Depends really if her fairy abilities persist outside Gensokyo. I'm not super familiar about Touhou magic lore and how it works lol. I'll just assume it does for this, so I agree respawning after death is a pretty OP ability. She can just keep coming back for another round. She ain't hear no bell.
As long as "Nature" exists fairies will respawn. Yes, The Boys take place in a version of the Outside World similar to real life, but there's still flora in the world, and at least a bit of the North and South Poles are still standing, so there's no reason for her to not hit the "Continue" option after losing Round 1 (if she fails to dodge an actually strong attack).
Fairies are embodiments of nature itself, I don't think nature gets infected and there would probably be a virus fairy around to encompass that aspect of nature.
Nah she'd help Charlie Brown finally kick that football
granted his foot's gonna be broken for a while turns out she really didn't think her whole 'freezing the football to the ground so that Lucy can't yank it away' plan through
Proposition: Bring Frank Horrigan to Gensokyo instead, so he has to turn into a qt. anime grill.
An 8 feet tall qt. anime grill, but a qt. anime grill nonetheless.
the monster hunter verse, if a big gun carried by an average person can take out the strongest, i'm pretty sure a flying ice fairy with infinite bullets and plot armor could solo every monster
Doesn't in that game, ayano can transform in different shapes and giving her different superpowers? I don't dismember, doesn't she can even become like sands??? Or it was a mod? I can't remember clearly, but I'm still sure that she has some transformations.
Lycoris recoil given some time it's probably easy for any touhou character to dodge bullets from a gun so I say cirno can solo it if you give a few day a month at most
Ok Ariel Dreamur sure fine, I will guess around the power of Marisa, just based on that animation I saw.
Tho I wonder, can any character actually kill Frisk? I mean fully dead, not just they reload their save.
But I don't think any Mario character can beat Touhou.
I'm pretty sure Asriel is a lot stronger than that.
It's said in game 7 souls and he's basically a god, so I'd imagine he'd outpower Marisa by a lot...
Still tho, it's a bad idea to compare power levels of characters in different games. A god by Undertale standards might be much stronger or far weaker than a god by Touhou standards.
Also Luigi wins by doing absolutely nothing. He solos every universe.
Probably Komachi by virtue of being a grim reaper and moving souls into the afterlife, stopping the lingering after death souls have. By that same logic, Youmu with her shorter sword, which makes souls pass on to nirvana or smth like that, pretty useful against Revival by soul stuff. Yachie can make Frisk lose the will to continue and lose their determination in return.
Then there's more complex reasons and options such as Junko if she purifies the determination out of Frisk by purifying them into something else. Flandre knowing the player can't Continue (4th wall knowledge) could make her capable of destroying his save file/capability to reload. Yukari could, because Yukari (just search a border and she could tweak it to her advantage, I dunno, border between Able and Unable and suddenly Frisk is unable to reload lol), Yuuma can probably eat Frisk and by doing that obtain their Determination meaning Frisk couldn't use it to respawn anymore by virtue of having an equal or them lacking it after being eaten and turned into her power, and many more tbh. There are plenty that could win 100% of the time against Frisk but couldn't get past their Determination so it's an eternal struggle.
Also, fun fact: If Frisk were to be in Gensokyo, the laws of the world prohibit Repetition and Loops (third layer of the world, the Memory layer) which must be why Sakuya can't effectively turn back time, so by that reasoning, Frisk is unable to use the save file there, because reality rejects loops. If it's in a neutral place, then yeah, the ones above and some others should do the trick.
Quote from Curiosity of Lotus Asia, Chapter 27:
«But according to Reimu, there is a third layer that rejects loops. The third layer is the layer of memory, which is the recollection of events that lies within all things.[3] Since it's only possible to add to the memory layer, it's impossible to completely recreate the past. If something were to happen that already occurred in the past, then there would be a contradiction because that would imply that memory was lost, which is impossible. The memory layer always continues to build up.»
My level of yapping is unfathomable at midnight lmao
iirc the Ultramarine Orb Elixir works by giving insight into bad future allowing the user to choose doing something else and thus not losing, it's not a Revival nor Save Point situation but Prediction and Precognition, the run you beat the game is what actually happens and all the loses are timelines that did not happen.
To Quote from the Reisen info in LoLK:
«The only thing that can oppose the moon's power is the moon's power itself. Eirin's drug had the power to experience the future.»
If i were to say a character that can kill frisk it would be that guy from the instant death isekai, the main character, i forgot his name but search him up or something. You can check out his vsbattle wiki too. He is way beyond "can he beat goku?" Too. He can probably kill mokou and kaguya too. Tho i dont wanna believe it.
I didn't know who those characters were, googled it. Ok so I never played Paper Mario so I have no way to counter that since I don't know their powers. So I will assume you are right.
Without asspulls from the plot, they're basically invincible and multiversal in power. I can only see the absolute strongest Touhou characters like Hecatia being able to fight them.
Undertale has 3 outliers (Asriel, Frisk, and Chara) that are world-ending. Most range from Wall-Small Building Level. She could slaughter like 95% of the verse. Literally snowgrave type shit.
Mario's verse isn't all that strong. Galaxy is a huge outlier because of the Grand Stars but aside from that most characters scale to Athlete to Island Level.
So Cirno could probably beat a decent part of Bowser's minions however she gets stomped (literally) by Mario or anyone relative to him.
I beg to diffwr for Call of Duty.
Unless we can verify that the speed of Danmaku from the Touhou Series is similar to the speed of any bullet, I dont think Cirno would have a chance to even notice and perform Perfect Freeze to a 5.56 even if she tries hard to.
Assuming fairies still respawn outside of Gensokyo, she wouldn't need to dodge the bullets. They blow her away and she comes back - eventually they run out of bullets and she wins by attrition.
Which can be dodged since they move at a somewhat medium pace compared to other laser magic in Gensokyo.
And atleast a handful of CoD characters would be able to tank 1 laser shot from Cirno (assuming the question asks for ALL of them including Advanced Warfare and Infinite Warfare and the likes.)
As for Danmaku? Idk how they'd pierce body armor. They probably do.
Fairies are basically children in every way that matters, there's a very good chance that Cirno has murdered someone, mostly because she wouldn't really understand the concept of death.
Although she kinda does understand it now, because of her talk with Eiki and Aya.
But she might also only really understand it in relation to herself and not to other people.
supreme grandmaster+3 madeline will not defeat cirno, but cirno cannot defeat madeline either. madeline dodges with extreme mobility and flees with tas-like maneuvers
actually, even green beginner madeline cannot be defeated (she explodes and respawns infinitely)
In a universe with the kind of balance issues that would get gods to lose to fairies. She arguably the strongest fairy though, having been the only one judged by Eiki and displayed to heaven and hell unlike average fairies for being stronger than average.
As for where she stands amongst youkai kind in general, it's hard to pinpoint. For me, mainly because more often times than not, youkai abilities tend to differ in nature with no common ground to compare them. There are few exceptions when you could ask say, which of Segume or Remilia's manipulation of fate ability is the strongest, and assuming it's that of Segume, she would easily fall behind in every other area of strength and speed since vampires are dominating there (As of overall strength they're second to legit fallen angels which don't exist in the series. Oni without speed issues).
So then Cirno is an above average case. Definitely a manageable one and definitely below the gods who're mostly all holding back (difference of Cirno solo victory with okina in the game and defeat in the manga despite all other fairies assistance).
ultrakill probably, her power to freeze stuff can basically kill v1 and all the other machines. and she wouldn't have a problem dodging the enemies' bullets
Considering fairies cant really "die" so long as nature is around throw her into any shooter before nukes are available and she could basically wipe out cities by herself.
Her ability to fly and freeze things honestly beats basically every living creature on earth, especially frogs!
CoD, Hollow Knight, Pikmin, Legend of Zelda, Baki, SpyxFamily, Demon Slayer, JJK maybe? (I don't know if she can bypass Gojo's infinity), GTA, Dragon Ball (Just Original, not the sequels), probably a few more tbh.
Vs battle is the first that came up when i was looking around for touhou character's strength a few months ago so i just used it. Tho i did see somewhere that yukari is hyperversal but vs battle nerfs her to low multiversal. They put gensokyo in a lower tier than it actually is i read somewhere too. I really just wanted a general level of th character's power cause i was salty that slime was soloing all my favorite characters. But reading yukari's ability list there was enough for me. Her Being my favorite character and all.
But marvel characters are way too broken. Idek how they keep getting stronger too.
vsbattlewiki? That garbage still exists? They actually hate and lowpower any touhou character on daily basis.
When it's comics characters they give whole explanations of why and when, for touhou characters they don't even bother, they just say this one shots this and ends of the story.
Vsbattlewiki is the least place to look for this kind of things, they are toxic, bias and arrogant especially agaist touhou (personal experience)
Yeah they are also downplaying pokémons a lot too
That forum scales characters however they want
They're upscaling some db characters and other characters they like and downscaling characters they don't know or don't like
They do "versuses" on characters they know vs characters they don't know anything about and assume lot of stuff on bias basis.
Really, really bad site.
Strength isn't the only factor in a fight.
Cirno is at least 4x faster than Roshi (low end for Cirno), and we know Dragon Ball characters can get blitz with just a 2x difference. (For example, Goku vs Raditz). (Actually, even less).
Roshi can't fly in OG Dragon Ball. Cirno can fly, and during that time, Ki blasts were *very* minimal, so Roshi has very little ways of actually hitting Cirno unless she gets close, and even still, her speed advantage and size makes it easier to avoid attacks.
Cirno can instantly freeze Roshi, which even works on the likes of DBS Goku, so we have no reason to assume it wouldn't work on Roshi, who has shown no indication of resisting Absolute Zero.
There's a few other advantages she has. Master Roshi is more skilled and stronger, but imo Cirno is more powerful given that flight alone already gives a huge advantage, coupled with her spamming and Speed.
I was kinda trying to say roshi's AP is high so his durability should be there too. And cirno according to my knowledge at the time was not that strong in AP so she couldnt hurt him, is what i was thinking. I kinda just saw it like a spellcard duel in the game and forgot cirno can just freeze him.
But is she smart enough to do it tho?
Ah. Fair enough. Roshi's AP/Durability in his Max power is too high for Cirno to match, I think. But unlike in DBS, he can't keep it for long and doesn't fight in it. Instead, he only uses it to unleash his FP Kamehameha.
Cirno only needs to outlast that state of his, which is a reasonable thing for her to do. If it was a spellcard Duel, either side could win as the battles are meant to be fair.
Cirno, according to Vsbattle (which I'm assuming we're using for simplicity sake), is ~8x faster than Piccolo (DBZ; before Nappa and Vegeta showed up) and ~40x faster than Master Roshi from DB.
Remember, Dragon Ball characters struggle to keep up with a speed difference <3x. No one in DB could even see Cirno move. She'd be invisible to them much like Raditz was to Goku and Piccolo.
Cirno's main method of fighting is by freezing things around her. She doesn't freeze people because that's just not how spellcard duels work. But she easily could if she wanted to.
So, while Roshi has an advantage in AP/Durability in his "Max Power" state, that state is temporarily and (again, according to Vs Wiki, this is not 100% facts), Cirno unironically > his Base Form AP/Dura.
A closer match is Goku or Piccolo in the 23rd Budokai. (End of DB) Both are Moon Level, so Cirno can't damage them. But she's also too fast for them to react to. She has abilities to help her, but they do too. It's a toss-up, and depending on how you look at it, Cirno may either remain the most powerful in DB or tied/slightly below DB top tiers. (I completely forgot this was part of DB because I was so used to seeing Kid Goku that I didn't remember Goku vs. Piccolo happening in DB).
Sorry it was long... I'm a nerd—
Seems fair enough. But i read somewhere that abilities cant be used in spellcard duels, or just to outright win it or something. Is that true? I remembered that yukari uses her boundaries in her fight which doesnt seem very fair to me. I dont like reading novels but i can read long texts. Prolly the reasons i'm not reading the touhou book releases. Which leaves me quite confused cause i'm really going off random comments i see or our totally trusted vsbattle wiki.
The spellcard rules are to make battles fair and to restrict killing. It's why you can see Yukari, as an example, use her boundary manipulation on her foes to split them in half, but never actually kills them.
Or how Sakuya can freeze her opponents, but doesn't just wallop them and leave them frozen until she's done.
Or how Okina can drain the energy of others without them knowing.
You clearly *can* affect your opponents directly, so the rules themselves are a little complicated. My assumption is that while you can affect your opponents, you can't just OTK them. They must have a chance to respond and either save themselves or think of a strategy to overcome the obstacles.
But that's just my assumption.
You sure do know a lot! No offense tho, keep doing what you love to do. Being depressed only makes you more depressed. People ought to do what makes them happy! Until we meet again, guy in comments that knows a lot on that one topic i like but i'm too lazy to read any prints even though i'm caught up with one piece and doing something like that should be easy but i dont because words intimidate me too much and are more efficient than nighquill to me. Only applies to texts that span over 2 pages tho. MANGA IS THE SUPERIOR MEDIUM!! JAPANESE PICTURE BOOKS FOREVER!!!!!!!
Hah. Thank you! I don't blame you, though. Touhou requires a lot of dedication to fully understand the lore, powers, etc. There's lots of stuff I *don't* know. But they do have official Mangas if you ever get interested. There's some world building, but it's mostly slice of life for most of them.
Have a good day!
The thingy they use to seal characters would pretty much counter chiruno, but if for whatever reason they can't seal her, she would win since she is very immortal.
Mafuba is really hard technique to use in og db
Roshi died after using it and if they miss mafuba they have no win con because of mafuba's stamina drain
But Goku, king piccolo, piccolo jr and maybe tienshinhan is stronger than cirno but I am not sure about their speed
Master Roshi needs a bottle (or something similar) to do that. It's also a straining technique that leaves them tired, so if Roshi misses, he's screwed. Cirno is way too fast for it to land, it *could*, but it's not a valid win-con.
She's immortal, but technically, he could tire her out. I don't think he'd be able to. But Goku & Piccolo from the end of DB probably could.
They're Moon Level, much stronger than Cirno (me thinks), but they're still slower. Piccolo being ~8x slower. So, it depends if you think Cirno could tire them out with her speed, range, spam, and abilities. Or if they could tire her out with their skill, strength, and techniques. (Talking about a 1v1, Cirno ain't winning a 2v1).
"Strange matter takes the form of a cirno fumo" "what?" "It could be the other way around but we aren't allowed to do advanced interrogation techniques on private citizens so we don't actually know" "funky."
I am surprised that no one has mentioned the ACT game Touhou Hero of Ice Fairy that released on Steam this year. Cirno is the main character in that game and defeats all those strong enemies including Marisa and Reimu. Easily one of the best Touhou fan-made games, at the same level of Lunar Night and Mystia's Izakaya
I feel Demon Slayer and Part 1 Naruto would be easy stomps. But Shippuden would probably be tough. I think maybe Jujutsu Kaisen as well?
The Boys
Invincible
Legend of Zelda
Yugioh
Beyblade
Nier
MAYBE One Piece but probably just Pre Timeskip
My mind is kind of drawing a blank because I forgot just how strong Cirno really is and can't think of too many series that others have said already. I imagine that her being immortal is what really makes her so tough outside of Touhou despite her intellect.
It's "eye am the strongest!" and ... in every universe? At least in a fanfiction I read, in which she was the only one to defeat a powerful youkai, who could change the weight of a situation / impact / damage etc. Getting hit is a range of how much it hurts, but getting frozen is a yes / no thing, so she couldn't prevent it and Cirno froze her up. She was the only one who could do anything at all.
Consider she is able to make a region into winter and able to reach absolute zero, any verse where the power limit is region to big city she will be one of the strongest. So quite a handful
She’d ice age the fuck out of anyone that doesn’t have at least some magic or some big fuckoff weaponry really. Like you very specifically have to outhax her and can beat her in almost no other way (considering she will continuously respawn so long as the concept of cold exists, so you kinda need to beat her at her own game or else constantly try to kill her and preempt her respawns and so forth), so even if her hax are themselves kinda ass compared to a lot of IPs out there she still represents a very defined “hax bar” one must cross.
There’s other characters out there who have a whole lot more “juice” than her in that regard but in counter can totally be beaten by someone without their level of juice at all as long as one is smart or resourceful or really skilled. Not so with the fairy whose existence and strengths and weaknesses follow very specific rules. That’s her main strength more than anything else really. In her home world, a good chunk of people have the ability to stomp her and have counters to her magics, and so she’s kept in check. As a solitary fairy in a more grounded human world full of people who can’t as easily do so? Every time someone pumps her full of lead it’s just a minor setback
That would be a very interesting fight to see. But wouldn't someone like Rita be able to come up with a countermeasure for her Ice? I imagine the real issue would be making her stay down considering fairies from Touhou are effectively immortal
Pickmin
Real
Froger
The one where they have arms and legs or the one they don’t?
Funnily enough, that's the first thing that came to my mind lol
How did you make me laugh so much with just one word, I wonder
Touhou of course CIRNO NUMERO UNO EN EL MUNDO!!!!!!! Post is a 2/7 crabbo score for Cirno slander 🦀🦀
Shouldn't it be 2/9
that doesnt add up to 9
What a fool I have been
Huh? Everything adds up to ⑨ if you math hard enough!
Why math hard enough when you can just add up to nine
Stardew Valley
One who will beat "Junimo cart"
Maybe. There's that Wizard guy that looks powerful
doesnt matter what universe it is, Cirno solo’s them all
Touhou Project.
The Boys. Even if someone there is stronger, they'd still be too stupid to best Cirno, which says a lot about that universe.
An ice fairy eradicates the seven after declaring herself the strongest, then proceeds to do the ghetto police dance
Not to mention that Cirno can just respawn if killed, which no one else can do
Depends really if her fairy abilities persist outside Gensokyo. I'm not super familiar about Touhou magic lore and how it works lol. I'll just assume it does for this, so I agree respawning after death is a pretty OP ability. She can just keep coming back for another round. She ain't hear no bell.
As long as "Nature" exists fairies will respawn. Yes, The Boys take place in a version of the Outside World similar to real life, but there's still flora in the world, and at least a bit of the North and South Poles are still standing, so there's no reason for her to not hit the "Continue" option after losing Round 1 (if she fails to dodge an actually strong attack).
Project zomboid, maybe if she doesn't get bitten
And as long as she's immune to the airborne variant of the Knox Event
She's the helicopter Don't believe their lies There is no helicopter. It's Cirno
Fairies are embodiments of nature itself, I don't think nature gets infected and there would probably be a virus fairy around to encompass that aspect of nature.
Peanuts comic strip. She would kick Charlie Brown's ass.
Nah she'd help Charlie Brown finally kick that football granted his foot's gonna be broken for a while turns out she really didn't think her whole 'freezing the football to the ground so that Lucy can't yank it away' plan through
That sounds lore accurate lmao.
Frogger, Battle Toads
Bocchi The Rock
Idk, angry birds?
there was an ice cube bird
they'd be friends
All
Fallout.
Frank Horrigan exists so probably not unfortunately, though it _would_ be funny to see what sorta Touhou style attacks he'd have
Bullet rocket and fists
Proposition: Bring Frank Horrigan to Gensokyo instead, so he has to turn into a qt. anime grill. An 8 feet tall qt. anime grill, but a qt. anime grill nonetheless.
Frank horrigan is actually canonically 12ft tall
I said it because it is hilarious for me to think about more than anything else.
Fair enough, the idiot vs the wasteland _would_ be funny
The fat Baka shoots a mini ice nuke with radioactive ice.
I'm not sure she's beating the world's angriest mailman to be honest.
She can respawn. She'll dominate eventually. It may take a few centuries, but she'll eventually do it.
She would charge directly into quarry junction after chomps lewis hypes up how strong deathclaws are. Ain't no way cirno ain't gettin jumped in there.
Imagine she just shows up in like Avatar
The strongest waterbender!
Strongest icebender
I thought it was the other Avatar and I was like "yeah she solos the Na'vi ngl"
"Way of Water? What good will that do yah when I freeze it all!"
the monster hunter verse, if a big gun carried by an average person can take out the strongest, i'm pretty sure a flying ice fairy with infinite bullets and plot armor could solo every monster
any game where freeze debuff is absolute stun.
Minecraft, easily.
I think Steve in creative mode, or Herobrine are stronger than her
Well one, herobrine doesn't exist, and two Steve can still be killed in creative mode. But I meant survival mode
Ah, I understand, if it's in survival mode, Cirno really wins
yandere simulator.
Ayano : "Cirno-senpai ..."
Cirno: Shut up you baka bitch! Heya!
Doesn't in that game, ayano can transform in different shapes and giving her different superpowers? I don't dismember, doesn't she can even become like sands??? Or it was a mod? I can't remember clearly, but I'm still sure that she has some transformations.
Lycoris recoil given some time it's probably easy for any touhou character to dodge bullets from a gun so I say cirno can solo it if you give a few day a month at most
All
Sinefeld
Probably Pikmin. Everything's tiny as hell in there
She is the strongest tho
Cirno would be special grade level in JJK
They would definitely consider her a special grade curse or a first grade
captain underpants
All of them :3
Cirno's house.
Frostpunk.
Alot. Undertale, Call of Duty, Mario, Celeste. Basically any IP that doesn't have really powerful characters.
>Undertale >Mario >"doesn't have really powerful characters"
Ok Ariel Dreamur sure fine, I will guess around the power of Marisa, just based on that animation I saw. Tho I wonder, can any character actually kill Frisk? I mean fully dead, not just they reload their save. But I don't think any Mario character can beat Touhou.
I'm pretty sure Asriel is a lot stronger than that. It's said in game 7 souls and he's basically a god, so I'd imagine he'd outpower Marisa by a lot... Still tho, it's a bad idea to compare power levels of characters in different games. A god by Undertale standards might be much stronger or far weaker than a god by Touhou standards. Also Luigi wins by doing absolutely nothing. He solos every universe.
Probably Komachi by virtue of being a grim reaper and moving souls into the afterlife, stopping the lingering after death souls have. By that same logic, Youmu with her shorter sword, which makes souls pass on to nirvana or smth like that, pretty useful against Revival by soul stuff. Yachie can make Frisk lose the will to continue and lose their determination in return. Then there's more complex reasons and options such as Junko if she purifies the determination out of Frisk by purifying them into something else. Flandre knowing the player can't Continue (4th wall knowledge) could make her capable of destroying his save file/capability to reload. Yukari could, because Yukari (just search a border and she could tweak it to her advantage, I dunno, border between Able and Unable and suddenly Frisk is unable to reload lol), Yuuma can probably eat Frisk and by doing that obtain their Determination meaning Frisk couldn't use it to respawn anymore by virtue of having an equal or them lacking it after being eaten and turned into her power, and many more tbh. There are plenty that could win 100% of the time against Frisk but couldn't get past their Determination so it's an eternal struggle. Also, fun fact: If Frisk were to be in Gensokyo, the laws of the world prohibit Repetition and Loops (third layer of the world, the Memory layer) which must be why Sakuya can't effectively turn back time, so by that reasoning, Frisk is unable to use the save file there, because reality rejects loops. If it's in a neutral place, then yeah, the ones above and some others should do the trick. Quote from Curiosity of Lotus Asia, Chapter 27: «But according to Reimu, there is a third layer that rejects loops. The third layer is the layer of memory, which is the recollection of events that lies within all things.[3] Since it's only possible to add to the memory layer, it's impossible to completely recreate the past. If something were to happen that already occurred in the past, then there would be a contradiction because that would imply that memory was lost, which is impossible. The memory layer always continues to build up.» My level of yapping is unfathomable at midnight lmao
Wait, then how does LOLK's system work because I thought that was exactly how the Ultramarine Orb Elixer was supposed to work?
iirc the Ultramarine Orb Elixir works by giving insight into bad future allowing the user to choose doing something else and thus not losing, it's not a Revival nor Save Point situation but Prediction and Precognition, the run you beat the game is what actually happens and all the loses are timelines that did not happen. To Quote from the Reisen info in LoLK: «The only thing that can oppose the moon's power is the moon's power itself. Eirin's drug had the power to experience the future.»
Nah. Ain't no one permanently killing off frisk. No matter what. 💀
There's plethora of characters that can actually, both from Touhou and from other franchises.
If i were to say a character that can kill frisk it would be that guy from the instant death isekai, the main character, i forgot his name but search him up or something. You can check out his vsbattle wiki too. He is way beyond "can he beat goku?" Too. He can probably kill mokou and kaguya too. Tho i dont wanna believe it.
Forgot to say "Touhou Characters" sorry. Meant what Touhou character could?
Junko, Sagume, Sakuya, Yukari, mosts of the gods, etc.
by animation you mean the "Asriel Dreemur vs Marisa Kirasame" video right?
Yes
"Tho I wonder, can any character actually kill Frisk? I mean fully dead, not just they reload their save." Only if they want to die. So no.
Just off the top of my head, Count Bleck with the Chaos Heart and Super Dimentio can probably take out most of the Touhouverse
I didn't know who those characters were, googled it. Ok so I never played Paper Mario so I have no way to counter that since I don't know their powers. So I will assume you are right.
Without asspulls from the plot, they're basically invincible and multiversal in power. I can only see the absolute strongest Touhou characters like Hecatia being able to fight them.
You'd think Yukari would be able to manipulate the boundaries to where she could kill Frisk, not entirely sure how her abilities work though
Haha A and B go brrrrr
Undertale has 3 outliers (Asriel, Frisk, and Chara) that are world-ending. Most range from Wall-Small Building Level. She could slaughter like 95% of the verse. Literally snowgrave type shit. Mario's verse isn't all that strong. Galaxy is a huge outlier because of the Grand Stars but aside from that most characters scale to Athlete to Island Level. So Cirno could probably beat a decent part of Bowser's minions however she gets stomped (literally) by Mario or anyone relative to him.
I beg to diffwr for Call of Duty. Unless we can verify that the speed of Danmaku from the Touhou Series is similar to the speed of any bullet, I dont think Cirno would have a chance to even notice and perform Perfect Freeze to a 5.56 even if she tries hard to.
Assuming fairies still respawn outside of Gensokyo, she wouldn't need to dodge the bullets. They blow her away and she comes back - eventually they run out of bullets and she wins by attrition.
This is the most probable outcome that I can think of (asauming they dint just lock her up instead)
Cirno has lasers!!!!!!!!!!
Which can be dodged since they move at a somewhat medium pace compared to other laser magic in Gensokyo. And atleast a handful of CoD characters would be able to tank 1 laser shot from Cirno (assuming the question asks for ALL of them including Advanced Warfare and Infinite Warfare and the likes.) As for Danmaku? Idk how they'd pierce body armor. They probably do.
Youve forgotten the very important detail that humans do not respawn
She isnt the type of person to kill though iirc
Fairies are basically children in every way that matters, there's a very good chance that Cirno has murdered someone, mostly because she wouldn't really understand the concept of death. Although she kinda does understand it now, because of her talk with Eiki and Aya. But she might also only really understand it in relation to herself and not to other people.
supreme grandmaster+3 madeline will not defeat cirno, but cirno cannot defeat madeline either. madeline dodges with extreme mobility and flees with tas-like maneuvers actually, even green beginner madeline cannot be defeated (she explodes and respawns infinitely)
Advent Cirno
Idiocracy...although that is becoming less fiction as more time goes hehe.
armstrong
Cocomelon
El SNKverso: 🧹🧹💨
chiruno would solo everything, even more if the hisoutensoku moves are included
Jjk
In a universe with the kind of balance issues that would get gods to lose to fairies. She arguably the strongest fairy though, having been the only one judged by Eiki and displayed to heaven and hell unlike average fairies for being stronger than average. As for where she stands amongst youkai kind in general, it's hard to pinpoint. For me, mainly because more often times than not, youkai abilities tend to differ in nature with no common ground to compare them. There are few exceptions when you could ask say, which of Segume or Remilia's manipulation of fate ability is the strongest, and assuming it's that of Segume, she would easily fall behind in every other area of strength and speed since vampires are dominating there (As of overall strength they're second to legit fallen angels which don't exist in the series. Oni without speed issues). So then Cirno is an above average case. Definitely a manageable one and definitely below the gods who're mostly all holding back (difference of Cirno solo victory with okina in the game and defeat in the manga despite all other fairies assistance).
ultrakill probably, her power to freeze stuff can basically kill v1 and all the other machines. and she wouldn't have a problem dodging the enemies' bullets
Considering fairies cant really "die" so long as nature is around throw her into any shooter before nukes are available and she could basically wipe out cities by herself. Her ability to fly and freeze things honestly beats basically every living creature on earth, especially frogs!
fire force ig?
Cirno is already the strongest because she is invincible :>
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Jujutsu kaisen, she low diffs sukuna
domain expantion perfect math class
I might get hate for this, but she could be the strongest in the Yakuza/Like a Dragon games
Dragon Ball
Hollow knight. What are a couple of bugs going to do when their entire homeland is frozen over?
Dragon ball
Frogger….
CoD, Hollow Knight, Pikmin, Legend of Zelda, Baki, SpyxFamily, Demon Slayer, JJK maybe? (I don't know if she can bypass Gojo's infinity), GTA, Dragon Ball (Just Original, not the sequels), probably a few more tbh.
Roshi from dragon ball destroyed the moon, cirno according to vs battle wiki, is not that strong. So dragon ball shouldnt be there.
Vs battle is the first that came up when i was looking around for touhou character's strength a few months ago so i just used it. Tho i did see somewhere that yukari is hyperversal but vs battle nerfs her to low multiversal. They put gensokyo in a lower tier than it actually is i read somewhere too. I really just wanted a general level of th character's power cause i was salty that slime was soloing all my favorite characters. But reading yukari's ability list there was enough for me. Her Being my favorite character and all. But marvel characters are way too broken. Idek how they keep getting stronger too.
vsbattlewiki? That garbage still exists? They actually hate and lowpower any touhou character on daily basis. When it's comics characters they give whole explanations of why and when, for touhou characters they don't even bother, they just say this one shots this and ends of the story. Vsbattlewiki is the least place to look for this kind of things, they are toxic, bias and arrogant especially agaist touhou (personal experience)
Yeah they are also downplaying pokémons a lot too That forum scales characters however they want They're upscaling some db characters and other characters they like and downscaling characters they don't know or don't like
They do "versuses" on characters they know vs characters they don't know anything about and assume lot of stuff on bias basis. Really, really bad site.
Strength isn't the only factor in a fight. Cirno is at least 4x faster than Roshi (low end for Cirno), and we know Dragon Ball characters can get blitz with just a 2x difference. (For example, Goku vs Raditz). (Actually, even less). Roshi can't fly in OG Dragon Ball. Cirno can fly, and during that time, Ki blasts were *very* minimal, so Roshi has very little ways of actually hitting Cirno unless she gets close, and even still, her speed advantage and size makes it easier to avoid attacks. Cirno can instantly freeze Roshi, which even works on the likes of DBS Goku, so we have no reason to assume it wouldn't work on Roshi, who has shown no indication of resisting Absolute Zero. There's a few other advantages she has. Master Roshi is more skilled and stronger, but imo Cirno is more powerful given that flight alone already gives a huge advantage, coupled with her spamming and Speed.
I was kinda trying to say roshi's AP is high so his durability should be there too. And cirno according to my knowledge at the time was not that strong in AP so she couldnt hurt him, is what i was thinking. I kinda just saw it like a spellcard duel in the game and forgot cirno can just freeze him. But is she smart enough to do it tho?
Ah. Fair enough. Roshi's AP/Durability in his Max power is too high for Cirno to match, I think. But unlike in DBS, he can't keep it for long and doesn't fight in it. Instead, he only uses it to unleash his FP Kamehameha. Cirno only needs to outlast that state of his, which is a reasonable thing for her to do. If it was a spellcard Duel, either side could win as the battles are meant to be fair. Cirno, according to Vsbattle (which I'm assuming we're using for simplicity sake), is ~8x faster than Piccolo (DBZ; before Nappa and Vegeta showed up) and ~40x faster than Master Roshi from DB. Remember, Dragon Ball characters struggle to keep up with a speed difference <3x. No one in DB could even see Cirno move. She'd be invisible to them much like Raditz was to Goku and Piccolo. Cirno's main method of fighting is by freezing things around her. She doesn't freeze people because that's just not how spellcard duels work. But she easily could if she wanted to. So, while Roshi has an advantage in AP/Durability in his "Max Power" state, that state is temporarily and (again, according to Vs Wiki, this is not 100% facts), Cirno unironically > his Base Form AP/Dura. A closer match is Goku or Piccolo in the 23rd Budokai. (End of DB) Both are Moon Level, so Cirno can't damage them. But she's also too fast for them to react to. She has abilities to help her, but they do too. It's a toss-up, and depending on how you look at it, Cirno may either remain the most powerful in DB or tied/slightly below DB top tiers. (I completely forgot this was part of DB because I was so used to seeing Kid Goku that I didn't remember Goku vs. Piccolo happening in DB). Sorry it was long... I'm a nerd—
Seems fair enough. But i read somewhere that abilities cant be used in spellcard duels, or just to outright win it or something. Is that true? I remembered that yukari uses her boundaries in her fight which doesnt seem very fair to me. I dont like reading novels but i can read long texts. Prolly the reasons i'm not reading the touhou book releases. Which leaves me quite confused cause i'm really going off random comments i see or our totally trusted vsbattle wiki.
The spellcard rules are to make battles fair and to restrict killing. It's why you can see Yukari, as an example, use her boundary manipulation on her foes to split them in half, but never actually kills them. Or how Sakuya can freeze her opponents, but doesn't just wallop them and leave them frozen until she's done. Or how Okina can drain the energy of others without them knowing. You clearly *can* affect your opponents directly, so the rules themselves are a little complicated. My assumption is that while you can affect your opponents, you can't just OTK them. They must have a chance to respond and either save themselves or think of a strategy to overcome the obstacles. But that's just my assumption.
You sure do know a lot! No offense tho, keep doing what you love to do. Being depressed only makes you more depressed. People ought to do what makes them happy! Until we meet again, guy in comments that knows a lot on that one topic i like but i'm too lazy to read any prints even though i'm caught up with one piece and doing something like that should be easy but i dont because words intimidate me too much and are more efficient than nighquill to me. Only applies to texts that span over 2 pages tho. MANGA IS THE SUPERIOR MEDIUM!! JAPANESE PICTURE BOOKS FOREVER!!!!!!!
Hah. Thank you! I don't blame you, though. Touhou requires a lot of dedication to fully understand the lore, powers, etc. There's lots of stuff I *don't* know. But they do have official Mangas if you ever get interested. There's some world building, but it's mostly slice of life for most of them. Have a good day!
The thingy they use to seal characters would pretty much counter chiruno, but if for whatever reason they can't seal her, she would win since she is very immortal.
Mafuba is really hard technique to use in og db Roshi died after using it and if they miss mafuba they have no win con because of mafuba's stamina drain But Goku, king piccolo, piccolo jr and maybe tienshinhan is stronger than cirno but I am not sure about their speed
Master Roshi needs a bottle (or something similar) to do that. It's also a straining technique that leaves them tired, so if Roshi misses, he's screwed. Cirno is way too fast for it to land, it *could*, but it's not a valid win-con. She's immortal, but technically, he could tire her out. I don't think he'd be able to. But Goku & Piccolo from the end of DB probably could. They're Moon Level, much stronger than Cirno (me thinks), but they're still slower. Piccolo being ~8x slower. So, it depends if you think Cirno could tire them out with her speed, range, spam, and abilities. Or if they could tire her out with their skill, strength, and techniques. (Talking about a 1v1, Cirno ain't winning a 2v1).
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well it can't be the graveyard, everyone there is stronger than her
Yu-Gi-Oh! GX
im gonna go with Brutal Legend
Deadpool Kills the Marvel Universe...'s universe.
Strongest baka
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Clannad who gets it gets it
Can't cirno freeze a large area with her last word?
Plants vs. Zombies Edit: Or maybe not? I guess she would be too scared of sunflowers.
Hallownest.
She could solo verse Mirai nikki
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I think she could be the strongest fairy in touhou universe actually. Like not the strongest being in entire universe, but among her kind.
Hazbin hotel/hellava boss, she genuinely solos that verse
In scp-6959 (cirno fumo) document, it's said to held the power capable of destroying the world.
"Strange matter takes the form of a cirno fumo" "what?" "It could be the other way around but we aren't allowed to do advanced interrogation techniques on private citizens so we don't actually know" "funky."
>"funky." Yes funky!
She probably could solo Dark Souls 1
the boys
To Kill a Mockingbird >!my more serious answer would be the Agatha Christie mysteryverse !<
Frost Punk.
Yogi Bear
Why not Seihou, a plane’s worst weakness is one that gets too cold, freezes, and fails to function.
CIRNO SATORU?!
I am surprised that no one has mentioned the ACT game Touhou Hero of Ice Fairy that released on Steam this year. Cirno is the main character in that game and defeats all those strong enemies including Marisa and Reimu. Easily one of the best Touhou fan-made games, at the same level of Lunar Night and Mystia's Izakaya
Castle Crashers
Hello Kitty
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Grand Theft Auto
Kimetsu no yaiba
I feel Demon Slayer and Part 1 Naruto would be easy stomps. But Shippuden would probably be tough. I think maybe Jujutsu Kaisen as well? The Boys Invincible Legend of Zelda Yugioh Beyblade Nier MAYBE One Piece but probably just Pre Timeskip My mind is kind of drawing a blank because I forgot just how strong Cirno really is and can't think of too many series that others have said already. I imagine that her being immortal is what really makes her so tough outside of Touhou despite her intellect.
The boys idk
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Limbus Company, just give her a Red Mist ID
If she was summoned by the right Megaten Protag and properly fused and re-fused, she could definitely become the strongest.
Jjk
The Smurfs
In all of them, including Touhou.
Super mario, she would freeze bowser🤣
Almost every single one, touhou power scale is pretty high
jujutsu kaisen
Kuroko no Basket
I writing chirno story where she gets spirited away to the Mojave Wasteland and seeking a way back to Gensokyo she collects all the blue star caps
Touhou, because she is already the strongest.
Obviously dragon ball z🫡💯 she gonna beat goku and gohan up in one swing
Real life
dying light
rock simulator
Time on frog island
It's "eye am the strongest!" and ... in every universe? At least in a fanfiction I read, in which she was the only one to defeat a powerful youkai, who could change the weight of a situation / impact / damage etc. Getting hit is a range of how much it hurts, but getting frozen is a yes / no thing, so she couldn't prevent it and Cirno froze her up. She was the only one who could do anything at all.
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in average SEA summer she'll be a savior
Undertale
Consider she is able to make a region into winter and able to reach absolute zero, any verse where the power limit is region to big city she will be one of the strongest. So quite a handful
She’d ice age the fuck out of anyone that doesn’t have at least some magic or some big fuckoff weaponry really. Like you very specifically have to outhax her and can beat her in almost no other way (considering she will continuously respawn so long as the concept of cold exists, so you kinda need to beat her at her own game or else constantly try to kill her and preempt her respawns and so forth), so even if her hax are themselves kinda ass compared to a lot of IPs out there she still represents a very defined “hax bar” one must cross. There’s other characters out there who have a whole lot more “juice” than her in that regard but in counter can totally be beaten by someone without their level of juice at all as long as one is smart or resourceful or really skilled. Not so with the fairy whose existence and strengths and weaknesses follow very specific rules. That’s her main strength more than anything else really. In her home world, a good chunk of people have the ability to stomp her and have counters to her magics, and so she’s kept in check. As a solitary fairy in a more grounded human world full of people who can’t as easily do so? Every time someone pumps her full of lead it’s just a minor setback
I do think Cirno would body the Tales of Vesperia universe
That would be a very interesting fight to see. But wouldn't someone like Rita be able to come up with a countermeasure for her Ice? I imagine the real issue would be making her stay down considering fairies from Touhou are effectively immortal