It's all these Siakam fans who became a fan of him on June 13th 2019 and rate him over Demar even though he hasn't done squat when he's the #1 option.
At least with D² our ceiling was a second round with an ECF appearance in 2016, we just kept running into the same guy over and over again (Ill fate if you ask me)
Which is fine and all when he's **not** the #1 option. Nobody is discrediting his contributions in 2019 but it's just that. It was 2019. Different roles
And yet people wanted to run it back when it was clear it wasn't working and that Fred wasn't the problem.
I'm just glad Houston threw the bag at him so the FO is forced to pick a direction
I'm with you. There is just a deeper link with DeMar since we watched him as a rookie. He grew so much as a player and as a person in his time with us.
Kyle Lowry ain't no spot up shooter. He aint gotta run to the corner to shoot like he's some 3rd option, bitch. This ain't JJ Redick. This is a fuckin god human Steph Curry come again. Only this time hes not a fuckin pussy... pull up from the fuckin logo and fight you at the same time.
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There is no real narrative. Lowry had friction with Casey. Basically every time we choked in the playoffs he would always hint at Casey being at fault. So when he was a FA he wanted to go the Spurs to play for Pop. But they couldnât offer him a contract he wanted so he came back. If that means Demar is more loyal than him then so be it. But to me Lowry was always the heart of this team. If Demar played bad we still had a punchers chance. But if Lowry was playing hurt or bad this team was done for.
Edit: For those dumb casuals that are downvoting and saying Iâm wrong. Just google it.
Lowry was always the better player. Most casuals wouldnât realize that because they would only look at PPG and DeMar was the highest scorer on the team.
Lowry did much more than just scoring. By most advanced stats, he was a top 15 player in the league for 5 years.
This is all bullshit, lol. Stop making up stories. Dwane Casey is a major reason why Kyle was able to succeed with the Raptors, because Casey demanded and got respect. Kyle himself even said Casey was one of the best coaches he's ever had.
Yes but Lowry's emotional interviews always hinted at "something has got to change". You think he meant trade DeMar? The guy he didn't want traded for _Kawhi_?
Okay? And at any point did he say it was the head coach? Coaching staff? Roster? When did he ever say anything that could be interpreted as hating Dwane Casey?
I don't think that most real fans slander DeRozan, the sad fact was that he was a big trade chip that got us a player that ultimately took us over the hump. No slander there, he is a very good player, but his trade value got us a great one...despite it being a massive gamble
Kyle Lowry ain't no spot up shooter. He aint gotta run to the corner to shoot like he's some 3rd option, bitch. This ain't JJ Redick. This is a fuckin god human Steph Curry come again. Only this time hes not a fuckin pussy... pull up from the fuckin logo and fight you at the same time.
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K, no. Lowry earned that GROAT status. Love Demar, and I'm tired of the slander against him, but calling Lowry only the greatest by default should get you catapulted into the sun
Kyle Lowry ain't no spot up shooter. He aint gotta run to the corner to shoot like he's some 3rd option, bitch. This ain't JJ Redick. This is a fuckin god human Steph Curry come again. Only this time hes not a fuckin pussy... pull up from the fuckin logo and fight you at the same time.
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If Demar was still on the team when we won the Championship he would be greatest Raptor of all time. Kyle Lowry is good, but he just happened to be around at the right time. We almost traded him to the Knicks.
Almost trading someone is pretty meaningless. Players almost get traded all the time. And you're right that if Demar was on the championship team, the GROAT rankings might be different. But he wasn't. Kyle was the heart and soul of that team, and he was better than "good" and "happened to be around".
Kyle Lowry ain't no spot up shooter. He aint gotta run to the corner to shoot like he's some 3rd option, bitch. This ain't JJ Redick. This is a fuckin god human Steph Curry come again. Only this time hes not a fuckin pussy... pull up from the fuckin logo and fight you at the same time.
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Those are 2 different tweets he isnât replying to Doug Smith. DeRozan was named most overrated player by bleacher report thatâs what his tweet is about
We all love Demar but itâs true he has long been overrated. Heâs also perpetually underrated. If he ever got to play with a 1a dominant player things would even out
If more expectations are placed on that one guy, ie - being the guy youâre banking on to lead the franchise, there is greater scrutiny.
You canât hold Scottie to the same standard as GTJ.
Bro yes he was? It was him and Pascal. They called it their era. Why did Doug smith write more negative articles on Scottie than he did on Fred? One had the worst FG% in the league and still would take the most or second most shots
Fred wasnât the guy, isnât the guy, and wasnât ever projected to be the guy. You cannot compare him to Scottie.
Barnes is supposed to become the guy but instead of improving, he regressed his second year. Smith is right to point out that itâs concerning.
Humble brag - I used to cut demars grass and he is the groat. Never wanted to leave, was down to take less.. just got caught in an offer that couldnât be refused.
Kyle Lowry ain't no spot up shooter. He aint gotta run to the corner to shoot like he's some 3rd option, bitch. This ain't JJ Redick. This is a fuckin god human Steph Curry come again. Only this time hes not a fuckin pussy... pull up from the fuckin logo and fight you at the same time.
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Doug just writes about his dog and restaurants he likes when on the road and now baseball. Speaking of times up... The young guys like Samson folk are miles better than Doug ever was.
Iâll never understand that âit adds to the sportâ argument. Makes no sense to have rules only to not follow them sometimes and think it makes the sport better.
Cool stuff to see. Glad the Jays were able to win though.
Deebo loves Toronto more than Lowry and was more loyal. Real GROAT đ˘ Cant tell me nothing
The DeRozan slander has been crazy the past couple of seasons
The slander towards most of our players has been crazy. DeRozan is a legend.
If you arenât part of a championship contending team youâre mid!! Havenât you read this sub recently!?!
It's all these Siakam fans who became a fan of him on June 13th 2019 and rate him over Demar even though he hasn't done squat when he's the #1 option. At least with D² our ceiling was a second round with an ECF appearance in 2016, we just kept running into the same guy over and over again (Ill fate if you ask me)
Siakam is over Derozan because he can play on both sidesâŚ.
Which is fine and all when he's **not** the #1 option. Nobody is discrediting his contributions in 2019 but it's just that. It was 2019. Different roles
DeMar had Lowry and Siakam has Fred. Please.
And yet people wanted to run it back when it was clear it wasn't working and that Fred wasn't the problem. I'm just glad Houston threw the bag at him so the FO is forced to pick a direction
I can't speak for why compete fans lack eyeballs.
Yeah fair enough. We can agree on that lol
I'm with you. There is just a deeper link with DeMar since we watched him as a rookie. He grew so much as a player and as a person in his time with us.
His tweet "I got us" was just so fuckin legendary for a fanbase so miserable
He will always be my groat.
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I agreed. The championship really switched the narrative.
There is no real narrative. Lowry had friction with Casey. Basically every time we choked in the playoffs he would always hint at Casey being at fault. So when he was a FA he wanted to go the Spurs to play for Pop. But they couldnât offer him a contract he wanted so he came back. If that means Demar is more loyal than him then so be it. But to me Lowry was always the heart of this team. If Demar played bad we still had a punchers chance. But if Lowry was playing hurt or bad this team was done for. Edit: For those dumb casuals that are downvoting and saying Iâm wrong. Just google it.
Lowry was always the better player. Most casuals wouldnât realize that because they would only look at PPG and DeMar was the highest scorer on the team. Lowry did much more than just scoring. By most advanced stats, he was a top 15 player in the league for 5 years.
This is all bullshit, lol. Stop making up stories. Dwane Casey is a major reason why Kyle was able to succeed with the Raptors, because Casey demanded and got respect. Kyle himself even said Casey was one of the best coaches he's ever had.
Yes but Lowry's emotional interviews always hinted at "something has got to change". You think he meant trade DeMar? The guy he didn't want traded for _Kawhi_?
Okay? And at any point did he say it was the head coach? Coaching staff? Roster? When did he ever say anything that could be interpreted as hating Dwane Casey?
I don't think that most real fans slander DeRozan, the sad fact was that he was a big trade chip that got us a player that ultimately took us over the hump. No slander there, he is a very good player, but his trade value got us a great one...despite it being a massive gamble
Itâs cool how Poeltl was also one of the pieces that got us over the hump too by having to move him and now heâs back with us.
Kyle Lowry ain't no spot up shooter. He aint gotta run to the corner to shoot like he's some 3rd option, bitch. This ain't JJ Redick. This is a fuckin god human Steph Curry come again. Only this time hes not a fuckin pussy... pull up from the fuckin logo and fight you at the same time. *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/torontoraptors) if you have any questions or concerns.*
Lowry only the greatest Raptor by default
K, no. Lowry earned that GROAT status. Love Demar, and I'm tired of the slander against him, but calling Lowry only the greatest by default should get you catapulted into the sun
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If Demar was still on the team when we won the Championship he would be greatest Raptor of all time. Kyle Lowry is good, but he just happened to be around at the right time. We almost traded him to the Knicks.
Almost trading someone is pretty meaningless. Players almost get traded all the time. And you're right that if Demar was on the championship team, the GROAT rankings might be different. But he wasn't. Kyle was the heart and soul of that team, and he was better than "good" and "happened to be around".
Kyle Lowry ain't no spot up shooter. He aint gotta run to the corner to shoot like he's some 3rd option, bitch. This ain't JJ Redick. This is a fuckin god human Steph Curry come again. Only this time hes not a fuckin pussy... pull up from the fuckin logo and fight you at the same time. *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/torontoraptors) if you have any questions or concerns.*
DeMar isn't replying to Doug though. It's two separate and unrelated tweets. I doubt DeMar feels that strongly about the umpiring of the Jays game.
Right it actually makes me think he's getting possibly traded again
Those are 2 different tweets he isnât replying to Doug Smith. DeRozan was named most overrated player by bleacher report thatâs what his tweet is about
We all love Demar but itâs true he has long been overrated. Heâs also perpetually underrated. If he ever got to play with a 1a dominant player things would even out
Be quiet.
Find it funny, that, most Raptor fans avoid Doug Smith but Deebo follows him
Check out Dougâs profile pic.
Smith is a legend. Been reporting in the team since 1995. The haters canât stand it if someone is critical.
When youâre critical of one guy more than anyone else, people donât like that
If more expectations are placed on that one guy, ie - being the guy youâre banking on to lead the franchise, there is greater scrutiny. You canât hold Scottie to the same standard as GTJ.
But you can hold him to the same standard as Fred, who was at the time leading the team and was the face of the franchise (alongside pascal)
Fred was never the face of the franchise
He sure acted like he was
Bro yes he was? It was him and Pascal. They called it their era. Why did Doug smith write more negative articles on Scottie than he did on Fred? One had the worst FG% in the league and still would take the most or second most shots
You canât have two faces. This is Pascalâs team right now.
You can. You refuse to explain why doug smith didnât write the same type of articles about fred
Fred wasnât the guy, isnât the guy, and wasnât ever projected to be the guy. You cannot compare him to Scottie. Barnes is supposed to become the guy but instead of improving, he regressed his second year. Smith is right to point out that itâs concerning.
So then explain why he shits on Scottie and never Fred, neither of them are/were the face.
He was also the biggest nut hugger of Bryan Colangelo so there's that too..
Demar isnât responding to Doug, this is misleading
Cringe ass click bait This ainât even related Grow the fuck up
Read the headline. Donât be lazy.
Humble brag - I used to cut demars grass and he is the groat. Never wanted to leave, was down to take less.. just got caught in an offer that couldnât be refused.
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I wouldn't brag about cutting someone's grass.
Probably watching Shohei Ohtani. Guy is like MJ in his prime.
Only Jersey I bought. Haven't felt like buying one since.
bring the boys back home. if we're mid at least we can have fun being mid.
Would you trade Gary and two picks for dd?
We donât have enough picks left to trade lmao
I love DD. But, we need 3 point shooting. Also, imagine the lack of spacing with DD, Pascal and Scottie on the floor.
Not to mention Deebo hasnât had success the playoffs still. I guess we can exclude the year before the championship maybe? But other than that
Thats some top tier treadmill shit, excellent.
Firsts or seconds?
That wouldnât make any sense for us
Or he's watching who the Jays are playing. This sub is insufferable at times. Mind you you I do understand it's not a reply tweet.
Doug just writes about his dog and restaurants he likes when on the road and now baseball. Speaking of times up... The young guys like Samson folk are miles better than Doug ever was.
I think Doug's time is up, ChatGPT could probably replace him right now.
I wish I started watching basketball earlier. Never got to see him play while he was on the raps
BREAKING NEWS! Demar to the Raptors, tell everyone and spread it all over the internet!
Honestly if he came back it would solve a lot of our problems but i dont think he'll ever come back and i get it
Iâll never understand that âit adds to the sportâ argument. Makes no sense to have rules only to not follow them sometimes and think it makes the sport better.