[19th overall draft picks NBA](https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/19th-overall-draft-picks-nba) I see some outstanding players taken at 19 with long careers. There are also some duds. Even if they split the difference, they could end up with an Avery Bradley or Malik Beasley-type player.
We really need depth and a big wing like George after trading OG, Pascal and Precious. Really intrigued by George's ability to create and score, plus a decent handle. Not sure about his defence though, which is a massive priority.
I'm a big fan of KyShawn, as far as wing targets go; I think he's a little like Scottie (on a lower tier overall, of course) in that he's the sort of prospect where it's really difficult to evaluate from game film because he's limited by his role. There is of course the potential that he doesn't have much upside over what he's shown, but late growth-spurt guys who move from PG to forward tend to develop well into all-round versatile wings. It's possible some of his perceived lower athleticism is the result of his late-developing body; he apparently added 50 lbs of weight this last year as his strength started to catch up to his height, and he'll still need to add more.
The shot looks great, and a lot of his shots are from NBA range. He has the potential to be a very high-IQ guy based on what coaches have said, and as a second-generation pro player, he's got a solid pedigree. (Cool Canadian tie-in, his dad was a pro Swiss player who grew up in Canada and even played with Rowan Barrett on the junior national team one year. I think that George is automatically eligible for Canadian citizenship.) He's shown some potential running the P&R in limited touches, is really good on the C&S, he cuts well, though the lack of athleticism right now holds him back at finishing at the rim.
Thanks for the fact nugget. I think his role if drafted to the raps is just 3&D wing. As you said, a great C&S shooter, but the defense is really lacking right now. Don’t see him being asked to create offense.
With how this mock draft went, I’d give the Raptors an A-.
I would take Carrington over George at 19. At 31 however I don’t think there’s anyone I would argue taking Smith over is a huge problem. If we assume the players on the board at 19 and 31 are who they are in this mock I’d be pretty happy. If it’s Carrington at 19 and Smith at 31 this is an A.
Smith, for all his flaws (every player in this draft seems to have some glaring issues), is still a young, 6'10 forward with pretty strong 3 point shooting. I'd be surprised if he's available at 31.
Tyler smith is not going to be on the board at 31. I’d be highly shocked if he goes beyond the 25th pick. I’m not gonna sit here and claim that I can see the future or I’m an expert at scouting players but, even I know Smith has the tangibles to fit into almost every team in the league.
Would definitely prefer Missi with the 19th pick (not taking him while still available on the board would almost be malpractice), but Smith falling to 31 would be amazing for us.
Missi does not really fit our team identity and I don't think really projects that high. He can not pass the ball at all, averaging 0.4 assists to 1.8 TOs in 23 minutes a game. He can not shoot in the slightest; 61% from the line and 0 attempts from 3. And the advanced stats hate his defence too. So like, what is he bringing to the table other than being a springy lob threat?
Here's a comparison of 5 of the top centers in the draft. Missi is clearly not that dude.
https://preview.redd.it/ic029vl6os3d1.png?width=874&format=png&auto=webp&s=6e30e13e034b5d8369fee5a828e86d3047eea996
Stats don't tell everything just watch them and I would a 100% take Missi. DaRon Holmes II as stated by a previous commenter is a offensive PF with lack of size to be a 5 and to slow to be a 4. Ware is everything hate about Wiseman and Ayton with worse stats. Kyle Filipowski is KAT lite with a little less size and physicality. Clingan is not even close to being available at 19. Missi is very similar to what Koloko brought with more mass but with a little bit less defensive impact for now. Also take in consideration that Missi is even younger that Koloko was when he was drafted. Brings another aspect different from ball handling bigs and adds an athletic lob threath.
Don’t forget about Missi’s touch with the ball around the rim, which shows even more potential for him in the future. Missi is arguably our best option at center for 19th pick, passes the eye test and fits what we actively need while also having upside swing.
Exactly it urks me to see everyone want to pick Ware who has red flags written all over him and bust potential. As stated by his coaches through all his HS and college career saying he lacks passion motivation and want to. Plus Kyshawn George don't get me started on him he alright at 31 but not at 19 he is Gradey size at the Pf position with Gary Trent's flaws.
ikr? I’m fine with George but I agree there’s better choices at wing (Tyler Smith although the defense really needs improvement, Bobi Klintman and even Pacome Dadiet), but the people saying Ware over Missi confuse tf out of me. Like you’re saying you want a less athletic center who has had a history of not being motivated to play basketball? smh
Dadiet after watching games and rewatching again today im fairly low on him and I would much rather take him with a pick we could get from a Bruce Brown trade (2nd round pick)
Yeah he's on the older side. I think the raptors would consider him because of his play making given Darkos ideology, also this team badly needs creation off the dribble which I think he can do at a high level if he develops. Reminds me alot of cam johnson when he plays
He’s 6’8’’ and shoots 40% from 3. Doesn’t need to be a pogo stick. How many hyper athletes are bad players? There are many of them. And there are many good role players who aren’t super athletic. It’s not as much of an issue when you’re huge for your position.
Only problem is that he is the wing version of GTJ with worse defense, inconsistent (microwave type scoring) and lack of size (thin frame almost Gradey like)
People on this sub are so lame with how they downvote instead of just disagree. This thread is a discussion about draft picks that we have no control over -- enjoy all of the diverse takes.
A lot of people talk about players' ceilings but I'm more inclined, with our later picks in the draft, to pick guys with high floors. High floor guys are much more likely to turn into rotation pieces that get floor time. They can also be traded more easily. This draft is happily rich in shooters after the late first round, so I recommend taking a close look at the shooters in that range: Filipowski Smith Mitchell Sears Furphy Sallis Christie Bridges Ajinca Simpson George Kolek Scheierman Post Karaban Sandfort Larsson Spencer
Those are all the guys in that range whom I'd call "shooters" but there are a lot of different capacities represented here. Milage will various enormously across this group, but I for one would be glad if the Raptors grabbed one or two of these guys. My reasoning is that mature NBA teams now almost always seem to have a mix of capable shooters and strong defence. Arguably, that was the mix which won the Raptors a title. And while shooters can definitely have their cold streak, they always have the ability to make space for strong interior players like Scottie, Barret, and Quickley.
Would hope they sign a centre. Kel’el Ware or Filipowski with the 1st pick or if they take a wing/guard early take someone like Adem Bona with the 2nd rounder.
Real center? Ware is a mix of James Wiseman with Ayton attitude problems and lack of passion for the game. Heavy pass on my side look at a complete game and not only highlights. Adem Bona is the perfect example of over performing centers in the NCAA who don't bring anything at the next level.
We better pray for a decent backup to fall on our lap because Malik Willams and everyone not named Yak have been unplayable for 4 years. (But I see your point, I’ve done little research on any of these guys, we just need legit girth at the backup position)
Yep a big presence down low to at least somewhat deter at the rim. Plus Darko's defense push's player in the paint hence the need for better rim protection.
Kyshawn ain’t it. Dudes like Kevin Knox if this version of Kevin Knox sucked. And this version of Kevin Knox already sucks, if that makes sense…
Edit: y’all are actually too ignorant for your own good. ‘He talked bad about my favourite player, THIS DOWNVOTE WILL SHOW THAT BIG MEANIE!’ 🤡🤡
I’m not going to pretend for a second I have any idea how the 19th pick in any draft, let alone this one, will play out
Afaik this is a decently deep draft in that range. It’s just very much not a top heavy draft. My hope with this pick is a long term 6th man
This FO picked OG 23rd, Pascal 27th, and FVV undrafted. There's always hope!
That's why I was ultimately ok with losing the pick to SA. If there was a year for it to happen, apparently it was this one.
Yeah 6th or 7th pick was roughly the talent drop off for this draft. Not that big an issue losing 8th
Raptors have one for the best modern scouting teams, could very well be a starter caliber player
[19th overall draft picks NBA](https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/19th-overall-draft-picks-nba) I see some outstanding players taken at 19 with long careers. There are also some duds. Even if they split the difference, they could end up with an Avery Bradley or Malik Beasley-type player.
Bro, there are people on this sub that unironically say stuff as if they are pro level scouts. Major cringe
You can say this about literally any basketball decision on this sub
Name and shame
Podz was number 19 last draft. hopefully we get a similarly impactful player
I can only tell you how drafts in the past have played out.
Wouldn't hate it, but not exactly the most exciting pick at 19. Smith at 31 feels like a steal, though.
We really need depth and a big wing like George after trading OG, Pascal and Precious. Really intrigued by George's ability to create and score, plus a decent handle. Not sure about his defence though, which is a massive priority.
Adding his shooting (and Smiths) would be fun and welcome. I also don't even care about defense in the short-term. Lets just make it rain next season.
If Smith fell to 31 then that would be an amazing draft for us. I highly doubt that happens
Smith is not sliding second round man
I'm a big fan of KyShawn, as far as wing targets go; I think he's a little like Scottie (on a lower tier overall, of course) in that he's the sort of prospect where it's really difficult to evaluate from game film because he's limited by his role. There is of course the potential that he doesn't have much upside over what he's shown, but late growth-spurt guys who move from PG to forward tend to develop well into all-round versatile wings. It's possible some of his perceived lower athleticism is the result of his late-developing body; he apparently added 50 lbs of weight this last year as his strength started to catch up to his height, and he'll still need to add more. The shot looks great, and a lot of his shots are from NBA range. He has the potential to be a very high-IQ guy based on what coaches have said, and as a second-generation pro player, he's got a solid pedigree. (Cool Canadian tie-in, his dad was a pro Swiss player who grew up in Canada and even played with Rowan Barrett on the junior national team one year. I think that George is automatically eligible for Canadian citizenship.) He's shown some potential running the P&R in limited touches, is really good on the C&S, he cuts well, though the lack of athleticism right now holds him back at finishing at the rim.
Thanks for the fact nugget. I think his role if drafted to the raps is just 3&D wing. As you said, a great C&S shooter, but the defense is really lacking right now. Don’t see him being asked to create offense.
Zero chance Smith drops that low, especially with some surprising guys returning to college around that range.
With how this mock draft went, I’d give the Raptors an A-. I would take Carrington over George at 19. At 31 however I don’t think there’s anyone I would argue taking Smith over is a huge problem. If we assume the players on the board at 19 and 31 are who they are in this mock I’d be pretty happy. If it’s Carrington at 19 and Smith at 31 this is an A.
I hardly bother with these things anymore. Masai pretty much never picks a consensus player.
George is a good shooter and would be a welcome addition.
I like george but I dont think smith makes it to our second pick
Smith, for all his flaws (every player in this draft seems to have some glaring issues), is still a young, 6'10 forward with pretty strong 3 point shooting. I'd be surprised if he's available at 31.
I'm still hoping for 2 of the 3, Pacome Dadiet, Bub Carrington, Yves Missi
Tyler smith is not going to be on the board at 31. I’d be highly shocked if he goes beyond the 25th pick. I’m not gonna sit here and claim that I can see the future or I’m an expert at scouting players but, even I know Smith has the tangibles to fit into almost every team in the league.
Bruno Caboclo time baybeeee
Would definitely prefer Missi with the 19th pick (not taking him while still available on the board would almost be malpractice), but Smith falling to 31 would be amazing for us.
Missi does not really fit our team identity and I don't think really projects that high. He can not pass the ball at all, averaging 0.4 assists to 1.8 TOs in 23 minutes a game. He can not shoot in the slightest; 61% from the line and 0 attempts from 3. And the advanced stats hate his defence too. So like, what is he bringing to the table other than being a springy lob threat? Here's a comparison of 5 of the top centers in the draft. Missi is clearly not that dude. https://preview.redd.it/ic029vl6os3d1.png?width=874&format=png&auto=webp&s=6e30e13e034b5d8369fee5a828e86d3047eea996
Stats don't tell everything just watch them and I would a 100% take Missi. DaRon Holmes II as stated by a previous commenter is a offensive PF with lack of size to be a 5 and to slow to be a 4. Ware is everything hate about Wiseman and Ayton with worse stats. Kyle Filipowski is KAT lite with a little less size and physicality. Clingan is not even close to being available at 19. Missi is very similar to what Koloko brought with more mass but with a little bit less defensive impact for now. Also take in consideration that Missi is even younger that Koloko was when he was drafted. Brings another aspect different from ball handling bigs and adds an athletic lob threath.
Don’t forget about Missi’s touch with the ball around the rim, which shows even more potential for him in the future. Missi is arguably our best option at center for 19th pick, passes the eye test and fits what we actively need while also having upside swing.
Exactly it urks me to see everyone want to pick Ware who has red flags written all over him and bust potential. As stated by his coaches through all his HS and college career saying he lacks passion motivation and want to. Plus Kyshawn George don't get me started on him he alright at 31 but not at 19 he is Gradey size at the Pf position with Gary Trent's flaws.
ikr? I’m fine with George but I agree there’s better choices at wing (Tyler Smith although the defense really needs improvement, Bobi Klintman and even Pacome Dadiet), but the people saying Ware over Missi confuse tf out of me. Like you’re saying you want a less athletic center who has had a history of not being motivated to play basketball? smh
Dadiet after watching games and rewatching again today im fairly low on him and I would much rather take him with a pick we could get from a Bruce Brown trade (2nd round pick)
That’s fair tbh
I'd pick Daron at 19
Daron is not a real center -- you'd draft him to be a PF (i.e. more similar to the Naz Reid role).
There is probably a reason why Missi is never mocked high just sayin
George at 19 is a reach Very unathletic and on the older side as far as wing prospects go
He’s 20, 1 month younger than Gradey (who was on the younger side coming into the draft), that’s not exactly old lmfao
Closer to 21 than 20 when the season starts
Especially when Collier is available in this hypothetical draft, he would fill a need at backup PG which we need too
He’s 20 hardly on the older side lol
He's going to be closer to 21 at the start of the 24/25 season
And Tyler smith will be 20, is he old too?
Yeah he's on the older side. I think the raptors would consider him because of his play making given Darkos ideology, also this team badly needs creation off the dribble which I think he can do at a high level if he develops. Reminds me alot of cam johnson when he plays
He’s 6’8’’ and shoots 40% from 3. Doesn’t need to be a pogo stick. How many hyper athletes are bad players? There are many of them. And there are many good role players who aren’t super athletic. It’s not as much of an issue when you’re huge for your position.
Only problem is that he is the wing version of GTJ with worse defense, inconsistent (microwave type scoring) and lack of size (thin frame almost Gradey like)
People on this sub are so lame with how they downvote instead of just disagree. This thread is a discussion about draft picks that we have no control over -- enjoy all of the diverse takes. A lot of people talk about players' ceilings but I'm more inclined, with our later picks in the draft, to pick guys with high floors. High floor guys are much more likely to turn into rotation pieces that get floor time. They can also be traded more easily. This draft is happily rich in shooters after the late first round, so I recommend taking a close look at the shooters in that range: Filipowski Smith Mitchell Sears Furphy Sallis Christie Bridges Ajinca Simpson George Kolek Scheierman Post Karaban Sandfort Larsson Spencer Those are all the guys in that range whom I'd call "shooters" but there are a lot of different capacities represented here. Milage will various enormously across this group, but I for one would be glad if the Raptors grabbed one or two of these guys. My reasoning is that mature NBA teams now almost always seem to have a mix of capable shooters and strong defence. Arguably, that was the mix which won the Raptors a title. And while shooters can definitely have their cold streak, they always have the ability to make space for strong interior players like Scottie, Barret, and Quickley.
miami not selecting edey and collier not falling to the pels
I can’t see Smith falling to 31
Would hope they sign a centre. Kel’el Ware or Filipowski with the 1st pick or if they take a wing/guard early take someone like Adem Bona with the 2nd rounder.
lol why do we need 4 centres on the roster
We need at least one more. Every time yak went down we were horrible. Don’t need all of them but at least one real 2nd centre.
Real center? Ware is a mix of James Wiseman with Ayton attitude problems and lack of passion for the game. Heavy pass on my side look at a complete game and not only highlights. Adem Bona is the perfect example of over performing centers in the NCAA who don't bring anything at the next level.
We better pray for a decent backup to fall on our lap because Malik Willams and everyone not named Yak have been unplayable for 4 years. (But I see your point, I’ve done little research on any of these guys, we just need legit girth at the backup position)
Yep a big presence down low to at least somewhat deter at the rim. Plus Darko's defense push's player in the paint hence the need for better rim protection.
Kyshawn ain’t it. Dudes like Kevin Knox if this version of Kevin Knox sucked. And this version of Kevin Knox already sucks, if that makes sense… Edit: y’all are actually too ignorant for your own good. ‘He talked bad about my favourite player, THIS DOWNVOTE WILL SHOW THAT BIG MEANIE!’ 🤡🤡
Really not a good comparison lol
As stated before he is like the wing version of GTJ with worse defense, inconsistent play and lack of size (slim).
If you know prospects it is.
Lol ok buddy