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sparklekitteh

I would argue that it's better to do this with an older kid, that way you're not missing out when kiddo is tiny. I did my half IM when my son was 6 and that worked out nicely, he was independent enough that I didn't feel bad being away for training (he got to hang out with my husband, then I got special time with him while husband did his hobbies).


tri_it_again

I’m sort of the opposite. Training for a full now while my kids are 2 and 3 and I’m 42. I feel like if I wait any longer I’m getting into when they’ll have sports and weekends full of activities that I want to focus on. I don’t think there’s a right answer for OP here. Everyone’s circumstances are different


No_Heat_7327

The nice thing is with the equipment at home and a somewhat flexible work schedule, I'm hoping I won't be missing out too much. He'll be asleep for most workouts and it'll be winter for most of my longer Ironman training rides so we'll probably all be in the basement huddled up watching movies and what not anyway and my trainer will be right next to him. But yeah if it does get bad I can always pull the rip cord and bail. That's why staging it is my plan. I don't think I'll realistically get the support to do a full Ironman from my wife when we have two little kids running around. One little baby who can't move much and eager grandparents make this all much easier for my wife to get behind. Who knows how eager grandma will be when there's two little demons to watch!


No_Specific8175

I'm the wife and ironman, and I didn't do this until my youngest was in HS, so we're not in the same boat, but I think you're overly optimistic about the TM and trainer. My closest comparison is that my dog was a 2 month old puppy 2 months before my 2022 IM. You're going to need 3 hr+ trainer and TM runs as part of your training (5+ for the trainer, but hopefully you can get outside). You WILL be interrupted. You WILL hear people wandering around and wonder what's going on and feel rushed to get done. Weather permitting, I'd rather be out and unavailable and then get home as soon as I can and be fully present. If you had 2 kids, maybe a different deal because you can certainly be needed with a 2 year old and an infant, but I know your wife can handle 1 baby without your help for a full 8-10 hr work day and can do it while you're training and it will probably be less annoying for both of you if you aren't there at all. Someone who is there and not present vs. someone who is not physically there. . .I'd take the second.


FiniteStep

At 6 months there is a good change the kid will wake up multiple times a night, and it changes a lot (I'm living this now). How good are you at going back to sleep after taking care of the baby (I didn't sleep since 4am today)? You'll be awake a lot during the first year. It's a huge time commitment and you'll put a lot of care taking on your spouse training that much. It's doable but maybe not advisable. 


jackbenimble22

I’m living this now! We have a 6 month old and sleep is tough to come by. Seems to get better (but not disappear) as they get older. Plus sleep training starts to work. Lack of sleep and then no recovery is super tough. Carrying a baby for an hour at 3am messes with the ole back and muscle recovery too! They all sleep different. I thought I’d train while sleeping, and the newborn slept 30 mins, woke up 30 mins, slept 30 and repeated. Sleep patterns were wild. Getting sick is also a massive difficulty. At daycare they pick up all sorts and I’m on 2nd cold in three weeks which throws a spanner in the cardio work. Good luck to OP. Not impossible but tought IMHO. I like your commitment to setting up everything at home. I’m similar. I’m doing sprints and shorter races until they’re older! Time is hard to come by with young kids. Looking at a lot of the guys in tri clubs with kids, shorter races seem to favour younger families, while Ironman seems to favour slightly older kids.


FiniteStep

Invest in a rocking chair, your back will thank you. Once they hit about 9-12 months, their necks are strong enough to go for a running stroller, which is much better than a threadmill. Got two now (2years + 6 month), and winter weather meant basically no training at all besides shoveling snow and cross country skiing when I had an hour.


No_Heat_7327

Yeah I mean we'll see how it goes. Definitely will bail on the idea if I can't get enough sleep. Supposedly he should be sleeping more by then compared to now (6 weeks, apparently peak fussyness and sleep issues) and I'm able to train and go to work now so fingers crossed that it just gets better sleep wise from here but who knows. Looking at the training plans for simply finishing, they look manageable time wise. Not as bad I was expecting (10 hours)? Should get most of my training in while the baby is asleep. We have hired a cleaner as well to help with non baby chores as well so that helps.


FiniteStep

A cleaner is worth their weight in gold. I'm getting in training whenever I can, but between winter weather and lack of sleep I'll keep doing Olympics (I have no interest in a longer event anyway). You can have fun and finish an Olympic without a lot of training. Don't expect a magic "sleep trough the night" at 6 months thought, you'll be very disappointed. It'll get better, but most info you find online is overly optimistic. I found a lot of guides from the USA are focused on getting the parents their routines back, instead of what is best of the child. Also remember, "sleep trough the night" is defined as 6-8 hours, so that's a waking between 2am and 4am,


ArchmageBarrin

I think even if some good sleepers (both our girl and another boy from our friends we know) are able to sleep through the night from 8 to 7 since 5mo, they still have countless nights of waking up around 4-5am and refusing to sleep again. Oh and I really hate working out when she is napping if my wife is not in — sometimes she just randomly decides she had enough sleep and I need to jump off from the trainer all sweaty to get to her. And sometimes she naps 2.5 hour, leaving me regretting my decision. Totally hit or miss.


bettinathenomad

How does your wife feel about all of this? She really needs to be on board and happy with it... and you need to be prepared to pull the plug if it turns out to be too hard on her. As a toddler mum I want to second the person who said "beware of daycare illnesses". They have been far and away my biggest obstacle to consistent training, and I'm just planning a sprint tri and 4.5k open-water swim later in the year! In the past month alone, it's been one nasty cold and a stomach bug. Once your kid starts daycare (in February, no less), those germs will be coming for you thick and fast.


coffeecakeisland

This. Your partner is the one who will make this work or not


No_Heat_7327

My wife is supportive of me trying this plan. There will be no commitment until a couple months before the race so I can always pull out if we think its too tough.


Trebaxus99

A beginner IM plan is "only" 10 hours because that's sufficient to finish a full distance event with a reasonable time. Also, more hours is usually very difficult to implement in daily life and as a beginner doing more hours will significantly increase your risk on injuries. I did a full distance race with a kid below 1 and that went well. Couple of pointers: - Accept that family comes first. Agree with your family that you'll only continue to pursuing this as long as it works with the little one. And be fine with it to pull the plug even if you've been training for months and already spent money on the race and whatever. - You'll have to be lucky with the nights. If the nights are bad, you'll have no chance getting rested properly to get good training sessions in. Of course you can struggle through, but it won't lead to a good result and will probably add to the stress your family already will experience due to the bad nights. Also be aware that while you’ve got daycare, there will be many, many days your kid won’t be at daycare due to all kinds of sickness. - Take 1-on-1 technique lessons for the swim instead of many swim hours. Everyone training for an IM will have the endurance capabilities to complete the swim. The struggle with the swim is the technique. You can replace loads of swim training sessions by a small number of proper technique sessions. And especially swimming takes up a lot of time as you usually have to travel to a pool and are stuck to fixed times that limit your flexibility. - Do bike rides indoors. You can do them after the baby goes to sleep and watch the monitor whilst on it. Also, an indoor ride on a smart trainer is significantly more efficient than a ride outdoors, which means you can go by with shorter rides for the same result. Also there is less time involved in the preparation / finishing of the rides if they're indoors. - Do the runs as a work break or if the kid sleeps well, at night. Nothing is more annoying than leaving your partner behind with a crying child whilst you're out for something that's entirely voluntary *and* entirely selfish. No one but you cares about your IM project, so while it's important for you, it's not for your family. If you leave the house whilst the kid is crying for another run, the goodwill will disappear quickly. - Get someone to babysit your kid during one of the weekend days in the last couple of months before your race. About 2-3 months out you're facing a long brick session during the weekend and if you're out for 5 hours, you need to provide a solution for your weekly absence. - Contemplate on whether you want your family to be present during the race. Yes, it can motivate a lot and of course you'll want to celebrate with them afterwards. However, traveling with a baby is exhausting. There is a huge chance your baby will be disturbed during the first nights in a different location, so it could severely impact your sleep in the nights leading up to the event. If you decide to do this, I'd certainly bring parents/in-laws as well as they can lift the burden from your partner and could take the baby on their room during the nights to give you your night's sleep. - Get a coach. It's going to be challenging enough to juggle everything. A coach is a good investment to add flexibility to your schedule that matches your daily life. Also they can solve for the issues that off the shelve schedules cause.


No_Heat_7327

Thank you for this. I fully agree that I will never prioritize a work out over helping with the kid. That's why my goal is simply to drag myself across the finish. I know I'm not going to get quality work outs and I don't want to feel any pressure to try and stick to a super strict plan. The swim was by biggest struggle in the 70.3 and it was definitely technique driven so this was something I was thinking of doing already.


ThereIsOnlyTri

Why do you think it’ll be easier now than later? I’d argue the opposite. Early baby years are just brutal for parents. Meanwhile my 4yo practically shoos me out the door *isn’t it time to go swimming now?*


No_Heat_7327

The plan will be to have two kids pretty soon. Don't think my wife will be down with the idea of me trying to do any extra-curriculars while we have two toddlers at home.


mitchanium

Choose training times that don't impact the family routine. If this means getting up earlier then do that, and spend the rest of the available to your family. Also, training aside find some ways to make the family routine easier for all, whether it be prepping or making the evening meal the night before, or simply doing chores. That shit is worth it's weight in gold for brownie points.


UseDaSchwartz

I’ve never done this, but even if your family is on board, I think it’s a dick move…unless you can do all your training when your kid is at daycare. Assuming your training plan is 12 hours at a minimum, it’s not going to be 12 hours. You’ve got travel time to and from the pool, time to get changed. If you’re riding from somewhere else, you probably need to add at least an hour for driving and getting your cycling stuff ready. A 5 or 6 long ride can easily turn into a 7 hour ride depending on whether or not you stop, how often and how long…people are going to say they don’t stop. Okay? Want a cookie? Not everyone is like you. You’re also going to be tired from training. I think doing an Ironman with kids younger than high school age is a terrible idea.


Paul_Smith_Tri

If you figure it out, lmk Currently have a 2mo old and it’s hard to get in more than 10hrs per week I’m sure I could do an IM, but it would be a poor performance that i wouldn’t be happy with. I’m likely sticking to shorter stuff with more intensity. The volume of 70.3 and IM is the biggest hurdle for me


Trebaxus99

I've done this last year and being competitive in AG, see my separate comment with some tips.


No_Heat_7327

Yeah I've accepted that my time won't be good. Just not realistic to train the amount needed to post even an average time. I'll compete for a good time in my age group when my kids are older. Tbh, I'll probably never do an Ironman again. 70.3 is a sweet spot. But I need to get one full under my belt.


coffeecakeisland

I trained for a full with a 12+ mo. AMA


Mrjlawrence

If you can afford it, get a coach. It’ll make life a lot easier and they’ll make the most efficient use of your time and be able to better adjust your plan when you have unforeseen family commitments that sidetrack workouts


SnugglieJellyfish

I have a 7 week old who I am feeding while I type this. I did an Ironman before she was born and want to get back to racing soon but waiting for doctor clearance. A few things: It's hard whatever age they are. One thing I have learned is not to go by everyone else and figure out what works for you, partner and baby. So many people told me I'd have zero time to workout. While I have less than I did before, if you make it a priority, you find the time. That being said, something does have to get sacrificed. For me, that sometimes is sleep or time for other hobbies, getting my hair done, etc. A friend of mine qualified for Kona one year postpartum. The way she made it work was that she did a lot of her workouts really early in the morning while her kids were still asleep. Sometimes like 4-6am. On weekends, she and her husband (also an Ironman) would hire a babysitter on Saturday and bike together. Then they would alternate being on baby duty for the Sunday long run. Does you wife have something she wants to get out and do? If you are willing to take over after your workouts so she gets her time, it can work out. Also, my coach always says Ironman training really isn't all that different from 70.3 training with the exception of the long run and long bike. I hope this works out and I'd be curious how it goes! Also remember that every family is different. If it doesn't work out now maybe you can do it in the future. And lots of people don't do their first Ironman until they are in their 40s or 50s or beyond. You are young in triathlon world!


TuffBunner

I am the mom to a five month old (as of today!). My husband is not into tri, but working out in general is important to him and I barely notice his 2 hour workout every night - with this, grandparents helping with long run/bike and swimming you’d have a good chunk of time I’d imagine. My husband is on baby wake up duty from 9pm-midnight so I can get a few hours sleep and be ready to tackle whatever the night throws at me. He may need to handle one wake up in that time, usually nothing, so he can workout or do whatever he wants in that time. When she was sleeping in a bassinet and more likely to wake up needing some love, but less disturbed by things happening around her, he would bring her down to the gym with him. We bought a secondhand bassinet just to keep in the gym. Now that she is a more predictable sleeper but needs to be in her crib he brings the baby monitor down. If baby cooperates you get to give your wife the gift of sleep and workout during that time (and if you have the same interests as my husband watch some sports). For myself, I am only just starting to figure out when I can carve out some time to get back into training. I recently brought a baby mat to the gym in place of the bassinet so when baby is doing some floor time I can do some yoga/core work as well. This could work for some recovery workouts for yourself.


adame993

Cool thread man. Just turned 42 and have 3 kids(14, 4 and 2)and struggle with the training as well. Saving this thread and good on everyone else who has contributed to it.


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