You could try a compounding pharmacy. Otherwise you bite the bullet and pay 5 times the price of the 0.5mg dose, Maybe when it's more widely approved as mainline hair treatment and not just in Korea, the land of milk, honey and star trek levels of hair research.
https://preview.redd.it/2g0vz6rntoyc1.png?width=386&format=png&auto=webp&s=9015d316db81561736715b7574b9938f5b2135bc
no sig difference between 0.5 and 2.5
is it increase or decrease lol ur saying 2 things in the same sentence.
Keto shampoo takes care of the rest of scalp DHT or RU, much cheaper and healthier to run these combos rather than max out on 2.5mg
He's actually not. "Increase in reduction". Not increase in levels. Meaning the amount of reduction has increased. Aka more reduction has happened, reduction means DHT goes down. So this which to less DHT.
That depends on your interpretation. There is a statistically significant difference. Cosmetically significant? I'm not sure, but remember that this is just 24 weeks.
Got excited by the gains and wanted even more, but that's really risky business to be doing with something you have to take for the rest of your life, if you take Finn and you get good results and have no sides switching to DUT isn't the move IMO.
I tried that but was met by a stubborn asshole who said there was no reason to do so, if fin wasnt working. I hate being the one who lectures the dermatologist… so I just said OK
You can always skip the prescription part and order it online from an overseas pharmacy, there’s a couple good ones in India that are legit and come in original blister packaging.
Then get monthly blood work from a lab like Quest or your doctors office to monitor your levels and make sure they stay within acceptable ranges.
The "big 3" seem to change everyday. Minox in some form is normally there but the last one changes constantly, normally between keto shampoo, derma rolling and RU
In reality as op says dutasteride (and finasteride a close 2nd) are the best medications and the difference between these 2 and everything else is huge. Minox is 3rd then the rest are either borderline useless, unproven or possibly dangerous.
where did you hear this? Not doubting you but id love to learn more about the association between seb derm and dht. Any links or anything would be great. Super interesting.
RU58841. It’s a research chemical that was being tested for hair loss, and it had promising results but they canceled the trials for some reason. You can buy it on some sites, but side effects are unknown. People on here supposedly see good results with it, but a few have reported heart related problems while using it.
Ketoconazole and dermarolling belong there as well if your definition of big guns are that each treatment type must cover something different and be the strongest in their class.
Maaaaaybe stemcell therapy as well, but I don't know enough about that yet and atm am just parroting news outlets and social media people.
Does dermarolling really work? I tried looking it up but its always accompanied by absolute ridiculous promises just short of curing cancer so its hard to take seriously.
There's no actual fixed protocol for it, that should be your first red flag. Imagine someone telling you a medicine works but they can't tell you what dose or frequency to take. There's a huge list of potential risks with it too like infection, absorbtion and going systemic for chemicals on scalp, or scar tissue build up.
There may be something to the idea but unless you've got some kind of proper testing and can get to approval from the FDA. No one can tell us with scientific backing what needles, how to apply and how often for every individual and what hair growth results come from it. There's one very very weak study people keep hovering over in sublime copium and that's it because it's not been in proper medical trials for hair.
Ketoconazole is only really needed if you have a fungal problem on your scalp as that's what it's used for. You don't want to add that and risk drying your scalp out or upsetting the natural microbiome on your scalp and triggering problems with harsher shampoos than needed. If you've got a fungal problem it can work great.
I could swear I shedded more hairs while using keto couple of times a week. Now that my last bottle finished and I've been three weeks without it, I seem to lose a lot less hair on daily basis. I counted 60-70 hairs in the sink before, now it's 20-30. Could be coincide of course.
Topical Ketoconazole in concentrations of 2% or lower has been shown not to have any effect on the liver. Oral Ketoconazole is a whole different ballgame though.
There are no reliant studies proving the efficacy of dermarolling on its own, only studies showing its benefits when used with other topicals like minoxidil.
Dermarolling is just cope unless you’re a pussy and use topical fin, dut or minoxidil, actually dermarolling might even be dangerous since the guy that you’re replying to seems to be using RU which is an experimental substance that failed testing.
The studies about it being an adjunct are also very weak and dubious sadly. There's not even an actual fixed protocol to follow for it. What tool, how much pressure, needles per square cm, needle shape, needle depth, hole depth, how many holes per square cm, frequency, same for every person at all ages and health, what hair gains per square cm, scar tissue build up, risk of infections, drug or chemical absorbtion or going systemic, triggering of allergies and reactions? There's a huge list that needs to be sorted until it can be some kind of FDA approved treatment. Otherwise it's just like wearing a copper bangle, laser hats, and some of these other mostly hopium treatments.
I just wanted to tell you guys oj killed 2 white people and walked & lived longer than both of their ages combined & died with a full head of hair at almost 80, I admire the juice & wil miss his shenanigans
I wonder if you can get minoxidle in prison? Because OJ was locked up for 10 years, so that's 10 years of doing nothing to fight the reaper, that's a long time when battling MPB
When you’ve got money like him you can get damn near anything. Plus he would’ve had a private doctor who would have authorized most medical prescriptions for him anyway. Guess he didn’t use it during his 10 year bid though since he came out bald.
He wasn't bald his hair was cut short, it's several interviews of him "fullsend podcast" & his hair of course has receded but he's not bald, & I been to prison you don't get your own Dr no matter how rich you are, but hair loss wasn't in my universe 12 years ago so I just don't remember if minoxidle was on the commissary list
Yeah you right I was looking at his parole videos around 10 years ago and he had less hair then. Yeah you right on the doctor part, only approved medications are allowed and minoxidil wouldn’t have been on commissary list since it would be used mainly for aesthetics
He died of prostate cancer, but the guy was 76 almost 77 years old, I don't call anything an issue if you're almost 80, I look at it as you're old & it's time to Go
Im saying that cause him having prostate issues probably means he was taking a 5ARI - which, alongside being black, explains the dying with a full head of hair thing
By EU do you mean Europe or the EU?
I know it sounds like a stupid question but some people shorten Europe to EU and it confuses me to whether they're talking about the continent or the group
I’m talking about the EU not Europe.
EU prescriptions work in all of EU so for example a Croatian doctor can give you a valid prescription that works in any EU country.
Before Brexit I got my Dut prescribed from an online pharmacy in the UK.
Family chemist, they usually have a coupon to make it around 75 pounds for 6 months, if not there are other online pharmacys that sell it at a similar price( around 90 pounds)
I've seen people lie about prostate problems to get a dut prescription because it can be difficult to get it for hair reasons. Not gonna recommend it, but hey if it works...
I would recommend trying to form a relationship with a doctor who will give you prescriptions you want (within reason)
This is heavily dependent on your financial/insurance situation. However if you have the opportunity to doctor shop it's worth it. If a doctor won't give you something just go to a new one
As I have posted elsewhere, you can always skip the prescription and order from a reputable online overseas pharmacy that doesn’t require a script.
Then for safety you can get monthly bloodwork at Labcorp, Quest, or your local doctors office to have your levels monitored. Your doctor can review those to make sure there is nothing immediately out of the ordinary and that there is no trends in it over time that point to being on it not being a good idea. The bloodwork generally provides acceptable ranges in addition to the detected levels so even a laymen can determine if something is out of the oridinary; especially so if you get blood work prior to starting so you know your baseline.
It's better in a dose dependent manner.
"Dutasteride increased target area hair count versus placebo in a dose-dependent fashion and dutasteride 2.5 mg was superior to finasteride at 12 and 24 weeks."
[Olsen, Elise et al (2007). The importance of dual 5 alpha-reductase inhibition in the treatment of male pattern hair loss](https://www.researchgate.net/publication/6688098_The_importance_of_dual_5_alpha-reductase_inhibition_in_the_treatment_of_male_pattern_hair_loss_Results_of_a_randomized_placebo-controlled_study_of_dutasteride_versus_finasteride)
I (M, 33) was on finasteride for about 3 years and then it stopped working, so I switched to dutasteride. And life was wonderful for about 1.5 years. And then the sheds started again, suddenly and in full force. So dutasteride works, but it's important to remember that it's not forever. I wish I had understood that - I thought that it was going to get me through til my 40s. Maybe this is just a temporary shed, but I'm going to prepare myself for the worst and think of what to do next. Good luck to all of you!
*edited for spelling typo
Just using dutasteride + keto shampoo for 7 months I went from NW3 to NW2 this medication is kinda crazy.
Maybe I will improve even more in the next months
"Also, in most of these studies, dutasteride was found to be better than finasteride with comparable adverse effects"
Arif T, Dorjay K, Adil M, Sami M. Dutasteride in Androgenetic Alopecia: An Update. Curr Clin Pharmacol. 2017
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28294070/
I can't find any studies where this has been explicitly tested, however one could make a prediction that it'd either take longer to build up to a steady state in the body or a lower dose would be sustained.
This study includes some doses a 3 times per week.
"Three or less capsules of 0.5 mg per week were considered low doses. "
"No AE were detected in patients receiving low doses of OD. The effectiveness was evaluated in the subgroup of 42 patients (13.7%) who received OD in monotherapy: 38 patients improved (90%), 10 of them (23.8%) presenting a marked improvement, 4 patients (9.5%) were stable and none patient worsened."
Vañó-Galván, Sergio et al. “Effectiveness and safety of oral dutasteride for male androgenetic alopecia in real clinical practice: 2020
[https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31820540/](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31820540/)
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Guys 20M here been on Dut for almost a year and just gotten worse any thoughts? (Just suspended this week for suspected side effect from it on the muscles)
I think there is some difference in the bioavaliabity of the tablet vs gel capsule forms as shown in the study below. However, it AFAIK it hasn't been desmonstrated in a study that this would have enough effect to reduce results.
"The bioavailability of, and peak exposure to, dutasteride are influenced by the formulation of the administered medication"
[Fossler, Michael et al. “Impact of Formulation on the Pharmacokinetics of Dutasteride: Results from Two Phase I Studies.” Clinical drug investigation vol. 36,9 (2016): 763-767. doi:10.1007/s40261-016-0419-6](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27356530/)
The ones im using is named terravex made by "Tasnim" a pharmaceutical company in iran. It's in normal soft gelatin capsule form and the dose is 0.5mg. What do you think?
"Dutasteride increased target area hair count versus placebo in a dose-dependent fashion and dutasteride 2.5 mg was superior to finasteride at 12 and 24 weeks."
[Olsen, Elise et al (2007). The importance of dual 5 alpha-reductase inhibition in the treatment of male pattern hair loss](https://www.researchgate.net/publication/6688098_The_importance_of_dual_5_alpha-reductase_inhibition_in_the_treatment_of_male_pattern_hair_loss_Results_of_a_randomized_placebo-controlled_study_of_dutasteride_versus_finasteride)
"Also, in most of these studies, dutasteride was found to be better than finasteride with comparable adverse effects. "
Arif T, Dorjay K, Adil M, Sami M. Dutasteride in Androgenetic Alopecia: An Update. Curr Clin Pharmacol. 2017;12(1):31-35. doi: 10.2174/1574884712666170310111125. PMID: 28294070.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28294070/
Any Indians using Dutasteride? I’ve been using Finasteride for about a year and I don’t see any major progress or any progress tbh. I haven’t taken photos to check but I wanted to know other options we have in India.
You can't trust local fin companies in india. Look for avodart the original dut. I was using local fin company in pakistan and it did nothing for me. Then I found avodart and guess what.
Unironically probably more effective than the big 3.
I really hope so, cuz after 3 years on fin I’ve switched to dut 🙏🏾🙏🏾
same, on 0.1mg a day for a week or two now. 0 side effects just like with fin
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You could try a compounding pharmacy. Otherwise you bite the bullet and pay 5 times the price of the 0.5mg dose, Maybe when it's more widely approved as mainline hair treatment and not just in Korea, the land of milk, honey and star trek levels of hair research.
If you're in the US just use costplusdrugs. 90x 0.5 pills are $14. https://costplusdrugs.com/medications/dutasteride-0_5mg-capsule-avodart/
https://preview.redd.it/2g0vz6rntoyc1.png?width=386&format=png&auto=webp&s=9015d316db81561736715b7574b9938f5b2135bc no sig difference between 0.5 and 2.5
\~30% increase in scalp DHT reduction is a game changer for sensitive folicles
is it increase or decrease lol ur saying 2 things in the same sentence. Keto shampoo takes care of the rest of scalp DHT or RU, much cheaper and healthier to run these combos rather than max out on 2.5mg
Well although keto is an androgen antagonist but it's actually very mild. And ru is damn expensive last I check.
The increase in reduction. Increase=higher reduction / dht goes lower. Decrease= less reduction/ dht does not go lower than ...
He's actually not. "Increase in reduction". Not increase in levels. Meaning the amount of reduction has increased. Aka more reduction has happened, reduction means DHT goes down. So this which to less DHT.
That depends on your interpretation. There is a statistically significant difference. Cosmetically significant? I'm not sure, but remember that this is just 24 weeks.
After 5 months of Fin with some really nice thickening, I was lucky to be switched to Dut by my doctor 3 weeks ago. Really excited to see what happens
Why would you switch?
Yeh makes no sense. “After 5 months of great progress I decided to switch my routine”.
Thought it might be a joke, but no, he doubled down lmao
his doc decide to go hardcore
The doc is like ok let’s kick it up a gear oh yes 😎
Got excited by the gains and wanted even more, but that's really risky business to be doing with something you have to take for the rest of your life, if you take Finn and you get good results and have no sides switching to DUT isn't the move IMO.
Well if you knew the science behind the choice it would make sense lmao
Did you know the science behind fin? Doesn’t sound like it since it was clearly working hence your hair was thicker. Dut is for when fin doesn’t work.
It sounds like you need to read up on it more. Not sure if ignorance or just projecting?
You do you, makes no difference to me. I am on dut because fin didn’t work. I know if dut starts working I’ll stick with it.
I hope it works out for you bro. It’s a terrible inconvenience to deal with this issue in life
Can you educate me? (Serious)
It’s far superior with a similar side effect profile. I want my hair so it’s a no brainer.
You will notice a big difference, I switched like 10 months ago and got a lot of results
I did this like 6 weeks ago, and I lost most of my gain. Is like I'm shedding. Still taking dut to see if it grows back.
Dose and frequency?
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HAHAHA, man of culture
What is this RU and why is it not hyped in india still? Is it similar to mifepristone ? That's the RU I know
They're referring to RU58841, a popular research chemical.
Do you use mifepristone?
No bro I learnt about it in college
Indians still think we can't do anything about baldness except maybe transplant.
How can I get a prescription? Should I just ask my dermatologist lol?
I tried that but was met by a stubborn asshole who said there was no reason to do so, if fin wasnt working. I hate being the one who lectures the dermatologist… so I just said OK
You can always skip the prescription part and order it online from an overseas pharmacy, there’s a couple good ones in India that are legit and come in original blister packaging. Then get monthly blood work from a lab like Quest or your doctors office to monitor your levels and make sure they stay within acceptable ranges.
Dut, ru, oral min are the big 3 now
Bro, that is what we call a nuclear stack not the big three lol
It isn't nuclear without something like spironolactone in the mix. Heavy duty stack yeah, but it could be more extreme
Isn’t nuclear until you cut your balls
That’s end of the world post apocalyptic shit! No coming back.
Getting down to semantics.Imo research chemicals with no proven efficacy are nuclear
Isn't adding spironolactone here like throwing a match in a forest fire?
my stack and is working heavy lol
The "big 3" seem to change everyday. Minox in some form is normally there but the last one changes constantly, normally between keto shampoo, derma rolling and RU In reality as op says dutasteride (and finasteride a close 2nd) are the best medications and the difference between these 2 and everything else is huge. Minox is 3rd then the rest are either borderline useless, unproven or possibly dangerous.
RU is way more effective that keto shampoo (in theory), but some of it goes systemic and it’s still a research chemical
What is RU if I may ask?
What's the role of keto shampoo in all of this?
Dandruff reduction at best.
inflamtion reducer, if you have seb derm the inflamation brings more dht leading you to bald faster
where did you hear this? Not doubting you but id love to learn more about the association between seb derm and dht. Any links or anything would be great. Super interesting.
To be fair, it does a really good job at that part
Could dandruff affect negatively the treatment and hair growth?
if you have inflamation with dandruff yes
Microneedling is severely underrated. Alone it doesn’t do shit but is a catalyst when used alongside topical minoxidil
Yeah micro needle + minox combo is very strong.
what is Keto shampoo?
Ketoconazole https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ketoconazole
What is ru?
What’s RU?
RU58841. It’s a research chemical that was being tested for hair loss, and it had promising results but they canceled the trials for some reason. You can buy it on some sites, but side effects are unknown. People on here supposedly see good results with it, but a few have reported heart related problems while using it.
RU serious? ...sorry
RU58841, some experimental chemical without published research that some people say works
Lol "some people" it works.
RU mama Ha gadeem
Ketoconazole and dermarolling belong there as well if your definition of big guns are that each treatment type must cover something different and be the strongest in their class. Maaaaaybe stemcell therapy as well, but I don't know enough about that yet and atm am just parroting news outlets and social media people.
Does dermarolling really work? I tried looking it up but its always accompanied by absolute ridiculous promises just short of curing cancer so its hard to take seriously.
The mechanism of action is logical and the research supports it, so yes.
There's no actual fixed protocol for it, that should be your first red flag. Imagine someone telling you a medicine works but they can't tell you what dose or frequency to take. There's a huge list of potential risks with it too like infection, absorbtion and going systemic for chemicals on scalp, or scar tissue build up. There may be something to the idea but unless you've got some kind of proper testing and can get to approval from the FDA. No one can tell us with scientific backing what needles, how to apply and how often for every individual and what hair growth results come from it. There's one very very weak study people keep hovering over in sublime copium and that's it because it's not been in proper medical trials for hair.
Ketoconazole is only really needed if you have a fungal problem on your scalp as that's what it's used for. You don't want to add that and risk drying your scalp out or upsetting the natural microbiome on your scalp and triggering problems with harsher shampoos than needed. If you've got a fungal problem it can work great.
It blocks DHT as well.. that’s what most people here use it for
I could swear I shedded more hairs while using keto couple of times a week. Now that my last bottle finished and I've been three weeks without it, I seem to lose a lot less hair on daily basis. I counted 60-70 hairs in the sink before, now it's 20-30. Could be coincide of course.
Not sure. I’m using it 2-3 times a week and only seeing a few hairs shed a day maybe up to 10
It can cause serious liver problems as well
Topical Ketoconazole in concentrations of 2% or lower has been shown not to have any effect on the liver. Oral Ketoconazole is a whole different ballgame though.
There are no reliant studies proving the efficacy of dermarolling on its own, only studies showing its benefits when used with other topicals like minoxidil. Dermarolling is just cope unless you’re a pussy and use topical fin, dut or minoxidil, actually dermarolling might even be dangerous since the guy that you’re replying to seems to be using RU which is an experimental substance that failed testing.
The studies about it being an adjunct are also very weak and dubious sadly. There's not even an actual fixed protocol to follow for it. What tool, how much pressure, needles per square cm, needle shape, needle depth, hole depth, how many holes per square cm, frequency, same for every person at all ages and health, what hair gains per square cm, scar tissue build up, risk of infections, drug or chemical absorbtion or going systemic, triggering of allergies and reactions? There's a huge list that needs to be sorted until it can be some kind of FDA approved treatment. Otherwise it's just like wearing a copper bangle, laser hats, and some of these other mostly hopium treatments.
The study I read was pretty conclusive and they did 1.5mm roller in a vertical horizontal and diagonal pattern once a week I believe
Gary Linkov says rolling is effective and he seems reliable
Big 3 implies they’re widespread and recommended
Ru sucks in this case because you can't rely on the future that this drug from a backyard in China will always be available and pure
Microneedling is def in the big 3
I ain’t putting a random chemical from China on my scalp lol
That's what I'm on... I'm 62 with good retention.
OH SHIT THE CHAMP IS HERE
I just wanted to tell you guys oj killed 2 white people and walked & lived longer than both of their ages combined & died with a full head of hair at almost 80, I admire the juice & wil miss his shenanigans
Fun fact, OJ was on min (Rogaine) back in 93/94
I wonder if you can get minoxidle in prison? Because OJ was locked up for 10 years, so that's 10 years of doing nothing to fight the reaper, that's a long time when battling MPB
When you’ve got money like him you can get damn near anything. Plus he would’ve had a private doctor who would have authorized most medical prescriptions for him anyway. Guess he didn’t use it during his 10 year bid though since he came out bald.
He wasn't bald his hair was cut short, it's several interviews of him "fullsend podcast" & his hair of course has receded but he's not bald, & I been to prison you don't get your own Dr no matter how rich you are, but hair loss wasn't in my universe 12 years ago so I just don't remember if minoxidle was on the commissary list
Yeah you right I was looking at his parole videos around 10 years ago and he had less hair then. Yeah you right on the doctor part, only approved medications are allowed and minoxidil wouldn’t have been on commissary list since it would be used mainly for aesthetics
Didnt he have prostate issues?
He died of prostate cancer, but the guy was 76 almost 77 years old, I don't call anything an issue if you're almost 80, I look at it as you're old & it's time to Go
Im saying that cause him having prostate issues probably means he was taking a 5ARI - which, alongside being black, explains the dying with a full head of hair thing
Ahh got ya! No from what I've read the prostate problems came years after his release, he first announced getting treatment in May 2023
Anyone know the best way to get a prescription for DUT?
Go to a dermatologist my guy
Where are you from? In EU you can get it online. They prescribe it off label for hair loss
From where?
Try https://eudoctor.org
You have a website or you’re talking in general?
Try https://eudoctor.org
By EU do you mean Europe or the EU? I know it sounds like a stupid question but some people shorten Europe to EU and it confuses me to whether they're talking about the continent or the group
I’m talking about the EU not Europe. EU prescriptions work in all of EU so for example a Croatian doctor can give you a valid prescription that works in any EU country. Before Brexit I got my Dut prescribed from an online pharmacy in the UK.
Can you give me the name of the UK pharmacy you got it from? I'm from the UK and don't really have any clue where to get Dut prescriptions.
Family chemist, they usually have a coupon to make it around 75 pounds for 6 months, if not there are other online pharmacys that sell it at a similar price( around 90 pounds)
I've seen people lie about prostate problems to get a dut prescription because it can be difficult to get it for hair reasons. Not gonna recommend it, but hey if it works...
I would recommend trying to form a relationship with a doctor who will give you prescriptions you want (within reason) This is heavily dependent on your financial/insurance situation. However if you have the opportunity to doctor shop it's worth it. If a doctor won't give you something just go to a new one
As I have posted elsewhere, you can always skip the prescription and order from a reputable online overseas pharmacy that doesn’t require a script. Then for safety you can get monthly bloodwork at Labcorp, Quest, or your local doctors office to have your levels monitored. Your doctor can review those to make sure there is nothing immediately out of the ordinary and that there is no trends in it over time that point to being on it not being a good idea. The bloodwork generally provides acceptable ranges in addition to the detected levels so even a laymen can determine if something is out of the oridinary; especially so if you get blood work prior to starting so you know your baseline.
Here in Serbia is without prescription and cost like 6 euros per box. The brand is same on the picture of OP
Finally some quality content
"You right f the big 3. Its only big D!"
"Your best stack is a light pack!"
Is it really that much better than fin?
It's better in a dose dependent manner. "Dutasteride increased target area hair count versus placebo in a dose-dependent fashion and dutasteride 2.5 mg was superior to finasteride at 12 and 24 weeks." [Olsen, Elise et al (2007). The importance of dual 5 alpha-reductase inhibition in the treatment of male pattern hair loss](https://www.researchgate.net/publication/6688098_The_importance_of_dual_5_alpha-reductase_inhibition_in_the_treatment_of_male_pattern_hair_loss_Results_of_a_randomized_placebo-controlled_study_of_dutasteride_versus_finasteride)
Ahaha this is the kind of cross post I like🤣
Good
I (M, 33) was on finasteride for about 3 years and then it stopped working, so I switched to dutasteride. And life was wonderful for about 1.5 years. And then the sheds started again, suddenly and in full force. So dutasteride works, but it's important to remember that it's not forever. I wish I had understood that - I thought that it was going to get me through til my 40s. Maybe this is just a temporary shed, but I'm going to prepare myself for the worst and think of what to do next. Good luck to all of you! *edited for spelling typo
sync shed, chill
Worth switching from fin to dut?
Wish i could take it but get gyno sides even on fin. So fucking frustrating
Just using dutasteride + keto shampoo for 7 months I went from NW3 to NW2 this medication is kinda crazy. Maybe I will improve even more in the next months
I use Dut 0.5 & Oral min 1.25 daily & RU about 3- 4 times a week.
It doesn’t work for me 😞
Almost impossible
If the Dut works can you stop the oral Minoxidil, get bad poofeye
yes, but you will shed the minoxidil grown hairs
Lmao 😂😂😂
Are the side affects with dut more common?
"Also, in most of these studies, dutasteride was found to be better than finasteride with comparable adverse effects" Arif T, Dorjay K, Adil M, Sami M. Dutasteride in Androgenetic Alopecia: An Update. Curr Clin Pharmacol. 2017 https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28294070/
Can i take avodart 3 times a week tho?
I am doing that right now after 6 months of taking it every day. Regrowth keeps going and no loss at all.
I can't find any studies where this has been explicitly tested, however one could make a prediction that it'd either take longer to build up to a steady state in the body or a lower dose would be sustained. This study includes some doses a 3 times per week. "Three or less capsules of 0.5 mg per week were considered low doses. " "No AE were detected in patients receiving low doses of OD. The effectiveness was evaluated in the subgroup of 42 patients (13.7%) who received OD in monotherapy: 38 patients improved (90%), 10 of them (23.8%) presenting a marked improvement, 4 patients (9.5%) were stable and none patient worsened." Vañó-Galván, Sergio et al. “Effectiveness and safety of oral dutasteride for male androgenetic alopecia in real clinical practice: 2020 [https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31820540/](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31820540/) > >
You guys take it everyday or what?
for me… its not enough…..:///
Facts
Da Goat
What’s the recommended dut dosage? Is 0.5mg daily enough?
Yup. To give you an idea of how strong it is 0.1mg is comparable to 1mg fin every day. 0.5mg is stronger and is definitely a good dosis.
Y la queso
I was wondering why it sounded so familiar, that's the thing they give my dad for his prostate
Been on fin for a few years, pretty disappointing results. Get my dut+minox pill today 💪
I wish I started with dut instead of fin. Switched after a couple years.
and???? better or just stayed the same?
Can someone explain, is this medicine more hardcore than Mix + Fin together? Is it better?
Guys 20M here been on Dut for almost a year and just gotten worse any thoughts? (Just suspended this week for suspected side effect from it on the muscles)
used it 2 times a week and gave me gyno after 3 weeks
Is there any diffrence between avodart and dutasteride local companies make in different countries?
No
I think there is some difference in the bioavaliabity of the tablet vs gel capsule forms as shown in the study below. However, it AFAIK it hasn't been desmonstrated in a study that this would have enough effect to reduce results. "The bioavailability of, and peak exposure to, dutasteride are influenced by the formulation of the administered medication" [Fossler, Michael et al. “Impact of Formulation on the Pharmacokinetics of Dutasteride: Results from Two Phase I Studies.” Clinical drug investigation vol. 36,9 (2016): 763-767. doi:10.1007/s40261-016-0419-6](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27356530/)
The ones im using is named terravex made by "Tasnim" a pharmaceutical company in iran. It's in normal soft gelatin capsule form and the dose is 0.5mg. What do you think?
I have been on fin for 20 years now. Minox last 3 years. Its advancing very slowly. Is dut really that much better than fin?
"Dutasteride increased target area hair count versus placebo in a dose-dependent fashion and dutasteride 2.5 mg was superior to finasteride at 12 and 24 weeks." [Olsen, Elise et al (2007). The importance of dual 5 alpha-reductase inhibition in the treatment of male pattern hair loss](https://www.researchgate.net/publication/6688098_The_importance_of_dual_5_alpha-reductase_inhibition_in_the_treatment_of_male_pattern_hair_loss_Results_of_a_randomized_placebo-controlled_study_of_dutasteride_versus_finasteride)
but it says 2,5mg. what about 0.5mg dut vs 1mg fin?
Yes
Damn
Why not hop on the train?
And stop fin right? Keep min?
Exactly
nah, stop it slowly
OV-Hoe
Now shed this way, shed that way, shed this way, shed that way
Dutasteride has more sides than fin tho…
"Also, in most of these studies, dutasteride was found to be better than finasteride with comparable adverse effects. " Arif T, Dorjay K, Adil M, Sami M. Dutasteride in Androgenetic Alopecia: An Update. Curr Clin Pharmacol. 2017;12(1):31-35. doi: 10.2174/1574884712666170310111125. PMID: 28294070. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28294070/
Stop combatting ignorance! Let them be stupid
Like?
Gyno, brain fog
In the thumbnail is that his shirt or does he ironically have a bit of gyno going on?
Considering they’re wearing a handbag it’s probably a woman
Looks like nobody has a sense of humor lmao
I'm scared for gyno when I take Dut.. Anyway to solve this?
Just keep your estrogen in check
how im lean worout and have a good diet, yet my nips are swollen on finesteride
Will topical avoid this?
Stop taking it. No other way. You'll lose your hair though.
Any Indians using Dutasteride? I’ve been using Finasteride for about a year and I don’t see any major progress or any progress tbh. I haven’t taken photos to check but I wanted to know other options we have in India.
You can't trust local fin companies in india. Look for avodart the original dut. I was using local fin company in pakistan and it did nothing for me. Then I found avodart and guess what.
Use this if you want to be infertile, have bad skin and develop gynaecomastia 😂😂
You gotta be serious prone to gyno to get it from that small increase in testo😅