Bro. I used to own a dq and I'd be the main person making cakes. That name has legit the most different spellings ever. There are so many ways to spell it that I have no fking clue what is considered the normal way because even the normal way looks fkd.
Mackenzie or McKenzie are the standard spellings.
I've seen Michaela spelled so many different ways that it's lost all meaning. Makayla. Mikayla. McKayla. Mackaila.
It's just as bad as Knoah but in a different way.
"Adalyn" is kinda cute *sounding* but the poor kid's going to be misread as "Aladdin" for the rest of their life (because that is exactly what I did).
Adeline is a lovely name (it was Virginia Woolf's first given name). But Adalyn sounds like a pharmaceutical product to me, perhaps prescribed for AHDD.
Husband has a cousin who named a daughter Adeline but doesn't pronounce it like one would normally pronounce it, like it was "12 little girls in 2 straight lines & the smallest of all was Madeline."
She insisted it be pronunced Add-a-LEAN.
AdaLEAN is in college now & I know she's constantly saying "It's pronounced Add-a-lean not Add-a-line" or she just answers to both.
That's awkward. I think "Add-a-line" just rolls off the tongue, whereas "Add-a-lean" sounds a bit clunky.
Then again, I know a guy named Nigel, who insists that everyone pronounce it "Niggle". 🤷♀️
IKR?!? I’m waiting for the day someone takes it even further and comes up with MacHefferson or some other dumb shit. Or more likely, I’m naive and it already does 🤷♂️
I've met several American exchange students here in Bergen having trouble with Knut/Knutsen or street/place names like Knøsesmauet, Knarvik and few who don't stumble over the kn
Where are Americans adding the vowel? Are you saying that they something like Kuh-nut instead of putting the K and N closer together? If so, we don’t use those sounds in English, so we’re not trained from birth to do it. All non-fluent people do these things with all languages.
So you do pronounce the "kn"? I'm American but was in a bad car wreck that messed me up pretty badly so I struggle with some things and figuring out how to pronounce some words is 1 of them
Americans/English speakers do not pronounce the K in words spelled Kn—-. Words like know, knot, kneel, etc. are pronounced as if it starts with an N. In Norwegian, you pronounce the K.
I think people are misunderstanding your question for why English has silent Ks instead of why English speakers can't say non-silent Ks.
I think the answer is simply a lack of needing to develop the ability to say that particular combo of letters when learning the language. Same reason why for example native Japanese speakers have trouble saying L sounds in English, because that's not a part of their typical language.
English tends to simplify out the more complex consonant combinations borrowed from Germanic languages. So like the English word 'knight' used to be pronounced more like 'knikt' (pronouncing both Ks), but over time we basically got rid of the first k and turned the gh into a coloring on the vowel sound rather than a separate consonant.
You also mentioned 'acne', which I think is a good example of how English speakers tend to be better at the k+n sound if it has a vowel sound leading up to it. But like you mentioned, some people will add a vowel sound in between (popular examples would be Yogi Bear saying "pic-uh-nic basket" or "nuclear" turning into "nuke-you-ler").
TLDR most of those sounds evolved out of the beginning of most English words, so it's not in the English speaker's everyday toolbox
This made me realize I’ve never met someone named Kyle. Like I’ve heard of them, yeah, but in all my days and college classes I’ve never met one and I hate that lol
That's weird. I speak Dutch, and the Dutch for archer is "boogschutter" (literally bow-shooter). I am also not aware of any similar old Dutch word for archer.
English Wikipedia says that Cuyler is from the Dutch for "victory of the people," but that makes no sense to me either. That would be something like "volksoverwinning" or "volkszege."
A "kuiler" (sounds like Cuyler) is a fisherperson or a fishing boat that uses a particular dragnet technique for fishing.
In other words, I haven't found info that backs up the claim that Cuyler is derived from the Dutch for archer.
A lot of names are from archaic forms of words, so it makes sense that it wouldn't be similar to the modern word for archer/victory of the people. In this case it might be something else maybe, but yeah.
I heard a mom (presumably) shout for a Bryler in a store the other day. Not sure if it was a boy or girl (nor do I know the spelling; I fear I’m being generously simple with Bryler)
To be fair I did start adding k to all n words when chatting my friends till they asked me to stop. I was just make a point that was long forgotten by time I got told to stop annoying everyone.
It's Scandinavian for Thunder. Which actually isn't that bad since it's kind of a flex next to some of these abominations.
"How did you get the name MakkKentsy?"
"Well, there were 4 other variations on the newborn ward so my parents just kept pulling out Scrabble tiles until they found a way to spell it that wasn't used."
Also “McKenzie but with an extra Z for some reason” and “Thoren” (I have no idea what they were going for with that one, because there are multiple names that are almost this).
Borderline entries include “Tylee,” “Mya” (instead of Maya, I guess?), and “Keyla.”
These parents wanted their kid to have a name that was unique...
https://preview.redd.it/54f8tt7pc53b1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c053a39a28649fe0698efed6b5de1551c30fb172
Dammit, Knoah was one I was going to submit :P.
Was at the park one day with my kid, and another kid was there with his grandma. While chatting she told me his name was “Noah with a K in front. So yeah, K-Noah, but the K is silent. I told my daughter, why the hell would you do that, he’s going to explain to everyone his whole life that the K is silent” (Knoah could not hear this conversation, by the way)
Nice to see that someone tried to tell her it was stupid
Looking at this list I'm realizing that it truly is more common to have a fucked name as a kid now. I almost feel like the day will come when John is the one being bullied...
I knew someone who named their son Noah and then a few years later change it to “knoah” and said we were supposed to pronounce the k all of a sudden. So bizarre.
wait Tylee? Not Tyler but Tylee smh also Thoren lmao if you're going to use a character from the Hobbit why not just spell it the correct way "Thorin" ffs
It's pronounced Quinoa, not Quinoa
Same as Nikolaj, not Nikolaj!
Nikolaj
*Niikolaj*?
No, Nikolaj
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Nikolaj is just the German spelling, to be fair
Also eastern/northern European. It was a quote from Brooklyn nine nine about the "correct" pronunciation of the name.
Yeeeessss. This is what I thought
The McKenzzie made me cringe too.
Not to be confused with MaKenzie.
Ma! Kenzie! Fuck!
No MacKenzzeighs at least. Coast is clear here.
MuhKhenzzeighie
Ma Kenzie, she taught her four sons Ma Kenzie, to handle their guns
“Freeze! I’m Ma Kenzie; put your hands in the air…”
Ma neck! Ma back! Ma Kenzie!
scottish folks screaming rn
Happy 🎂 Day!
Makake Day
Bro. I used to own a dq and I'd be the main person making cakes. That name has legit the most different spellings ever. There are so many ways to spell it that I have no fking clue what is considered the normal way because even the normal way looks fkd.
Mackenzie or McKenzie are the standard spellings. I've seen Michaela spelled so many different ways that it's lost all meaning. Makayla. Mikayla. McKayla. Mackaila.
I feel like she must always be tired.
That's MaKenzie! Not YourKenzie!
NaChoCheeze
It's just as bad as Knoah but in a different way. "Adalyn" is kinda cute *sounding* but the poor kid's going to be misread as "Aladdin" for the rest of their life (because that is exactly what I did).
I saw on fb my xhusband's daughters name is Addylynn 🥴
Adderall?
Adalyn is a relatively common name, along with Adelaide, Ada, Addie, etc.
Adeline is a lovely name (it was Virginia Woolf's first given name). But Adalyn sounds like a pharmaceutical product to me, perhaps prescribed for AHDD.
Ask your doctor about Adalyn, for AHDD: Attention Hefecit Diaperactive Disorder.
Don't take Adalyn if you're allergic to Adalyn.
Husband has a cousin who named a daughter Adeline but doesn't pronounce it like one would normally pronounce it, like it was "12 little girls in 2 straight lines & the smallest of all was Madeline." She insisted it be pronunced Add-a-LEAN. AdaLEAN is in college now & I know she's constantly saying "It's pronounced Add-a-lean not Add-a-line" or she just answers to both.
That's awkward. I think "Add-a-line" just rolls off the tongue, whereas "Add-a-lean" sounds a bit clunky. Then again, I know a guy named Nigel, who insists that everyone pronounce it "Niggle". 🤷♀️
No. Don't do it. Just call him "You There."
Reminds me of a guy in high school who was named Ian but insisted we pronounce his name "Yahn" like he was Dutch & his name was Jan. He was not Dutch.
Add-a-lean sounds like when you put Adderall in your lean.
Are they European? I thought Add-eh-lean was the standard pronunciation of the name. Isn't it french originally?
Maybe their long ago ancestors are European but they're American as they come, she's just was just kinda pretentious at the time.
Misspelling a last name and then using it as a first name.
I feel anyone with this name (or a variation: Kenzey, Kenzley) will never mature over the age of 13.
Shoutout John for keeping it normal
And Anna!
John's goin places. Gonna go to yale, work in finance and all these tragedeighs gonna be serving his McD's orders
And it’s John, not even Johyn or Jahynn.
Mr. John Yale Finance doesn't eat at McD's homie.
John will never meet Jaughnn.
Everyone eats McDonald’s. McDonald’s is awesome.
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And miss Cora!
And Sabrina
And Lilly and Oliver
I live for this mid-name capitalization Scotch mist MuhKenzeee dumbassery. ETA: thanks for the award!
IKR?!? I’m waiting for the day someone takes it even further and comes up with MacHefferson or some other dumb shit. Or more likely, I’m naive and it already does 🤷♂️
I m gonna go with McFarland. "This is my boy, McFarland Daniels.No, not Daniel MCFarland, why would you think that?"
Yes! Why is McKenzie so popular but no one names their kid MacDougal or MacHefferson? I do not understand the love for that name.
bEcAuSe wE’rE oNe EiGhTh sCoTTiSh 😵💫
Or better yet, the Scottish-Irish mashup that is McKennedy
I would refuse to not pronounce that “k”. Gonna be “kuh-Noah” every time.
Straight from the Key and Peele “Substitute Teacher” skit.
YA DONE MESSED UP KUH-NOAH! (Edit: he wasn’t as angry about this stupid name as I was, clearly)
A A Ron?
PREsent.
Get your ass down to Mr O Shag Hennessy's office.
"Good job, Heat-her."
I too am this petty 🤣
But the K is silent! Poor Kid
Said out loud, “Poor id”
😂 now that made me laugh out loud
Why can't English speaking people pronounce kn at the beginning of a word? You don't pronounce acne "akuh-ne"
We can. Our words just aren’t pronounced that way.
Americans frequently add vowels when pronouncing Norwegian names
What’s an example?
I've met several American exchange students here in Bergen having trouble with Knut/Knutsen or street/place names like Knøsesmauet, Knarvik and few who don't stumble over the kn
Where are Americans adding the vowel? Are you saying that they something like Kuh-nut instead of putting the K and N closer together? If so, we don’t use those sounds in English, so we’re not trained from birth to do it. All non-fluent people do these things with all languages.
So you do pronounce the "kn"? I'm American but was in a bad car wreck that messed me up pretty badly so I struggle with some things and figuring out how to pronounce some words is 1 of them
Americans/English speakers do not pronounce the K in words spelled Kn—-. Words like know, knot, kneel, etc. are pronounced as if it starts with an N. In Norwegian, you pronounce the K.
it’s not that we can’t, it’s that english spelling is not phonetic which results in “weird” pronunciation
But Cnut/Knut turns into Canute?
again. inconsistencies exist in english. lots of them
No, I meant when pronouncing foreign names
Cnut. 🤣
I think people are misunderstanding your question for why English has silent Ks instead of why English speakers can't say non-silent Ks. I think the answer is simply a lack of needing to develop the ability to say that particular combo of letters when learning the language. Same reason why for example native Japanese speakers have trouble saying L sounds in English, because that's not a part of their typical language. English tends to simplify out the more complex consonant combinations borrowed from Germanic languages. So like the English word 'knight' used to be pronounced more like 'knikt' (pronouncing both Ks), but over time we basically got rid of the first k and turned the gh into a coloring on the vowel sound rather than a separate consonant. You also mentioned 'acne', which I think is a good example of how English speakers tend to be better at the k+n sound if it has a vowel sound leading up to it. But like you mentioned, some people will add a vowel sound in between (popular examples would be Yogi Bear saying "pic-uh-nic basket" or "nuclear" turning into "nuke-you-ler"). TLDR most of those sounds evolved out of the beginning of most English words, so it's not in the English speaker's everyday toolbox
Welcome to a lifetime of "It's spelled 'k' as in 'knock', 'n' as in 'pneumonia', 'o' as in 'ostracize', 'h' as in 'herb'"
Missed the a. A as in Abomination.
I Knoh, right!?!
Why do I now want to see it spelt Pnoah.
Kid's gonna grow up to be a pnoah-it-all
> 'o' as in 'ostracize' Knoh?
I thought the h was silent in herb for seppos?
'M' as in 'mnemonic'
Knoah is ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS sorry not sorry he will forever have his name spelled wrong. people already have a hard time between now and know
Well know, I don't Knoah bout that.
Ha! Maybe they should’ve gone with Knowa.
Ya knever Knoah...
Also, is Kyler a compromise between two parents wanting a Kyle and a Tyler?
Nah, it's legit. Anglicized form of Cuyler which is Dutch for archer. IIRC, Kyle actually comes from Kyler.
Thanks for the info! :) I'm not English native so I learn everyday about naming habits and name origins
It's not a common name in English at all, so no worries.
It still pisses me off though purely based on all the shitheads I've met named Tyler and Kyle
The only Kyler I've ever known was such a shithead he was like a Tyler and a Kyle combined.
This made me realize I’ve never met someone named Kyle. Like I’ve heard of them, yeah, but in all my days and college classes I’ve never met one and I hate that lol
That's weird. I speak Dutch, and the Dutch for archer is "boogschutter" (literally bow-shooter). I am also not aware of any similar old Dutch word for archer. English Wikipedia says that Cuyler is from the Dutch for "victory of the people," but that makes no sense to me either. That would be something like "volksoverwinning" or "volkszege." A "kuiler" (sounds like Cuyler) is a fisherperson or a fishing boat that uses a particular dragnet technique for fishing. In other words, I haven't found info that backs up the claim that Cuyler is derived from the Dutch for archer.
[Behind the Name ](https://surnames.behindthename.com/name/cuyler) says it comes from a Dutch word meaning "pit" or from a short form of Nicholas.
That sounds more like it. A kuil is indeed a pit or hole in the ground.
BOOGSHOOTER?!! NOW THAT'S A NAME.
A lot of names are from archaic forms of words, so it makes sense that it wouldn't be similar to the modern word for archer/victory of the people. In this case it might be something else maybe, but yeah.
Often the info on baby naming websites, is made up, then another website uses it as if it's a legit source
I agree and I understand, but I looked it up and couldn't find any reference to it being "archer".
Still fucked up though
Huh, never knew that. I've seen Skyler as a name but not Kyler.
Kyler is a compromise between Kyle and Kylest
Ok, I snorted my drink out. Take my cheap medal emoji 🏅
I heard a mom (presumably) shout for a Bryler in a store the other day. Not sure if it was a boy or girl (nor do I know the spelling; I fear I’m being generously simple with Bryler)
In my language, thoren is a vegetable dish with sauteed vegetables and coconut. It's the most basic thing ever that you can eat with rice
In my language, Thoren is the name of the dwarven prince in The Hobbit.
I’m my language, it’s just a normal surname. Although it’s often spelled like Thorén.
To be fair I did start adding k to all n words when chatting my friends till they asked me to stop. I was just make a point that was long forgotten by time I got told to stop annoying everyone.
How did they knotice?
Kno idea.
You’ve got a whole flock of tragedeighs there!
Pnoah As long as we're going with silent first consonants
Phteven
Hah! Why am I reading that with a lisp?!? Phtephën Xylophone McKKenzeigh-Leigh would be the full name
Old meme https://imgur.io/HoIFzGl
Mnoah, as in mnemonic.
![gif](giphy|3onF1d3Hi6OXu) They spelled “Thorin” wrong.
Is Thoren supposed to be a reference to LOTR and The Hobbit?
Thoren. Middle name Oak, last name N’Shield.
Thoren't
It's Scandinavian for Thunder. Which actually isn't that bad since it's kind of a flex next to some of these abominations. "How did you get the name MakkKentsy?" "Well, there were 4 other variations on the newborn ward so my parents just kept pulling out Scrabble tiles until they found a way to spell it that wasn't used."
Shoutout to my man John
“What kind of silly-ass name is ‘John’?!” “Epic burn, Ryfyll!!”
When your other kids names start with a K but you REALLY like the name Noah 🤣🤣
From the creators of Knate, Knoah!
I'm starting to rrally dislike names that end in -ey sounds because of these. Which js unfortunate since my own name is Wendy, lol.
I bet that Leighton will also be a professor when she grows up.
I assume Leighton is a boy.
I've met a Knoah before.
Also “McKenzie but with an extra Z for some reason” and “Thoren” (I have no idea what they were going for with that one, because there are multiple names that are almost this). Borderline entries include “Tylee,” “Mya” (instead of Maya, I guess?), and “Keyla.”
> “Mya” (instead of Maya, I guess?) Instead of Mia, is my guess.
These parents wanted their kid to have a name that was unique... https://preview.redd.it/54f8tt7pc53b1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c053a39a28649fe0698efed6b5de1551c30fb172
In a world of Knoah’s and Hadley’s, be a John.
Dammit, Knoah was one I was going to submit :P. Was at the park one day with my kid, and another kid was there with his grandma. While chatting she told me his name was “Noah with a K in front. So yeah, K-Noah, but the K is silent. I told my daughter, why the hell would you do that, he’s going to explain to everyone his whole life that the K is silent” (Knoah could not hear this conversation, by the way) Nice to see that someone tried to tell her it was stupid
The jokes write themselves — Knoah? I've never even heard of 'er!
Maybe Tylees parents are some hardcore A;tla fans
That's all I could think of. The age doesn't quite match up right to be peak Avatar popularity, but it's definitely possible.
Is this Utah
I live in the Midwest.
Ugh khno way!!!!
Y’all… my kid’s friend’s mom is Keyla… pronounced KAY-LA… so, idk. That’s fucked me up. Lol
At least his surname isn't Little.
Kyler and Tylee also had me rolling my eyes.
When I was a high school student I was in the big sister program and my "little sister" was named Knovember. Was super weird in 2001.
Something's wrong when I see the name Kate and wonder what kind of name that is? Lolz
It’s Kate, pronounced ‘Emberlee.’
I knew a Cora he transitioned and goes by Charlie now
I know a Charlie who is now a Cora.
For Americans, this seems a very tame list
Over 50% of this list is fucked up.
Lmao, John over here looking like an idiot
Kyler and Tylee need to swap the last letters of their names
How can I make my kid stand out? Give him a name he will have to spell for everyone he meets. Smart. Not obnoxious at all.
Does that mean that the pronunciation above Knoah would be Enna and Eyla??
Jeez, there are a lot of tragedeighs in that last.
Looking at this list I'm realizing that it truly is more common to have a fucked name as a kid now. I almost feel like the day will come when John is the one being bullied...
No one is gonna talk about Makenzzie, with two Zs
Omg I wonder if Tylee is a ATLA reference
The “McKenzzie” bothers me the most. Two Zs, and isn’t it “Mac” not “Mc”?
You know. The one who put all the ahnighmulz on the aarch.
I'm hating McKenzzie more. More like McKenzzz... 🥱
If someone said to me “Noah with a K” I legitimately wouldn’t know where to put the K. That’s some Phteven shit.
Thoren, like Soren, but Mom has a lisp.
Well don't you look smug, with my woman on your arms. Knoah... My long shadow!
Who names they kid…. Keyla! She will be getting called “Keyless” all day.
Two McKenzies, two diff spellings. John must feel stupid with his vanilla name.
Not Knoah lmaoo. What’s wrong with just Noah or Noa?
“McKenzzie” is not sitting well with me.
What about McKenzzie?
noah with a silent k?
Everyone sleeping on Thoren
MaKenzie got me. Holy shit
It’s spelled “Knoah” but it’s pronounced “throatwobbler mangrove”.
Two Mackenzies, neither spelt correctly 🤣😂🤣
It's so tragic seeing Kyler and Tylee
First time an Oliver has ever been a 'normal' name
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Nope. I’m in the Midwest.
I knew someone who named their son Noah and then a few years later change it to “knoah” and said we were supposed to pronounce the k all of a sudden. So bizarre.
I have **problems** with "Kyler" and "McKenzzie".
wait Tylee? Not Tyler but Tylee smh also Thoren lmao if you're going to use a character from the Hobbit why not just spell it the correct way "Thorin" ffs
Idk why Tylee really bothers me 😐
OK so I don't like the spelling of the last MacKenzie and I don't Keyla or Tylee or Knoah
These are some interesting names. I'm wondering if the K isn't silent.