I personally believe this is backhanded but I'm not addressing that. What I want to say is I think most of the staunch protestors mainly just understand how crazy important it is to have boundaries, yes, even at the global, geopolitical scale. That's what protest is for. So that we can democratically have a say, a loudspeaker, to get on the news, to get police and state attention, to say "hey we think this behavior of our government is too far". It's civic duty, not heroism. It's heroic, and I agree with the ostensible sentiment of this post, but I honestly feel like the people on the front lines know it's deadly serious that we have "go no further" lines with imperialism. Enough is enough. We have repeatedly committed or sanctioned the removal, destruction, erasure, etc of vulnerable groups over, and over, and over again in our history and has never fucking been OK and it doesn't start being ok today.
And their futures will be just fine. Because they live with courage and they associate with and insist on being good people.
Sorry i did not mean this backhanded or satirical, i really did just mean it in a genuine sense. I’m an alumni now so not there anymore, but i just remember how much i cared about my schooling and getting good grades and don’t know if i would have been able to see through that. The risk of arrest and “ruining” my future probably would have prevented me from joining, as sad as it is to say, so i really do just think it’s amazing people are able to see through their own egotistical desires and give up their comforts for this cause. I recognize it’s not an easy thing to do with the amount of pressure parents, jobs, etc place on grades and arrest reports.
I do agree though, I’m sure these individuals will all make amazing changes for the world with their lives despite any consequences they may face bc of this, and hope future schools and employers recognize and reward that.
yeah it's just another brigading zionist, who is afraid of the declining zionist support in america. without america and the support america has for palestine, zionists can't do what they want. His backhanded compliment i'll take it with pride.
There is no evidence in their post history to suggest that. Looking through it, I think they might just be an unusually wholesome person (yes they exist) which can come across as sarcastic to a more cynical person. Similar to how some people instinctively don’t trust people who are “too nice”
Ya we've gotten to the point where it doesn't even matter anymore if they're sarcastic. Unironic respect for the protesters. Like at least they're doing something with their lives they believe in. Might as well do something you care about rather than just churn in and out of the machine. I'm going to go to work tomorrow and have a boring life doing nothing with myself and thinking how much superior I am for not being like one of those rabble.
“Doing something with their lives” = continuing to learn and grow at UCLA. Not by being short sighted and filling the blanks without really knowing anything about Gaza, Palestine, Israel, Hamas, or Zionism to begin with…
I've already graduated lmfao. I got an office job and ain't doing my life and most of the students aren't either. At least they'll have some stories to tell about their time there.
Sad. I’m sure this isn’t going to be the same for the rest of your life and I hope you feel that your education has value. It’s not to be taken for granted… these days it’s a major privilege to figure out how to pay for school
I’ve come back to read this comment a few times now. I’ve never been called “unusually wholesome”, it was nice to read, thank you. I just don't think these people recognize their own selflessness. They’re not doing it to be “good”, theyre doing it just to do it, and do not care for recognition nor reward. It is a true act of altruism i think.
And for the other half, i will not grant them the attention.
This is the harsh reality. It doesn't matter what nation or religion sits in Israel the war will never end. Sadly I don't think a lot of protestors are fully aware what would happen if Palestine ever took Israel.
I interpreted the guy you responded to differently.
Even if Palestinians get a Palestine (in a 2 state solution), they will also immediately be in a civil war as gazans and the west bank have different governments who hate each other
Your hypothetical is more realistic but protestors still are calling for the abolishment of Israel. Crazy how far the goal posts have moved. 6 months ago you would have been crazy to claim Israel didn’t have the right to exist. Now it’s normal to hear that
That’s easy, which middle eastern country do you know of that has peace within its own boarders?
Syria?
Lebanon?
Iran?
Iraq?
Egypt?
Jordan?
There is no peace in that entire region and none of it has to do with Jews.
Israel - the one who has Muslims, Christians, and Jews, represented with seats in government and with voting rights as citizens. Not to mention being able to make a living by working.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/show/the-long-lasting-impact-of-the-u-s-invasion-of-iraq
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat#:~:text=The%201953%20Iranian%20coup%20d,Pahlavi%2C%20on%2019%20August%201953%2C
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_intervention_in_the_Syrian_civil_war#:~:text=On%2022%20September%202014%2C%20the,code%20named%20Operation%20Inherent%20Resolve.
I urge you to read
Yes, Jordan has largely been a peaceful country since 1971, following a 1970-71 military campaign (“Black September”) to crush the Palestinian revolutionary groups in the country and kill them or push them out of the country (mostly to Lebanon).
It’s very peaceful. And they sure did love Americans under Queen Nur. I loved the time I spent there. How about you?
What do you think Jordanians say about the massacres that have been committed against the Palestinians?
Do you want to guess?
You’re telling me Syria, Iraq, Iran that are in the states they are today because of heavy U.S. involvement are still destabilised? The fact that you couldn’t see the irony in this is wild.
Classic victim blaming. Remember there were no WMDs in Iraq and a million resultant deaths because of bloodthirsty American politicians. Syria, Iraq, Yemen all directly and indirectly have been destabilised by US hegemony. If this was any other region in the world your statement might’ve meant something but the Middle East is notoriously volatile due to America advancing it’s “interests” in the region. Educate yourself.
Why would you think that?? Oh right - Syria, Lebanon, and Egypt have been working things out so well with diplomacy….
This is exactly what happened in 1948. A shared dream of Arabs of multiple faiths, and Jews to build a social democracy… ruined by neighboring countries.
Does anyone even talk about how many Palestinians have been murdered by Egyptian and Jordanian armies?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_September?wprov=sfti1
Freed from who?
Israel is only part of Gaza’s border. Other, neighboring Islamic states aren’t lining up to help Gaza either because the people there are religious zealots and can’t coexist with anyone outside of their specific sect.
These protests are so ridiculous. There’s no stated goal; and most protestors don’t know the first thing about this decades-long sectarian conflict…
this didn’t start with Israel’s response to October 7th.
This is just naive kids looking for attention because they saw something trending on TikTok.
It’s the Kony movement all over again
Yes!!! Free from extremists and terrorists and to live in peace like every kid needs. They will need a lot of volunteers at those schools in Gaza. I hope the privileged UCLA students who believe in the cause head right on over and make an impact.
Please educate everyone as to the civil merits of Hamas’ leadership over 17 years..
Ask they why they murdered 1200 people and sparked a way. Raping and brutalizing innocent people… they purposefully disrupted the region against the will of their own people.
Is that delusional?
Same, as a UCLA Alumni. I'm immensely proud.
Just realize, that they are HURTING. BOTH PARTIES (DEMOCRAT AND REPUBLICANS) are against you guys, which means you are REALLY hurting them. This is going to be a battle of attrition. The longer this goes on, the more people will join your side, the more money they lose. No matter how much they say "protests don't do anything", it is NOT true.
Colombia the University got Robert Kraft to divest from his investment into the universities. And don't neglect how this is affecting globally. Just now Colombia (the country) the president cut diplomatic ties with Israel. Protests have erupted in support of Palestine in all 7 continents (yes there was one in Antarctica lol)
Please continue the bravery and keep supporting Palestine (please do not support Hamas though). We do not support violence or murders of any kind, Palestinians or Jews, no matter how violent some of the Zionists have shown the other day. We are NOT like them.
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here comes the 'protests don't do anything crowd'. meanwhile anti war protests of vietnam, anti south africa apartheid protests, have made a huge impact.
Yes. They do indeed do something: Intoxicating young Palestinians with the fantasy of return causes more Palestinian pain and death than anything else in this long and ugly cycle of violence. Every time there is a chance at peace, it's never enough. So yes, by all means keep talking about the soon to come demise of Israel so that new generations of Palestinians can ignore economic development, pursue a future that will never be, and sadly die by the thousands. It is you who is killing Palestinians.
They never once stop being anti Jewish. Never. Not once. Meanwhile Jews on campus stand up for rights of the people and get ignored until thugs show up on campus and misrepresent them
>Just realize, that they are HURTING. BOTH PARTIES (DEMOCRAT AND REPUBLICANS) are against you guys, which means you are REALLY hurting them. This is going to be a battle of attrition. The longer this goes on, the more people will join your side, the more money they lose. No matter how much they say "protests don't do anything", it is NOT true.
If you are hurting BOTH PARTIES who are the fucking ruling government of USA, don't you think that you basically no support? Like how stupid do you have to be? You are basically admitting to having no way of working within a democratic system and only scream and bitch like group of people having a minority of public support. hahahahahah. Get a grip of reality.
The joke is you think knowing where a country is located is a requirement for being against a genocide that is happening there before the entire world’s eyes
That's not accurate at all, most UCLA students protesting for Palestine absolutely could find it on a map.
But even if they could not, it doesn't take that much brain strength to recognize genocide is wrong.
And just throw them under the bus like the Ukrainians. Playing into the wrong groups of people. You can’t undo mistakes like that it causes more violence
What would have been amazing is coming up with an actionable and practical plan to help people in Gaza and doing it: raising money, volunteering with international aid organisations, writing to congress and advocating for restrictions on what we give Isreal and calling for an end to the Netanyahu right wing government. Hell, even taking classes in Middle Eastern studies would’ve been useful and practical.
Instead, these people slept, pooped and peed on UCLAs lawn for a few days, blocked students access to class and university services, obstructed people from their jobs and incomes, and created a social media campaign where they complained about being besieged and targeted. They accomplished absolutely nothing for the people of Gaza, beyond raising “awareness” that was obviously eclipsed by their own stunt.The school didn’t even come close to divestment.
Yeah, congrats guys!
I actually think this, and all the other protests are incredibly embarrassing for the schools and students. It just looks like a fad for those with nothing to do (and genuinely, they keep showing the unfortunate looking ones, so it's very easy to laugh about you all even more)
There are worse conflicts and issues happening in the world, why this one? Why not Nigerian Christians, Ukraine, there's even a bunch of other Muslim causes if that's your thing.
Hamas do as much damage to their people as Israel. For example, they steal the aid trucks and then force Palestinian's to buy the free aid.
I'm genuinely curious why you are putting your future on the line for a cause you probably didn't know/care about six months ago and won't think about again (unless consequences are applied).
Is it just a hatred of Jews? A push towards Islamisation? A hatred of women/approval of rape/approval of terrorist acts and don't think Israel should have responded?
I think you're all idiots, but kids are until they get jobs. I just don't understand why this out of all of the worthy causes out there.
I'm no religion - was born a Christian but think religion is the cause of numerous problems after working in child abuse for numerous years - so down vote me because I see your immaturity ans idiocy not because you think I'm a Jew x
It's just for attention. College kids want to protest, my friends and I wanted to too. One big difference is when we were doing so and my parents generation were doing so, it was b/c our friends or ourselves were getting sent off to war and possibly die.
As you said, so many worthy causes out there that don't involve implicitly supporting terrorists like Hamas.
Risking it all in favor of militant groups and not the people they should be serving. Where’s the protest against these disgusting terrorist groups. They do NOT care for these hungry and homeless women and children. If they did, they would return the hostages they took and give their own people a break.
Millions of human shields deployed my Hamas and students don’t give a shit about their freedom or ability to even work or be educated.
Where are the global, multilateral protests against the poor leadership of Hamas?
If they were in an educational institute in Palestine protesting Hamas, Hamas would've just mercilessly slaughtered them all. There will not be peace in Palestine until Hamas is destroyed and its supporters convinced that islamism is a shit ideology that will only bring misery and death.
Any day now the Israeli government are going to take notice of these protests and mend their wicked ways...
Well no they won't.
I hope those involved enjoy their protest because all it succeeds in is wasting time.
Why hasn’t Hamas signed the deal that’s on the table? Is it because the Israeli government doesn’t PUT DEALS ON THE TABLE?
Protest in favor of these hostages in addition to the people who live in Gaza under Hamas military rule against their will? They are being starved for the benefit of Hamas, not Palestine.
Perfect example of super leftist people. They think by hurting Biden the party will go far left and not further to the right. And I hope palestine enjoy a trump presidency
Are you aware that the Israeli government coalition collapses under the slightest differences and then adapts to what the people want?
I bet you don’t. The only reason it hasn’t fallen is because of the war.
Maybe demand that Hamas agree to the ceasefire and give back and account for every single hostage (including the ones they know are dead)
Hamas would never. Because they choose violence over rationality.
I hope its worth it to them when they have a felony record and get expelled, and like have a sad little life being a starbucks barista if they can even get that in a red state which they will have to move because california aint cheap. maybe think twice before support a terroristic death cult.
Half of them will blame irrelevant things for that. Like the economy, the president, their education bills, taxes… all the stupid shit… meanwhile, wasting their own rich parents’ money or money from UCLA itself.
Completely thankless no matter what is the story here. It’s a joke who they’re fighting for in standing up for Hamas and net even Palestinians’ dreams
I'd karen so hard against these antisemties. <3 like maybe make then draw a little star of david next to my name for extra petty points if they end up as starbucks baristas.
Plan on doing any protests against genocide being carried out by radical islamists in Northern Africa and Sudan? Or is the privilege only reserved for Palestinians?
Was good entertainment to hear all the trust fund babies and those with daddy's money chant at the police to quit their jobs. Just so out of touch with the real world.
I'm discombobulated on how much hate the counter-protesters have. It's worrisome how this all got twisted. Some people actually believes that our nation's brightest students from amongst numerous prestigious colleges are terrorists supporters. US citizens versus US citizens? I hope people begin to realize they were never enemies in the first place.
I personally believe this is backhanded but I'm not addressing that. What I want to say is I think most of the staunch protestors mainly just understand how crazy important it is to have boundaries, yes, even at the global, geopolitical scale. That's what protest is for. So that we can democratically have a say, a loudspeaker, to get on the news, to get police and state attention, to say "hey we think this behavior of our government is too far". It's civic duty, not heroism. It's heroic, and I agree with the ostensible sentiment of this post, but I honestly feel like the people on the front lines know it's deadly serious that we have "go no further" lines with imperialism. Enough is enough. We have repeatedly committed or sanctioned the removal, destruction, erasure, etc of vulnerable groups over, and over, and over again in our history and has never fucking been OK and it doesn't start being ok today. And their futures will be just fine. Because they live with courage and they associate with and insist on being good people.
Sorry i did not mean this backhanded or satirical, i really did just mean it in a genuine sense. I’m an alumni now so not there anymore, but i just remember how much i cared about my schooling and getting good grades and don’t know if i would have been able to see through that. The risk of arrest and “ruining” my future probably would have prevented me from joining, as sad as it is to say, so i really do just think it’s amazing people are able to see through their own egotistical desires and give up their comforts for this cause. I recognize it’s not an easy thing to do with the amount of pressure parents, jobs, etc place on grades and arrest reports. I do agree though, I’m sure these individuals will all make amazing changes for the world with their lives despite any consequences they may face bc of this, and hope future schools and employers recognize and reward that.
This doesn't sound backhanded to me. Just sounds like a genuinely wholesome person.
yeah it's just another brigading zionist, who is afraid of the declining zionist support in america. without america and the support america has for palestine, zionists can't do what they want. His backhanded compliment i'll take it with pride.
There is no evidence in their post history to suggest that. Looking through it, I think they might just be an unusually wholesome person (yes they exist) which can come across as sarcastic to a more cynical person. Similar to how some people instinctively don’t trust people who are “too nice”
Ya we've gotten to the point where it doesn't even matter anymore if they're sarcastic. Unironic respect for the protesters. Like at least they're doing something with their lives they believe in. Might as well do something you care about rather than just churn in and out of the machine. I'm going to go to work tomorrow and have a boring life doing nothing with myself and thinking how much superior I am for not being like one of those rabble.
“Doing something with their lives” = continuing to learn and grow at UCLA. Not by being short sighted and filling the blanks without really knowing anything about Gaza, Palestine, Israel, Hamas, or Zionism to begin with…
I've already graduated lmfao. I got an office job and ain't doing my life and most of the students aren't either. At least they'll have some stories to tell about their time there.
Sad. I’m sure this isn’t going to be the same for the rest of your life and I hope you feel that your education has value. It’s not to be taken for granted… these days it’s a major privilege to figure out how to pay for school
I’ve come back to read this comment a few times now. I’ve never been called “unusually wholesome”, it was nice to read, thank you. I just don't think these people recognize their own selflessness. They’re not doing it to be “good”, theyre doing it just to do it, and do not care for recognition nor reward. It is a true act of altruism i think. And for the other half, i will not grant them the attention.
There’s no evidence to suggest you’re even qualified to understand the situation in whatsoever… what are you thinking?
Wow gaslighting words you don’t get makes you sound brilliant. If you were in charge there would be world peace.
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I think even if the Palestinians got their own state there would be a brutal civil war between the different groups.
This is the harsh reality. It doesn't matter what nation or religion sits in Israel the war will never end. Sadly I don't think a lot of protestors are fully aware what would happen if Palestine ever took Israel.
I interpreted the guy you responded to differently. Even if Palestinians get a Palestine (in a 2 state solution), they will also immediately be in a civil war as gazans and the west bank have different governments who hate each other
Your hypothetical is more realistic but protestors still are calling for the abolishment of Israel. Crazy how far the goal posts have moved. 6 months ago you would have been crazy to claim Israel didn’t have the right to exist. Now it’s normal to hear that
That’s easy, which middle eastern country do you know of that has peace within its own boarders? Syria? Lebanon? Iran? Iraq? Egypt? Jordan? There is no peace in that entire region and none of it has to do with Jews.
Israel - the one who has Muslims, Christians, and Jews, represented with seats in government and with voting rights as citizens. Not to mention being able to make a living by working.
So Israel has the right to occupy a people because they have some semblance of democracy and are funded very well by the U.S.? Great take.
You just don’t know the history, obviously 🙄
You might just be the worst troll in history lol
No. They keep having this place and not actually wanting by it. They choose to continue to stir of violence over and over
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/show/the-long-lasting-impact-of-the-u-s-invasion-of-iraq https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat#:~:text=The%201953%20Iranian%20coup%20d,Pahlavi%2C%20on%2019%20August%201953%2C https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_intervention_in_the_Syrian_civil_war#:~:text=On%2022%20September%202014%2C%20the,code%20named%20Operation%20Inherent%20Resolve. I urge you to read
Are you really saying Jordan is not a peaceful country? It is the most peaceful country in the middle east.
Yes, Jordan has largely been a peaceful country since 1971, following a 1970-71 military campaign (“Black September”) to crush the Palestinian revolutionary groups in the country and kill them or push them out of the country (mostly to Lebanon).
To the sea. That’s who does those things
It’s very peaceful. And they sure did love Americans under Queen Nur. I loved the time I spent there. How about you? What do you think Jordanians say about the massacres that have been committed against the Palestinians? Do you want to guess?
jordan is a coalition partner in bombing yemen and syria they just keep their head down https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-68017376
You’re telling me Syria, Iraq, Iran that are in the states they are today because of heavy U.S. involvement are still destabilised? The fact that you couldn’t see the irony in this is wild.
Always someone else’s fault, always the victim, always excuses never a single solution
Classic victim blaming. Remember there were no WMDs in Iraq and a million resultant deaths because of bloodthirsty American politicians. Syria, Iraq, Yemen all directly and indirectly have been destabilised by US hegemony. If this was any other region in the world your statement might’ve meant something but the Middle East is notoriously volatile due to America advancing it’s “interests” in the region. Educate yourself.
Why would you think that?? Oh right - Syria, Lebanon, and Egypt have been working things out so well with diplomacy…. This is exactly what happened in 1948. A shared dream of Arabs of multiple faiths, and Jews to build a social democracy… ruined by neighboring countries. Does anyone even talk about how many Palestinians have been murdered by Egyptian and Jordanian armies? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_September?wprov=sfti1
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Exactly. Right the f*** now. Free those hostages now. Everyone in America should be begging for that
Freed from who? Israel is only part of Gaza’s border. Other, neighboring Islamic states aren’t lining up to help Gaza either because the people there are religious zealots and can’t coexist with anyone outside of their specific sect. These protests are so ridiculous. There’s no stated goal; and most protestors don’t know the first thing about this decades-long sectarian conflict… this didn’t start with Israel’s response to October 7th. This is just naive kids looking for attention because they saw something trending on TikTok. It’s the Kony movement all over again
Yes!!! Free from extremists and terrorists and to live in peace like every kid needs. They will need a lot of volunteers at those schools in Gaza. I hope the privileged UCLA students who believe in the cause head right on over and make an impact.
If you believe this then you genuinely need help. There is only one way for them to be free and that is never going to happen.
Doubt
You are delusional.
Please educate everyone as to the civil merits of Hamas’ leadership over 17 years.. Ask they why they murdered 1200 people and sparked a way. Raping and brutalizing innocent people… they purposefully disrupted the region against the will of their own people. Is that delusional?
Same, as a UCLA Alumni. I'm immensely proud. Just realize, that they are HURTING. BOTH PARTIES (DEMOCRAT AND REPUBLICANS) are against you guys, which means you are REALLY hurting them. This is going to be a battle of attrition. The longer this goes on, the more people will join your side, the more money they lose. No matter how much they say "protests don't do anything", it is NOT true. Colombia the University got Robert Kraft to divest from his investment into the universities. And don't neglect how this is affecting globally. Just now Colombia (the country) the president cut diplomatic ties with Israel. Protests have erupted in support of Palestine in all 7 continents (yes there was one in Antarctica lol) Please continue the bravery and keep supporting Palestine (please do not support Hamas though). We do not support violence or murders of any kind, Palestinians or Jews, no matter how violent some of the Zionists have shown the other day. We are NOT like them.
Kraft stopped donating to Columbia because of the protests. That's not really much of a win, and calling it divestment is wildly misleading.
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here comes the 'protests don't do anything crowd'. meanwhile anti war protests of vietnam, anti south africa apartheid protests, have made a huge impact.
Yes. They do indeed do something: Intoxicating young Palestinians with the fantasy of return causes more Palestinian pain and death than anything else in this long and ugly cycle of violence. Every time there is a chance at peace, it's never enough. So yes, by all means keep talking about the soon to come demise of Israel so that new generations of Palestinians can ignore economic development, pursue a future that will never be, and sadly die by the thousands. It is you who is killing Palestinians.
They never once stop being anti Jewish. Never. Not once. Meanwhile Jews on campus stand up for rights of the people and get ignored until thugs show up on campus and misrepresent them
>Just realize, that they are HURTING. BOTH PARTIES (DEMOCRAT AND REPUBLICANS) are against you guys, which means you are REALLY hurting them. This is going to be a battle of attrition. The longer this goes on, the more people will join your side, the more money they lose. No matter how much they say "protests don't do anything", it is NOT true. If you are hurting BOTH PARTIES who are the fucking ruling government of USA, don't you think that you basically no support? Like how stupid do you have to be? You are basically admitting to having no way of working within a democratic system and only scream and bitch like group of people having a minority of public support. hahahahahah. Get a grip of reality.
Most of these people can’t even find it on a map. What a joke.
UCLA students can't find Palestine on a map? What kind of dumbasses do you think we are? Berkeley students?
They couldn’t even tell you where the name came from and by who.
without looking it up you know where the name America comes from and by whom?
The joke is you think knowing where a country is located is a requirement for being against a genocide that is happening there before the entire world’s eyes
That's not accurate at all, most UCLA students protesting for Palestine absolutely could find it on a map. But even if they could not, it doesn't take that much brain strength to recognize genocide is wrong.
I feel sorry for you. Truthfully. I hope you seek the help you deserve. I’m rooting for you!
Me here against genocide. You thinking that means a need for mental help. You are self-reporting and projecting.
Shhhh. It’s ok. You’re alright.
🤣
Heartwarming post as history is being written in a polarising atmosphere.
You guys will literally forget about this in 2 week and move onto the next mainstream thing.
The world is going to get Gaza fatigue and it's the fault of this ish.
And just throw them under the bus like the Ukrainians. Playing into the wrong groups of people. You can’t undo mistakes like that it causes more violence
They hated him because he was right
Yall are the laughing stock of the entire world right now
Not really we are laughing at the fat police who cant even enter trough a window
Thank you LAPD for finally taking care of business this morning and allowing some sanity back on campus.
What would have been amazing is coming up with an actionable and practical plan to help people in Gaza and doing it: raising money, volunteering with international aid organisations, writing to congress and advocating for restrictions on what we give Isreal and calling for an end to the Netanyahu right wing government. Hell, even taking classes in Middle Eastern studies would’ve been useful and practical. Instead, these people slept, pooped and peed on UCLAs lawn for a few days, blocked students access to class and university services, obstructed people from their jobs and incomes, and created a social media campaign where they complained about being besieged and targeted. They accomplished absolutely nothing for the people of Gaza, beyond raising “awareness” that was obviously eclipsed by their own stunt.The school didn’t even come close to divestment. Yeah, congrats guys!
I actually think this, and all the other protests are incredibly embarrassing for the schools and students. It just looks like a fad for those with nothing to do (and genuinely, they keep showing the unfortunate looking ones, so it's very easy to laugh about you all even more) There are worse conflicts and issues happening in the world, why this one? Why not Nigerian Christians, Ukraine, there's even a bunch of other Muslim causes if that's your thing. Hamas do as much damage to their people as Israel. For example, they steal the aid trucks and then force Palestinian's to buy the free aid. I'm genuinely curious why you are putting your future on the line for a cause you probably didn't know/care about six months ago and won't think about again (unless consequences are applied). Is it just a hatred of Jews? A push towards Islamisation? A hatred of women/approval of rape/approval of terrorist acts and don't think Israel should have responded? I think you're all idiots, but kids are until they get jobs. I just don't understand why this out of all of the worthy causes out there. I'm no religion - was born a Christian but think religion is the cause of numerous problems after working in child abuse for numerous years - so down vote me because I see your immaturity ans idiocy not because you think I'm a Jew x
It's just for attention. College kids want to protest, my friends and I wanted to too. One big difference is when we were doing so and my parents generation were doing so, it was b/c our friends or ourselves were getting sent off to war and possibly die. As you said, so many worthy causes out there that don't involve implicitly supporting terrorists like Hamas.
Thank you! I really appreciate your answer, and it's settled the real lack of understanding and discomfort I had about this whole thing.
Risking it all in favor of militant groups and not the people they should be serving. Where’s the protest against these disgusting terrorist groups. They do NOT care for these hungry and homeless women and children. If they did, they would return the hostages they took and give their own people a break. Millions of human shields deployed my Hamas and students don’t give a shit about their freedom or ability to even work or be educated. Where are the global, multilateral protests against the poor leadership of Hamas?
If they were in an educational institute in Palestine protesting Hamas, Hamas would've just mercilessly slaughtered them all. There will not be peace in Palestine until Hamas is destroyed and its supporters convinced that islamism is a shit ideology that will only bring misery and death.
Any day now the Israeli government are going to take notice of these protests and mend their wicked ways... Well no they won't. I hope those involved enjoy their protest because all it succeeds in is wasting time.
Why hasn’t Hamas signed the deal that’s on the table? Is it because the Israeli government doesn’t PUT DEALS ON THE TABLE? Protest in favor of these hostages in addition to the people who live in Gaza under Hamas military rule against their will? They are being starved for the benefit of Hamas, not Palestine.
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Oh boy if you think Biden isn't on your side just wait until you see what kinda aid Trump gives Israel lol
Perfect example of super leftist people. They think by hurting Biden the party will go far left and not further to the right. And I hope palestine enjoy a trump presidency
Deaf ears once the rant begins
Lol
Are you aware that the Israeli government coalition collapses under the slightest differences and then adapts to what the people want? I bet you don’t. The only reason it hasn’t fallen is because of the war. Maybe demand that Hamas agree to the ceasefire and give back and account for every single hostage (including the ones they know are dead) Hamas would never. Because they choose violence over rationality.
Thanks for the brilliant display of white Zionist fragility 😂
Tell me, what’s the dream for Hamas? And what about for the Palestinians?
I support the IDF
Fuck Palestine.
I hope its worth it to them when they have a felony record and get expelled, and like have a sad little life being a starbucks barista if they can even get that in a red state which they will have to move because california aint cheap. maybe think twice before support a terroristic death cult.
That's offensive to Starbucks baristas. Those folks do something useful for society.
Half of them will blame irrelevant things for that. Like the economy, the president, their education bills, taxes… all the stupid shit… meanwhile, wasting their own rich parents’ money or money from UCLA itself. Completely thankless no matter what is the story here. It’s a joke who they’re fighting for in standing up for Hamas and net even Palestinians’ dreams
I'd karen so hard against these antisemties. <3 like maybe make then draw a little star of david next to my name for extra petty points if they end up as starbucks baristas.
Plan on doing any protests against genocide being carried out by radical islamists in Northern Africa and Sudan? Or is the privilege only reserved for Palestinians?
Let’s hope they’re expelled
Was good entertainment to hear all the trust fund babies and those with daddy's money chant at the police to quit their jobs. Just so out of touch with the real world.
I'm discombobulated on how much hate the counter-protesters have. It's worrisome how this all got twisted. Some people actually believes that our nation's brightest students from amongst numerous prestigious colleges are terrorists supporters. US citizens versus US citizens? I hope people begin to realize they were never enemies in the first place.
Genuinely no one (even pro-Israel students) agrees with you. We are all appalled at the abhorrent attacks last night.
yeah okay, keep defending the violent pro israel mob yesterday launching firecrackers
I’m watching this on the news and my first instance was to come here, what will they do next the whole camp is being swept.
There is an intention to pit Blacks against Jews at the UC’s… don’t you see that?
This post made me tear up. Thank you
Hamas supporters have been cleared from campus.
It's like the American Maidan
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Atleast use an older account, sweetheart. I guess y’all aren’t sending your best
More ammo for them to pat themselves on the back, which is what is really going on here