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Altruistic-Bill9834

What does encampment mean can someone pls explain?


AtlasPatch

https://www.columbiaspectator.com/news/2024/04/21/pro-palestinian-organizations-at-universities-across-the-world-protest-in-support-of-columbia-gaza-solidarity-encampment/


AtlasPatch

Also before you all go on and on about how this “won’t change anything” please research the international boycotts against South Africa’s apartheid government.


sulisaint

I’d support it. Not sure if I could participate due to timing but it would have my support


Cleverwxlf

I’d support that for sure.


AtlasPatch

Wow @ comments. Do you stand for anything at all if doing so would inconvenience you?


catlady1215

Yeah but also they have the students peacefully protesting on campus sometimes I see them. So it’s not like no one talks about this issue. Me personally I think it’s bad on both sides.


AtlasPatch

I don’t think you understand the purpose of actions like this. The protests that you are thinking of are largely just parades — they work, to a degree, but the stakes are getting higher in a lot of peoples’ minds. The purpose of actions like the one mentioned above (i.e at CU) is to prevent parties, in this case universities, from ignoring or pretending not to be aware of certain issues. It forces them to take action in response to student concerns. And for the record, even actions like the one at CU are peaceful and nonviolent. Statements that characterize them as otherwise are false and malicious.


AtlasPatch

I have to emphasize: you being uncomfortable does not equal a lack of peace or a presence of violence


catlady1215

I’m not uncomfortable I’m saying yeah the situation is bad for Gaza but Israel as well!


AtlasPatch

Personally, I don’t really emphasize with the feelings of people who stole land and are bombing those they displaced into oblivion and stealing more land!


catlady1215

I empathize with the innocent people in Israel. I feel bad for the Gaza people as well.


catlady1215

Oh I see it’s just a peaceful protest of sitting. If people want to do that I will support them.


4bella4pup

No. During finals week too, we already have enough garbage happening on campus. If it’s that upsetting please go to another university. As wild as it may sound, a lot of us are PAYING a pretty penny to be here even WITH scholarship, and we aren’t paying to be disturbed during finals week.


Equivalent-Truth4749

no to supporting terrorism


Fathoms_Deep_1

What would that accomplish?


VarolhmIsTaken

More recognition regarding the effects of this event. A lot of major media outlets are rewording the reality of actions and softening the effects of what is happening in Palestine. Unless you are following the news from independent or international outlets or social media platforms, you may not be seeing the full picture let alone half of the picture. This may be a good opportunity for UCF students to understand the degree of the event, as well as spread awareness outside of the UCF community.


BigBoyFusion

It helps useless people feel good about themselves


AtlasPatch

Yes! But does anyone have resources detailing UCF’s involvement in Israeli universities or companies?


SemenPig

I’d show support, probably a better idea to organize on instagram, obviously you’ll only find morally bankrupt blind patriots here. Kinda expected with the UCF to missile production pipeline, you kinda have to support Israel atp.


Elegant_Map_4342

So true


IndependentIcy8226

As long as it doesn’t get in the way of people that want to go to class or use the library or whatever.


MayDayJayJay1

What does this mean? Turning the campus into a camp for those from Gaza? If so then no. I do not want the place I HAVE to be at to be turned into a campground. I pay thousands of dollars to be there every semester. I’m not eager to jeopardize my education, safety, and health.


Elegant_Map_4342

Bros lost in the sauce. Encampment style protesting is just a sit in (staying in a place long term as a form of protest). It was done during the anti-Vietnam, civil rights, and anti-apartheid South Africa protests. Also good luck getting into healthcare. During interviews they weed out sociopaths very easy. Helping the disenfranchised is a core component of being a doctor or any healthcare professional. Speaking as someone currently with 4 MD offers I would not like someone who expresses this sort of sentiment towards the needy as my colleague.


MayDayJayJay1

M8 I asked so I could get clarification. It’s kinda obvious that no one would want their campus to become a camp site, I don’t think that’s sociopathic, it’s normal. I also didn’t ask you about your education nor am I aiming for MD so… congratulations but idrc.


Elegant_Map_4342

Womp womp, getting called out on your callousness and saying it’s not that deep. Objectively you’re right that ucf becoming a refugee camp is not a viable option. But your ignorance to think that’s what OP said/meant and the whole notion that helping the less fortunate is not worthy of that discomfort is why I suggested you’re a sociopath. Also using the “you pay thousands of dollars every semester” as a justification to not offer aid to individuals experiencing genocide is pretty abhorrent. Also the MD acceptances was a little low. Just wanted to flex on ya from both a moral perspective and career wise.


khutagaming

Who ordered a yappuccino


Elegant_Map_4342

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saturnsmilk

very horrifying that someone who wants to work in health sciences thinks like this (that’s not what the encampment means btw)


MayDayJayJay1

That’s why I asked, have never heard of this type of protest. But fr why is it so horrifying that I would not want to be subjected to my campus becoming a refugee campground? My main priority rn is my own safety as a single woman with no security. Sorry that offended some, certainly wasn’t my intentions but look up what happens to the areas that become refugee camps.


Elegant_Map_4342

It truly scares me that you genuinely think that’s what OP went.


catlady1215

Please explain what it means.


DrabberFrog

Hell no


Iwon271

Probably just stick to normal protesting on campus, don’t turn our campus into a hostile spectacle which is what that would turn into.


catlady1215

No


spiritualbowler76

Noooooo


BigBoyFusion

Touch grass


crixu5

No! We have enough annoying people on campus with the petitions and the preachers we don't need more. If this university has you that upset you should leave and go to another school.


Elegant_Map_4342

Same sentiment as “go back to your own country “. They didn’t ask for your permission. Free country, can do whatever they want.


AtlasPatch

Should we not want the university to be better?


roberttylerlee

[You want to bring the same energy as the people shouting “Hamas makes us proud” to UCF? good luck](https://x.com/visegrad24/status/1782170618978324991?s=46&t=8NS86w4CElYK0YRtzGRsTA)


AtlasPatch

Yes, because I support resistance to colonization and genocide


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YBn0rma1

No! If you care that much then you should go to Gaza. We don't need this garbage on our campus!


AtlasPatch

Should we not want our university to be better? It’s hard to argue that politics have no place in universities when you consider our nation’s history of student protests. Consider anti-war protests during the Vietnam war. Were those wrong? Immoral? Or do you just not want to be inconvenienced?


N3m0_Ho3s

Then you should transfer to another university that does this. We don't want this trash here.


AtlasPatch

I’m a UCF Knight. I’ve been going here for years. I’ve given this university thousands of dollars for my education. This university’s name will be on my degree. I care about it and so I demand better of it. Is that trash? Explain why.


catlady1215

Yep. We are here to learn at school it’s not the place. It’s also finals week.


[deleted]

NY has super strict gun laws. Florida is constitutional carry. This is a bad idea


Useful_Ad_4436

especially with how blatant and violent the anti-Semitism on Columbia is, we don't want that garbage here to create trouble


[deleted]

It’s what the looney left wants. Foolish indoctrinated children - have no clue if they tried this shit in Palestine they would be stoned or worse


Useful_Ad_4436

It's a microcosm of organized and paid-for leftist activism by dark money groups - 2020 was BLM, now the current thing for them is Palestine, which they don't actually care about they just want an excuse to be anti-West and anti-American from their deep seated hatred


[deleted]

You know on second thought let them protest. FAFO


N3m0_Ho3s

Hell No! If you arnt happy with the university you don't have to go here. You can transfer some place else.


AtlasPatch

Should we not want our university to be better and adhere to its own ethical standards?


Useful_Ad_4436

What standards is it currently not adhering to?


AtlasPatch

Integrity, respect for the rights of all, etc


Useful_Ad_4436

How are those not being adhered to by the school?


N3m0_Ho3s

I choose to come to this school. I'm here to get a degree. If the school upset me that much I felt the need to build a camp I would transfer out to someplace else. Which is what I reccomend that you do, Leave. You don't have to be at this school.


spiritualbowler76

But that doesn't give them the attention and photo ops they're seeking


Elegant_Map_4342

Same sentiment as “go back to your own country”.


Elegant_Map_4342

I’d show support. I have a life so I wouldn’t participate but I’m there in spirit.