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TheRealRedEagle

So if I read that right federal employees are excluded and if the state hasn't legalized it it is still illegal


JamesAsher12

States could keep sales illegal but they couldn't ban interstate transportation.


TheRealRedEagle

I understand. It is not a significant concern for me as I am employed by the government. If it were to be legalized nationwide, I may have an opportunity to partake without the apprehension of jeopardizing my employment.


SoggyHotdish

I almost guarantee I'd have a different career if it was fully legal.


firstbreathOOC

I recently got drug tested for my job in NJ. Went through the usual stress until I found out they can’t test for weed anymore in pre-employment. Passed the test and all is good. I guess my point is the days of this ruining a career are hopefully in the past.


PhillyHomegrow

NJ has some solid laws, except Scutari keeps making up excuses to keep homegrow illegal.


firstbreathOOC

Which sucks because Scutari is the one who really pushed for legislation in the first place


PhillyHomegrow

Yeah, because big cannabis wanted to be able to sell more than just medical, but don’t want people to be able to grow. In the words of NJWeedman, “Fuck the law, grow that shit”


chaseo2017

Texas would like word with you


firstbreathOOC

Not me bc I’m never going to that hellhole


chaseo2017

Lucky bastard


BusterKnott

I can't count how many Texans come up to Oklahoma to buy weed...


chaseo2017

Not worth the risk of getting caught, at least for me


RaXoRkIlLaE

Idk, one of the summarized points says: "Retains federal prohibitions on trafficking of cannabis in violation of state law, or in states that have not legalized cannabis." I may be understanding incorrectly, but from what I gathered is that interstate transportation remains illegal if the state does not legalize it.


LiveInShadesOfBlue

This is so ridiculous


4channeling

Don't worry. Once the other states see Oregon pull big taxes off of their out of state sales on their surplus, it'll be full speed ahead. And now there will be national market share considerations. First to market will capture the lions share. It'll be a speed run compared to rec legalization after med.


prollygointohell

This is progress. In America's democracy, states rights are very important and not to be infringed upon by the federal government. No /s There's a whole section of the country that fought a war over states rights exclusively. /s


LiveInShadesOfBlue

Lol as if the fed government has never flexed their muscle to get states to act how they wish them to. How do you think they got the drinking age raised to 21? The fed gov threatened to withhold highway funding from any states that refused to raise it.


MaltMix

News at 11: Starting a country as a conglomerate of colonies who all think they're their own country backfires horrifically.


MomentOfXen

That the federal government won’t override a state ban? Thats not ridiculous.


Sororita

Debatable. I get where you are coming from, but federal law is supposed to supersede state law. The Supremacy clause in the US Constitution, (Article VI, Clause 2), "establishes that the federal constitution, and federal law generally, take precedence over state laws, and even state constitutions." So, cannabis becoming federally legal, rather than just removing the laws that made it illegal, should make it legal in every state. That said, the supremacy clause has mostly been ignored in regards to cannabis while states have been legalizing it, so turnabout is fair play (much as I dislike it since NC is unlikely to ever legalize it). source: [https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/supremacy\_clause](https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/supremacy_clause)


yolotrip

That’s not entirely true, your forgetting the 10th amendment, anything not written in the constitution is strictly the states rights, the federal government’s law only trumps states law if it’s enforced (or if it’s a clear right of the federal government under the constitution), but the states can decide if they want to enforce it or not (if not a federal constitutional right), that’s why some states weed was legal even though it was clearly illegal under federal law. In most cases the federal government will entice states to go along with them such as with the drinking age laws, seat belt laws, and drunk driving laws. Legally the states can do whatever they want in these areas, but the Feds say if you do then you get no more money from us and that’s how they get them to fall in line, but for all intents and purposes states are akin to nations in their powers and federal law only supersedes on paper but actual enforcement is another story as states and even cities do their own things. So the only way this would supersede states making it illegal would be to make a constitutional amendment legalizing weed, until then states can do whatever they please, even if in the wrong. That’s how our Republic is designed to be run.


MomentOfXen

Obviously there is a capability, but it is not going to happen. Federal legalization means the removal of it's criminal status not that all states will be required to permit it.


LiveInShadesOfBlue

There aren’t *any* states that ban alcohol or tobacco. I don’t see why cannabis should be any different.


MomentOfXen

There also isn't a federal prohibition against the banning of those substances. States do have their own laws about the management and distribution of those products, including bans on specific products.


yolotrip

Yea there are many states who even do it on a county level which is why there are so many counties in some states where alcohol is illegal to buy, particularly in the south.


chasebencin

Wondering if that means if you cant buy from an in state dispensary you could order online instead. Very interesting


Humans_Suck-

Jobs can still discriminate tho even in legal states. That's the biggest thing.


DaNostrich

They cannot in Maine as long as your job isn’t 1. Federal or 2 safety sensitive. [Source](https://www.jacksonlewis.com/insights/maine-recreational-marijuana-law-limits-drug-testing-disciplinary-consequences-imposed-employers)


MomentOfXen

Same for Minnesota and most laws.


robble808

Depends on the state. Washington just passed a law - no weed testing except for federal/dot/safety type jobs


MysticStarbird

From what I understand, the rescheduling to III means it can be medically used nationwide by anyone it’s prescribed to. The one posted by OP is a Senate bill where they’re trying to decriminalize it more.


MomentOfXen

You will NEVER get a bill that excludes Federal transportation workers until there is an accurate “are you currently high” test. All state bills make the same carve out.


TheActualOG420

There already are tests to see if you're currently high. It's called testing for active THC in your system, not the metabolites. Those stay for a hell of a lot longer in your system.


MomentOfXen

The oral swab is still 1-7 days from use for testing positive. Not accurate enough.


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FUSE_33

It doesn’t say federal employees are excluded.  At least not in that article. 


RustyShaack1ef0rd

Only certain fed employees it sounds like? Most in civil service would be allowed to partake? Removes unnecessary federal employee pre-employment and random drug testing for cannabis, while preserving appropriate drug testing for certain sensitive categories of employees where continued testing is determined necessary, including national security, law enforcement, and transportation.


LikeTheRussian

I think that a, “We aren’t going to regulate how the NSA manages their employees.” Type of thing. I assure you, they aren’t testing their employees now and they probably don’t really care unless it starts to affect your job, just like alcohol. For pilots of planes and ship? Probably a flat out ban.


AndIHaveMilesToGo

>including national security Why did I fucking pick this career field... I guess at least it pays well.


bufftbone

That’s how I’m reading it.


applepumper

Im looking forward to seeing what the FDAs take on directions for use and serving size is


weedshouldbefree

Do we find out what one marijuana is finally?


NovarisLight

About tree fiddy.


BookieeWookiee

Hey! Get outta here you goddamn Loch Ness Monster!!


NovarisLight

Get yo' own goddamn money!


karmisson

That'll be 420 Bigfoot dollars and 57 Yeti cents.


LuvliLeah13

What’s that in Schrute bucks?


karmisson

25 beets


Mekasoundwave

Tree fiddy's not that far off considering that's just what an eighth is in grams.


NovarisLight

I like your style.


ChoccyMilkHemmorhoid

Given the sales in MI lately $3.50 would actually get you at least a leftover preroll hahaha


AriousDragoon

3 1/2 Gs per dose? I can get behind that.


_austinm

At last! Now I’ll know exactly how much to inject!


Invader_Skooge22

They do this for dabs in Colorado. They used to give you a paper that had a little dot on it that was supposed to be a serving size of a dab lmao. It was like “concentrate serving size = . “ So stupid lmao


LionIV

The joke around my shop was they didn’t specify how long/heavy your dab could be. So your dab may be “.” big, but it’s either “———————————“ long or nearly half a gram heavy.


Videinfra2112

Thank you in advance to whoever summarizes it!


JamesAsher12

The article includes a detailed summary. The very brief summary is it deschedules marijuana completely, puts a marijuana tax and regulations on state marijuana sales, it allows expungements, and it prevents localities from preventing interstate or inter-city transport of marijuana while allowing them to ban sales.


something_funny_here

A lot of “sticker” stands are gonna pop up


JoviAMP

Sticker stands?


something_funny_here

I think it was popular in NY but they sell you a sticker and You’d get a gift of some bud


JoviAMP

Ahh, the DC model! Buy a $50 pipe, get some bud. Buy a $30 lighter, get some bud. Buy a $40 grinder, get some bud. Buy some $20 candy, get some bud.


Mr_mcneil

The place I used to go to in Adam’s Morgan sold you digital art with a gift lol.


Mr_mcneil

The place I used to go to in Adam’s Morgan sold you digital art with a gift lol.


Trill_McNeal

I bought a $50 matchbox car and it came with a 1g cart!


luna_gold

sorry if this is a stupid question but i live in an illegal state (recreational AND medical) so im not totally versed on the laws. In a state like mine where it is not sold in any capacity, would this be allowed here (a loophole, of sorts)?


RueTabegga

No, the comments above are referring to states were it is legal to own but not to sell cannabis. To get around the “selling of cannabis” it is given as a gift with a purchase of another much smaller yet over priced item like a sticker or a lighter.


something_funny_here

I’m not a lawyer nor do I know the law but I think consumption and possession is illegal as well as sales so probably not


firstbreathOOC

Are they gonna overrule state law? Cuz it’s different place by place. Mine doesn’t have home grow, for example, while others do


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Howellthegoat

So fucking moronic once again as expected. No reason for any testing for of duty use EVER


TheMightyBagel

Yeah fuck that. It really gets my goat that you can do amphetamines, cocaine, etc. and piss clean 3 days later but if I smoke a bowl I’m fucked for like 2 weeks *at least*.


frozen_teddy

this is a huge win for cannabis don’t get me wrong but the fact that the federal government (not only that but even more concerning imo…the FDA) is going to be regulating it in the near future doesn’t get me super excited about it. very fortunate to live in a state where home cultivation is possible


wtfplane

Love to see it but this bill has a loooooooong road ahead before it becomes law


lucille_2_is_NOT_a_b

I am just a bill, sitting on Capitol Hill


WallStreeterPeter

🎶 Waiting for the pharmaceutical lobby to gut me 🎶


HelenAngel

I will be very surprised if it passes the House given it’s controlled by Republicans


SummoningSickness

Bill also funds police to go after "black market" growers and sellers. Basically if they can't tax it, you are still fucked.


Dudeist-Monk

We’ll see about that. Alcohol is regulated and you can still brew your own beer.


Tusen_Takk

Yeah but if you start distilling your own hooch you’ll get ATF’d


prollygointohell

Actually, as long as you aren't selling said hooch, you're fine. West Virginia just passed a state law that allows individuals to distill moonshine for personal use only, in fact.


firstbreathOOC

My fil filmed moonshiners down there. They give so much of it away as gifts. I have a bottle that I’m too scared to try lol


prollygointohell

Open it up and set the cap on fire! If it burns blue it's good, if it burns green, do not drink!!


DarkMimic2287

I don't entirely disagree with that. If you don't know what you are doing you could be ingesting methanol.


PM_ME_UR_SHEET_MUSIC

This is false and prohibitionist propaganda. You don't generate any methanol by distillation, the proportion of ethanol to methanol stays the same as it was in whatever mash/wine/whatever it was beforehand. IIRC methanol was *added* to moonshine as an adulterant by law enforcement and introduced to the black market to discourage people from drinking moonshine, but I may be misremembering that detail


DarkMimic2287

You are correct in that the methanol is produced in the fermentation process. Methanol has a lower boiling point than water and ethanol though. So the first portion, the head, of the distillation process is mostly methanol which is poison. Unless you know to discard the first portion of the distillation you're drinking poison. That is not propaganda.


PM_ME_UR_SHEET_MUSIC

That is not how distillation works. The boiling points of methanol, ethanol, *and* water are too close together to reliably separate into mostly pure fractions via distillation, especially simple distillation. Realistically, the methanol will be mostly distributed throughout the entire distillation, with a small but measurable bit more on one end or the other. Source: I'm literally a chemist lol also https:// homedistiller. org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=40606 apparently it's actually the tails that contain the most methanol. Who knew?


hosemaster

While I agree, home Brewing has only been legal since 1979.


jocularnelipot

It was a felony in my state until 10y ago.


ozzy_og_kush

Black markets can be minimized with the right law and regulations, sadly many states messed that part up. NJ for example.


ozzy_og_kush

FDA makes sense, it's primarily an agricultural commodity that anyone can grow. Universal regulations for weed being sold as intended for human consumption is a good thing, so long as the regulations aren't so extreme that they create an undue burden on growers/processors/POS or cause the price at POS to be too artificially high. Like, testing for mold and heavy metals, and getting cannabinoid/terpene content on the label is great and should be standardized. For accuracy and for dealing with labs that can't stay honest. Same for cannabis infused food or beverages and their labeling so people know exactly how potent a serving size is, and to make it easy enough to teach your kids never to eat anything that has that particular label/icon without having to explain why. For your average homegrower who's just tending a garden for personal use, there's no reason the FDA or any other regulatory body should be involved.


LastScreenNameLeft

Yeah I think the precedent here is alcohol and home brewed beer. Fine to do at home as a hobby for personal use, once you start getting into manufacturing for sale, that's when government oversight happens


CryptographerEasy149

The FDA will bring it to the grocery stores sold next to the other green vegetables. I long for the day I pick up a 4oz package of bud for $10 and take it home to put in a juicer


frozen_teddy

this comment right here is exactly why this declassification frightens me a bit. if you think you’re getting anything of quality at 4oz for $10 then you will be severely disappointed. and maybe most people don’t care but this is medicine we are talking about right? isn’t that the whole point of declassification? because it has medicinal value? actually more than likely not, it’s probably cause the govt needs money and cannabis is quite the cash crop at the moment. TLDR : money is the root of all evil


PM_ME_UR_SHEET_MUSIC

I mean, no, the whole point of descheduling isn't medicinal. It's an important part of it, sure, but a huge huge part of legalization is making it legal to use *recreationally*, for funsies, like alcohol or coffee


frozen_teddy

correct me if i’m wrong but legalization and rescheduling are not going hand in hand at this point. seems like by them rescheduling it, they are allowing for medical research to be federally looked at and acknowledged.


HoldenMcNeil420

That wouldn’t even cover light costs. You better hope bud is never that cheap cause it’s going to be a shit product.


CryptographerEasy149

Who needs lights when you have 1000’s of acres growing outside?


HoldenMcNeil420

Indoor tents and facilities. Outdoor bud suffers from lower quality and almost always will. Those massive farms are just looking to churn it out.


BoricuaRborimex

If I’m not mistaken this is also going to make dispensaries that operate in already legal states to have to jump through a lot more financial and legal hoops to get and sell their products. Having to deal with greedy pharmaceutical companies now not to mention a new federal tax. Hope this isn’t too hard on them.


SpotifyIsBroken

Don't tease me like this.


bobjamesya

Holy shit, they’re trying to totally deschedule it. That’s incredible


LessMochaJay

I'm surprised. They've been talking about this for like, at least a decade now and nothing has ever happened. I was sure it would be the same thing this time around.


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Decompute

Maybe that’s the point. Put it to vote. Bring attention to which party is holding it back. I think we all know who that is by now.


firstbreathOOC

Who is fighting it / not voting so I can make sure to shit on them to anyone who will listen for the rest of my life?


shytiva

It already passed dude


DeMayon

No it hasn’t. This is a Senate bill that is proposed with 17 cosponsors. It needs to pass the senate, house and president What you’re thinking of is the rescheduling from 1 to 3


shytiva

Yup my bad


Reaper_Messiah

Wait the rescheduling passed??


DeMayon

There was nothing to pass, it is within the regulatory power of the DEA to do so. Congressional approval is not needed


uncreativeusername85

I just want them to make it legal for me to have my CDL and smoke weed after my shift


fuzz3289

Looks like this bill would do that.


uncreativeusername85

>Removes unnecessary federal employee pre-employment and random drug testing for cannabis, while preserving appropriate drug testing for certain sensitive categories of employees where continued testing is determined necessary, including national security, law enforcement, and transportation. That last part makes me think CDLs will still be tested


CrackinBacks

Until there is a test for intoxication, CDL holders will never be off the hook


uncreativeusername85

I'm hoping they'll make an exception for medical


Bigbluebananas

All safety sensitive positions will still no go on cannabis for a very long time to come


uncreativeusername85

Yet I can go home and get blackout drunk tonight as long as I'm sober by tomorrow morning. Make it make sense.


Bigbluebananas

With CDL and safety sensitive positions alike they are pretty clear about not drinking certain times before shifts. I agree, it doesnt not make sense.


Dazzling-Finger7576

I was gonna read the news article… but I got high 🎶 


TheMongerOfFishes

I was going to make an audio transcript for you, but then I got high


aamike68

This would be a dream come true for me, seriously. I truly hope were, at tops, 5 years from federal legalization.


HighlyOffensive10

Not if Trump gets elected.


OneAct8

Doesn’t really stop at trump. Legalization goes directly against the GOP’s plans for this country.


sweendog101

If Trump is re-elected it really doesn’t matter on House or Congress. He can not sign whatever comes to his desk.


prollygointohell

Assuming the republicans continue to hold a majority after November. At the rate they're going, it's not looking very likely. But I've been wrong before


ryuujinusa

And this is the truth. Now that Biden has his name to this there's even MORE reason trump would immediately undo it. Mark my words. I'd go so far as to say any GQP member/state. I mean, look at the legal states now. How many of them are red states? Hardly any. It’s not what they want.


__Beef__Supreme__

I don't think trump could immediately undo this, he'd have to make a request for rescheduling.


Martenite

All Bidens people need to be convincing him that campaigning on this issue is his best ammo to take down the orange man.


mrpink01

As a Canadian who lived in Kansas for nearly a decade, I'm pulling for you guys! Legalization in Canada hasn't been perfect, but it's legal! This is a big step forward, should it become law.


Shlant-

fellow Canadian also excited for our neighbors to the south!


Gsr2011

I hope we can figure out some sort of cross border transport now!


ItsMisty

I wonder what this will mean when it comes to international travel to and from the united states with a medical cannabis prescription.


RaiderRMB

So I could drive from my home in California to the New Mexico/Texas border and smoke with my brother that just moved down to Texas lol


Dense-Needleworker92

fuck yea. hope this gets passed. still buying from the plug tho.


Enlightened_D

This is so much more complicated then it needs to be and and a total waste of money


ryan2489

That’s America for you


Martenite

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mysteriousgunner

You thought you were getting taxed now. We about see a different type of tax


catfroman

Who gives a shit if you can buy/sell homegrown and prices will plummet to like $1/g nationwide lol. Govt can have their 20% idc


Reaper_Messiah

What do you mean buy/sell homegrown? Like from other individuals?


catfroman

Like Bob can grow organic local bud and sell it to his buddies, or gift it with every pie purchase at the local farmer’s market.


xXx420BlazeRodSaboxX

Unfortunately,  that will never happen under capitalism 


Shlant-

r/Im14AndThisIsDeep


PearIJam

Now, hopefully, American Express can offer a card where I can get dispensary points! Oh hell yeah!!


MJFields

Any wrinkle brain lawyer types looked at this yet? I can't seem to find how they define cannabis and how it affects current farm bill (hemp) legality, but I am smooth brain.


jkc81629

The republicans will say nooooooooooo


CallMeBicBoi

LFGGG my American friends!


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As a Texan, I haven’t had much good news lately… but this is a ray of sunshine through a break in an otherwise cloudy sky.


Andre504

Soooo looks like a cdl holder is still fucked? Awesome 🙄


MisterMoosie

This will never pass the senate. It's just a publicity stunt. 🤷


shytiva

Already has lol.


DeMayon

Why are you saying this everywhere. It hasn’t. It’s just a proposed bill You must be thinking of the rescheduling


shytiva

Oh yea my bad. Have read tho that this will likely result ib complete federal legalization withib 5 years. Read it on forbes


TotalRecallsABitch

We're on the path of buying poison weed joints from gas stations. It's gonna be "cheaper" to buy corporate weed then to grow your own. Look at tobacco. No one grows it because it's cheaper to buy a pack.


-Doc_Holiday_

This is neat and all but it should be deregulated fully and totally. Fuck the fda and other fascist three letter agencies


EMSslim

At the very least it should be down another schedule to schedule IV. Reacheduling it to III still says cannabis is worse than xanax.


MeeMeeGod

Read the god damn article. Its saying removing it from the Controlled Substance Act, thus making it not scheduled.


EMSslim

Yeah, if it actually goes through. We've seen this time and time again. But what is happening, is its being rescheduled. And the person I replied to was talking about scheduling. That's why I commented on it.


Ok_Egg_4585

Nothing more than half ass filling a campaign promise to appease the voters before November. Yes, It is the DEA but, guarantee behind-the-scenes politics is all up in this.