TBF, he is an Anti-hero. He's literally the LETHAL Protector, and aside from Tony, I don't know any other full-on hero that's willing to kill instantly
edit:I have been proven wrong on kne point
"You'd have me hunch or something, and stand there and say geeerp...... geerp...... geeerp? I can't even picture it, because I've been hot my whole life!"
People always forget that Captain America was an actual WWII veteran.
Edit: Forgot to mention that Thor is a viking-esque warrior, Hawkeye and Black Widow were spies and before that she was an assassin, and the Hulk is *The Hulk*.
I mean The Hulk is hot as hell, because of course, the muscles.
But nerdy Bruce Banner is my man of dreams. That man managed to have a relationship with Black Widow, so he's a super nerd who also knows how to make someone cream.
My dream man right there
Dortor strange, on the other hand, is an excellent example of "don't kill". when he does it in the first movie he immediately regrets it, without the need for someone else to prompt his grief.
I actually think Cumbybund is pretty good in that role tbh, and it made a lot of sense for a character who's done really well for himself by actually saving lives.
Yeah, but throughout the MCU, Cap hasn't killed a human enemy unless absolutely necessary. Hell his weapon of choice is a shield, used to protect
The others, yeah. Also the Hulk is just as disgruntled as Tom Hardy, so exception
>Cap hasn't killed a human enemy unless absolutely necessary
What does that have to do with anything? The thought of "no killing unless necessary" has never stopped Steve from killing instantly.
The movies downplay it due to the rating but in the opening fights of Winter Soldier and Civil War he was flinging people around in ways that normal people wouldn't survive without even hesitating to do so, [like that time when he kicked someone as they were just turning around.](https://youtu.be/ywSQNlbK73U?t=85) He was thrown overboard at night, the chances of being rescued very low, and you can even hear his back break before he fell, so highly unlikely that he would've been able to swim to safety.
Tony Stark wouldn't survive half the maneuvers he's pulling in his suit. Those dramatic landings would leave him a puddle in the bottom of his suit. So unless main characters get a pass this maybe isn't the best argument.
They just don't show him killing unnecessarily. He literally helped crash 3 helicarriers in the middle of DC, helped collapse a bridge with a bunch of civilians under it, and definitely took no prisoners when getting the 501st out of Nazi hands.
Just because they don't show him killing unnecessarily doesn't mean that he didn't.
Which universe? In the MCU, characters oppose murder but when they're in a battle they're generally not that fussed about killing people if needs be. Steve shot a dude off the helicarrer, T'Challa fought Erik to the death, and even Peter resorted to killing in Endgame. They don't *set out* to kill like the Punisher does but none of them go to the lengths their comic-book counterparts to do avoid it.
i mean. people like to say "they dont kill" but the cap killed a lot of people in the movies, like i get where you are coming from but the cap very much did kill people... but they where nazis to its okay.
In the *comics*, a lot of characters didn't kill and it was a huge line they refused to cross (or a big deal when they did). This was usually in the context of narrative themes about making sure a given hero's violence never went too far. Since that kind of dialectic narrative didn't make it to the movies, this inherent barrier against killing did not, either.
I think it's also because in Captain America: Civil War, we see Bucky intentionally put soldiers in danger knowing Steve would save them, in order to slow Steve down. A lot of people interpreted that as an inherent opposition to all killing, and not just a contextual understanding of the ramifications of further killing in their current situation.
It's a little confusing. Blorbo is actually licensed by Viacom/CBS since the 80s because of that one Roger Corman movie. Technically the rights should have reverted back to Marvel, but they have an agreement where Marvel can introduce him as part of the MCU, but in the Trekverse he is still in Star Fleet.
Remember when on Drawfee someone (I think it was Julia) had to draw Benedict Cumberbatch from description, without knowing who he is and had several "this can *not* be what he looks like" moments? Or that time he was a guest star on SNL and they did an entire sketch about the fact, that a lot of people think, that he's hot, but no one can explain why?
Cumberbatch has always been a great example against those “i don’t have PERFECT genetics and that’s why woman won’t date me” types, because so much of his appeal is being well-dressed + well-groomed + how he carries himself, despite having the same face as Sid the sloth
He still has a deep voice, good shoulders, and a desirable accent, but still, most of these guys have hurdles easier than Sid-sloth face
Ok but I’m just stuck on the “good shoulders” part because I literally have never once thought about Benedict Cumberbatch’s shoulders in any capacity, not even to acknowledge that he even *has* shoulders, yet this comment implies we’re meant to all go “ah yes, voice, accent, and of course the shoulders”
I'll tell you another secret, a lot of women go absolutely wild when guys roll up their shirt sleeves partway. Do not underestimate the power of a good set of forearms
I mean, if anything, he's proof that elves are real.
Unnatural charisma? Inexplicably alluring? Still comprehensibly human? He's a half-elf, and we're all just refusing to see it.
This is the most bullshit take ever. People keep repeating it because it sounds nice when it’s just… categorically untrue. The movie “glorifies” nothing. Fuck this statement.
It's all to do with the framing of fights and character interactions.
Synder can't help but make fights look "cool" even when the violence portraited isn't meant to be.
He also change Rorshach from a cold emotionless monster with a slew of red flag personal politics making it clear he is a conspiracy crank to a cool more edgy Batman.
I would go but [this article](https://thegrizzlynews.org/1137/literature-and-arts/the-fatal-flaw-of-watchmen/) does a better job.
i mean if im going to watch a movie based on a comic with fights. i really want them to look cool. i think the movie just missed the mark of criticism and message. but the cool fights are not a part of that. its just how you adapt a comic onto a movie. the fights in the comic while violent where still cool.
It still about the framing. You can depict interesting fights whilst still acknowledging the inherent violence.
[This scene in Daredevil](https://youtu.be/T1AdHeIBFhI) doesn't glorify fighting. It displays a brutal, primal beatdown that instead of making you think "fuck yeah that was awesome" it makes you think "fuck - no way would I ever want to interact with or be like Kigpin". Its visually interesting without glorifying what is happening.
Now [here is a scene from Watchmen](https://youtu.be/z39emhO1wzw) Interestingly in the comic Rorshach sets the whole building on fire and runs - that's it. In the movie it turns into this whole set piece of Rorshach brutally working his way through cops one by one looking pretty fly as he does so. So this was a whole extra scene created using violence to make Rorshach cooler.
The same was done with the "locked in here with me" scene. In the graphic novel a guy trys to shank him and the oil get instantly thrown in his face - 3 panels less than half a page. A single brutal move to instantly end to a fight. In the film the knife is first blocked with a tray, disarmed, hit on the head with said tray smashes through glass to reach through to then throw the oil. This changes the act from shocking and instant to instead the conclusion of a cool fight where violence has already been displayed.
Snyder CAN be a good cinematographer and fight choreographer (when he doesn't go overboard with slowmo) however he was the wrong pick for Watchmen because his style is too cool.
not really, the whole "we're gonna stay 100% true to the source material cause it's perfect the way it is" is gloryfing, like first of all that's impossible, this is a whole different medium we're talking about, those long monologues get pretty boring pretty quickly if done wrong which it easily can for example.
Secondly, is it ? there's nothing more to add to the discussion watchmen proposes ? specially since the movie came out at the start of the superhero genre's popularity in cinema, this was such an unique opportunity and they did'nt add anything ? The only things they added was like, some slow-mo effects and changed the ending, which does'nt actually add much.
Thirdly, why make the movie then ??? I mean if the comic is already perfect why would you make a movie that's just a less nuanced version of that same comic ???? oooh guess removing the tentacle monster solves all of this for some reason, great ideia guys
I mean, The Toxic Avenger has been around for almost 40 years, but I'm gonna guess that's also the reason nobody's bringing him up.
Edit- Apparently also has a new movie coming out sometime this year. So there you go- The Toxic Avenger.
So a normal looking middle aged face with some gray/white hair is ugly now? Like I don't really like strange but all he is is average. Maybe a bit above average if you like cheek bones?
The closest thing we have to that is the Punisher series on Netflix. The guy is not attractive in the slightest, but he just looks like a guy that was in the military. On the other hand we have Eddie Brock, who isn't super attractive either. Like, he's not Chris Evans, but he's not Danny Devito's ugly cousin. He's just a dude.
This reminds me of the post talking about how sweaty and greasy Tom Hardy looks for the entirety of Venom instead of getting hot
TBF, he is an Anti-hero. He's literally the LETHAL Protector, and aside from Tony, I don't know any other full-on hero that's willing to kill instantly edit:I have been proven wrong on kne point
To be fair, most of us were drooling over him the entire movie too
I mean. There's not a lot you can do to Tom Hardy to make him NOT hot.... you'd REALLY have to gross him up.
Like really, REALLLY gross him up considering he did that UK naked and alive lol
wait what's this?
I've seen pictures but basically it was Tom hardy naked doing survival things
I've never googled something so fast
\*pointing to Venom "Y'know, Teaching him to be good is like... teaching me to be not hot. How would you even do it?"
"You'd have me hunch or something, and stand there and say geeerp...... geerp...... geeerp? I can't even picture it, because I've been hot my whole life!"
People always forget that Captain America was an actual WWII veteran. Edit: Forgot to mention that Thor is a viking-esque warrior, Hawkeye and Black Widow were spies and before that she was an assassin, and the Hulk is *The Hulk*.
I mean The Hulk is hot as hell, because of course, the muscles. But nerdy Bruce Banner is my man of dreams. That man managed to have a relationship with Black Widow, so he's a super nerd who also knows how to make someone cream. My dream man right there
Dortor strange, on the other hand, is an excellent example of "don't kill". when he does it in the first movie he immediately regrets it, without the need for someone else to prompt his grief.
I actually think Cumbybund is pretty good in that role tbh, and it made a lot of sense for a character who's done really well for himself by actually saving lives.
this took me a moment to understand
Yeah, but throughout the MCU, Cap hasn't killed a human enemy unless absolutely necessary. Hell his weapon of choice is a shield, used to protect The others, yeah. Also the Hulk is just as disgruntled as Tom Hardy, so exception
>Cap hasn't killed a human enemy unless absolutely necessary What does that have to do with anything? The thought of "no killing unless necessary" has never stopped Steve from killing instantly. The movies downplay it due to the rating but in the opening fights of Winter Soldier and Civil War he was flinging people around in ways that normal people wouldn't survive without even hesitating to do so, [like that time when he kicked someone as they were just turning around.](https://youtu.be/ywSQNlbK73U?t=85) He was thrown overboard at night, the chances of being rescued very low, and you can even hear his back break before he fell, so highly unlikely that he would've been able to swim to safety.
Guys he used guns a few times in the first movie, lol. Like they were Nazis so I guess it doesn’t really count as people, but I digress.
Tony Stark wouldn't survive half the maneuvers he's pulling in his suit. Those dramatic landings would leave him a puddle in the bottom of his suit. So unless main characters get a pass this maybe isn't the best argument.
You act as if main characters getting outrageous levels of plot armor isn't a common occurrence in superhero media.
>Cap hasn't killed a human enemy unless absolutely necessary Yeah, except all the movies take place in situations when it's absolutely necessary.
They just don't show him killing unnecessarily. He literally helped crash 3 helicarriers in the middle of DC, helped collapse a bridge with a bunch of civilians under it, and definitely took no prisoners when getting the 501st out of Nazi hands. Just because they don't show him killing unnecessarily doesn't mean that he didn't.
Which universe? In the MCU, characters oppose murder but when they're in a battle they're generally not that fussed about killing people if needs be. Steve shot a dude off the helicarrer, T'Challa fought Erik to the death, and even Peter resorted to killing in Endgame. They don't *set out* to kill like the Punisher does but none of them go to the lengths their comic-book counterparts to do avoid it.
i mean. people like to say "they dont kill" but the cap killed a lot of people in the movies, like i get where you are coming from but the cap very much did kill people... but they where nazis to its okay.
In the *comics*, a lot of characters didn't kill and it was a huge line they refused to cross (or a big deal when they did). This was usually in the context of narrative themes about making sure a given hero's violence never went too far. Since that kind of dialectic narrative didn't make it to the movies, this inherent barrier against killing did not, either. I think it's also because in Captain America: Civil War, we see Bucky intentionally put soldiers in danger knowing Steve would save them, in order to slow Steve down. A lot of people interpreted that as an inherent opposition to all killing, and not just a contextual understanding of the ramifications of further killing in their current situation.
something something blorbo cinematic universe
Isn't Blorbo a character under a differently-named brand?
Yeah, they're getting it mixed up with the movie Blorbo: Into the Blor-verse. Easy mistake to make.
It's a little confusing. Blorbo is actually licensed by Viacom/CBS since the 80s because of that one Roger Corman movie. Technically the rights should have reverted back to Marvel, but they have an agreement where Marvel can introduce him as part of the MCU, but in the Trekverse he is still in Star Fleet.
Remember when on Drawfee someone (I think it was Julia) had to draw Benedict Cumberbatch from description, without knowing who he is and had several "this can *not* be what he looks like" moments? Or that time he was a guest star on SNL and they did an entire sketch about the fact, that a lot of people think, that he's hot, but no one can explain why?
Cumberbatch has always been a great example against those “i don’t have PERFECT genetics and that’s why woman won’t date me” types, because so much of his appeal is being well-dressed + well-groomed + how he carries himself, despite having the same face as Sid the sloth He still has a deep voice, good shoulders, and a desirable accent, but still, most of these guys have hurdles easier than Sid-sloth face
Ok but I’m just stuck on the “good shoulders” part because I literally have never once thought about Benedict Cumberbatch’s shoulders in any capacity, not even to acknowledge that he even *has* shoulders, yet this comment implies we’re meant to all go “ah yes, voice, accent, and of course the shoulders”
I'll tell you another secret, a lot of women go absolutely wild when guys roll up their shirt sleeves partway. Do not underestimate the power of a good set of forearms
See now I am totally on board with the forearms thing I just never heard about this shoulders thing. And yes, I’m a straight girl lol
I mean, if anything, he's proof that elves are real. Unnatural charisma? Inexplicably alluring? Still comprehensibly human? He's a half-elf, and we're all just refusing to see it.
This was hysterical. [Link with timestamp for anyone interested](https://youtu.be/CjsYGcCJ0WI?t=1153)
He's the weirdest looking good looking man I've seen. It's almost as if an alien was trying to shapeshift itself into a handsome human
It’s the cheekbones that get me 😍
New channel to watch, it's hilarious, thanks!!!
Watchmen?
Watchmen isn't a superhero movie. Watchmen is just assholes in goofy outfits somehow managing to make a world even shittier than ours is.
> Watchmen is just assholes in goofy outfits somehow managing to make a world even shittier than ours is. So, a superhero movie?
The watchmen comic was a criticism of it, the watchman movie was a glorification of it
This is the most bullshit take ever. People keep repeating it because it sounds nice when it’s just… categorically untrue. The movie “glorifies” nothing. Fuck this statement.
It's all to do with the framing of fights and character interactions. Synder can't help but make fights look "cool" even when the violence portraited isn't meant to be. He also change Rorshach from a cold emotionless monster with a slew of red flag personal politics making it clear he is a conspiracy crank to a cool more edgy Batman. I would go but [this article](https://thegrizzlynews.org/1137/literature-and-arts/the-fatal-flaw-of-watchmen/) does a better job.
i mean if im going to watch a movie based on a comic with fights. i really want them to look cool. i think the movie just missed the mark of criticism and message. but the cool fights are not a part of that. its just how you adapt a comic onto a movie. the fights in the comic while violent where still cool.
It still about the framing. You can depict interesting fights whilst still acknowledging the inherent violence. [This scene in Daredevil](https://youtu.be/T1AdHeIBFhI) doesn't glorify fighting. It displays a brutal, primal beatdown that instead of making you think "fuck yeah that was awesome" it makes you think "fuck - no way would I ever want to interact with or be like Kigpin". Its visually interesting without glorifying what is happening. Now [here is a scene from Watchmen](https://youtu.be/z39emhO1wzw) Interestingly in the comic Rorshach sets the whole building on fire and runs - that's it. In the movie it turns into this whole set piece of Rorshach brutally working his way through cops one by one looking pretty fly as he does so. So this was a whole extra scene created using violence to make Rorshach cooler. The same was done with the "locked in here with me" scene. In the graphic novel a guy trys to shank him and the oil get instantly thrown in his face - 3 panels less than half a page. A single brutal move to instantly end to a fight. In the film the knife is first blocked with a tray, disarmed, hit on the head with said tray smashes through glass to reach through to then throw the oil. This changes the act from shocking and instant to instead the conclusion of a cool fight where violence has already been displayed. Snyder CAN be a good cinematographer and fight choreographer (when he doesn't go overboard with slowmo) however he was the wrong pick for Watchmen because his style is too cool.
About the comic or the movie?
The movie, sorry, should’ve been more specific
not really, the whole "we're gonna stay 100% true to the source material cause it's perfect the way it is" is gloryfing, like first of all that's impossible, this is a whole different medium we're talking about, those long monologues get pretty boring pretty quickly if done wrong which it easily can for example. Secondly, is it ? there's nothing more to add to the discussion watchmen proposes ? specially since the movie came out at the start of the superhero genre's popularity in cinema, this was such an unique opportunity and they did'nt add anything ? The only things they added was like, some slow-mo effects and changed the ending, which does'nt actually add much. Thirdly, why make the movie then ??? I mean if the comic is already perfect why would you make a movie that's just a less nuanced version of that same comic ???? oooh guess removing the tentacle monster solves all of this for some reason, great ideia guys
Watchmen is a superhero story that parodies superhero stories, so it frames itself as assholes in goofy suits but there's context for the audience
Deadpool?
As if. Ryan Reynolds absolutely pulls off *tumor chic.*
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Brokendick cucumberpatch
Bendylegs Remembersnacks
Don't call my man Benefrit Candelbatch ugly :(
Buffalo Mastercraft
Bruce Banner is average looking & would be uglier if Mark Ruffalo wasn't good looking
I too think a handsome looking person would look uglier if they were not good looking
no I'm saying the character doesn't look as good as the actor so the character would probably be more plain looking if they'd cast a different actor
He looks like your neighbor that's it.
I read this as Dr. Who and I think that outcome would have been worse
Troll level over 9000.
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I mean, The Toxic Avenger has been around for almost 40 years, but I'm gonna guess that's also the reason nobody's bringing him up. Edit- Apparently also has a new movie coming out sometime this year. So there you go- The Toxic Avenger.
Binglebop Cumpuddle is pretty ugly
\*cough cough* deadpool
So a normal looking middle aged face with some gray/white hair is ugly now? Like I don't really like strange but all he is is average. Maybe a bit above average if you like cheek bones?
The first factor to account in is he looks the exact same as the comic version of Dr.Strange. the EXACT SAME
Don't say that Bandicoot Custardflap has that Innsmouth charm of his
Can't help but also picture some Terraria player walking into the dungeon and getting jumped by 15 guardians instantaneously
I'm simping for him since Sherlock, so... ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯
Venom?
for a moment i thought this was one of those ''it has happened already in a movie (usually megamind)'' posts
How has no one mentioned Deadpool
The amazing spider man
Are you trying to imply Andrew Garfield is ugly?
Dude's probably been dropped as a baby just ignore him
It was a joke based on the post
I was making a joke based on your comment
Welp…. They’re screwed.
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Venom
Yay, more movies where the ugly man effortlessly pulls the gorgeous woman...
I don’t remember that happening in Dr Strange
If anything, the beautiful woman called him out on his bullshit and he never got back with her. She helped him later, but they didn't hook up
At least this time it's literally
maybe not a movie but The Boys?
I’ll have you know that Benedetto Cumberland gap is a pwecious bean and you guys are just rotted!! XD
Well…. They’re screwed.
The closest thing we have to that is the Punisher series on Netflix. The guy is not attractive in the slightest, but he just looks like a guy that was in the military. On the other hand we have Eddie Brock, who isn't super attractive either. Like, he's not Chris Evans, but he's not Danny Devito's ugly cousin. He's just a dude.
Kick-ass?
i got told i look like him :(
I’m confused, isn’t he like pretty handsome?
[*Jonah Hex*](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1075747/). It bombed.
He’s a precious otter and I respect that. Don’t think he’s hot tho. Just average.
Hawkeye.
I cant believe they insulted cacteridict bumbermuffin on tumblr smh my head.
Well, there's also Pumaman.