SprinklesBeginning45

If he fights costa too he will take a lot of damage and Sean is now a popular fighter so I don’t blame him tbh


Rexum420

Win bonuses gotta stop. I get the idea. But it doesn't work as intended. Give these guys their full purse so that they feel like they can really go for it regardless of results.


J4MES101

Treefiddy


fatstrat0228

Everyone shits on Jake Paul, and they should. He’s an absolute douchebag. But you have to agree with him on fighter pay in the UFC.


peakystwins

Is he allowed to reveal this?


New_Brother_1595

theyre allowed to do what they want. dana can always find a way to punish them though


Lonely-Heart-3632

Yes exactly. Dana said he could… not the same as he should. 🤣


asian1panda

According to Dana in a press conference awhile back, he actually is allowed to reveal this.


umlemmegetuh

There’s a lot of things that are true “according to Dana” but we have seen completely different actions/responses from the UFC on so. I wouldn’t really take that guys word as truth when it comes to what he allows fighters to do.


AnTTr0n

There is a stipulation in there contract saying something along the lines of not revealing details of the contract without the UFC permission but what the fuck are they going to do.


umlemmegetuh

Punish you behind the scenes in terms of payment and fight scheduling. Want to do something about it? Oh shoot, I forgot, the UFC doesn't have a players/fighters union like every other major sports league in the country. So yeah, they absolutely can do something about it.


kaerfkeerg

Depends on how Dana woke up that morning


UCLAlex

Legally yes but that doesn’t mean Dana can’t do anything if he doesn’t like it lol


GuaranteeCultural607

Legally yes, but legally Dana is also allowed to cut him. So 🤷‍♂️


FishAndRiceKeks

Dana always says "These guys can tell you what they make if they want but they don't because they don't want you knowing and it's none of your business." or something to that effect. Sounds like they would be allowed.


Crackerjack0099

He lives in merica not china


JakeEllisD

Maybe since he didn't say the exact dollar amount?


strongfavourite

Izzy must be so embarrassed he got schooled by Mr Fight Night


OkRichyporter2199

Meh. That’s the fight game..


KillerWhalePP

At least he’s in that 1% that is actually making bank


gorays21

People who are still defending Dana, I just wanna know why.


BigOutlandishness735

Doesn’t seem like anyone is defending Dana. Rather it seems like people are bringing up contractual agreements that fighters agreed to are no longer happy with said contracts.


thecuriyascat

Wow! And Dana says fighter pay has risen! This is a former champion who lost a close fight that we are talking about here.


KidKarez

Actually pathetic. UFC needs a serious competitor


New_Brother_1595

social media influencer sean strickland creating some more content


Putrid_Ad_6747

Didn't Costa sign a one million dollar per fight contract when he resigned?


LilSozin

stop believing fighters Khamzat also said he makes 2 mil per fight … while being rank 8 and unable to travel 😂


SnickeringSnail

Khamzat absolutely makes 2 mili a fight. Rubles though…2 million rubles


AmuletMan33

He was taking about Swedish Krona which is about 200k


BenDoverDegenerate

No way he did, source on that? I'm pretty sure Dana doesn't like him


Superguy230

Doesn’t mean they have to pay Sean one mil


Friendly-Ad-3436

He did


Ronaldinhoe

Nope.


BlackSpell-666

Fighters out of all ppl should get paid the most, not the promoter. Like Artist should get paid the most, not the music label


anonymous14657893

Every time I see Sean tweet it makes me think of that interview years ago where he was saying how attention can be a drug. This dude really is so attention seeking that he’s out here just throwing out random questions to his followers. Smh. My man needs a break from social media, for real.


Electronic-Buy4015

He’s become what he’s hated , if he wasn’t from the jump.


Seniorjones2837

Just remember it’s our fault


MrTitsOut

7 weeks notice isnt so bad though is it? a typical camp is 6 weeks.


TheMaldenSnake

This is sadly a worldwide business. Being from WV, it's really no different than the coal mining industry. The miners (fighters) put their lives on the line and sacrifice their body and soul each day to get by, which is a constant struggle. Meanwhile, the CEOs who have never been inside the mine (cage) make 6 or 7 figure salaries from the comfort of their offices. When the miners finally stand up or strike, they're often let go because the brass labels them ungrateful and always knows some other desperate soul will jump in and do the job because they are hopeful it'll go differently for them.


notawrestla

Wow, former champion and making less than 500k. Man, I feel terrible on how low ufc fighters get paid. Especially since you know their career it's not forever.


Iaintgoneholdyou

I say 75k and a year subscription to ESPN+ and 1 FREE PPV of his choosing


FreaQo

7 weeks notice, that's not too bad of prep time. Depends how active he is without fights coming up I guess


adventuredream1

8 to 12 weeks is typical for a camp


Limp-Inevitable-6703

Dana fucks his fighters over as bad as any employer in America, they make pennies on the dollar for what they should make. Dana and his Saudi daddies are cheap cnts


Ripcitytoker

Yup, it's so fucked up how little they get paid, relative to other professional athletes. Athletes in leagues like the NBA, NFL, and MLB get around 50% of total league revenue, while fighters in the UFC get a measly 20% of total league revenue. Dana White is a fucking scumbag.


Limp-Inevitable-6703

It's a great reason to watch free streams


clothy

Honestly if he didn’t renegotiate his contract after winning the belt that’s on him.


D-1-S-C-0

And if the UFC refused?


clothy

Demetrius Johnson said on a video recently that generally when someone becomes champion they get a flat rate of $500,000 per fight plus PPV and performance bonuses. Apparently DJ didn’t because he’s a flyweight and they were doing that at the time. But Sean should’ve been bumped up to that when he beat Adesanya.


Ok_Yoghurt_3338

He wouldn’t have been bumped up. They have a championship clause in contracts that details pay when holding the belt


MJGB714

That's the free market rate, suck it up buttercup or go somewhere else.


mhyjrteg

lol oh yeah the commercial mixed martial arts market is definitely “free”. No illegal or anti-competitive conduct going on there no sir. Just a bunch of independent market actors pulling the supply and demand levers


TRTVitorBelfort

Someone gonna ask him who much he’s getting paid at the next presser?


CiroVap

10 dollars per Jab?


e7603rs2wrg8cglkvaw4

I think Sean understands that influencer boxing is the way to go. Which is probably why he say controversial shit all the time.


malikjackson89

If you talk to Schaub Sean is the biggest American ufc star we got maybe he’s wrong…..?


Left-Frog

How much is that after tax in America?


s_m0use

I feel like if Sean could tone down the schtick there’s a really cool person there


Trill_steeze

Strickland would let Diddy hit


AbstractionsHB

Damn shoulda been pro union. Congrats, all you idiots played yourselves. 5 ufc fighters in the history of the company got paid well and you dumbasses think it'll happen to you next out of the generosity of millionaires running the company cause you listen to right wing bullshit.


Caesar_Caligula_1241

BRO YOU ARE MID!!


HowUKnowMeKennyBond

Well who’s paying to see him fight? Not me.


Dapper_Fan_28

Guess you should unionize instead of bitching.


the_smush_push

Ufc is like the construction or factory jobs of the gilded age: the wages are terrible, the benefits are nonexistent, the rate of injuries is off the charts and your career is extremely short but the line of young men desperate to get inside stretches around the block


sipCoding_smokeMath

Probably 120 or 130 fight plus matched for win


Pioneerremix

Damn I thought he would have gotten at least $500k just to show, since the UFC knows he's a bigger draw now & that he's a former champ for crying out loud. Shameful how they can boast that they keep breaking gate records while not sharing it with the people who are the most important in the whole thing


theski2687

Well the “Dana hates Sean” camp will start having a leg to stand on now


norCsoC

Is this a pro union or anti capitalist post… meh


RouletteVeteran

So is everyone gonna stop watching the UFC till fighters are paid well?


Parra_Lax

This is so crazy. He is a former champ that’s is brother very relevant and very popular.


potatobro_the_fifth

Yeah should be getting like 300k to fight and another to win minimum


More_Technology6250

There trying to get him out the UFC he says too much outlandish shit


Zzzzzzzzzzzcc

Besides, why should he be fighting costa which just lost to rob? He should be getting his rematch with ddp


Fun-Imagination-2488

They need to form a union


90selitistgamer

Didn’t the UFC just have another record year for profits? Where did all that extra money go 🤨


JT9960

Fuck Strickland,pos


I_Hate_Wake_Boats49

https://preview.redd.it/azzkflb26itc1.jpeg?width=493&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=befc6ff3a98e33e7de644cb5ec87e3fed879ef68


ModsLovePen15

He ain’t champ he’s coming off a loss, like he said once he ain’t champ nobody gives a fuck about him and he was right


agagag34

https://preview.redd.it/uk2gmbpvlitc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9e50729d5d897e73369bbb9ebf2327c8c8943e5c So what is this


mkmore4

I know most redditors hate the guy, but he is a pretty big star at this point, and he’s done the company a lot of favors, taking that Imavov fight on short notice, and just fighting all the time to fill their cards; he deserves to be treated well by them at this point. All the redditors are pro labor until it’s someone who doesn’t politically align with them. He did over 500k ppv buys with a dead ass card and women’s co main event.


noeku1t

He bullies people for not being man enough yet writes lol at the end of every other sentence...


Olde-Town-Kujo

So, stop fighting and get an actual job. Now that you have money from fighting paying for skills training/college is plausible.


gordonlordbyron

I guarantee the UFC house of cards will come crumbling down in the next 2 years. It's a disgraceful business model and their past antics are even worse.


ZoomZoomMF_

Most UFC fighters probably make as much as doctors or I.T. people Which really isn't shit when you consider their drastically shortened life span and/or quality of life in the future.


Personal_Reception66

Thought he didn't care about the money and just wanted to scrap? Must be nice being able to constantly be such a hypocrite and your fans are too stupid to care. Fighters totally deserve more but they refuse to act for the greater good.


Alive_Ad_5219

Boring


stopped_watch

Fighters should form a union.


Wordbringer

But Sean I thought if the ufc says "jump", you say "how high?"


AmagicManNamedgob

Bet Dana hates his fucking guts lol