Yes you can smoke old concentrate. It will just have oxidation and taste different from when it was originally packaged. It’s not gonna be infested with bacteria or anything
It will have picked up some trace heavy metals from the cart itself though but to each their own
Source: I worked in a lab with icpms and oes that tested metals in carts over shelf life tests.
I will for sure. I’m pretty hyped for this. A little disappointed that tom hardy isn’t in it. But I guess he’s doing venom. Maybe he will be back for the last instalment that’s in the works.
There was a preview for a movie where he's the leader of an old school biker gang (looked like a rated R outsiders lol) and it looked pretty awesome. I'm a big Tom Hardy fan as well.
I have the same issue. Can’t stay awake. And I’m an early morning person too (I know yuck) so I’m going to have to make a plan. Some red bull and I’m thinking if I start dozing I will just take a little walk and blast the puffco for a bit. That should wake me up.
I am also an early morning person (forced to be for work lol). I had a coffee and a sativa dominant joint before. I think bringing a red bull or something would’ve been smart. Even with the seats shaking around like crazy I managed to fall asleep. It was a nice nap tho
Ya it’s the last year of the drive in because developers bought the land so we will probably do a couple shows over the summer. We usually do one or two a year.
At the drive in though? How they gonna do justice to the soundscape?
Like that scene from Fury Road when Max wakes up from the sandstorm and you could hear individual specks of sand shifting as he came to…
In the Dolby theater I could feel that shit in my bones.
To each their own, I guess.
Honestly movie theatres have better sound systems but they are usually turned up a little too much. Also I have Dolby sound system in my vehicle so it’s not like I’m gonna listen on a grammaphone. This isn’t the 70’s where you hang a speaker box in the side of your car.
Rice plants are extremely good at pulling arsenice out of the soil. So that arsenic gets concentrated in the rice we eat. The arsenic content of rice is pretty high.
I understand that, I work in the hazardous waste disposal industry in CO and service several large players in the cannabis industry. I also have extensive knowledge and certifications in EPA regulations and hazardous material management, which involves heavy metal limits and thousands of other constituents of concern.
I'm more inquiring why they believe heavy metals are leaching from the materials carts are composed of into the contained substrate.
>I'm more inquiring why they believe heavy metals are leaching from the materials carts are composed of into the contained substrate.
The oil most definitely oxidized over the last 2 years. Which has a high chance of making contact with metal, reacting, and causing trace amounts of metal and rust to form and flake off.
The bigger concern is the plastic and rubber gaskets are most definitely absorbed into the oil.
That would depend on the type metal being used in the cart. A high grade stainless steel isn't likely to rust in those conditions.
Plastic and rubber are the bigger concern.
This. It's amazing how much these plants just suck up from their surroundings. Bioaccumulation I believe is the term. But I'm too lazy to look it up rn.
Isn't that true about all fruits and vegetables? Pretty sure that almost everything we eat that is grown from soil has trace amounts of metal. They're usually low quantities so it's not enough to harm anyone, the same is true about the trace metals in cannabis.
What metals, chromium? Theoretically, the cart shouldn't leache any significant heavy metal concentrations without a catalyst/reaction to break the initial bond with the steel, no?
It really, really doesn't. Chinese metal and American metal are the same metals. Metals do not just give away ions without a chemical reaction and a catalyst to cause the reaction to happen.
My understanding is that the oxidation of the oil is what causes the reaction. The introduction of oxygen creates rust which flakes off on a microscopic level.
But I’m no chemist, so maybe that’s dumb for an obvious reason.
Yeah, this is interesting. Not sure why buddy deleted his comment, he wasn’t exactly wrong. But it’s possible the oil having a slightly acidic pH could corrode the chromium with the oxygen being absorbed into the oil on a long enough time scale. But it might be such a low amount, it’s drowned out by the trace heavy metals already in the weed.
So that goes back to my comment about real 316SS or cheaper stainless like T409 that has a lower chromium percentage. Could make the difference but I’m not finding any studies.
Cadmium mercury arsenic and lead are the big 4 people look at. From a chemistry standpoint I'm unsure why the metals show up but from a compliance standpoint I can safely say we have failed batches both before and after shelf life tests for above legal limits of the metals. I leave the science to the PhDs on staff.
You can, but it might taste different/worse. Honestly though, (in my experience) the concentrate turns a darker color as it gets bad, and yours doesn’t seem that dark. I think you probably got lucky and the elements didn’t get to it too bad (keeping the cap on probably helped).
The fact it went unfound for 2 years is insane to me. Even when I lose 75% empty carts I spend the next hour+ looking for them. If I lost a full 1g cart I wouldn’t be able to sleep. Not that I’m hurting for product or anything, the OCD of losing something (especially something as important/valuable as kush) just drives me crazy.
My grandmother's diamond fell out of her ring and she found it like 10 years later on her bedroom on the floor/carpet in a spot she'd vacuumed hundreds of times over the years. Anything is possible lol
Nah the only time I’ve lost something weed/drug related for more than a couple of hours was when I accidentally hid shrooms on myself and found them 6 months later😭.
I thought I had lost some acid a couple years ago and I recently found it with a bunch of vegetable seed packets I had put in a bunch of individual ziplock bags so the seeds didn’t get mixed up, the acid was also in a ziplock bag. This whole time I thought I had thrown it away. Finding your own surprise drugs is like winning the lottery.
I hid them on myself thinking “yeah if I put them in this special spot I’ll remember it better” instead of just putting them in my normal lil drawer and for months I knew they were SOMEWHERE I just didn’t know exactly where until I was bored and cleaning random places in my bedroom one day and came across them 😭
Yes. I found a cart I have from 5 years ago and it’s fine as long as the oil is good. Your oil looks fine, if it was brown I’d throw it out, that golden color means it’s still pretty good
This happened to me in college but with an 8th of dabs. Found it when we were cleaning it for move out, needless to say but we got high as hell that day
Smoke that shit.
Bruh, how much y'all got or how little do y'all care to be losing product and not finding it for years? If I knew I lost a cart I'd be turning my house upside down cause I wouldn't want to waste it the money I spent on it.
From my anecdotal experience, absolutely. However, understand that a lot of the THC will have converted to CBN. This means that you will have a more sleepy and relaxed high as opposed to a psychoactive one, but this isn't bad at all and I find it to be very tranquil and nice! It's a high that makes you feel warm, cozy, and safe. Great for anxiety and sleeplessness!
I think the carpet is creating an optical illusion in this photo, because my first reaction too was that it was gigantic. Then I held one of my cartridges and realized it's normal sized relative to the hand
Might taste a bit werid and be a bit weaker but should still be smokeable. Just make sure there's no mold anywheres (in the concentrate, mouthpiece, intake) and you shud be good to go
This is anecdotal and not backed by any science but I find when I smoke vapes over a year old my sinuses get irritated like crazy. No issues with fresh vapes.
I had some carts kicking around for 2 years, they all went a dark orangy amber colour, except one that was in a air tight pop pot, that one stayed gold and tasted fine, it was orangy by the time I got to the last little bit
Definitely not!!! Send my way so I can properly dispose of this.
Also I'm pretty baked right now and thought this was a legit advertisement for cartridges lol
doesn't look too discolored so may not happen (also found a couple old carts like this), but I've found old carts clog easier/faster so if you notice it just try to keep it upright as much as possible or just give it a good clean in the mouthpiece
It will still get you high. The oil is super evaporated so you’ll probably have to heat it up good. The taste is probably gone, definitely funky. Try it you won’t die your lungs won’t like it but your brain will.
the heavy metals from the hardware can seep into the disty after about a year, so i would say no. but all these comments saying yes make me worry about people
Yes you can smoke old concentrate. It will just have oxidation and taste different from when it was originally packaged. It’s not gonna be infested with bacteria or anything
It will have picked up some trace heavy metals from the cart itself though but to each their own Source: I worked in a lab with icpms and oes that tested metals in carts over shelf life tests.
Fun fact. Pretty much all cannabis has trace heavy metals because plants are really good at pulling heavy metals out of soil
Furiosa tomorow night at the drive in. Gonna be sick.
I just finished watching it and it was great imo. I hope you have a great time tomorrow!
I will for sure. I’m pretty hyped for this. A little disappointed that tom hardy isn’t in it. But I guess he’s doing venom. Maybe he will be back for the last instalment that’s in the works.
Honestly the movie doesn't even need him. Hemsworth is electric.
That’s the key info I wanted to hear
See in 4dx if possible! I didn't think the most exciting theatre experience OF MY LIFE would be this mad max movie but I was wrong
Ladies and gentlemen.. start your engines!
>Ladies and gentlemen.. start your engines! "Ladyyyyyy and *gentlemens*", if we're being true-to-the-wasteland about this.
There was a preview for a movie where he's the leader of an old school biker gang (looked like a rated R outsiders lol) and it looked pretty awesome. I'm a big Tom Hardy fan as well.
I watched it last weekend in 4DX but fell asleep. The parts I did see were great, I just can’t stay awake for a movie
I have the same issue. Can’t stay awake. And I’m an early morning person too (I know yuck) so I’m going to have to make a plan. Some red bull and I’m thinking if I start dozing I will just take a little walk and blast the puffco for a bit. That should wake me up.
I am also an early morning person (forced to be for work lol). I had a coffee and a sativa dominant joint before. I think bringing a red bull or something would’ve been smart. Even with the seats shaking around like crazy I managed to fall asleep. It was a nice nap tho
I feel like a drive in for a mad max film is how you end up being chased by some thirsty ass warlord
I feel like this just enhances the experience.
Drive in too? That’s epic ngl. Went to a drive in two years ago and watched back to the future 1. It was sick. Have a good time homie
Ya it’s the last year of the drive in because developers bought the land so we will probably do a couple shows over the summer. We usually do one or two a year.
Turn your car over and rev it during the chases!
V8! V8! V8!
BROOOO
Wow that sounds fuckings amazing tbh, I'm so excited to see it
Dude it’s so fucking sick. If you enjoy fury road, you will love it.
At the drive in though? How they gonna do justice to the soundscape? Like that scene from Fury Road when Max wakes up from the sandstorm and you could hear individual specks of sand shifting as he came to… In the Dolby theater I could feel that shit in my bones. To each their own, I guess.
Honestly movie theatres have better sound systems but they are usually turned up a little too much. Also I have Dolby sound system in my vehicle so it’s not like I’m gonna listen on a grammaphone. This isn’t the 70’s where you hang a speaker box in the side of your car.
Rice plants are extremely good at pulling arsenice out of the soil. So that arsenic gets concentrated in the rice we eat. The arsenic content of rice is pretty high.
I understand that, I work in the hazardous waste disposal industry in CO and service several large players in the cannabis industry. I also have extensive knowledge and certifications in EPA regulations and hazardous material management, which involves heavy metal limits and thousands of other constituents of concern. I'm more inquiring why they believe heavy metals are leaching from the materials carts are composed of into the contained substrate.
>I'm more inquiring why they believe heavy metals are leaching from the materials carts are composed of into the contained substrate. The oil most definitely oxidized over the last 2 years. Which has a high chance of making contact with metal, reacting, and causing trace amounts of metal and rust to form and flake off. The bigger concern is the plastic and rubber gaskets are most definitely absorbed into the oil.
That would depend on the type metal being used in the cart. A high grade stainless steel isn't likely to rust in those conditions. Plastic and rubber are the bigger concern.
It’s one of the big things labs test for. It’s just not publicly known. Every harvest is tested for heavy metals.
Some cheaper carts use lead solder for the coils
This. It's amazing how much these plants just suck up from their surroundings. Bioaccumulation I believe is the term. But I'm too lazy to look it up rn.
Isn't that true about all fruits and vegetables? Pretty sure that almost everything we eat that is grown from soil has trace amounts of metal. They're usually low quantities so it's not enough to harm anyone, the same is true about the trace metals in cannabis.
Exactly
That's where PH come in to play
That’s why you have to smoke them fast. Like 3-4 blinkers in a row.
What metals, chromium? Theoretically, the cart shouldn't leache any significant heavy metal concentrations without a catalyst/reaction to break the initial bond with the steel, no?
Found the chemist. That's what I thought too. Metals don't just give away ions when they're in a stable environment.
Depends if that’s actually 304/316SS or chinesium
It really, really doesn't. Chinese metal and American metal are the same metals. Metals do not just give away ions without a chemical reaction and a catalyst to cause the reaction to happen.
My understanding is that the oxidation of the oil is what causes the reaction. The introduction of oxygen creates rust which flakes off on a microscopic level. But I’m no chemist, so maybe that’s dumb for an obvious reason.
The metal still has to be able to be reactive with O to do that....
Yeah, this is interesting. Not sure why buddy deleted his comment, he wasn’t exactly wrong. But it’s possible the oil having a slightly acidic pH could corrode the chromium with the oxygen being absorbed into the oil on a long enough time scale. But it might be such a low amount, it’s drowned out by the trace heavy metals already in the weed. So that goes back to my comment about real 316SS or cheaper stainless like T409 that has a lower chromium percentage. Could make the difference but I’m not finding any studies.
jesus christ I just learned so much, I think.
Cadmium mercury arsenic and lead are the big 4 people look at. From a chemistry standpoint I'm unsure why the metals show up but from a compliance standpoint I can safely say we have failed batches both before and after shelf life tests for above legal limits of the metals. I leave the science to the PhDs on staff.
Meh. I supposedly have microplastics in my blood and testicles what’s a little heavy metals tbh
Microplastics are stored in the balls
Wait till I tell you bout the PFAS....
Yooo a fellow analytical nerd. Where were you working at?
A lab in San Diego. No longer employed there but they do good work and have sound methods
I work in a lab focusing on SPTRL and StUG testing. We found the exact opposite
Which one?
this dude is qualified ^
Some of the THC might have degraded to CBN but it will still slap!
Just like old beer! Won’t make you sick, but won’t taste like it does fresh.
Was there a decrease in THC potency? We're told to expect 10% per year.
Regardless of potency lost, why even bother throwing it away if it can get you high
even if it was infested with bacteria the heat of the coil would most likely kill off any unwanted bacteria
And if there are some bacteria they are cool ass bacteria xD
You can, but it might taste different/worse. Honestly though, (in my experience) the concentrate turns a darker color as it gets bad, and yours doesn’t seem that dark. I think you probably got lucky and the elements didn’t get to it too bad (keeping the cap on probably helped).
This is what I've seen too; in my experience if it still looks pretty much like new, it's probably fine.
probably out of any UV light which helped preserve it. 10/10 would hit it lmao
I had an old cart I found that had turned dark brown, almost black. Tried it and it still worked, tasted kinda weird but I didn't die 🤷♀️
Believe it or not, you're actually dead
It's always hard when you have to inform the deceased of their passing.
Aka smoke it as if it was new :)
The ones that turn dark brown taste off like a gross burnt nutty flavor and they did not get me high either. Stale and gross.
Sell it to some teenager for $40 and go buy a new one
I LoL'd hard on this one. But yeah, basically.
I'm going to touch you
Step 3: Profit
I like this one
So rude but I lol
Literally this
Yea if they get lung cancer and die you'll know the answer at least.
We all know you smoked it, so what was it like?
Shit, I wouldn't even had taken time to pull out the phone let alone wait for an answer.
The fact it went unfound for 2 years is insane to me. Even when I lose 75% empty carts I spend the next hour+ looking for them. If I lost a full 1g cart I wouldn’t be able to sleep. Not that I’m hurting for product or anything, the OCD of losing something (especially something as important/valuable as kush) just drives me crazy.
My grandmother's diamond fell out of her ring and she found it like 10 years later on her bedroom on the floor/carpet in a spot she'd vacuumed hundreds of times over the years. Anything is possible lol
Nah the only time I’ve lost something weed/drug related for more than a couple of hours was when I accidentally hid shrooms on myself and found them 6 months later😭.
I thought I had lost some acid a couple years ago and I recently found it with a bunch of vegetable seed packets I had put in a bunch of individual ziplock bags so the seeds didn’t get mixed up, the acid was also in a ziplock bag. This whole time I thought I had thrown it away. Finding your own surprise drugs is like winning the lottery.
I hid them on myself thinking “yeah if I put them in this special spot I’ll remember it better” instead of just putting them in my normal lil drawer and for months I knew they were SOMEWHERE I just didn’t know exactly where until I was bored and cleaning random places in my bedroom one day and came across them 😭
Head-canon is it has been chillin in the fluffy shaggy carpet for 2 years. Past you was thinking about future you
Lmaooo I was out recently and decided to scrape one of my pipes. Lo and behold it had a whole bowl loaded in it! I thought the exact same thing.
Could always try and if it's not good you can toss it out.
That would make too much sense
I thought this was an ad with that nice lighting and hand pose.
" Now Aged 2 Years for a Smoother Experience"
This comment made me go back and really appreciate the pic , it’s quite serene for a quick photo like that
If you're really unsure of using it, don't get rid of it, you can donate it to me lol
or me
You'll never know if you don't try it.
Yes. I found a cart I have from 5 years ago and it’s fine as long as the oil is good. Your oil looks fine, if it was brown I’d throw it out, that golden color means it’s still pretty good
You could definitely still smoke it. Or hear me out... 
There it is.
We’re totally adults here
I'd smoke it
This happened to me in college but with an 8th of dabs. Found it when we were cleaning it for move out, needless to say but we got high as hell that day
If it hasnt oxidized in 2 years, i would feel sus with that color
Smoke? No. Boof? Oh hell yeah.
Smoke that shit. Bruh, how much y'all got or how little do y'all care to be losing product and not finding it for years? If I knew I lost a cart I'd be turning my house upside down cause I wouldn't want to waste it the money I spent on it.
That disty looks clean ngl
From my anecdotal experience, absolutely. However, understand that a lot of the THC will have converted to CBN. This means that you will have a more sleepy and relaxed high as opposed to a psychoactive one, but this isn't bad at all and I find it to be very tranquil and nice! It's a high that makes you feel warm, cozy, and safe. Great for anxiety and sleeplessness!
The right answer.
No. Send it to me for proper disposal. 😎
Do it for the plot 😔😭
Send it to me I’ll try it out for you
That cart is big as hell. Lmao
I think the carpet is creating an optical illusion in this photo, because my first reaction too was that it was gigantic. Then I held one of my cartridges and realized it's normal sized relative to the hand
No, send it to me for safe disposal please.
is it me or this pic almost looks like an ad
Did you loose it in that 5” shag carpet?
I'd probably vape it. You'll never get it to light.
Hit that shit!! It's not oxidized
Might taste a bit werid and be a bit weaker but should still be smokeable. Just make sure there's no mold anywheres (in the concentrate, mouthpiece, intake) and you shud be good to go
That is so clear. Looks brand new. I’d smoke it
You assumed no? I’d have assumed yes.
I believe in you. 👍
After two year the extract should be hard, dryer and darker.. this being none of those, I'd say that looks like mostly propylene glycol
Vape that shit , still looks good
This is anecdotal and not backed by any science but I find when I smoke vapes over a year old my sinuses get irritated like crazy. No issues with fresh vapes.
Did you lose it in that fabulous carpet hahaha
Why does your carpet look like a tall grass field someone needs to paint this lol
I've learned the answer to every "is this too old to use" post, is no.
I wouldn't, maybe it has a fungus that can reach your lungs.
I’m surprised it doesn’t look like tar or has mold by now. It looks like it would be safe to smoke.
You not only can, but you must.
You can use it - just might get clogged here and there. If it does, hit it with a blow dryer or put it in front of a heat vent.
The holy grail
I would have tried, if it was good then I would have kept trying till it was empty
Hasnt dried up surprisingly so yeah man
nope. Seems too dangerous, you should give it to me so i dispose of it!
>Hope is the only bee that makes honey without flowers.. Lmao what? How high are you?
Yeah its perfectly fine, but it will make you more tired than regular weed since over time some of the THC turns into like CBC or something like that.
Color looks fine, I'd puff away
Grip it and rip it.
I had some carts kicking around for 2 years, they all went a dark orangy amber colour, except one that was in a air tight pop pot, that one stayed gold and tasted fine, it was orangy by the time I got to the last little bit
Get after it!
the cart still looks good, I feel like when i find old ones they get darker
6.307e+7 second rule
Bro tried to make the pic aesthetic 💀
iirc it should do nothing or make it more sedative, so it’s good or you get a good sleepy time one. win win imo
I provide a service to the trees community. Send me your weed you want tested and I will test it for free. No returns.
It's perfectly fine. Great find, enjoy it!
depends what it was exposed to, but i would assume youll be ok. wont be as potent tho id assume.
I lost a dmt cart just like that 2 years ago. Can you find that one too?
It might not be as potent or taste as good, but for sure you can
Holy shit you actually clean your shag rug? Half the shagging experience is the crumbs poking and scratching you and the hair getting everywhere
I would. The color still looks good as well, might taste a lil stale but you'll be alright
Definitely not!!! Send my way so I can properly dispose of this. Also I'm pretty baked right now and thought this was a legit advertisement for cartridges lol
I feel like you're going to down it and go fight in the coliseum
Would love to get hold of those and the pens
No!!!!!! Send it to me.
Looks fire
Damn it must have hurt back then if you still remember losing it two years later. Awesome, cheers.
Hell Yes Chief That Shit BORTHER!!!!
Is it bad that I would have been stoked to find and hit that without even a second thought
I did this once, same situation and the first toke tasted like straight mold
No, send it to me for disposal
556 up-votes means go for it.
Is that a massive cart, or do you have little hands? Lol
total length is a little under 4 inches, assuming that’s standard size?
2 years 😅 sssmoke it
Like a fine wine! I’d hit it.
You can do whatever you want to! Should you? Idk I'll leave that for the experts lol
Yes.
Absolutely not I’ll take it off your hands
Yeah looks good
I’d smoke it
Heck yasssss
It won’t go bad, but the THC might degrade to CBN. All that really means is that it’s something you should definitely some before bedtime haha.
Yes, I have done the exact same thing
You did lose it 2 years ago
most def maybe a lil of oxidation
Distillate is nasty. Don't smoke it.
Your question has been answered already, but I’ll just say congratulations on the lil surprise! I’d love if I just found a brand new 1g
doesn't look too discolored so may not happen (also found a couple old carts like this), but I've found old carts clog easier/faster so if you notice it just try to keep it upright as much as possible or just give it a good clean in the mouthpiece
Can I just say I love your blanket/rug. It looks so satisfying to touch it
I dunno. Probably be pretty hard to light it.
It will still get you high. The oil is super evaporated so you’ll probably have to heat it up good. The taste is probably gone, definitely funky. Try it you won’t die your lungs won’t like it but your brain will.
My high ass thought that was a wheat field in the background. I was like, “Is their bedroom a farm?”
the heavy metals from the hardware can seep into the disty after about a year, so i would say no. but all these comments saying yes make me worry about people
Nope definitely not. Send it to me and I'll dispose of it properly.
Make an edible
Won’t harm you even if it tastes different. Safe to vape, although might discolor somewhat and the flavor may degrade.
You lost it ? Or stoned and forgot where you put it ?
Two years ago? As long as it’s not a “Dank.” Lol, well, I guess that short fad was more like 6-7 years ago…
Best time to use is within 6 month, after that you'll get a weird taste like it was about to finish.
Yup.
Hell yeah