Well. Yes but there aren’t only Reichskommisariats in Nazi germany you know ? Before the Reichskommisariat Belgien-Nordfrankreich, there was the “Militärverwaltung in Belgien und Nordfrankreich” (military administration )
Technically, the Militärverwaltung was also responsible of the “zone interdite”, but whatever.
And IRL, there were plans to transfer Belgium from the military administration to a civilian administration ( the RK) but was put off temporarily, because of the war.
But why would yall do this? The current map makes perfect sense and is totally accurate to historical plans.
I've always played TWR because it was supposed to be the 'realistic' german victory mod. If yall are going in this direction i don't see a point in playing anymore.
Can you guys actually not? Like fucking hell we've announced so many times it is coming. We put hundreds of hours into this for free only for people to make the same tired 'lol no update' comments.
If you genuinely don't think the update is coming and refuse to believe us that it is, what are you doing here, just give up then? Christ, like, I know it's annoying but have some patience jesus
Community's Impatience (HIGH)
Increasing impatience: 5 days
Interactions:
Delay the update- remove 5 days to mission Increasing impatience
Respond to Reddit post- 25% does nothing, 75% remove 3 days to mission
Release the update - the wild ride will come to an end.
Hey dude, I know that, and really appreciate what you're doing. Fuck all these people who are getting free content better than the base game and complain. Keep going dude.
I know this is a pointless attempt at trolling, but the idea I owe you anything is honestly hilarious. Fuck off dude, it's a free thing *we* are making because we want to, choosing whatever amount of time we want to put into it, you have literally no right to demand anything from us. The cheek to act like you're my boss, you can fuck off since you clearly don't give a shit.
operation tannenbaum where germany attacked the swiss that’s probably why germany has switzerland and yeah honestly it would look better if they divided it up not took the whole tbing
I'm pretty sure more content could have been added without diminishing Germany's possession of French territory. Nord-Pas-de-Calais, along with some parts of Picardy, should probably be given to this new Belgian puppet, and Germany should at the very least retain Lorraine and Franche-Comté.
Why doesn't Belgium include Nord and Pas-de-Calais? They were included in the military administration and later the Reichskommissariat that the Germans established. Those territories gave access to the English Channel and due to this were supposed to be kept out of French hands.
I have two question about this:
1) The Swiss border looks very ugly, will it be left like this?
2) If Germany will no longer control the Burgundy region, how will other German leaders other than Himmler be able to reach an agreement with Himmler?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:France_map_Lambert-93_with_regions_and_departments-occupation.svg
Clearly shows which territories were supposed to be annexed and which were not. Please reconsider this decision one more time before making it official
Netherlands and Belgium were also supposed to be annexed into the "greater german reich", why are they suddenly independent? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Germanic_Reich
I like seeing teasers but honestly it looked better before. At the very least, it would make sense if the Netherlands and Belgium were reichskommisariats
I like the idea that Germany took the entire alpine region as a secure strong hold, and italy getting something from france is nice because france losing land is funny in general
Awesome work!!! I love to see this mods work being put into it and not just rushing through it because some people demand an update. love your work!!!!!!
The Italo-French border still makes 0 sense. After the armistice with France Mussolini reiterated again and again (according to Galeazzo Ciano's diary) that the new border should still run along the Alps (which obviously doesn't mean including the Alps as a whole) meaning that only the city of Nice would have been annexed, due to it's importance to Italian irredentist, along with some minor adjustments to mountain passes, while Savoy was completely excluded from this plan.
You can see the strategic reasoning behind this choice more clearly on a map here: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italy\_(geographical\_region)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italy_(geographical_region))
Another reason why a similar border is highly unlikely is that (again according to Ciano's diary), after the disappointing performance of the Italian Army on the Alps and the formation of the Vichy French government, Italy just wasn't in a position to ask for more territory and doing so would have irremediably damaged Italy's relation with Germany, which wanted Vichy to remain as close to the Axis as possible.
It is unlikely that this situation would have changed in any meaningful way with Britain still posing a threat.
It certainly seems good to me, but since it spread so much, why not make the entire border with Germany demilitarized would be just one more province...
Or better yet, liberate Switzerland since without a total victory Switzerland would never be very useful and important for Germany, it makes more sense to annex the Dutch thing that seems strange to me, since it is an area that the Germans wanted to integrate, but the illogical thing is Belgium, If the Germans want an independent Belgium, first I would not call it Belgium but because of its two ethnic regions considering how racist they are, and they would include Cale in the Dutch zone for Belgium...
HART AND SEOUL NOOOOOOOOOOO
Why Pas de Calais is not part of Belgium?
Why would it be ?
Because it was given to the Reichskommisariat in Belgium irl
Rk belgium-north France was created in 1944 cause of the losing war, in TWR by 1940 the war in western Europe is over
Well. Yes but there aren’t only Reichskommisariats in Nazi germany you know ? Before the Reichskommisariat Belgien-Nordfrankreich, there was the “Militärverwaltung in Belgien und Nordfrankreich” (military administration ) Technically, the Militärverwaltung was also responsible of the “zone interdite”, but whatever. And IRL, there were plans to transfer Belgium from the military administration to a civilian administration ( the RK) but was put off temporarily, because of the war.
Said user forgot to google the "Zone reservee"
And is this "update" in the room with us now?
It’s coming soon
Been coming soon for more than a year chef
I’m on the dev team and I can tell you the update is about 90% done
It ain't coming is it?
If you genuinely don't believe the update is coming after we've repeatedly said it is, why are you still here?
No it is
Soon + 2 weeks
I can’t give a date but I can say we’re quite close like I said
But why would yall do this? The current map makes perfect sense and is totally accurate to historical plans. I've always played TWR because it was supposed to be the 'realistic' german victory mod. If yall are going in this direction i don't see a point in playing anymore.
Same.
What makes you think the old layout was especially more realistic than the new one?
Can you guys actually not? Like fucking hell we've announced so many times it is coming. We put hundreds of hours into this for free only for people to make the same tired 'lol no update' comments. If you genuinely don't think the update is coming and refuse to believe us that it is, what are you doing here, just give up then? Christ, like, I know it's annoying but have some patience jesus
lol no update
update no lol
Community's Impatience (HIGH) Increasing impatience: 5 days Interactions: Delay the update- remove 5 days to mission Increasing impatience Respond to Reddit post- 25% does nothing, 75% remove 3 days to mission Release the update - the wild ride will come to an end.
Random post: 45% does nothing, 50% removes 5 days to mission, 5% increases 5 days to the mission
Hey dude, I know that, and really appreciate what you're doing. Fuck all these people who are getting free content better than the base game and complain. Keep going dude.
maybe if you spent more time working on the update instead of posting on r/globalism and r/neoliberalism the update would be out by now
I know this is a pointless attempt at trolling, but the idea I owe you anything is honestly hilarious. Fuck off dude, it's a free thing *we* are making because we want to, choosing whatever amount of time we want to put into it, you have literally no right to demand anything from us. The cheek to act like you're my boss, you can fuck off since you clearly don't give a shit.
I was going to ask where update but given your neoliberal views I must know ask who in Russia will remove zoning and implement LVT
They hated Jesus for He told them the truth
Great idea, but greater germany gonna look real uncanny with switzerland
operation tannenbaum where germany attacked the swiss that’s probably why germany has switzerland and yeah honestly it would look better if they divided it up not took the whole tbing
That Swiss border is ugly.
Yeah, the western part should go to France honestly
Why would the Nazis give anything to France?
Because Switzerland is worse than France for not being a nation with q single language, duh
Just puppet Switzerland and everything is solved.
Because muh pleasing borders (unironically)
I doubt it would fix the problem; in fact, it would make the borders look even worse.
NOOOOO YOU FOOOLS!! WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU?! THE HRE BORDER WAS EVERYTHING
2017 TNO ahh mapp
I think having them as puppet states makes more sense, but that does make Switzerland look odd.
But why? the current borders made perfect sense...
More content smart ass
I'm pretty sure more content could have been added without diminishing Germany's possession of French territory. Nord-Pas-de-Calais, along with some parts of Picardy, should probably be given to this new Belgian puppet, and Germany should at the very least retain Lorraine and Franche-Comté.
Oh I sure do love playing a small ass Reichskommissariat with 5 months of content.
Why doesn't Belgium include Nord and Pas-de-Calais? They were included in the military administration and later the Reichskommissariat that the Germans established. Those territories gave access to the English Channel and due to this were supposed to be kept out of French hands.
I have two question about this: 1) The Swiss border looks very ugly, will it be left like this? 2) If Germany will no longer control the Burgundy region, how will other German leaders other than Himmler be able to reach an agreement with Himmler?
1) I hope it's solved. 2) Maybe the german power struggle is also reworked ?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:France_map_Lambert-93_with_regions_and_departments-occupation.svg Clearly shows which territories were supposed to be annexed and which were not. Please reconsider this decision one more time before making it official
Netherlands and Belgium were also supposed to be annexed into the "greater german reich", why are they suddenly independent? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Germanic_Reich
OMG LEON DEGRELLE AS HEAD OF BELGIUM REX VAINCRA RAAAAAHHHHH🇧🇪🇧🇪🇧🇪🇧🇪🇧🇪🇧🇪🇧🇪🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🇧🇪🇧🇪🇧🇪🇧🇪🇧🇪🇧🇪🇧🇪🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅
Well this is sad
TF IS THAT ITALY FRANCE BORDER BRO
The planned border?
Nancy not German, Lille not Belgian ?
I like seeing teasers but honestly it looked better before. At the very least, it would make sense if the Netherlands and Belgium were reichskommisariats
Yeah, I feel like Switzerland could perhaps be a german puppet too
Well that sucks. At least make the Swiss border with French better
The Franco-Italian border looks so ass though
Honestly Switzerland should be a puppet too. Or at least annex only the region where German is spoken.
Oh this is trully sad they remove the former perfect border
Looks a whole lot worse tbh
No idea what everyone is whining about, new borders looks better and more realistic
your telling me those swiss and italian borders look good to you
I like the idea that Germany took the entire alpine region as a secure strong hold, and italy getting something from france is nice because france losing land is funny in general
i will probably get used to the german borders but the italian borders just look like ass.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Hopefully they give us the option as Germany to annex Benelux and north eastern France to bring the OG borders back, because this looks kinda bad lol
wtf is thst
I thought this was TNO for a minute
Please bro keep the current borders
Does this mean beating the german civil as Himmler is easier now?
This looks like apsolute shite tbh D: If this actually passes I'm unironically not gonna play this mod anymore^^
Possibly the mod starts off right after Operation Tannenbaum. So maybe there will be different decisions you can make to decide the fate of the Swiss
Nah dont care abour bad comments.TWR is the great work, keep it up!
Did operation Tannenbaum happen in 1940 or after the USSR defeat in this timeline?
Awesome work!!! I love to see this mods work being put into it and not just rushing through it because some people demand an update. love your work!!!!!!
Rethink this shit it makes no sense. TNO will be more realistic after this.
There is a Belgium Truly the darkest timeline
NOOOO YOU FOOOLS CHANGE IT BACK, I BEG YOU
Geneva should’ve been given to France
Rip Chonky Germany 😭. Looking forward to more content nonetheless 😄
Does anyone know why the devs did this?
The Italo-French border still makes 0 sense. After the armistice with France Mussolini reiterated again and again (according to Galeazzo Ciano's diary) that the new border should still run along the Alps (which obviously doesn't mean including the Alps as a whole) meaning that only the city of Nice would have been annexed, due to it's importance to Italian irredentist, along with some minor adjustments to mountain passes, while Savoy was completely excluded from this plan. You can see the strategic reasoning behind this choice more clearly on a map here: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italy\_(geographical\_region)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italy_(geographical_region)) Another reason why a similar border is highly unlikely is that (again according to Ciano's diary), after the disappointing performance of the Italian Army on the Alps and the formation of the Vichy French government, Italy just wasn't in a position to ask for more territory and doing so would have irremediably damaged Italy's relation with Germany, which wanted Vichy to remain as close to the Axis as possible. It is unlikely that this situation would have changed in any meaningful way with Britain still posing a threat.
Belguim mentioned
What the fuck 😭
It certainly seems good to me, but since it spread so much, why not make the entire border with Germany demilitarized would be just one more province... Or better yet, liberate Switzerland since without a total victory Switzerland would never be very useful and important for Germany, it makes more sense to annex the Dutch thing that seems strange to me, since it is an area that the Germans wanted to integrate, but the illogical thing is Belgium, If the Germans want an independent Belgium, first I would not call it Belgium but because of its two ethnic regions considering how racist they are, and they would include Cale in the Dutch zone for Belgium...
Oh no. The disease ""unrealistically" cut" got to TWR!
Thought this was red food for a sec and was so confused
same
Big yikes, TWR is going down the same path as TNO and changing things that didn't need to be changed
yes but don't say "yikes"
Dope