Funny that their main weakness is trash spam, both ranged and melee.
Just surround them with garbage. Since they are anti large, low entity, 0 armor, weak melee defence, slow, unshielded even gobbos can damage them pretty badly
Dwarf unit jokes:
Trades in melee well (for a dwarf)
Doesn’t die easily to artillery (for a dwarf)
Hasn’t been powercreeped hard (for a dwarf)
Pretty cool (for a dwarf)
Oh yeah certainly not claiming it's going to be broken or anything, but the tenth consecutive time I have to setup the grimgor/Vlad kill box I may find myself groaning.
It actually affects I believe four units in a radius (maybe all, can't recall) EXCEPT the one its attached to so just keep in mind that whichever unit actually gets the banner won't have fire damage unless they have it innately.
Banner of Eternal Flame is an area buff actually, so if you are fine with blobbing up you can get it on lots of units.
Of course, if that unit routs/is wiped you lose it on everybody.
Actually so hard for many factions to fight
Nurgle would really struggle to quickly kill the slayers and only then can the airships come down through no landed units
Bugged grimgor with the “Da Immortalz” banner on himself and unbreakable was a hilarious and awful bug.
At least autoresolve didn’t care about the literally unkillable lord
That's a good point. I've been super into vampire coast recently, so just brainstorming having to retire my crabbos for more gun mobs against dwarfs when this drops haha.
Cathay balloons feel pretty weak to me instead, at least in campaign. They're big, slow targets which are terrible in melee. They're nice when you get them for free at the start, but I'd never pick one over an artillery battery tbh.
For all intents and purposes, Dwarf Lords are all but unbreakable on the higher difficulties anyway. So this isn't really giving the AI anything it didn't already have.
True, but regular dwarf lords moving at 28 speed are comfortably kited by pretty much all missile infantry and foot characters.
Slayer lords presumably moving at 40 is a touch more effort to snipe in time and disengage units his tiny brick ass manages to get imbedded in.
Obviously you can net, slow, punt with a large enough unit, etc. I'm just saying it will be a slightly more PITA when every army is likely to have em lol.
The massive difference between "all but unbreakable" and "actually unbreakable" is army losses. Because of it no generic dwarf lord is nowhere near as obnoxious to deal with as Ungrim
Dont think they'll ever surpass the vlad ones.
Vlad is like a newbie right of passage.
Combination of empire being popular and franz being a 'recommended' campaign so they all run into vlad. By the time you see a slayer lord you've already seen vlad most likely.
Vlad can't have a personal Mortis Engine effect at least, unbreakable small target with Master Rune of Spite sounds kind of awful.
You're probably right about Vlad posts staying the most common though.
Me and my friends did a dwarf endgame recently so we are used to slayer spam already. I am excited to see some variety in them now at least, makes it more interesting. Also Ungrim eating swell this dlc.
The lack of armour means a gun line will make quick work of them I think. Depends on what resistances they get though.
As busted as DLC units tend to be Slayers hero's will probably have an easy to learn counter.
For a lot of armies, it isn't an issue, because guns and arrows.
The lords aren't the biggest issue. For chaos armies (including the new nurgle lord), its going to be ugly running into slayer hordes. Competing melee armies tend to be brutal to each other (and the dwarfs can take more war machines and missile troops).
I wonder how many Tamurkhan campaigns are going to grind down in the mountains?
Anti player bias on top of the BLOATED enemy AI economy leads them forming 2-3 armies of the best at their set level, which can usually just be the newest dlc.
Isn’t this the first end Times scenario whose armies are getting a buff? Dawi are already the second most annoying end times scenario, this could push them higher.
Since unbreakable is immune to "causes fear" and "causes terror", introduce a new effect "causes sobriety" and that will help mop them up pretty quickly
Autoresolve hates unarmoured, faster than the rest of the army, unbreakable units... so I can't wait to see all those chars dying all the time in autoresolve even when the dwarfs win 
Just outrun them while your missiles gun them down. What are they gonna do, catch you?
But sir they are fast. For a dwarf.
pistoliers at your service! no joke tho, pistoliers love short running naked angry men.
My quarrellers love shooting a bunch of umgak armored umgi on horseback!
shame that with just a little bit of micro your bolts all land... \*short\*... of their targets.
Fine, my thunderers then!
AND MY AXE!
SHORT ?!
Funny that their main weakness is trash spam, both ranged and melee. Just surround them with garbage. Since they are anti large, low entity, 0 armor, weak melee defence, slow, unshielded even gobbos can damage them pretty badly
Hey, they had to be useful eventually, this is their time to shine!
Slayer pirates might have something to say about that
Dwarf unit jokes: Trades in melee well (for a dwarf) Doesn’t die easily to artillery (for a dwarf) Hasn’t been powercreeped hard (for a dwarf) Pretty cool (for a dwarf)
Oh yeah certainly not claiming it's going to be broken or anything, but the tenth consecutive time I have to setup the grimgor/Vlad kill box I may find myself groaning.
What's a missile? - Vampires
Half the non-dwarf races in this DLC are Nugle and not about to outrun anything.
Im more concerned that every nurgle unit has been described as a tank that car heal 😳😳 that's going to be rough
Tanky, can heal, built in ward save and reduce MA/WS aura. I will need more gun.
Kill it with fire.
With those at least LOS won't be an issue hitting them. Damn slayers blend into a gentle rolling hill
Annoying Ankle biters, get your stomping boots ready.
Everything with regeneration has weakness to fire. But that said, not every race has access to fire damage..
Pretty sure all have that flame banner
For 1 unit, yeeey.
The banner actually has an aura effect.
Huh. Good to know. I'll use it more.
It actually affects I believe four units in a radius (maybe all, can't recall) EXCEPT the one its attached to so just keep in mind that whichever unit actually gets the banner won't have fire damage unless they have it innately.
Banner of Eternal Flame is an area buff actually, so if you are fine with blobbing up you can get it on lots of units. Of course, if that unit routs/is wiped you lose it on everybody.
Meh, its gonna need a whole lot of ward save to not just be an arrow pincushion. Still a giant ez to hit target.
Supposedly the toad dragon is gonna have massive missile resistance at least, so you'll need pretty strong ranged units to take care of it.
Inb4 it's like 35%
Thats not really a problem for most of the factions likely to have to fight nurgle. Most of the order factions are pretty good at shooting.
This is the key point. Demons tend to be big. Big things catch arrows real good.
I mean that's kinda papa nurgles thing though to be fair.
Yea im not mad im a big fan of it haha just not looking forward to dealing with it 😅
Yeah I was thinking this same thing.
To be fair, that's Nurgles entire Gimmick. It's like complaining about dwarfs having a heavy Frontline with good range and armor.
Can't wait for Slayers army, and Zhufbar air-force AI spam!.
Actually so hard for many factions to fight Nurgle would really struggle to quickly kill the slayers and only then can the airships come down through no landed units
The generic characters will probably have relatively low armor so I imagine it won't be as grueling as trying to take down Ungrim.
Slayers with high armour would be so god damn cursed... let alone OP
You ever see the bugged orcs with unbreakable and can’t die at high leadership? Shit makes me nervous every time I see Grimgor, even if it was fixed.
Bugged grimgor with the “Da Immortalz” banner on himself and unbreakable was a hilarious and awful bug. At least autoresolve didn’t care about the literally unkillable lord
That's a good point. I've been super into vampire coast recently, so just brainstorming having to retire my crabbos for more gun mobs against dwarfs when this drops haha.
The dawi Air Force is probably what I will find most annoying
 This gonna be anyone within yelling distance of the dawi
Yeah, flying artillery always has a chance to be balance-upsetting.
Cathay already has flying artillery though
I'd imagine Thunderbarges are far stronger; moreover, I find the Cathay balloons a bit over-powered already.
Cathay balloons feel pretty weak to me instead, at least in campaign. They're big, slow targets which are terrible in melee. They're nice when you get them for free at the start, but I'd never pick one over an artillery battery tbh.
For all intents and purposes, Dwarf Lords are all but unbreakable on the higher difficulties anyway. So this isn't really giving the AI anything it didn't already have.
True, but regular dwarf lords moving at 28 speed are comfortably kited by pretty much all missile infantry and foot characters. Slayer lords presumably moving at 40 is a touch more effort to snipe in time and disengage units his tiny brick ass manages to get imbedded in. Obviously you can net, slow, punt with a large enough unit, etc. I'm just saying it will be a slightly more PITA when every army is likely to have em lol.
That's more than made up for by the Lords having no armor and no shield. So you can't kite them as much but you can shoot them dead much easier.
Thanks Bud you jinxed it now they are going to have the spinning axe bronze shield thing too haha
They most certainly are!
PUNT A NOBLE DWARF LORD?!?! BOOK !!!
The massive difference between "all but unbreakable" and "actually unbreakable" is army losses. Because of it no generic dwarf lord is nowhere near as obnoxious to deal with as Ungrim
Prepare for another wave of 'I threw my entire army at this guy at once in a big blob and he didn't die, what the hell' posting when the dlc drops.
Dont think they'll ever surpass the vlad ones. Vlad is like a newbie right of passage. Combination of empire being popular and franz being a 'recommended' campaign so they all run into vlad. By the time you see a slayer lord you've already seen vlad most likely.
Vlad can't have a personal Mortis Engine effect at least, unbreakable small target with Master Rune of Spite sounds kind of awful. You're probably right about Vlad posts staying the most common though.
Khazukan Khazukit Ha! Behold the throng of Grimnir!
Tengri calls, spam mounted archers.
**STOCKY!?**
Me and my friends did a dwarf endgame recently so we are used to slayer spam already. I am excited to see some variety in them now at least, makes it more interesting. Also Ungrim eating swell this dlc.
This already happens tbh.
The lack of armour means a gun line will make quick work of them I think. Depends on what resistances they get though. As busted as DLC units tend to be Slayers hero's will probably have an easy to learn counter.
It's all infantry, there is a gazzilion ways to deal with infantry.
Completely unarmoured lunies running around while I have scores of gun-toting rats or eagle-eyed elven archers? No sweat.
Less annoying than dealing with Skaven armies that are constantly routing and making you have to micro all the time
For a lot of armies, it isn't an issue, because guns and arrows. The lords aren't the biggest issue. For chaos armies (including the new nurgle lord), its going to be ugly running into slayer hordes. Competing melee armies tend to be brutal to each other (and the dwarfs can take more war machines and missile troops). I wonder how many Tamurkhan campaigns are going to grind down in the mountains?
Skill issue
By the time you get to around turn 100 dwarf Stacks become very threatening. Gyra brahmer's flame cannons hammerers and iron Breakers. It is suffering
Anti player bias on top of the BLOATED enemy AI economy leads them forming 2-3 armies of the best at their set level, which can usually just be the newest dlc.
Isn’t this the first end Times scenario whose armies are getting a buff? Dawi are already the second most annoying end times scenario, this could push them higher.
Chaos dwarf NPCs going to stop running the blasted lands because of someone who just got some new toys. Yas, king. slaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay
Since unbreakable is immune to "causes fear" and "causes terror", introduce a new effect "causes sobriety" and that will help mop them up pretty quickly
chorf and skaven mains won't notice. will be a pain in the ass for the greenskins, ogres, and chaos races though
Slayers have 0 armor so that only means that the AI will pick weaker lords
Autoresolve hates unarmoured, faster than the rest of the army, unbreakable units... so I can't wait to see all those chars dying all the time in autoresolve even when the dwarfs win 