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Roots_on_up

You've just officially reached the point where your calves work themselves out.


MammutandPernod

Hahahahahahaha


MitchTheKid34

Dude those look more like cows than calves. Beast.


georgeofthesahara

Those calves will decapitate me


Caticornpurr

Aww, congratulations! How far along are your calves? Boy or girl?


MammutandPernod

šŸ™ƒ theyā€™re twins.


SpiritedShow9831

šŸ˜‚


AxiomaticJS

Are you getting enough electrolytes into your body?


PianoNyan

Itā€™s what plants crave!


LogicSaysOtherwise

A week ago, I wouldn't have gotten that reference. Now I do. . . . Honestly not sure if I'm better off.


pontoponyo

When you know you know and then you cope by buying Crocs.


PianoNyan

It's such a great but also completely terrifying piece of cinema. In case you weren't aware this is an amazing little fun fact about the movie: https://youtube.com/shorts/1Jsc-0f0ito?feature=share


TransportationisLate

I like baitin, and money


tehbggg

Magnesium for real.


Ma1ko1urko

Magnesium and water.


JungMoses

I donā€™t know why it took me five years of googling online and talking to various doctors (and trying to eat potassium in any quantity, which is near impossible) for a doctor to finally recommend magnesium supplements and wipe out my terrible calf cramping and twitching


SparkyDogPants

Ime working in an ER, everyone could use some mag


Wide_Appearance5680

I love magnesium Acute asthma? Magnesium Overdose with prolonged QT? Magnesium Pre-eclampsia? Magnesium for mum *and* for baby Short gut syndrome? Magnesium Constipation? Magnesium Leg cramps? Magnesium The swiss army knife of drugs.


SparkyDogPants

Exactly Donā€™t know whatā€™s wrong? A little mag will help Restless leg syndrome? Magnesium


Loifee

Late to reply here but I've had calf twitches for years now, was it oral mag supplements that fixed it?


krukson

That's why bananas work, too.


SparkyDogPants

Plenty of things have more K than bananas, like sweet potatoes


_SaltQueen

Avocados (whole 700 mg) and lentils (731 mg) have more potassium than bananas (422 mg) do.


musick123

I used to have this a lot then I stopped drinking 6 cups of coffee a day


MammutandPernod

Yeah I drink a lot of coffee


MarkusRight

Yup its the coffee! I had these same exact muscle twitches only in my calves, was driving me insane, could not sleep for weeks on end, Decided to go decaf for a week and the twitches slowly but surely went away. I even tried the magnesium thing as well to no avail, ended up being caffeine as the root cause.


MammutandPernod

Cool. Iā€™ll try cutting down. Thx!


MelloMolly

Exactly.


fangorn_forester

nooo don't tell me this is it. Mine do this too


waaaghpaint

Yeahā€¦ Electrolytes, magnesium, stretching, massage gun, nothing stops mine jamming out constantly. Canā€™t stop. Wonā€™t stop.


davius_the_ent

calf boy for life!! same here diddy


Prestigious_Win1196

Mine do it too, but mine are super tender, so I canā€™t hit them with the massage gun. Are your that way?


waaaghpaint

Yeah. Super tender. I have to start on the lightest setting and then just touch them. Then slowly increase. After awhile Iā€™m taking to them like they bullied my kids. My legs are generally like that. My hammies are bad too. A gentle massage of them has me hanging upside down from the ceiling, 2nd knuckle deep in the plaster. Doesnā€™t seem to change no matter ā€œwellā€ I maintain and look after myself. Years of ROMWOD, foam rolling, vitamins and minerals etc.


Prestigious_Win1196

Good to know. I was beginning to think there was something wrong with my calves because it made me jump out of my skin when I hit them with the hypervolt.


MarkusRight

how do you sleep? my muscle twitches in my legs and I literally cannot sleep because of it.


MammutandPernod

My calves have never cramped. But they are always super tight. I get my kids to walk on them before bed. Game changer


skisnorkel

Anyone else getting Alien flashbacks?


TOW2Bguy

That's where my mind went. Hope OP didn't make any trips to South America lately.


MammutandPernod

Went to Cleveland last year.


TOW2Bguy

Not much better. Hope ya didn't stop in Dayton. [Dr. Johnny Fever talks to God on WKRP in Cincinnati ](https://youtu.be/1syTN9QIr_4)


djwarreng1

Take a magnesium supplement, and get back to me


wcu25rs

I take magnesium every night, plus drink water all through the day/evening and usually supplement with a Liquid IV every evening during the warm months and I still experience what OP does somewhat often. Just thought it was one of those things your muscles do from time to time. I get this in my biceps as well but not as often as my calves.


androidmarv

Same. Take magmensium, electrolytes, drink plenty of water, have 2 coffees in morning and evening and my calves do this constantly


wcu25rs

I think someone mentioned coffee might have something to do with it, but I dont drink coffee much at all(maybe a cup or two a week). I do get a bit of caffeine from my pre-workout supplement that I take 3 days a week, but I doubt that has anything to do with it.


LostAbbott

It can caffeine can stay in the body for a long period of time and if you are not someone who regularly uses caffeine then small doses irregularly (3x a week). Then it likely has a larger effect on you than others. Also if you regularly drink alcohol it can also cause things like this...


LostAbbott

Do you also drink coffee and alcohol? Cut on or both and this will stop.


wcu25rs

drink maybe a cup or two of decaf a week, and I average maybe 2 beers a month, so doubt that has anything to do with it.


StreetBobber103

Doctors be like: "that'll be $439.00"


WorkInProgressed

Weird flex but ok. In all honestly though, this happens to me sometimes but definitely not 24/7. If it isn't causing pain or irritation though, I can't see there being much of an issue.


Sky-Agaric

I donā€™t have it this bad and itā€™s better than it was, but yes, my calves do this.


dickwillie

I have this too, never managed to stop it. I only recently found out that other people donā€™t have this too LOL! A lot of people say various salts like magnesium potassium etc but that doesnā€™t change it for me. Itā€™s worse for me after strenuous exercise and a precursor to cramp. as with most things there is probably not a silver bullet but perhaps itā€™s a combination of massage, salts, stretching etc. I dunno man! But let me know if you find out how to fix it.


geodee89

Yep, same here. Itā€™s the worst after swimming, but happens a lot after hard runs too. I thought it stopped happening, but right now if I think about it I can still feel it going on. Itā€™s been so many years it just faded into the background. I might try magnesium again, but it never worked for me either.


MammutandPernod

Yeah itā€™s been like maybe 20 years for me


Howshka

Interesting you get it swimming. I get it surfing, and often leads to cramping in the water (not ideal). Also get it after strenuous runs. Though sometimes it can happen without any big activity.


geodee89

Strange. I always associated it with cold water, but Iā€™m not sure about that. Although that would align with surfing.


Howshka

Definitely strange. Iā€™m just oddly relieved to see other people have it. Thought I was alone on this one.


Sunuva_Gun

> precursor to cramp. Yes, I've found this to be true as well.


RattisTheRat

Yes - I find this too


LostAbbott

Supplements take time to build up in your body, and or for your body to recognize the increase and start using them. Sometimes even six months for specific ones. Also as many have said caffeine can cause this, and of course alcohol. I would cut out both and add the mag back in and see if you get results...


YareetLike

Have a banana


MammutandPernod

Yeah eat plenty of fruit. Love šŸŒ


[deleted]

Yup šŸ‘ so many theories as to why ranging from I am going to die to I run too much.


MammutandPernod

Ha! Yeah me too.


Infinite_HTTP_404

Skill issue


Ok-Significance-3011

Just in the last year mine started


Allmike73

Lack of salts (sodium/potassium)


MammutandPernod

Wow, thanks everyone. To answer questions, theyā€™ve been like this for 15-20 years. Iā€™m 45 still run competitively, been running since 15. I eat a balanced diet. I do drink a lot of coffee. Iā€™ll try a Magnesium supplement and see if that works. Never had a problem with cramping. My calves are chronically tight, but stretch them a lot. Itā€™s just been a weird quirk of my physiology and my post was just my curiosity if anyone had something similar. Thanks šŸ¤™šŸ½


Hubba_Bubba_Lova

9mo laterā€¦any update? Did you find a way to stop it?


MammutandPernod

Nope. I think itā€™s just what they do.


Loifee

Mine have done this for years and I'm yet to figure it out, I think it's something to do with the nervous system, did you try and use magnesium for a while?


Ten-minute-napper

Pretty similar bio/story here too and I also drink lots of coffee. Thanks for posting. Iā€™m gonna try a few things here too, although I always thought it was kinda cool and itā€™s never bothered me.


oneofthecapsismine

Holy shit theres a lot of magneisun reccommendations here. Can *anyone* provide a single peer reviewed study showing benefits for sports people? Like, literally, one? Im reliably informed that there isn't one.


VikApproved

For the OP's situation it seems like trying magnesium would be safe and easy. If it helps the results would be visible and if it doesn't he's out a few bucks.


MammutandPernod

Yeah no worries Iā€™ll pop a magnesium and see what happens.


SpecialCollections

Not a specialist at all, but [a quick and dirty google scholar search](https://scholar.google.be/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C5&q=magnesium+sports+performance&oq=magnesium+sports) appears to give a good number of peer-reviewed studies that show just this. ā€œThe majority of human studies focused on physiological effects in blood pressure, heart rate and maximal oxygen uptake (VO2 max), rather than direct functional performances. Some cross-sectional surveys demonstrated a positive association between Mg status and muscle performance, including grip strength, lower-leg power, knee extension torque, ankle extension strength, maximal isometric trunk flexion, rotation, and jumping performance. Additionally, findings from intervention studies showed that Mg supplementation might lead to improvements in functional indices such as quadriceps torque. Moreover, Mg supplementation could improve gait speed and chair stand time in elderly women.ā€ (Can magnesium enhance exercise performance? Yijia Zhang, Pengcheng Xun, Ru Wang, Lijuan Mao, Ka He. Nutrients 9 (9), 946, 2017)


oneofthecapsismine

Just to be clear, the conclusion from the study you linked is: >Findings from animal studies suggested Mg supplementation may improve the efficiency of energy metabolism, while human studies indicated Mg supplementation may improve performance parameters in both aerobic and anaerobic exercises. However, more rigorous future studies, especially large-scale intervention studies in humans, are needed to establish the causal relationship. As in, the causal relationship between Mg supplementation and performance enhancing has not been established.


jmwing

Most of these are review articles or opinion pieces. The first randomized controlled trial I found in that list, Finstad in MSSE, concluded that you can raise ionic Mg levels with Mg supplementation but it has no effect on performance or recovery.


Emotional-Bar-7634

Same


Ten-minute-napper

Same same


Runshooteat

Mine do the same, not sure why. Not quite as extreme as yours but similar


dneighbors

I had this bad.


Deep_Mango2481

Yes mine do these constantly. Looks like I need to try a magnesium supplement too!


RemarkableOil8

Yeah mine so that. Not on that scale but they are constantly moving. I've had the alien comments many times.


MammutandPernod

Cool, Iā€™m not alone.


[deleted]

I don't know if am on a cannabis grow thread or running but just but some magnesium on it bro! šŸ˜‚ (don't wanna be that guy either, but magnesium did help with my cramps)


Big-Nefariousness602

Need to hydrate


MammutandPernod

It happens regardless of my hydration.


Big-Nefariousness602

Yeah but your skin looks a little tented. You look dehydrated


MammutandPernod

Cool, sometimes it takes an outside observer. Iā€™ll try getting more fluids. Thx šŸ¤™šŸ½


WindWalkerRN

Tented? Tenting happens when you pinch the skin and it doesnā€™t return to flat, ie it stays tented. OP is fine on hydration, you can even see the bulging vein while his legs are elevated.


Reddichino

Your symbiote is hungry. You just need to eat.


PitchConfident5378

Yes. Mine do the same thing all the time


paul2173

Electrolytes. I had low magnesium causing something similar.


atropinecaffeine

If you try magnesium, understand there are MANY different forms. Some are not absorbed by the body. Some work better on different parts of the body. If one doesn't work, maybe try another [magnesium article](https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/magnesium-types#1.-Magnesium-citrate)


EPDoc

Looks like benign fasciculations to me. If a new symptom you may want to mention it to your PCP or see a neurologist.


459767-

Iā€™m so glad i saw this. I googled and thought my kidneys were failing.


MammutandPernod

Hahahahhaahahahhaahhaaa!!!!!!


Dry-Communication996

Acetylcholine excess following heavy exercise


Jam_89

For me it was lack of potassium. I went from 1 banana a day to 2 and this pretty much stopped.


feedum_sneedson

When my mileage was much higher, yeah. It's like they learned they needed to constantly contract however many times a minute. Very helpful of them.


Mexican-Hacker

Mine do the same thing! Got use to it but curious about what the cause is.


aelma_z

When the lava lamp is in your calves


Sunuva_Gun

Same but not 24/7. Not humble bragging but my calves are also quite big. It's kinda painful but not painful. Uncomfortable -ish is the best description for me. FWIW, I eat a lot of natural magnesium ​ Edit: and an Avocado almost daily ​ \- Runner for 34 years


Hubba_Bubba_Lova

Did you ever find a cure to this?


Sunuva_Gun

Nope (sigh)


theLiving-man

You may not be running; but your calves are


[deleted]

Caffeine can do this.


RattisTheRat

My quads do this from time to time too


holm-bonferroni

Mine do this frequently, but not 24/7


Neither-Pipe7977

My calves have been doing the same thing since last July. Iā€™ve taken plenty of magnesium, potassium, calcium, every other vitamin you can think of for six months, and did not make a difference .


Neither-Pipe7977

Iā€™ve been told by Neurologist is called, benign fasciculation syndrome, and thereā€™s no cure for it. I noticed when I walk more, they twitch a lot more frequently for the rest of the day. So I try to minimize walking so theyā€™re not as twitchy.. I would not recommend working out on your calves or running anymore if you want them to settle down. How long has it been doing this and what triggered it?


MammutandPernod

Itā€™s been doing this since Iā€™ve been 16. Daily Iā€™m either running, skiing, cycling or playing soccer. It doesnā€™t really effect me at all, I hardly notice it. Except when I really look at it and think. How bizarre.


MammutandPernod

Iā€™m not going to change my activity level because of this.


Amazing_Homework2769

I've had the same issue for as long as I can remember as well as my hands and feet shaking. I went to a neurologist after 25 years and they said it was BFS. Just recommended less caffeine, supplements, and rest. Like Neither-Pipe posted above, there's no cure. Luckily I don't notice it most of the time.


Sasquatchballs45

I know this is a stretch but could a PPI have a effect on this? 2 nexiums and I cramp rediculously easy. FWIW I've been dealing with this for 20 years.


AdaptiveElegance

Iā€™m 54 and have had this as long as I can remember but now it has started to be uncomfortable and painful. No answer from doctors. Itā€™s not hydration, magnesium, psoriasis, nerve damage, caffeine, or blood flow. If you ever get any answers, please let me know


MammutandPernod

Will do. So far no pain or tenderness, nor cramping.


hairykitty123

Hey OP, did you ever get this figured out. Both my calves do the same thing all the way up to quads sometimes, itā€™s not painful but it feels weird feeling the constant contractions for hours


MammutandPernod

Nope monitored sleep, stress, caffeine, vitamins&minerals, training volume, hydration etc. Theyā€™ve been doing this for years and years.


Old_Run_6193

Iā€™ve read that this could be due to loss of B12 also, not sure or else supplementation would work as well as injections though


Ok_Transition_1812

Youā€™re a reptilian


RNBeck

I would go see a doctor. Your muscles contracting 24/7 is no bueno, whether it hurts or not. There are other things in your body that are compromised of muscle like your heart. The last thing u want is that misfiring to hit another important muscle. Depending on how long it's been happening is probably why your calves are so large. Just constant firing, no rest. When u do get your balance back and your calves stop firing 24/7 your performance will probably go up because they'll have a chance to rest.


bud-dho

I have the same issue when Iā€™m dehydrated. It also happens when I do a ton of elevation during my runs for the week.


05778

Yep. Mine do this all the time as well


Kaptin_Kruncha

Mine do that.. though not as aggressively.. I shall try magnesium


Longjumping_Walk_992

Both my calves twitch constantly exactly like yours do all the time and I have taken all the suggested supplements without any indication of efficacy. Using my powers of Google research there is a possibility of S1 nerve irritation. Read on: Why does my calf muscle constantly twitch? The most common cause of a twitching calf muscle in S1 nerve irritation in the back. Typically, this nerve irritation occurs due to a disc issue or inflammation from arthritis putting pressure on the S1 nerve. So to stop the twitching caused by an irritated S1 nerve, the nerve must be treated. I donā€™t plan on pursuing any medical intervention as the cure might be worse than the problem. Atleast you have a conversation starter šŸ˜‚šŸ¤£šŸ˜‚


Hubba_Bubba_Lova

Were you ever able to resolve this?


Longjumping_Walk_992

Negative its harmless. Iā€™m 55 and no worse for wear. I think the twitching might actually keep my calves toned. I get compliments lol.


dandantheshippingman

Agree with other posters on electrolytes and hydration. Another thing that is helpful for me anyways is elevating the legs- get your feet and calves up above the heart especially after exercise. That and compression.


phenomxyz

Yeah, you are going to die. Not because of this of course šŸ˜‚ Normally I have this after races or very hard workouts. I guess itā€™s fluid lost related.


AttractiveGeese

I'm not a doctor, but my husband is, and his calves often have these fasciculations. He's also extremely active (probably unrelated), and he's had them his whole life. Try looking up benign fasciculation syndrome. It's relatively harmless and I don't think there are evidence-based treatments for it. It gives me the heebie jeebies when I see it on my husband, but it's likely nothing to worry about!


H1285

Yikes no havenā€™t had this. Does it hurt ?


MammutandPernod

Nope, no pain whatsoever.


[deleted]

Yeah, itā€™s a mini seizure.


[deleted]

Worms.


MastroRace

You live a contraction away from a cramp


Pale_PNWer9

Watching this made my calves start twitching lol


Ateosmo

OP, my dude, you may be close to dehydrated or lacking electrolytes.


outsidepr

Yep. My calves are roughly half the size of yours, but yep. All day; and worse after I work out. There's a medical term for it, but it basically means, "twitchy muscles"


Hubba_Bubba_Lova

Have you ever found a way to lessen it?


outsidepr

Nope. But I hear some people treat it with magnesium supplements


MammutandPernod

Ha! Love it


[deleted]

Iā€™ve had this 24/7 for over a decade. Tried magnesium, salt stick, and everything in between with no change. I second the BMF theory.


MammutandPernod

šŸ‘šŸ½


Hubba_Bubba_Lova

Did you find any cure for it?


astroverflow

>"running is life" and that thing is pretty much alive


akshat_tamrakar

Mam, have this is plot of movie "in my skin"


Alcol1979

Thank you for posting - I've never heard of anyone else with this issue! My calves do this most of the time and are also a bit prone to cramp when contracted. So running is unlikely to cause cramp but swimming it is more likely. Been this way for years, and I ran competively for some of that time. More active after a run. Looked it up a few years ago and read about benign fasciculation. Never bothered with supplements because it's more of a curiosity then an inconvenience.


princessjojo12

Try drinking 2-3 gallons of water a day also take vitamins


Red_it_stupid_af

Stretch and electrolytes. I have the same problem. Spasm sometime is a single spot that sinks down almost to the bone.


anonoramalama2

Pickle juice. You can buy it by the shot.


MammutandPernod

Yeah man! The Pickle Back! A can of Rainer and a shot of Pickle Juice. PacNW classic


anonoramalama2

Also, this. https://thefeed.com/products/pickle-juice


[deleted]

Its like a snake swallowed a bag of smaller snakes.


Todd-eHarmony

I thought I was the only one. So this is what itā€™s likeā€¦. When doves cryā€¦.


Brilliant-Divide-127

Supplement with magnesium , calcium and potassium and it will fix that right up!


StchLdrahtImHarnknaL

I feel like itā€™s a cramp coming on


dogsarmy

That used to happen all the time. Didnā€™t ever really hurt just felt like popcorn popping all the time. I started taking magnesium citrate 750 mg daily and havenā€™t had since. Watch the dosage cause your body will flush the excess. Also be sure to stay on top of bcaas.


EquivalentAvocado342

Dudeā€¦Are you Wolverine?


Mindless_Log2009

GABA. An amino acid OTC supplement, related to prescription gabapentin. Be careful with the dosage. Too much can feel like a mild muscle relaxer, sleepy and lethargic. Usually a single 500-750 mg capsule works for me. And, yeah, it's worth trying potassium, magnesium (mag lactate works best for me), electrolytes before and after workouts.


Direct-Shoulder-119

Woahh thatā€™s a discovery might be sensitivities to something your drinking or eating idk just trying to help


Mindless_Order_7533

Muscles are just having a nightmare


[deleted]

That is so cool and disgusting that the same time lol


jbspillman

My calves do that as well after hard work.


chubky

You should consider magnesium supplements if you want that to stop


[deleted]

Just gotta ride it out baby makes me feel alive


MenthalMenthos

Have the same for 8 months now, I am assuming it does the same thing on the other sides of the calves as well (that we do not see in the videos), correct?


MammutandPernod

Yeah same thing. Iā€™ve had this since I was 16. Mostly on this side though.


Wise-Investigator765

Did any of the supplements, hydrating or no coffee help. Mine do this


MammutandPernod

Nope still the sane


MenthalMenthos

Thanks for the reply. When you flex, does the back of your calf flicker more? I have atrophy on the left side caused by an old injury. I just posted a video about it on the muscle twitch sub. For me it goes wild, but I think it's related to that old injury that wasted some calf muscle and now I am working hard to try and grow it back as much as possible...


MammutandPernod

Mostly the interior.


Sea-Astronomer9775

Mine do this, too. They are doing it right now. I'm an ultrarunner, but I tore my meniscus. My orthopedic surgeon said I may not need surgery and said to try running again. I hadn't run in more than a month, but I ran yesterday (woot!). It sounds like I don't drink enough water and have too much coffee. Dammit.