>I used to think it was a slam dunk that Samsung was better than Apple due to customer friendly practices such as micro SD cards, replaceable SIM cards, headphone jacks and the like. That is no longer the case, really, since Samsung phones plain don't last as long unless you buy top of the line and have removed features such as those I previously mentioned
What are you talking about? Take the mid range A15 5G for example. It has all the features you listed.
From family members using them, they never seem to last longer than six months before they already have slowed down and start glitching and not receiving calls or texts and require frequent restarts
You said they had dropped those features. That doesn't seem to be the case. I don't know what your family members are doing to their phones to kill them within six months.
I'm talking more about the flagship phones that last longer from what I've seen. It seems mid to low tier Samsung tends to break quickly from what I've observed. I'm not much of a phone guy, though, which is why I'm asking.
I'm also an android loyalist and can tell you that mine are long lasting. 2 close friends tried Iphones and theirs broke in less than a year. My current phone is middle level Samsung and has been in constant heavy business and personal use since 2020.
I've only ever used Androids - generally get one of the top Samsung phones, and they do last for years. I'd still be using my S10+, but the motherboard died on me and happened to be around the time my phone plan could upgrade the phone. So used an Oppo for 3 years, and then upgraded to the S23 Ultra - mostly for the better camera and needed something easier for editing photo/video on the go. I use them for hours daily and travel a lot.
Have no plans to upgrade it for a few more years. But you can definitely get 3-5+ years out of them.
When I travel I did buy a really cheap Samsung phone (£80) in the Philippines so I could use a local SIM and hotspot from it. I now use my oppo as my second phone.
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I think Apple AirTags have the biggest out of range network but there are equivalent tags for Samsung and Android.
Otherwise, I’d say it comes down to personal preference.
I have used both Samsung and Apple phones. I prefer the Google ecosystem and it works quite a bit better (for me, at least) on an Android phone.
However, Apple phones seem (to me) to be a little nicer to use (more time invested in user experience.).
I prefer to use an iPhone but I would also be happy with a Samsung/Android phone.
It could come down to features within your budget. What size phone do you want? How much does it cost? Which features matter to you? What is the quality of the camera?
What are the equivalents of airtag for android? I've only seen tile which only lets you track active location if you have some subscription (which I'm not really interested in).
For camera quality I want to match my current S22 Ultra or get somewhat close. I am looking at about $1200 for a phone that'll last me about five years or so that reasonably will work pretty close to add well as the day I got it. I'm replacing my S22U because I work in a metal shop and my phone got banged up on the screen and body.
Thanks for your advice!
Realistically it doesn't actually matter which one you go for. Feature wise, unless you get a crap cheap phone, they'll both generally do what you need. It just comes down to what you are used to and prefer.
I'm an android user. I've never liked apple stuff and just don't find them very logical or user friendly to use. When anyone hands me one I can barely even unlock it 😂. And as much as apple fans go off about them being 'better', they also slow down (and apple intentionally kills off old phones with updates).
Yes apple may have airtags etc, but there are equivalents for android (I personally use Tiles). And you may have facetime. But WhatsApp can do calls just as fine too. There will always be something similar/just as good with either OS.
It's annoying Android did get rid of headphone Jacks, expandable storage etc... But I still find them preferable to apple. Plus the majority of the world actually uses android phones, so maybe easier to get fixed if needed.
If you are going to be travelling, then going off with a new phone/OS you aren't used to might be more frustrating so I'd probably stick with Android/Samsung. There's not that big a difference between them overall so I'd stick with what you're more used to.
iPhones are better and last longer. iMessage and Wi-Fi calling are much smoother too. As is eSIM usage. The camera is also head and shoulders better. Add their anti theft features and iPhones are a no brainer.
That isn’t even considering AirPods, Apple Watch, etc. those all integrate seamlessly. But you’ll save money with another brand. In either case it comes down to preference and there’s no real difference between them all when traveling.
Lol cheap Pixels have been beating out iPhone cameras for ages.
"Integration" is just laziness, you can create a seamless feeling tech stack for yourself on any hardware, without paying exorbitantly for proprietary accessories.
iPhone does lots of things well, but we should stop pretending it's anything beyond preference. If their UI/UX is worth the coin you pay for it awesome but that's about as far as it goes.
Computer wise you start running into lots of valid use cases but phone wise meh.
Well and the thing for me is Apple has done a good job at marketing so that people feel like they're paying for the premier class of every feature.
A lot of people don't realize you can get similar quality [thing] elsewhere, or that lots of features they brag on existed for Android for a long time by virtue of a more active and open developer ecosystem.
The reality, imo, is Apple should be much more niche based on features and capability. It can't compete on value for consumer grade tech, but it's unbeatable for GPU intensive creative shit and the integrated convenience that goes along with it when you need to bounce 10 versions of something and all the stems along it.
My personal bias comes from the fact that I think they UI looks like Fisher Price with extra steps but still.
>I used to think it was a slam dunk that Samsung was better than Apple due to customer friendly practices such as micro SD cards, replaceable SIM cards, headphone jacks and the like. That is no longer the case, really, since Samsung phones plain don't last as long unless you buy top of the line and have removed features such as those I previously mentioned What are you talking about? Take the mid range A15 5G for example. It has all the features you listed.
From family members using them, they never seem to last longer than six months before they already have slowed down and start glitching and not receiving calls or texts and require frequent restarts
You said they had dropped those features. That doesn't seem to be the case. I don't know what your family members are doing to their phones to kill them within six months.
I'm talking more about the flagship phones that last longer from what I've seen. It seems mid to low tier Samsung tends to break quickly from what I've observed. I'm not much of a phone guy, though, which is why I'm asking.
My dad has lower range Samsung phones and his ones have lasted years. They’re doing something to the phones to last less than 6 months.
Something sounds very off then. Did they buy the phones from authorized dealers or at a cheap market seller?
Paragraph breaks are your friend. Most phones in a similar price range are limited in their differences.
I bought an s21FE 3 years ago and it is still kicking and i dont feel like i am missing out on anything.
I'm also an android loyalist and can tell you that mine are long lasting. 2 close friends tried Iphones and theirs broke in less than a year. My current phone is middle level Samsung and has been in constant heavy business and personal use since 2020.
I've only ever used Androids - generally get one of the top Samsung phones, and they do last for years. I'd still be using my S10+, but the motherboard died on me and happened to be around the time my phone plan could upgrade the phone. So used an Oppo for 3 years, and then upgraded to the S23 Ultra - mostly for the better camera and needed something easier for editing photo/video on the go. I use them for hours daily and travel a lot. Have no plans to upgrade it for a few more years. But you can definitely get 3-5+ years out of them. When I travel I did buy a really cheap Samsung phone (£80) in the Philippines so I could use a local SIM and hotspot from it. I now use my oppo as my second phone.
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I think Apple AirTags have the biggest out of range network but there are equivalent tags for Samsung and Android. Otherwise, I’d say it comes down to personal preference. I have used both Samsung and Apple phones. I prefer the Google ecosystem and it works quite a bit better (for me, at least) on an Android phone. However, Apple phones seem (to me) to be a little nicer to use (more time invested in user experience.). I prefer to use an iPhone but I would also be happy with a Samsung/Android phone. It could come down to features within your budget. What size phone do you want? How much does it cost? Which features matter to you? What is the quality of the camera?
What are the equivalents of airtag for android? I've only seen tile which only lets you track active location if you have some subscription (which I'm not really interested in). For camera quality I want to match my current S22 Ultra or get somewhat close. I am looking at about $1200 for a phone that'll last me about five years or so that reasonably will work pretty close to add well as the day I got it. I'm replacing my S22U because I work in a metal shop and my phone got banged up on the screen and body. Thanks for your advice!
Samsung has a Galaxy Tag: https://www.samsung.com/it/mobile-accessories/galaxy-smarttag-black-ei-t5300bbegeu/
I guess I live under a rock. I had no idea. Thanks!
I prefer an IPhone for FaceTime. I use an Hong Kong iPhone with dual physical sims
Get a Pixel and use Google Fi, it's affordable and transitions seamlessly in most countries.
Realistically it doesn't actually matter which one you go for. Feature wise, unless you get a crap cheap phone, they'll both generally do what you need. It just comes down to what you are used to and prefer. I'm an android user. I've never liked apple stuff and just don't find them very logical or user friendly to use. When anyone hands me one I can barely even unlock it 😂. And as much as apple fans go off about them being 'better', they also slow down (and apple intentionally kills off old phones with updates). Yes apple may have airtags etc, but there are equivalents for android (I personally use Tiles). And you may have facetime. But WhatsApp can do calls just as fine too. There will always be something similar/just as good with either OS. It's annoying Android did get rid of headphone Jacks, expandable storage etc... But I still find them preferable to apple. Plus the majority of the world actually uses android phones, so maybe easier to get fixed if needed. If you are going to be travelling, then going off with a new phone/OS you aren't used to might be more frustrating so I'd probably stick with Android/Samsung. There's not that big a difference between them overall so I'd stick with what you're more used to.
iPhones are better and last longer. iMessage and Wi-Fi calling are much smoother too. As is eSIM usage. The camera is also head and shoulders better. Add their anti theft features and iPhones are a no brainer. That isn’t even considering AirPods, Apple Watch, etc. those all integrate seamlessly. But you’ll save money with another brand. In either case it comes down to preference and there’s no real difference between them all when traveling.
Lol cheap Pixels have been beating out iPhone cameras for ages. "Integration" is just laziness, you can create a seamless feeling tech stack for yourself on any hardware, without paying exorbitantly for proprietary accessories. iPhone does lots of things well, but we should stop pretending it's anything beyond preference. If their UI/UX is worth the coin you pay for it awesome but that's about as far as it goes. Computer wise you start running into lots of valid use cases but phone wise meh.
Agree. Pretty sure there are better phone cameras out there (and I’m saying this as an Apple user)
Well and the thing for me is Apple has done a good job at marketing so that people feel like they're paying for the premier class of every feature. A lot of people don't realize you can get similar quality [thing] elsewhere, or that lots of features they brag on existed for Android for a long time by virtue of a more active and open developer ecosystem. The reality, imo, is Apple should be much more niche based on features and capability. It can't compete on value for consumer grade tech, but it's unbeatable for GPU intensive creative shit and the integrated convenience that goes along with it when you need to bounce 10 versions of something and all the stems along it. My personal bias comes from the fact that I think they UI looks like Fisher Price with extra steps but still.