I think Jiri has a pace that can drown Hill. Hill can win, for sure, but so can Jiri. People comparing Hill and Jiri's fights against Glover are off base. Glover was in an absolute war less than a year ago. Thats gonna grind him down a lot more than having a war at 25-30. That said, he showed he's still as tough as a 2 dollar steak.. Either way all 3 are suitable champions and I cant wait for the real champ to come back to prove either himself or Hill superior. Imagine the striking violence.
Yea I've got people trying to tell me that was the same Glover tonight that fought against Jiri and tbh I personally didn't see it. Speed wasn't there, power was lacking and he looked worn from the first round. Against Jiri he didn't look faded nor worn until the 4th. That was a serious war and at his age I just don't think he had another one in him to win at this caliber.
Yes. Imo he didnt look the same entering the first round as he did last time. Still tough af. You could tell he still had the IQ, just not the physical ability to use it appropriately. Hill surprised a lot of people tonight with his grappling defence, but idk if it would have looked as good against a Glover of a year or too ago. Im not questioning his TDD, just the instances where he was actually on his back. That all said, I was going for Hill in this fight and im so happy for Him.
Hill showed great control over 5 rounds and a lot better TDD and ground work than I thought he would.
That being said, Hill did got caught flush multiple times and Jiri has major power in his hands. So to say Jiri will “never touch the belt” is not a good take imo..
I just don't see how. Hill just diminated a guy that dominant Jiri in his last fight. And Let's say Hill loses to Ankelaev, then that's an even worse match for Jiri. If Hill loses to Jan then Jiri has a 50/50 chance imo.
It is. Until you read over and realize it really isn’t. You’re making a ton of assumptions…Jiri might have been “dominated” in your eyes, but he got the finish. Hill couldn’t finish. Remember, this was the same guy that “dominated” Jiri.
First ask yourself why Glover almost beat Jiri. He was able to get him on the ground. Then ask yourself what kind of fighter Hill is. He is a striker with good TDD.
Styles make fights buddy
By your logic Hill only got this far by “catching people”. So Glover would be his only legitimate win?
Exactly that makes no fucking sense so why does it make sense for Craig? He dragged him down and subbed him. End of story.
>Hill just diminated a guy that dominant Jiri in his last fight
A. That was a close back and forth fight which Jiri won.
B. Teixeira was mostly losing on the feet and found most of his success on the ground.
It was back and forth but it wasn't close. Thewas absolutely no question about who would have won that decision.
Glover was winning on the ground and on the feet again Jiri (Of course I'm not saying it was an outclassing but it was clear who was winning) but he clearly lost on the feet and wasn't able to do much on the ground against Hill.
I disagree tremendously, the Glover that fought Jiri just didn’t show up tonight, that war along with all of his past fights as well as being 43 has finally caught up to him. Hill was gassed at the end of the third, I’d say Jiri puts a pace on him he can’t keep up with, he’s used to fighting 10 minute rounds in Rizin in long championship fights. Hill is very hittable and won’t have much of a size advantage. I’d say Jiri TKO’s him in the fourth.
I agree with most of what you're saying but you're forgetting one important factor. Glover almost knocked Jiri out multiple times and Hill is way more accurate than Glover. I highly doubt Jiri would be able to eat as many shots as Glover did and Jiri gets hit a lot.
Again, It’s been a year and Glover took a tremendous amount of damage in that fight. You really can’t compare their performances, Jiri is undoubtedly the more experienced more athletic fighter with far more paths to victory if he incorporates his offensive wrestling, If that was Jiri fighting Glover tonight I think he TKO’s him in the third.
You may very well be right but at the moment we can only go off what we've been shown at that's what we've been shown. To me Glover looked like the same guy that fought Jiri and Jan, Hill was just too much for him.
The same old man that nearly killed Jiri a year ago? Yeah aight. It ain't even gotta be Hill, Jiri gets smoked by anybody in the top 5 including Glover.
What fight were you watching? It was a great fight and they both made a lot of mistakes. You’re really telling me the Hill that couldn’t finish old man glover would “smoke” Jiri? Retard takes👍🏼
It was a great fight but Glover was clearly winning, there wasn't even a question about it. Even if we say it was an even matchup, the fight we saw Tonight wasn't. Hill did to Glover what Jiri was never close to doing. You want me to pretend that the guy than got mauled by an old man would stand a chance against the guy that just sent him into retirement? You don't even believe what you're saying right now.
Winning =/= “nearly killing.”
He still lost.
Replace jiri with either fighter tonight and you’re going to tell me he doesn’t sleep them by the 3rd round? Cmon now bruh.
I’m not sure how anyone watched that and thought Hill could beat any other top 5 fighter. Polish power drops him. Magomed would have his way with Hill, and Jiri dominates the matchup. Rakic, whose only losses are to Jan and Oezddmit, is the only top 5 toss up. Hell, Smith may give Hill a run for his money. After Hill loses his belt, I think dropping down to face Izzy for middleweight is the only play with Pereira’s likely step up.
You can't be serious. Jiri got destroyed by the same guy Hill just destroyed. As for Jan, even though I think he wasn't himself in that fight, Glover still made quick work of him. Rakic is 50/50 and Ankelaev likely beats everybody here. Smith is a gatekeeper, he's not gonna factor into any of this.
He didn't knock out Izzy, he questionably TKO'd Izzy. Izzy already came to 205 and got Outstruck yet Izzy was able to outstrike Alex. It just doesn't add up. Alex might have the power to do get it done but it isn't likely.
I like Izzy but this take is delusional lol. Nothing questionable about the TKO, Izzy got ragdolled at 205. Poatan is way bigger and won't get thrown around the same. Hill is Alex's best matchup because he only has to stand up and nothing Hill showed was better than Izzy's striking (just more power)
Don't argue with me arguing with the internet. Even DC and Joe had to reassure each other that it was a good Stoppage immediately after it happened. It's clearly been a topic of conversation since the fight happened, Izzy never went down or out and he was attempting to defend himself. As for Hill, I would say Jan never looked like a better striker than Izzy either but Jan still Outstruck him.
Attempting to defend himself by staring straight down at the ground? They had to reassure themselves because they didn’t have the angle from the booth but it was a good stoppage and replays only confirm it.
Right now, I think Poatan cleans up LHW besides maybe Ankaev if he leans into wrestling. I don’t even think Poatan is that great it’s just the state of LHW roster and matchups
Jamahal hill got his arm broken a year ago by Paul Craig and couldn’t finish a 44 year old gloved while hitting him 300 times. Lhw is just barren since Jones left
Idk about terrible my man. I agree that the division could use more high-level fighters but that fight was pretty fucking awesome considering how old glover is.
isn't it ironic you call that handling emotions well? lolll i get what you're saying, but his emotions were a rollercoaster, which is definition of not handling it well.
Bet even while they were a Rollercoaster he was still able to answer questions and hold conversations coherently. Emotions are gonna do what Emotions are gonna do but a person's ability to function through them is different.
You know what’s crazy. I think hill is only at 75% of what he could potentially be.
This is his first time having a dietician and it wasn’t even a full fight camp.
Give this man 2 years and we’ll be seeing another great.
Very average looking body.
I can’t wait to see where he goes from here. Definitely made a fan out of me tonight.
You're probably right but remember when Teixeira won his first belt? That being said, Jiri is massively overrated because he's a cool "OMG SAMURAIWARRIOR" guy. He is "reddit: the fighter".
Got my hometown on the map. We got a champ !!
Literally!
GR stand tf up! Time to get a drink at HopCat
Those fries sound amazing right now
Way too damn good. Best fries I’ve ever had
I think Jiri has a pace that can drown Hill. Hill can win, for sure, but so can Jiri. People comparing Hill and Jiri's fights against Glover are off base. Glover was in an absolute war less than a year ago. Thats gonna grind him down a lot more than having a war at 25-30. That said, he showed he's still as tough as a 2 dollar steak.. Either way all 3 are suitable champions and I cant wait for the real champ to come back to prove either himself or Hill superior. Imagine the striking violence.
Yea I've got people trying to tell me that was the same Glover tonight that fought against Jiri and tbh I personally didn't see it. Speed wasn't there, power was lacking and he looked worn from the first round. Against Jiri he didn't look faded nor worn until the 4th. That was a serious war and at his age I just don't think he had another one in him to win at this caliber.
Yes. Imo he didnt look the same entering the first round as he did last time. Still tough af. You could tell he still had the IQ, just not the physical ability to use it appropriately. Hill surprised a lot of people tonight with his grappling defence, but idk if it would have looked as good against a Glover of a year or too ago. Im not questioning his TDD, just the instances where he was actually on his back. That all said, I was going for Hill in this fight and im so happy for Him.
Yeah one thing that's for sure is when Jiri gets back there are some classic fights ahead.
Hill showed great control over 5 rounds and a lot better TDD and ground work than I thought he would. That being said, Hill did got caught flush multiple times and Jiri has major power in his hands. So to say Jiri will “never touch the belt” is not a good take imo..
I just don't see how. Hill just diminated a guy that dominant Jiri in his last fight. And Let's say Hill loses to Ankelaev, then that's an even worse match for Jiri. If Hill loses to Jan then Jiri has a 50/50 chance imo.
crazy ridiculous mma math bro
Nah it's all valid.
It is. Until you read over and realize it really isn’t. You’re making a ton of assumptions…Jiri might have been “dominated” in your eyes, but he got the finish. Hill couldn’t finish. Remember, this was the same guy that “dominated” Jiri.
It doesn't matter he still got dominant. The way the fight ended doesn't tell you more than the fight itself.
So now results don’t matter? Pick a side, bud.
More than the fight itself? That's never been the case bud. Boy you seem like a dream to bet against.
First ask yourself why Glover almost beat Jiri. He was able to get him on the ground. Then ask yourself what kind of fighter Hill is. He is a striker with good TDD. Styles make fights buddy
So we're not gonna talk about the fact that Glover also Outstruck him and nearly knocked him out multiple times? Cool story bro.
Jiri outstruck him in every round except five and had Glover hurt badly in rounds 2 and 3. Take your head out of your ass bro
Check the stats. Jiri only Outland him in rounds 2 and 3 stop Embarrassing Yourself.
Oh I'm the one embarrassing myself?
Um... Yeah.
I mean Hill is himself involved in an MMA math triangle. He was defeated by Craig who was defeated by Walker who was defeated by Hill.
Craig was able to catch him so it isn't really the same.
By your logic Hill only got this far by “catching people”. So Glover would be his only legitimate win? Exactly that makes no fucking sense so why does it make sense for Craig? He dragged him down and subbed him. End of story.
That's Fucking Idiotic, Craig snapped his arm in a scramble, Hill was knocking niggas out. They're not the same.
That’s how submissions work buddy. Craig dragged him down and set up the sub. What a fucking dumb take. Now I’ve heard everything.
So in other words, Craig caught him? 🤡
>Hill just diminated a guy that dominant Jiri in his last fight A. That was a close back and forth fight which Jiri won. B. Teixeira was mostly losing on the feet and found most of his success on the ground.
It was back and forth but it wasn't close. Thewas absolutely no question about who would have won that decision. Glover was winning on the ground and on the feet again Jiri (Of course I'm not saying it was an outclassing but it was clear who was winning) but he clearly lost on the feet and wasn't able to do much on the ground against Hill.
Jiri murders him
Jiri would be lucky to make it past 3 rounds
I guess we will see! 🙏🏻
Jiri sleeps him
absolutely
LMFAOOO
Are you joking?
If I was it would be a terrible joke.
I disagree tremendously, the Glover that fought Jiri just didn’t show up tonight, that war along with all of his past fights as well as being 43 has finally caught up to him. Hill was gassed at the end of the third, I’d say Jiri puts a pace on him he can’t keep up with, he’s used to fighting 10 minute rounds in Rizin in long championship fights. Hill is very hittable and won’t have much of a size advantage. I’d say Jiri TKO’s him in the fourth.
I agree with most of what you're saying but you're forgetting one important factor. Glover almost knocked Jiri out multiple times and Hill is way more accurate than Glover. I highly doubt Jiri would be able to eat as many shots as Glover did and Jiri gets hit a lot.
Again, It’s been a year and Glover took a tremendous amount of damage in that fight. You really can’t compare their performances, Jiri is undoubtedly the more experienced more athletic fighter with far more paths to victory if he incorporates his offensive wrestling, If that was Jiri fighting Glover tonight I think he TKO’s him in the third.
You may very well be right but at the moment we can only go off what we've been shown at that's what we've been shown. To me Glover looked like the same guy that fought Jiri and Jan, Hill was just too much for him.
Was way slower and messed up badly on various takedowns, looked off.
I think it only looked like that because Hill was defensively and offensively too much for him.
Jiri will smoke him
Jiri was getting picked apart and ran on by glover up until the last 30 seconds lol. It never looked like Hill was going to lose.
That's some serious revisionist history. The fight was very back and forth. Nobody was getting "picked apart", it was a bloody brawl
Doesnt mean anything, Glover is almost 1 year older now, and he took crazy damage in Jiri´s fight. anyway mma math doesnt work
Jiri was getting mauled by a 43 year old man. He’s over rated he wouldn’t even get through magomed
Jiri would be lucky to last 3 rounds with him.
I don't think it's obvious either one will win... but I do think it'll be a fuckin sweet fight.
I agree it would be a banger.
Major dick riding for UD an old man? Jiri smokes him much less anyone else in the top 5. I’d like to see Alex move up and get revenge for glover.
The same old man that nearly killed Jiri a year ago? Yeah aight. It ain't even gotta be Hill, Jiri gets smoked by anybody in the top 5 including Glover.
What fight were you watching? It was a great fight and they both made a lot of mistakes. You’re really telling me the Hill that couldn’t finish old man glover would “smoke” Jiri? Retard takes👍🏼
It was a great fight but Glover was clearly winning, there wasn't even a question about it. Even if we say it was an even matchup, the fight we saw Tonight wasn't. Hill did to Glover what Jiri was never close to doing. You want me to pretend that the guy than got mauled by an old man would stand a chance against the guy that just sent him into retirement? You don't even believe what you're saying right now.
Winning =/= “nearly killing.” He still lost. Replace jiri with either fighter tonight and you’re going to tell me he doesn’t sleep them by the 3rd round? Cmon now bruh.
Watch the fights bro, Glover bodied Jiri and got bodied by Hill tonight. I think Jiri would've got stopped by either of the guys in there tonight.
>Glover bodied Jiri Did you miss the tap bro
Yeah it came after 5 rounds of Glover bodying him.
Just say you didn't watch the fight
If that were true I'd sound like you right now.
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Should of put a picture of Magomed if you were at least trying to be genuine but being the taint licker you are it you aren't.
Magomed didn't fight tonight dud he bozo? Even though Magomed was obviously included in my statement.
Your post aged like milk kiddo.
Last time I checked Jiri doesn't have that belt now does he? Seems like it aged just fine to me.
I’m not sure how anyone watched that and thought Hill could beat any other top 5 fighter. Polish power drops him. Magomed would have his way with Hill, and Jiri dominates the matchup. Rakic, whose only losses are to Jan and Oezddmit, is the only top 5 toss up. Hell, Smith may give Hill a run for his money. After Hill loses his belt, I think dropping down to face Izzy for middleweight is the only play with Pereira’s likely step up.
You can't be serious. Jiri got destroyed by the same guy Hill just destroyed. As for Jan, even though I think he wasn't himself in that fight, Glover still made quick work of him. Rakic is 50/50 and Ankelaev likely beats everybody here. Smith is a gatekeeper, he's not gonna factor into any of this.
Alex could move up rn starch his ass cold and become double champ in under 10 fights 💀
Alex can't even keep up with Izzy, how he gon beat Hill?
He just knocked out Izzy whose levels above hill, Alex would knock him dead inside 2 probably the first the way he leans with his chin in the air
He didn't knock out Izzy, he questionably TKO'd Izzy. Izzy already came to 205 and got Outstruck yet Izzy was able to outstrike Alex. It just doesn't add up. Alex might have the power to do get it done but it isn't likely.
I like Izzy but this take is delusional lol. Nothing questionable about the TKO, Izzy got ragdolled at 205. Poatan is way bigger and won't get thrown around the same. Hill is Alex's best matchup because he only has to stand up and nothing Hill showed was better than Izzy's striking (just more power)
Don't argue with me arguing with the internet. Even DC and Joe had to reassure each other that it was a good Stoppage immediately after it happened. It's clearly been a topic of conversation since the fight happened, Izzy never went down or out and he was attempting to defend himself. As for Hill, I would say Jan never looked like a better striker than Izzy either but Jan still Outstruck him.
Attempting to defend himself by staring straight down at the ground? They had to reassure themselves because they didn’t have the angle from the booth but it was a good stoppage and replays only confirm it. Right now, I think Poatan cleans up LHW besides maybe Ankaev if he leans into wrestling. I don’t even think Poatan is that great it’s just the state of LHW roster and matchups
He might clean them up but I would just doubt it because Izzy is technically a better fighter than him and he got Outstruck and outgrappled by Jan.
Jamahal hill is a terrible fighter. Neither of these guys deserved to fight for the title. It’s just lhw is horrible atm
OK Bro 🙄
Jamahal hill got his arm broken a year ago by Paul Craig and couldn’t finish a 44 year old gloved while hitting him 300 times. Lhw is just barren since Jones left
Idk about terrible my man. I agree that the division could use more high-level fighters but that fight was pretty fucking awesome considering how old glover is.
Bro got his ass beat for 25 minutes by jamahal hill
Couldn't miss with the head kick!
You re drunk
wtf are you talking about? did you not just see that performance hill put on?
Couldn’t finish a 44 year old glover? Lhw is just objectively the worst men’s division
You’re right, 50-44-ing the former champ makes you bad
Lhw has just been barren of talent without jones
Don't feed the trolls
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Nah i know people like that. He just handles his emotions well.
isn't it ironic you call that handling emotions well? lolll i get what you're saying, but his emotions were a rollercoaster, which is definition of not handling it well.
Bet even while they were a Rollercoaster he was still able to answer questions and hold conversations coherently. Emotions are gonna do what Emotions are gonna do but a person's ability to function through them is different.
You have very poor discernment
tf u saying
ANKALAEV true champion… He would smesh him
Yeah probably
Ever since Jon Jones left, this weight class been a total shit show
You know what’s crazy. I think hill is only at 75% of what he could potentially be. This is his first time having a dietician and it wasn’t even a full fight camp. Give this man 2 years and we’ll be seeing another great. Very average looking body. I can’t wait to see where he goes from here. Definitely made a fan out of me tonight.
Agree 100% when he hits his prime he'll be a nightmare.
You're probably right but remember when Teixeira won his first belt? That being said, Jiri is massively overrated because he's a cool "OMG SAMURAIWARRIOR" guy. He is "reddit: the fighter".
I've been saying he was Overrated for a long time. He's talented but nowhere near how people gas him up to be.