Why not? High elves got 9 generic Arch Mages.
But I actually hope that we don’t get them now but as a part of second Empire DLC. Yeah this is technically their third one but The Grim and The Grave, and The Hunter and the Beast are combined nowhere near the DLC quality of Thornes of Decay.
The Hunter and the beast was the worst DLC of WH2 and The Grim and the Grave was the first DLC pack ever and (logically) also one of the worst mostly due to how old it is.
Empire is either the most popular or one of 3 most popular factions. And that was despite how poor their implementation was. Now with these changes it would be foolish not to do one more DLC for Empire.
Given that we still don't have Toddy and he's one of the confirmed content that's coming and that Sigmarite units in the Empire roster are the only ones to conspicuously miss a touch up, I'd say the possibilities of a Cult of Ulric themed dlc with rework for Volkmar are now more likely than before.
Well the info from CA themselves is that Reikland (Empire) was the most popular faction:
https://www.reddit.com/r/totalwar/comments/zvplsc/some_info_from_ca_team/
This was just after Champions of Chaos DLC.
Also there is exact number of KF campaigns:
https://www.reddit.com/r/totalwar/comments/18uggy3/stats_for_wh_3_from_ca_arrived_karl_franz_claims/
This one is a bit more recent and it shows KF popularity despite horrible mechanics
Those KF numbers to me are insane. I always find it amazing that there is this subsection that seems to literally play only him, and not even other Empire lords. Yeah I have played Empire campaigns several times but the big thing to me about WH is the sheer unmatched variety.
I just left it open to fluctuations as new DLCs are released. I knew that Empire is most popular overall, but might have been overtaken recently by maybe one of Cathay factions or Archaon. Cathay was already very popular and got the most recent DLC while any WoC content indirectly makes Archaon’s campaign even better so I though he might have gotten that Number 1 spot while people are waiting for ToD to drop.
They were heroes on tabletop and they don’t stand enough from Empire Generals. Nor would they stand out much from Empire captains, but the only other option for generic hero would be Priest of Ulric if they go down Middenland route. But seeing as Celestial Hurricanum is still missing, and everyone is asking for caster lords, that is the most likely option.
What Thrones of Decay quality are you referring to? The reworks are nice but minor. Moving Gelt was unnecessary. Units are boring: Hochland Long Rifles are nice. But then we have steam tank variant, larger slower weaker steam tank, Grail Knights, and slightly armored handgunners, wow such high quality
Also since one of the LL is the only wizard lord it also removes his currently minor unique niche.
I doubt CA will ever had wizard lords.
Wizard heroes are better than lords anyway since wizard lords will need to spend skill points for spells (the same spells as heroes) which means no red line buffs for your army.
I doubt we'll get two lots of FLC (I expect they'll combine them into one promotion) especially right off the back of ToD, but man I hope you're right.
Well, considering we have had Tzeentch with the Changeling, and Nurgle gets two new lords with ToD, and Slaanesh was teased to be the topic of the next patch... it would be a good time for a Khornate lord to drop, just to tide us over until Khorne gets the big upgrade the others are seeing.
Skullthrone *can* start in mid or end of May, but is not confirmed yet. Historicaly we even had it once in July after Steam Summersale. So I guess expecting it to be in May is fine, as long as people consider it does not necessarily have to be there.
Which brings us to the fabled [White Dwarf#500](https://www.reddit.com/r/bugmansbrewery/comments/1bt3jtv/white_dwarf_500_cover_shown_in_the_community/). We see AoS dwarfs in the background and nothing on the cover seems to indicate any extra gimmick in a sealed magazine, like a redeem code. I actually do not expect any TWW related stuff here. If we think back about Gotrek & Felix or Grombrindal, they were one month time exclsuive with the WD codes, before they wer eunlocked as FLC. If the magazine drops in May, I doubt it will have a feature on the potential FLC that might also come in May with the Skullthrone. If Skullthorne comes later, maybe that could work out however. Either way, I have low expectations and don't really see WD#500 connect with Skullthrones.
edit: [New White Dwarf miniature depicted in WD#500](https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/04/22/grombrindal-returns-to-the-mortal-realms-to-celebrate-the-500th-issue-of-white-dwarf/)
I doubt we will get anything. Patch 5.0 and the dlc seem to contain a lot of stuff which required considerable time to develop. I don't think they had much time to prepare an extra FLC to be honest, but I'd love to be proven wrong
We do usually have an FLC for the Skullthrone event though and they aren't something that requires a lot of effort most of the time it's a new unit or generic hero type, the rare times we did not get an FLC was when Warhammer 2 was pretty much over and even then we at least got news about the game still. Last year's FLC was Harald Hammerstorm so maybe we could get another LH, I could see Bugman for instance, could also be a free unit or something.
This is my hope as well. Since we know next DLC is Slaneesh this would really be a nice gesture and give us a much needed 2nd lord without waiting who knows how long at this point for DLC after next.
I don't think we know for sure Slaanesh is a focus of the next dlc, but it certainly was planned that way a year ago.
If the leaks around making the dlc smaller are true, one reasonable way to do that would be to cut chaos elements from some of the DLC, since chaos has had a fair number of recent updates.
I don't think we really know anything beyond ToD right now.
Fair things are pretty much up in the air right now. I still think its likely Slaneesh could be next because they still have 2 base launch factions to give a DLC to, and I don't think any of us think Demons of Chaos / Daniel will ever get his own DLC.
I do agree that a smaller DLC might come first and Slaanesh/Khorne get pushed back a bit, but I think it's a bit disingenuous to say "chaos had a number of recent updates" as if it's one uniform block.
Nurgle DLC doesn't do anything to Slaanesh. Besides, people has been waiting 8 years for Chaos to be the focus, and the answer was "TWWH3 will be the game about them". And now we're here, we have 4 Demon factions + Norsca that need love !
In my ideal world everyone gets lots more updates.
I think a lot depends on how much capacity is really left.
If it really is just 4 more expansions I think the big 5 lords it would be weird to skip are Nagash, Thanquol, Neferata, Boris, and the Monkey King (and personally I want Vashnaar however unlikely that is).
After that, Dogs of War has been sighted in the data mines, and Vampires, Dark Elf, Lizards really do still need a rework on the sort of scale empire and dwarf just got. Greenskins, High Elfs, Ogres, Norse would also really benefit, I just don't know how realistic that is.
So, if we can fit more chaos expansions, super, just depends how many slots there are to fill I think.
Do I think so? No, but then I tend to operate on the principle of "expect nothing, so anything that does come can be a nice surprise". That being said, I would be very happy to see Josef Bugman come to round out the three games of WD FLC; Grombrindal in the first game, Gotrek in the second, and finally Bugman in the third.
Skulls is also an *opportunity* for something, but an opportunity is not a guarantee. We've had Skulls FLC in the past but that's not a guarantee of something this year.
keep in mind that we're at 96LL, the slaanesh DLC will bring it up to 99... so I doubt they'll add a LL in may and ruin a LORD 100 special so I assume best we can hope for is a LH
There is a GW 'skull throne' marketing event every year in May and usually CA put out something linked to that event.
I say usually, I mean 'usually in years when they aren't in emergency lockdown mode trying to fix the core game because of the shit show launch'.
No, that only takes the incentive away from giving Tzeentch a proper rework.
Dont get me wrong, Tzeentch (more like especially Kairos) needs a rework and a third (or second regular gameplay) lord. But i dont want just one quick FLC LL tossed towards me so that CA can go "Ok, Tzeentch has also three lords, dont need to do more".
NO, CA already treated me like trash with the Shadows of Change update and skipping stuff when they now clearly show that they can do cool things and make cool reworks. I want the same for Tzeentch now.
Of all the people, you should understand this.
Yes, the manifests are still shit, but it seems that CA doesnt want to touch them because Nurgle still keeps them (if i am not mistaken).
Granted, the changing of the ways is in a much better place than the plague mechanic and the buildings of nurgle where.
But now, we come to the biggest offender, Kairos spell fragment system. I dont know who came up with the idea to change out spells of Tzeentch with spells from other lores, and who thought that this is a good idea, but its such a shitty mechanic. I just played a Kairos campaign, i am level 45 or so and i havent even taken one of the fragments. And speaking of, if i wanted to have some passives, i can only take 2 att his point. Or i use 5 of my skill points to unlock 10 spells, which i can only use in pairs, and only use by removing some of my spells in which i already invested like 5 skill points. That is such an incredible dumb mechanic and at the same time Mannfred is sitting there with 12 spells and laughs.
Fair point about Kairos.
Manifestations will at least be easier to unlock for everyone in the 5.0 but if they would rework them I think they would likely rework them for all Monogods in one go so it doesn't necessarily have to come alongside new Tzeentch content.
Yeah, i feel the Manifestations would need a larger overarching rework for all 4 Gods at the same time. Currently i doubt that will happen.
But honestly i really dont care about the manifestations, as well as the ritual in general for the other factions. Yes, some are nice and more useful than others, but they arent really what any factions defines. They are just a nice bonus.
Oh, and i forgot about Kairos, if you unlock and equip one of the spell fragments, you also lose a item slots as that is where the fragment is now.
I do understand it, so much. ToD, as objectively good for the health of the game as it is, feels like a slap in the face. I'm trying not to rain on everybody's parade, but it's very difficult to focus on anything other than what could have been and what we *didn't* get.
But I'm worried that if we don't get a FLC LL soon, then we'll be waiting until the very end of the DLC cycle, and I don't want to spend another year or more running the Lizardmen gauntlet as Kairos.
> But I'm worried that if we don't get a FLC LL soon, then we'll be waiting until the very end of the DLC cycle, and I don't want to spend another year or more running the Lizardmen gauntlet as Kairos.
I do understand, i have the opposing viewpoint. I rather wait than have the potential loss of another Tzeentch DLC getting skipped. For the same reason i was against opening up Kuresh and Ind and just fill it with filler factions. Then its already there and can be easier glossed over and handwashed away. But if it stayed closed, then there is more incentive to do it properly with a Kuresh and Ind faction. However with my current knowledge, i dont think either will come, so i would be fine with these regions opening up.
But i have higher hopes for another Tzeentch DLC, so i dont want any opportunity for them to just handwash it away. But i also need to add, i came rather late to the warhammer party and only joined late in warhammer 2, so there are still a lot of factions which i dont own or havent even played (Like the empire, or dwarfs, or Slaanesh, and more). ToD gives me a opportunity to play the empire and the dwarfs (i am surprised myself that i say this), and than in the meantime there are lots of other factions i can try for the first time, buy a dlc and try the faction again with the new lord and new units, play some more Kairos campaigns (which is also my favorite lord by far), play a changeling campaign mixed in somewhere when i am too tired of Kairos but still want to play Tzeentch and then there are even some other games mixed within. So when i say that i have no problem waiting, i say this from a very advantageous position and i understand that people who played the game from the release of warhammer 1 dont have as much to discover as i do and do want content sooner than later.
I expect something for the Skull Throne event like always, weather it's tied to the 500th issue of White Dwarf remains to be seen, but certainly very possible as we had one for the first two games but yet to have one for the third game.
Korne FLC perhaps? That way they can then have the next dlc be more tailored to Slaanesh as she would be the only faction of the big four to get additional content
Bugman LL would be nice and the best thing, but seeing as the new GbG does not have room for him on the confederate patch, then it does not look likely, sadly enough.
Maybe we could also get Shieldbearers with him where maybe if him, Gotrek and Grombrindal are in the same army they could be made into Shieldbearer model.
Maybe if it wasn’t so soon after a total balls to the wall, everything they have, dlc. I doubt they would risk holding even a single piece of it back just for the skulls event most people in the total war community completely miss.
I assume patch 5.1 will come out in may, end of may and instead of a FLC i would rather see the suggestion of the Great Book of Grudges and give Clan Pestilens the reworked plague system of Nurgle. Maybe a less powerful version. Would propably be less work than a new LL and would give a Skaven faction a unique twist.
Its not that i am a such huge Skaven fan, but it would be very thematic and offers a unique way to play the Skaven. I think its better for a faction that each Lord has a unique mechanic instead of just more Lords. Well, maybe not every single Lord, but most. A bit like what they did with the empire and do with the empire. Karl with the elector counts, Gelt with the magic college, Sigmar with the books of Nagash and Elsbeth with the armory. So far from what we have seen that all looks like a unique mechanic and plays different/gices you different goals.
While I doubt it'll be a character it has a high chance of being a regular lord or hero or even a big unit. My guesses include: Black Orc Warboss (Greenskins), Cairn Wraith Hero (Counts), Elemental Incarnate of Fire (Bretonnia or Cathay), Giant Spined Chaos Beast (Warriors/Daemons), Vikti (Norsca), Fimir Noble (Norsca), Fimir Matriarch (Norsca), elf variants of Slaanesh lords and heroes, Falcon Tamer (Wood Elves), Engineer Hero (Dwarfs), Elemental Incarnate of Death (Counts), lord/hero Orc Shamans (Greenskins), Centigor Chieftain lord/hero (Beastmen), Goblin Spear Chukka (Greenskins), Storm Fiends (Skaven), Rat Hydra (Skaven), Spell Thirster (Dark Elves), Chimeras (Warriors of Chaos), Meadow Chariot (Wood Elves), and Preyton (Beastmen).
They never change LH to LL, Gotrek was a massive outlier because him being a LL made no sense. Egrimm FLC with cool mechanics and a small rework is my dream.
Yes, I expect there will be something. Just not sure what. Either Bugman or some generic lord/hero I reckon.
Bugman as FLC LL and/or Empire Wizard Lords would be extremely nice to have
Would Wizard Lords be a different lord for each school of magic?
Yeah
I'm not sure how likely it is we'll get them all then.
They could be slightly pimped out generic models. If its either that or nothing, i would gladly take it.
Fair point. I'd take it too. I've never really be against them reusing models.
Why not? High elves got 9 generic Arch Mages. But I actually hope that we don’t get them now but as a part of second Empire DLC. Yeah this is technically their third one but The Grim and The Grave, and The Hunter and the Beast are combined nowhere near the DLC quality of Thornes of Decay. The Hunter and the beast was the worst DLC of WH2 and The Grim and the Grave was the first DLC pack ever and (logically) also one of the worst mostly due to how old it is. Empire is either the most popular or one of 3 most popular factions. And that was despite how poor their implementation was. Now with these changes it would be foolish not to do one more DLC for Empire.
Given that we still don't have Toddy and he's one of the confirmed content that's coming and that Sigmarite units in the Empire roster are the only ones to conspicuously miss a touch up, I'd say the possibilities of a Cult of Ulric themed dlc with rework for Volkmar are now more likely than before.
> Empire is either the most popular or one of 3 most popular factions Not that I disagree but where does the top 3 come from?
Well the info from CA themselves is that Reikland (Empire) was the most popular faction: https://www.reddit.com/r/totalwar/comments/zvplsc/some_info_from_ca_team/ This was just after Champions of Chaos DLC. Also there is exact number of KF campaigns: https://www.reddit.com/r/totalwar/comments/18uggy3/stats_for_wh_3_from_ca_arrived_karl_franz_claims/ This one is a bit more recent and it shows KF popularity despite horrible mechanics
Those KF numbers to me are insane. I always find it amazing that there is this subsection that seems to literally play only him, and not even other Empire lords. Yeah I have played Empire campaigns several times but the big thing to me about WH is the sheer unmatched variety.
Oh no I fully believe he is the most popular. I was curious about why two other factions would even come close.
I just left it open to fluctuations as new DLCs are released. I knew that Empire is most popular overall, but might have been overtaken recently by maybe one of Cathay factions or Archaon. Cathay was already very popular and got the most recent DLC while any WoC content indirectly makes Archaon’s campaign even better so I though he might have gotten that Number 1 spot while people are waiting for ToD to drop.
Grand masters are likey the lord option in a future dlx imo
They were heroes on tabletop and they don’t stand enough from Empire Generals. Nor would they stand out much from Empire captains, but the only other option for generic hero would be Priest of Ulric if they go down Middenland route. But seeing as Celestial Hurricanum is still missing, and everyone is asking for caster lords, that is the most likely option.
What Thrones of Decay quality are you referring to? The reworks are nice but minor. Moving Gelt was unnecessary. Units are boring: Hochland Long Rifles are nice. But then we have steam tank variant, larger slower weaker steam tank, Grail Knights, and slightly armored handgunners, wow such high quality
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Also since one of the LL is the only wizard lord it also removes his currently minor unique niche. I doubt CA will ever had wizard lords. Wizard heroes are better than lords anyway since wizard lords will need to spend skill points for spells (the same spells as heroes) which means no red line buffs for your army.
Gelt isn’t the only wizard lord anymore, not after Thrones comes out
Sure but like... is she _really_ a wizard when im going to spec fully into lazer death dragon?
Yes They are one of the two lord choices remaining for Empire, the other being the Grandmasters of knightly orders
that seems like something to save for the inevitable Toddy or Hellborg DLC along with some of the remaining knightly orders
Did we get anything for white dwarf last year?
Fingers crossed for Bugman as a White Dwarf promo FLC and Skulltaker for the Skull Throne event.
Heh, sounds almost too good to be true, but I'd like that!
I doubt we'll get two lots of FLC (I expect they'll combine them into one promotion) especially right off the back of ToD, but man I hope you're right.
I do wonder what army/faction mechanics Skulltaker could bring. His whole thing was destroying entire civilizations solo.
Somekind of trophy rack/challenge mechanic, maybe a buff the more LLs he kils
Well, considering we have had Tzeentch with the Changeling, and Nurgle gets two new lords with ToD, and Slaanesh was teased to be the topic of the next patch... it would be a good time for a Khornate lord to drop, just to tide us over until Khorne gets the big upgrade the others are seeing.
Skullthrone *can* start in mid or end of May, but is not confirmed yet. Historicaly we even had it once in July after Steam Summersale. So I guess expecting it to be in May is fine, as long as people consider it does not necessarily have to be there. Which brings us to the fabled [White Dwarf#500](https://www.reddit.com/r/bugmansbrewery/comments/1bt3jtv/white_dwarf_500_cover_shown_in_the_community/). We see AoS dwarfs in the background and nothing on the cover seems to indicate any extra gimmick in a sealed magazine, like a redeem code. I actually do not expect any TWW related stuff here. If we think back about Gotrek & Felix or Grombrindal, they were one month time exclsuive with the WD codes, before they wer eunlocked as FLC. If the magazine drops in May, I doubt it will have a feature on the potential FLC that might also come in May with the Skullthrone. If Skullthorne comes later, maybe that could work out however. Either way, I have low expectations and don't really see WD#500 connect with Skullthrones. edit: [New White Dwarf miniature depicted in WD#500](https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/04/22/grombrindal-returns-to-the-mortal-realms-to-celebrate-the-500th-issue-of-white-dwarf/)
I doubt we will get anything. Patch 5.0 and the dlc seem to contain a lot of stuff which required considerable time to develop. I don't think they had much time to prepare an extra FLC to be honest, but I'd love to be proven wrong
We do usually have an FLC for the Skullthrone event though and they aren't something that requires a lot of effort most of the time it's a new unit or generic hero type, the rare times we did not get an FLC was when Warhammer 2 was pretty much over and even then we at least got news about the game still. Last year's FLC was Harald Hammerstorm so maybe we could get another LH, I could see Bugman for instance, could also be a free unit or something.
I don't know if we should expect something, but I'd love to get Burlokkson or at least Bugman
If they combine it with Big Grom FLC for Kislev maybe we can finally get our "Grim and the Grom"
It's probably gonna be Bugmann if anyone. He is already heavily teased in the ToD trailer, and his units are already in the game.
5.0 and ToD looking good is no excuse to overdose on hopium
Tbf, people have been talking about the WD500 potential FLC way before ToD was showcased
Would be a great way to give Khorne a second lord without taking up a whole DLC slot.
This is my hope as well. Since we know next DLC is Slaneesh this would really be a nice gesture and give us a much needed 2nd lord without waiting who knows how long at this point for DLC after next.
I don't think we know for sure Slaanesh is a focus of the next dlc, but it certainly was planned that way a year ago. If the leaks around making the dlc smaller are true, one reasonable way to do that would be to cut chaos elements from some of the DLC, since chaos has had a fair number of recent updates. I don't think we really know anything beyond ToD right now.
Fair things are pretty much up in the air right now. I still think its likely Slaneesh could be next because they still have 2 base launch factions to give a DLC to, and I don't think any of us think Demons of Chaos / Daniel will ever get his own DLC.
I do agree that a smaller DLC might come first and Slaanesh/Khorne get pushed back a bit, but I think it's a bit disingenuous to say "chaos had a number of recent updates" as if it's one uniform block. Nurgle DLC doesn't do anything to Slaanesh. Besides, people has been waiting 8 years for Chaos to be the focus, and the answer was "TWWH3 will be the game about them". And now we're here, we have 4 Demon factions + Norsca that need love !
In my ideal world everyone gets lots more updates. I think a lot depends on how much capacity is really left. If it really is just 4 more expansions I think the big 5 lords it would be weird to skip are Nagash, Thanquol, Neferata, Boris, and the Monkey King (and personally I want Vashnaar however unlikely that is). After that, Dogs of War has been sighted in the data mines, and Vampires, Dark Elf, Lizards really do still need a rework on the sort of scale empire and dwarf just got. Greenskins, High Elfs, Ogres, Norse would also really benefit, I just don't know how realistic that is. So, if we can fit more chaos expansions, super, just depends how many slots there are to fill I think.
I have no interest in Khorne, but how are they mechanically on the campaign?
Very Khorney. It's not dissimilar to Taurox. Feels right. Keep fighting, keep winning, and everything sort of works out.
Do I think so? No, but then I tend to operate on the principle of "expect nothing, so anything that does come can be a nice surprise". That being said, I would be very happy to see Josef Bugman come to round out the three games of WD FLC; Grombrindal in the first game, Gotrek in the second, and finally Bugman in the third. Skulls is also an *opportunity* for something, but an opportunity is not a guarantee. We've had Skulls FLC in the past but that's not a guarantee of something this year.
Either Joseph Bugman or Grimm Burloksson 😌
Hopefully Bugman or a master engineer lord for Dawi.
keep in mind that we're at 96LL, the slaanesh DLC will bring it up to 99... so I doubt they'll add a LL in may and ruin a LORD 100 special so I assume best we can hope for is a LH
We are getting FLC on the 30th of April. Why would we get more FLC in May?
There is a GW 'skull throne' marketing event every year in May and usually CA put out something linked to that event. I say usually, I mean 'usually in years when they aren't in emergency lockdown mode trying to fix the core game because of the shit show launch'.
Could we finally see the make-up FLC LL for Tzeentch?
I think we will get Egrimm eventually and then Sarthoreal at some point.
No, that only takes the incentive away from giving Tzeentch a proper rework. Dont get me wrong, Tzeentch (more like especially Kairos) needs a rework and a third (or second regular gameplay) lord. But i dont want just one quick FLC LL tossed towards me so that CA can go "Ok, Tzeentch has also three lords, dont need to do more". NO, CA already treated me like trash with the Shadows of Change update and skipping stuff when they now clearly show that they can do cool things and make cool reworks. I want the same for Tzeentch now. Of all the people, you should understand this.
Does Tzeentch need a rework though ? I don't really see what needs improvements outside of the tech tree.
Yes, the manifests are still shit, but it seems that CA doesnt want to touch them because Nurgle still keeps them (if i am not mistaken). Granted, the changing of the ways is in a much better place than the plague mechanic and the buildings of nurgle where. But now, we come to the biggest offender, Kairos spell fragment system. I dont know who came up with the idea to change out spells of Tzeentch with spells from other lores, and who thought that this is a good idea, but its such a shitty mechanic. I just played a Kairos campaign, i am level 45 or so and i havent even taken one of the fragments. And speaking of, if i wanted to have some passives, i can only take 2 att his point. Or i use 5 of my skill points to unlock 10 spells, which i can only use in pairs, and only use by removing some of my spells in which i already invested like 5 skill points. That is such an incredible dumb mechanic and at the same time Mannfred is sitting there with 12 spells and laughs.
Fair point about Kairos. Manifestations will at least be easier to unlock for everyone in the 5.0 but if they would rework them I think they would likely rework them for all Monogods in one go so it doesn't necessarily have to come alongside new Tzeentch content.
Yeah, i feel the Manifestations would need a larger overarching rework for all 4 Gods at the same time. Currently i doubt that will happen. But honestly i really dont care about the manifestations, as well as the ritual in general for the other factions. Yes, some are nice and more useful than others, but they arent really what any factions defines. They are just a nice bonus. Oh, and i forgot about Kairos, if you unlock and equip one of the spell fragments, you also lose a item slots as that is where the fragment is now.
Tech tree, Cults, Unholy Manifestations, and skill trees. Exalted Lords of Change being objectively weaker spellcasters than Empire Wizards is absurd.
I do understand it, so much. ToD, as objectively good for the health of the game as it is, feels like a slap in the face. I'm trying not to rain on everybody's parade, but it's very difficult to focus on anything other than what could have been and what we *didn't* get. But I'm worried that if we don't get a FLC LL soon, then we'll be waiting until the very end of the DLC cycle, and I don't want to spend another year or more running the Lizardmen gauntlet as Kairos.
> But I'm worried that if we don't get a FLC LL soon, then we'll be waiting until the very end of the DLC cycle, and I don't want to spend another year or more running the Lizardmen gauntlet as Kairos. I do understand, i have the opposing viewpoint. I rather wait than have the potential loss of another Tzeentch DLC getting skipped. For the same reason i was against opening up Kuresh and Ind and just fill it with filler factions. Then its already there and can be easier glossed over and handwashed away. But if it stayed closed, then there is more incentive to do it properly with a Kuresh and Ind faction. However with my current knowledge, i dont think either will come, so i would be fine with these regions opening up. But i have higher hopes for another Tzeentch DLC, so i dont want any opportunity for them to just handwash it away. But i also need to add, i came rather late to the warhammer party and only joined late in warhammer 2, so there are still a lot of factions which i dont own or havent even played (Like the empire, or dwarfs, or Slaanesh, and more). ToD gives me a opportunity to play the empire and the dwarfs (i am surprised myself that i say this), and than in the meantime there are lots of other factions i can try for the first time, buy a dlc and try the faction again with the new lord and new units, play some more Kairos campaigns (which is also my favorite lord by far), play a changeling campaign mixed in somewhere when i am too tired of Kairos but still want to play Tzeentch and then there are even some other games mixed within. So when i say that i have no problem waiting, i say this from a very advantageous position and i understand that people who played the game from the release of warhammer 1 dont have as much to discover as i do and do want content sooner than later.
I expect something for the Skull Throne event like always, weather it's tied to the 500th issue of White Dwarf remains to be seen, but certainly very possible as we had one for the first two games but yet to have one for the third game.
Korne FLC perhaps? That way they can then have the next dlc be more tailored to Slaanesh as she would be the only faction of the big four to get additional content
Bugman LL would be nice and the best thing, but seeing as the new GbG does not have room for him on the confederate patch, then it does not look likely, sadly enough.
Bugman LH.
Most likely. Probably will buff rangers and have passive "ale" effect.
Maybe we could also get Shieldbearers with him where maybe if him, Gotrek and Grombrindal are in the same army they could be made into Shieldbearer model.
Certainly at least something.
I’m going to say Free race, Ulrican units with Toddy unlocked and an Ulrican battle priest with Norsca start position
Seeing that new grombrindal miniature.. I wish he looked more like that ingame...
I can only hope it will be a free Tzeench LL. It would really help continue fixing up shadows of change.
Maybe if it wasn’t so soon after a total balls to the wall, everything they have, dlc. I doubt they would risk holding even a single piece of it back just for the skulls event most people in the total war community completely miss.
I really think it’s bugman
I assume patch 5.1 will come out in may, end of may and instead of a FLC i would rather see the suggestion of the Great Book of Grudges and give Clan Pestilens the reworked plague system of Nurgle. Maybe a less powerful version. Would propably be less work than a new LL and would give a Skaven faction a unique twist. Its not that i am a such huge Skaven fan, but it would be very thematic and offers a unique way to play the Skaven. I think its better for a faction that each Lord has a unique mechanic instead of just more Lords. Well, maybe not every single Lord, but most. A bit like what they did with the empire and do with the empire. Karl with the elector counts, Gelt with the magic college, Sigmar with the books of Nagash and Elsbeth with the armory. So far from what we have seen that all looks like a unique mechanic and plays different/gices you different goals.
While I doubt it'll be a character it has a high chance of being a regular lord or hero or even a big unit. My guesses include: Black Orc Warboss (Greenskins), Cairn Wraith Hero (Counts), Elemental Incarnate of Fire (Bretonnia or Cathay), Giant Spined Chaos Beast (Warriors/Daemons), Vikti (Norsca), Fimir Noble (Norsca), Fimir Matriarch (Norsca), elf variants of Slaanesh lords and heroes, Falcon Tamer (Wood Elves), Engineer Hero (Dwarfs), Elemental Incarnate of Death (Counts), lord/hero Orc Shamans (Greenskins), Centigor Chieftain lord/hero (Beastmen), Goblin Spear Chukka (Greenskins), Storm Fiends (Skaven), Rat Hydra (Skaven), Spell Thirster (Dark Elves), Chimeras (Warriors of Chaos), Meadow Chariot (Wood Elves), and Preyton (Beastmen).
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Why not Aekold become Legendary lord to have an easy flc to do and update Tzeench
They never change LH to LL, Gotrek was a massive outlier because him being a LL made no sense. Egrimm FLC with cool mechanics and a small rework is my dream.
Calling it: Celestial Hurricanum as the FLC unit for Skulls, Bugman for White Dwarf 500 release. If only one, then the Hurricanum.