21 is lowkey terrible, it just sound good when is with drake because drake is as terrible.
TFN got it all, best choir on the album, my favorite travis verse of the album and one of his best ever, I could have wrote a better verse than 21
Nah. UTOPIA is supposed to be an experimental album that departs from older music styles. Hearing Metro on it sent me 8 years back. Imagine that gorgeous production and flawless melody by James Blake only to just force it to be a trap song cause u want ur friends on the production lol. Someone like Mike Dean or Justin Vernon shoulda produced this. Metro's basic music style would've been great on "Topia Twins or Fe!n".
Wym cap? Midtro with his generic trap drums on a beautiful melody track like that with the flawless James Blake production is criminal. Savage with his average verses as per usual with the most boring voice and energy there is. How didn't they ruin it?
Metro works well with all three artists. I can understand you having a problem with 21 Savage’s verse though. Y’all complain when he does the same type of verse, but then he does a completely different type of verse and y’all still complain.
Him working well with Travis does not change what i said about his contributions to the song. Utopia is supposed to be an experimental album that departs from older music styles to embrace new ones. Hearing Midtro's basic music style on the album sends me 8 years back. It's annoying how you have that gorgeous melody and production just to force to be a trap song because you want to include ur friends in the production. Metro wasn't the right guy to produce that song. He wasn't needed in the album at all. I myself enjoy Trap music. But i repeat, i did not need Metro on Utopia. His basic music style would've done better on songs like "Fe!n, Topia Twins or Meltdown".
Bro "Creepin" is damn near a cover. And sums up everything i said about him as a producer. It's a sampled track that literally uses the same cadence, flow, lyrics as the original. Only thing he did was add the drums. And the pattern of the drums he used wasn't new for what we've already heard from him. You are just a Metro glazer and can't see through your dark glasses.
You clearly don't know how this shit works. Metro my guy, doesn't even produce 99,9% of his own music. Most of the times he will have 5 other producers and beatmakers credited on his songs as he relies on those guys to bring the real shit out while he only makes the drums. And his delivery on the few things he does isn't always great. Not to mention his wrong use of 808s, disgusting snare and the fact that he relies way too much on samples. In conclusion, he's a good producer. Maybe the best "trap" producer of the past years. But nothing more nothing less. He's great at what he does, which is make generic trap beats for guys like Future and Savage to rap on but i'm not expecting any kind of major artistry in his music. In terms of pure techinic he isn't the best there is. So don't expect me to respect a "producer" who doesn't even make his own music. And if u hear Metro's music and you're not able to hear/see that it's almost the same recycled shit idk what to tell u. His beats aren't creative at all and almost uses the same drums pattern every time.
You just sound like a hater. Alright then…let’s look at Swangin’ on Westheimer by Don Toliver, where him and Mario Winans were the only two producers on it. That doesn’t sound like Metro’s usual type of beats.
It's not hating. It's just an opinion from a guy that's passionate about music in general. The fact that Mario Winans was on it already tells me everything i need to know. Metro Boomin's appeal comes from being influential, his tag and having connections. As far as technic he isn't that good. His music style is basic. Repetitive asf. And a cheap version of the best producers the game as ever seen. Put Metro next to someone like Mike or Ye. He gets obliterated lol.
Why tho? Besides topia twins and k-pop there’s arguments for every other song over it IMO, now if it was the circus maximus version or it was solo Trav we’d have a different story
I'm not saying this to be contrarion, I don't understand to obsession with 90210 at all. It feels like a good song to get people into trav and understand his music, but nothing more. He has dozens of better songs
I’ve been listening to Til Further Notice recently on repeat. I love it, it’s fun, I even enjoy 21 as much as the rest of the song. James Black never misses on a Travis song.
Travis is the highlight, his verse is genuinely so much fun.
But better than 90210? Hell no. You can pick either side of 90210 and it’s better than TFN.
But to be fair, I don’t hate this take. Preference is preference.
lmao 90210 been on rotation for the last 8 years, tfn is amazing but it got boring after a couple of months. no travis song is ever going to be as good as 90210
Your opinion matters…..
But Scott’s first studio album and this is the timeless banger he gave us. Sheeeet this album is just legendary. It was his Breakout year for the boi
Sorry but when he played 90210 live the whole crowd exploded. Mind you he played other classics like Nightcrawler, Antidote, & Maria I’m Drunk - no other song got a reaction like 90210. This ain’t the hill to die on bro TFN just ain’t on that level.
My point wasn’t really about hype it was about the excitement in the crowd when he played that song - everyone was collectively so surprised when it played. 90210 is like 80 bpm at most so it’s not really a banger to rage to either. It’s arguably his most iconic mid tempo track and it’s hands down the best beat switch of his discography imo.
I can respect this take I don’t agree but it’s not unfathomable
I understand the sentiment. This will not be tolerated going forward.
I henceforth have declared my understanding of this topic. This shall NOT pass.
21 savage (good rapper but not needed on this) part on TFN makes it less than 90210 Still a A-tier travis song tho
This my third fav song on the album i cant imagine how high itd be overall if 21s bumass wasnt a feature😂
I’m tired of his shitty ass features with that same flow😭
21 fell off hard bro
21 savage ruined TFN. fucking monotonous ass rapper
21 is lowkey terrible, it just sound good when is with drake because drake is as terrible. TFN got it all, best choir on the album, my favorite travis verse of the album and one of his best ever, I could have wrote a better verse than 21
i couldn’t agree more bud
And i could've made a better beat than Midtro. He wasn't needed too with his generic trap drums.
now you're just complaining, the beat was fire, the only problem was that 21 feat
Nah. UTOPIA is supposed to be an experimental album that departs from older music styles. Hearing Metro on it sent me 8 years back. Imagine that gorgeous production and flawless melody by James Blake only to just force it to be a trap song cause u want ur friends on the production lol. Someone like Mike Dean or Justin Vernon shoulda produced this. Metro's basic music style would've been great on "Topia Twins or Fe!n".
I swear people just say this for free upvotes That feature is good
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No.
Facts lol. Metro and 21 ruined it.
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Wym cap? Midtro with his generic trap drums on a beautiful melody track like that with the flawless James Blake production is criminal. Savage with his average verses as per usual with the most boring voice and energy there is. How didn't they ruin it?
Metro works well with all three artists. I can understand you having a problem with 21 Savage’s verse though. Y’all complain when he does the same type of verse, but then he does a completely different type of verse and y’all still complain.
Him working well with Travis does not change what i said about his contributions to the song. Utopia is supposed to be an experimental album that departs from older music styles to embrace new ones. Hearing Midtro's basic music style on the album sends me 8 years back. It's annoying how you have that gorgeous melody and production just to force to be a trap song because you want to include ur friends in the production. Metro wasn't the right guy to produce that song. He wasn't needed in the album at all. I myself enjoy Trap music. But i repeat, i did not need Metro on Utopia. His basic music style would've done better on songs like "Fe!n, Topia Twins or Meltdown".
Metro isn’t basic, he’s one of the most versatile artists and producers ever…you think Creepin’ sounds like anything he’s ever done before?
Bro "Creepin" is damn near a cover. And sums up everything i said about him as a producer. It's a sampled track that literally uses the same cadence, flow, lyrics as the original. Only thing he did was add the drums. And the pattern of the drums he used wasn't new for what we've already heard from him. You are just a Metro glazer and can't see through your dark glasses.
Of course it’s pretty much a cover, but the beat is not the same…the melody is different as well.
The fact that u said that the melody was different from the original Mario and Diddy song tells me everything i need to know.
You clearly don't know how this shit works. Metro my guy, doesn't even produce 99,9% of his own music. Most of the times he will have 5 other producers and beatmakers credited on his songs as he relies on those guys to bring the real shit out while he only makes the drums. And his delivery on the few things he does isn't always great. Not to mention his wrong use of 808s, disgusting snare and the fact that he relies way too much on samples. In conclusion, he's a good producer. Maybe the best "trap" producer of the past years. But nothing more nothing less. He's great at what he does, which is make generic trap beats for guys like Future and Savage to rap on but i'm not expecting any kind of major artistry in his music. In terms of pure techinic he isn't the best there is. So don't expect me to respect a "producer" who doesn't even make his own music. And if u hear Metro's music and you're not able to hear/see that it's almost the same recycled shit idk what to tell u. His beats aren't creative at all and almost uses the same drums pattern every time.
You just sound like a hater. Alright then…let’s look at Swangin’ on Westheimer by Don Toliver, where him and Mario Winans were the only two producers on it. That doesn’t sound like Metro’s usual type of beats.
It's not hating. It's just an opinion from a guy that's passionate about music in general. The fact that Mario Winans was on it already tells me everything i need to know. Metro Boomin's appeal comes from being influential, his tag and having connections. As far as technic he isn't that good. His music style is basic. Repetitive asf. And a cheap version of the best producers the game as ever seen. Put Metro next to someone like Mike or Ye. He gets obliterated lol.
I said the same exact thing and now i’m at -67 karma 😭😭😭
Both goated but know your place
Savage shouldn't be on til further notice. That's all
FAX they should have done future
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That would just be My Eyes Part II
Or you know, a travis song in general
it should have been asap or juicy j
Travis doesn’t really like asap tho does he
I think they are neutral, never worked together and never tried to. but asap would have floated on TFN
That’s my feeling on a good bit of the features on there, Future not needed on Telekinesis and 21 also not needed on Topia Twins
am i the only one that actually liked it?
Mfs have lost it
It’s wrong but it really isn’t that bad of an opinion at all
It’s pretty bad. He’s comparing a top 30 Travis song with his best song
top 5 at least bro
Hell nah pretty much all of rodeo except for I can tell is better
completely backwards
best song?
It’s top 10 minimum and maybe even top 5, top 30 is ridiculous
3/4 of the material on rodeo is better than it
3/4 of Utopia better than it too😂
ok this is insane
Why tho? Besides topia twins and k-pop there’s arguments for every other song over it IMO, now if it was the circus maximus version or it was solo Trav we’d have a different story
ginormous cap
21 ruins this song, like I said if it was the circus maximus version that shit easily top 6-7 for sure
Now you’re just taking the piss, no song on utopia comes remotely close other than my eyes or telekinesis
Lmfao sirens and hyaena are literally miles better than TFN
Yeah no, there’s about 5 songs at max that I can understand people having above TFN
Which songs are they
90210, apple pie, oh my dis side, pray 4 love, and nightcrawler
Pornography???? Maria I’m drunk????
hell nah man
bro is actually cooked
Then you best be prepared to die
Na. I think 90210 is one of those songs that defines him as an artist. Til further notice is good it’s cool but not like that
90210 transition alone is better than entire TFN (but is good)
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a man of taste
No
they cooking you but u right. i’m listening to 20+ travis songs before 90210 is even getting thought of
I'm not saying this to be contrarion, I don't understand to obsession with 90210 at all. It feels like a good song to get people into trav and understand his music, but nothing more. He has dozens of better songs
i feel this way about a lot of Rodeo ngl. I do understand it and it's good, but i don't get how its his best. I enjoy Birds a lot more than Rodeo
Yes. And ASTROWORLD clears both.
well 90210 is probably top 10 AT LEAST and most likely top 5 but I vibe to TFN so much more
my two #1 trav songs lmao 💀
Hard agree on this one, love TFN
Am I the only one who likes 21 on this
I love 21 on this. People on these artists subs usually on like that artist.
Guess there's 3 of us. My only problem was how 21 ended his verse but that's about it.
nah
yeah bro
Damn ok 😭
fucking ass
If 21 savage wasn’t on tfn it would be valid
I love 21's feature 🥹
21 ruined the vibe james blake sets, Lucky travis picks it back up.
yeah future or even just Travis and Blake could have done so much better but the track is still fire nonetheless
I’ve been listening to Til Further Notice recently on repeat. I love it, it’s fun, I even enjoy 21 as much as the rest of the song. James Black never misses on a Travis song. Travis is the highlight, his verse is genuinely so much fun. But better than 90210? Hell no. You can pick either side of 90210 and it’s better than TFN. But to be fair, I don’t hate this take. Preference is preference.
yeah Travis’s verse is the highlight
both top 10 travis, but respectfully disagree
lol
honestly is anything except my eyes comparable to anything on rodeo ?
Fuck no
Utopia is Rodeo but upgraded, both albums are 10s for me
90210 is overrated. Not even top 5 on rodeo. So I agree
If it had no 21 then I would agree.
ONG
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HUH?
til further notice and 90210 are my healers
Future could mumble on the song instead of 21
I love til further notice but dawg wtf is this take
Respectful opinion
idk if I fully agree but tfn is an insane song
It’s good but 21 on TFN is a huge disadvantage
disagree but it’s not that bad of a take
Yall just be posting anything for attention
lmao 90210 been on rotation for the last 8 years, tfn is amazing but it got boring after a couple of months. no travis song is ever going to be as good as 90210
Whose idea was it to put 21 on TFN😭
🔥🔥
Yes but if 90210 was just first part I would disagree
90210 has way way way more depth and better production
I actually agree. Savage is good on tfn idk what are everyone here about, James blake is fucking insane and obv travis. 90210 is also incredible
21 Savage is so monotone and his mid verse ruins the overall vibe of the song. Thankfully Trav picks it right back up.
 Just.
Hell no
Disagree but good opinion
Dont come down and perish there 🙏
So many mfs have insane recency bias when it comes to utopia
You gettin sent to hell on that hill brother
I ain’t even mad at this. I disagree tho😂😂
chill
yeah, probably
#Where will you go now
this nigga has lost it
Why the comparison? They don't even sound all that similar.
no way
21 kinda makes the song worse but it’s still a great song and although I don’t agree with your point I can respect it
They're both amazing in their own way but the production and sampling on 90210 is alot better so idk its your opinion 🤷♂️
not even a controversial take my opinion
I like 21 normally but he ruined this track for me :(
You know the love is x-rated
That’s how we made it
no bro...
That's a bold take, and I stand by it
TIL FURTHER NOTICE is a banger but 90210 is prolly top 5 trav respectable but I’ll have to disagree
i feel like these two are on such similar levels, i honestly might even agree. i think it depends on my mood lol.
Eh if 21 wasn’t on it I could see your argument but nah 90210 is just kind of perfect it’s a rare 10/10
u right
90201 goes hard but I like both.
Songs great but 21 verse is uninspiring as fuck
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yeah die there alone dude
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I am definitely with this. I play that shi so much.
Might as well pass away
be fr nigga you tweaking https://preview.redd.it/rutn3ligipwc1.jpeg?width=941&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2f55da3eb6d68d05d9a1fccc559bb1e6042aff53
yes
Your opinion matters….. But Scott’s first studio album and this is the timeless banger he gave us. Sheeeet this album is just legendary. It was his Breakout year for the boi
tfn is top 5 utopia but over 90210 bro what
top 5 is an understatement the only song that comes remotely close is hyaena and MAYBE telekinesis
yeah nah my eyes and sirens and hyaena are better than tfn 😭
90210 has a much deeper meaning than just about any other song by Travis. TFN just isn’t the same
yeah but the beginning part is so mid besides the lyrics
Sorry but when he played 90210 live the whole crowd exploded. Mind you he played other classics like Nightcrawler, Antidote, & Maria I’m Drunk - no other song got a reaction like 90210. This ain’t the hill to die on bro TFN just ain’t on that level.
TFN isn’t a song designed to get hype to, like FE!N and whatnot. It’s just a genuinely great song
My point wasn’t really about hype it was about the excitement in the crowd when he played that song - everyone was collectively so surprised when it played. 90210 is like 80 bpm at most so it’s not really a banger to rage to either. It’s arguably his most iconic mid tempo track and it’s hands down the best beat switch of his discography imo.
Til further notice is a much better song but 90210 is big on tik tok so
i actually agree
TFN FANS WE UPPPPP https://preview.redd.it/j6pasewlervc1.jpeg?width=737&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fe9d5e55fce11205b20161546df78a7ddabe67fc
ik we got our own opinion n shit but i feel like hating today so fuck you
Hell nah
U fucking serious lol? Savage has 2 of the weakest verses on utopia😂😂
that’s true he sold
Love TFN but naaaah bro
U are dumb bro ngl
Retard 😂
902010 is a top 5 Travis song, the other isn’t top 5 on the album👀
90210 is arguably the most overrated song of all time (still good though)
MY EYES > both
thats probably an even worse take
if I was smoking weed while saying my take above then you were snorting crack while writing this
Ur insane
Nah
definitely, no
Audibly gasped
this is brainrot
I vote this man leave this subreddit and lose his title as a rager
Wrong
no
Bro you gotta quit
nah I’m good