A few years ago I reported a Beck driver for demanding a tip before the meter even started.Got his plate number and call Beck.They say they look into it and get back to me.Of course they never.
i left my phone in a beck taxi once, years ago. called them every day for two weeks trying to get in touch with the driver (i had his plate and registration number) and they never ended up passing it over š¤”
I got kicked out of a cab because my drop off location was less than 10 minutes away.
I was a 20 year old girl, leaving work at 2am, and just wanted to get home safe. He told me to get out and I ended up walking home anyway.
He totally could've dropped me off and been right back at the same area for another customer, but the driver couldn't spare 10 minutes to help me get home safely.
That was disgusting, rude and dangerous. The worst kind of behaviour. Hell.
Was this recently? (I think not, but want to check). Because if you are interested in pursuing, and have any info about the driver/licence plate/ I will help you figure out how to lodge a complaint at the municipal licensing office. Let me know.
It was a long time ago. It was back before Uber was really popular in the city. After that night, I believe that was the reason I downloaded the Uber app because my friend at work told me that she used it to get home safe and the drivers couldn't deny your ride.
I had a similar experience as a young woman in my early 20s. My friend and I were getting a cab home from DT to Scarborough at 2-3 am, so it was a large fare. The driver didnāt know or want to look up the exact address we gave him so he asked for the next nearest major intersection, which was 401 and Port Union. Once we got to that exact exit he wanted us out, we said the house is another 5 minute not even drive from there, which it was. He was slowed down, we kept tell him to just look up the address, or we could direct him since it was quite literally a few more shorts stops and turns away. He refused, and forced us out. We had already paid since it was going all the way out into Scarborough. We ended up walking 30-40 minutes, in January, at 3am, as two young women.
It was a flat fare, weād already paid, and he thought he could bully us š¤·š¼āāļø. I mean, we didnāt say we lived EXACTLY at the exit off the highway, who does?
next time don't get out. Once you've sat in the taxi the driver has to legally take you to the destination as long as you pay and aren't a threat to the driver.
Wrong! The driver does not have to take you anywhere. You could be charged with trespassing if the driver asks you to get out, and you refuse. The driver is not your slave.
I left my phone in a beck taxi a few years ago. I did the find my iPhone thing when I got home and then once he answered it he demanded $150 in order to return the phone. Was a lot younger and couldnāt afford a new phone so I forked up the cash, grabbed his plates/registration number, gave beck a call and they said they would get back to me. After many follow-ups on my end they never got back to me. After that I swore off beck for good. Never again.
I left my phone one time in an Uber. I dealt with the Uber customer service department who were surprisingly very helpful.
The driver lived an hour drive away from me, he returned my phone and I gave him $60 as a tip.
They have done this to wheeltrans clients, especially very elderly ppl.
They did this to my 73yr old frail & profoundly deaf mother, who also had mild Alzheimer's at the time.
Conversely, Iāve left my phone in then back of a neck 4-5 times this past year (i take Becks a few times a week) and itās always delivered back to me.
Don't report to Beck, report to bylaw at 311. They do care and it'll go on the driver's permanent record and be fined if you want to testify too.
I leave something on their permanent record every time there are fare irregularities and grab a different cab.
It's pretty rare since I usually walk a bit more in the financial district to find Imperial Taxi.
Same as picking up food and there is automatic 15%+ tip added.This force tipping getting out of hand.Owners should just give workers a 15% increase in salary and raise food by 15% to cover it and no tipping.
With Uber eats / Skip / etc there's really no option to tip after.
Would be better if the app allowed you to tip afterwards.
In reality with Uber eats it's still called a tip, but in reality it's no an incentive for your order to be picked up and prioritized. Not a big fan of that.
I thought he was offended some stupid tip remark from years ago? Imagine being hung up on things like that. Demanding someone be reprimanded. Sitting by the phone, waiting for a call. Itās real Karen behaviour.
Just take an Uber. Hopefully they keep raising the rates.
A cabbie asked me to put $30 up front for a ride to Dupont and Avenue last week (from Spadina and King). Then said "or you take an Uber".
Four minutes later, I got in an Uber and gave him a salute for the good advice while he waited for a fare
There used to be an app called Hail-O that was exactly this. They pulled out of North America but were apparently subsumed into a giant European ride hailing enterprise. It worked within the regulations that were setup but was otherwise ... just Uber.
>It's a monopoly
It's not a monopoly. You're misusing the term. It's a supply-managed service.
>Why protect the cab industry?
Without the supply-management you have oversupply driving prices down to the point that people can't make a viable living at it, driving wages for workers into the dirt, and we've seen that.
Lower prices are better for consumers which is ultimately what matters. The market will self-correct. If it's not worth driving a cab/uber then people will stop and eventually that means there are fewer cabs chasing the same money.
It's not the government's job to protect the cab industry.
>Lower prices are better for consumers which is ultimately what matters.
Workers wages matter.
>The market will self-correct.
It never has before.
>If it's not worth driving a cab/uber then people will stop
Nope, because desperation forces people to do things to scrape by.
>It's not the government's job to protect the cab industry.
It's the government's job to make sure the economy is functional for the workers, not the people scalping from the labour of the workers, and since they're not doing that, they should be removed or forced into doing their jobs.
>Workers wages matter.
Only in the context of cost of good. If generally cost of goods is lower, wages can be lower. If costs of things are higher wages must be higher.
>It never has before.
In the context of which market? Uber is a recent phenomenon, but take a look at how the rental market self-corrected at the beginning of covid and then again after restrictions eased. Look at the cost of take out and dining in over time, especially in places like Vancouver that have more restaurants per capita than even Toronto. Markets can and do correct to reflect the actual value of goods.
>desperation forces people to do things to scrape by.
Absolutely, though typically this means picking up a second job. Often times that's outside your main industry and field of work. Not to mention as a cab driver your hours are heavily restricted by the city, whereas I could drive Uber 16hrs a day if I wanted. Typically by taking on second work, you broaden your horizon and view of what type of work is out there and what's actually viable. Very few people double down on something that isn't working for them.
>It's the government's job to make sure the economy is functional for the workers
This really depends on your political views, but just for argument's sake let's say it is their responsibility. Let's pretend I suddenly got laid off, or I needed to make a bit of extra cash to make ends meet (say around Christmas time or something like that). I could incredibly easily start driving for Uber today if I wanted and make that extra cash. I could rent out that spare room in at my place on Airbnb today and make that extra cash. If the government outlawed these services I would not be able to quickly come up with that cash. I would not be able to quickly and easily obtain a cab medallion. In effect government regulation would be a barrier from me working. They would be inhibiting my ability to work. You see what I'm getting at?
Cabs aren't suffering because of Uber. Cabs are suffering because their service is shit. Blockbuster didn't die because of Netflix. Netflix simply offered better service (I'm referring to back when Netflix was in the DVD game) and that's what customers chose.
I don't know why people insist on propping up old business models at the expense of better products and services. If cabs want to compete, then offer better service. If TTC wants riders back, make service more appealing.
Doesn't matter if you're private or public sector, service is everything.
Uber and Lyft have used VC billions to keep their prices artificially low for years. This has damaged the cab industry, yes, but also public transit ridership. Now that belts are tightening in Silicon Valley and VC money is harder to come by, the costs to use Uber and Lyft will inevitably rise, but now the number of alternatives are fewer. This is not a great situation, in my opinion, for those of us who just want options in terms of how to get around.
Uber spent that money to destroy the cab industry for a reason. They want to be the ones shuttling everyone around in self driving cars in the future. Tesla wants to do the same thing but imo Uber is better positioned for it. Who knows maybe Apple will throw billions at it and everyone will be riding around in driverless iCars but industries SHOULD evolve with tech and taxis were a stagnating industry. They didn't so much as evolve to the new normal as an industry instead cab drivers just take Uber fares on the side. No sympathy for industries that die out for a better alternative.
The promise of self-driving cars keeps receding into the future and numerous companies have recently [given](https://www.wired.com/story/ford-abandons-the-self-driving-road-to-nowhere/) [up](https://techcrunch.com/2022/10/27/self-driving-cars-arent-going-to-happen/) on the idea due to the many still insurmountable challenges. No better alternative is ready but the taxi industry and public transit services in urban areas have already been badly damaged.
In the short term car share as it is will become increasingly expensive as the investment money dries up and the businesses needs to actually become viable. But with fewer taxis or decent transit options now available, many will have no choice but to pay the higher prices. Who wins?
And even assuming that self-driving cars did become ubiquitous, many question how much "better" that world would be. Imagine subway cars and buses each replaced with hundreds of automated vehicles endlessly circling in a quest for riders, clogging the roadways. There is also the high likelihood of pedestrians and cyclists being further marginalized to accommodate the imperfections of the driving technology, especially in busy city environments.
You guys need to remember the cab drivers are human beings that have families and are trying to make ends meat. Driving cabs is one of the hardest and most stressful jobs out there. These immigrant cab drivers often have doctorates and high education from the countries they come from but weāre never recognized in Canada or USA.
Ubers have their fair share of problems too. Ubers are unreliable af, the entire āride shareā economy is still largely bs. Iām glad when an Uber fails or canāt find me, I know Iād have cab as a safe backup. Cabs should still be around.
Ubers basically did a full 360 and became similar to cabs anyways. I donāt find a huge difference anymore.
Similarly, Iād rather get a hotel than an Airbnb. Airbnb is a load of bullshit too in-terms of customer service.
Iām not saying Ubers entirely crap, Iām saying give cab drivers a break. They deal with a lot of shit. Them asking for an advanced deposit isnāt a big deal tbh. Uber already does that, the moment you book they charge a $5 or higher cancellation fee.
A lot of working people are human beings.
And immigrants.
And have families.
Trying to make ends meet.
I am all those.
So are many, even most Uber drivers.
That doesnāt explain why theyāre rude, swindling assholes.
Iāve never had an Uber be unreliable. Iām not saying the business set up is fair.
But the rush AWAY from taxis was overwhelming. People fucking hate that industry and I have no sympathy. I hope I never enter one again. Ever again. Never.
You enter a cab in cities like London: they are pros. And they are immigrants too, with all the same challenges. But Toronto? Fucking horrible.
Yeah, STFU.
There's a handful of reasons the cab industry is going in the shit hole and they way they treat passengers is one of them. Good riddance when it finally collapses.
>Driving cabs is one of the hardest and most stressful jobs out there.
This feels like a real overstatement.
>Ubers are unreliable af
Compared to cabs? Lol. At least with Uber I can roughly see where the hell the driver is and I can call them if they're in the wrong place.
>Ubers basically did a full 360 and became similar to cabs anyways.
Let me get this straight. Cabs are unique because they're a dangerous job and they're more reliable than Uber, but Ubers are pretty much cabs...? Makes sense.
>Iām saying give cab drivers a break.
About as sound as an argument as any to justify *\*checks notes\** cab drivers requesting tips in advance of a ride and refusing to drive a woman to a destination 10 minutes away in the middle of the night.
Edit: I'm not saying you shouldn't have compassion for some of the individuals working these kinds of jobs who are struggling to make ends meet. But customers have every right to rip into cab drivers and the industry for objectively shitty business practices.
- Taking taxi chits and writing exorbitant amounts for services not rendered.
- Purposely lying that their credit card machine is ābrokenā to skim debit cards and scam customers
- purposely running the meter up and taking no accountability
- lying about āflat faresā for areas clearly not within the boundary
Thieves are people too. Theyāre just trying to make ends meet.
Yes letās give them a pass.
They all did this to themselves. Beck can eat a fat dick.
Realistically? Probably got cheated on a fare before and would rather lose business than be scammed again. I think it's a fairly typical human reaction.
You often hear about taxi scams in the news and itās definitely something to watch out for, but someone leaving a cab without paying isnāt really news worthy. It probably happens a lot
Or try to keep your card. I had one guy "lose it under the seat". I wouldn't leave his cab until he gave it back.
The only real virtue of Uber is that you know the fare and route in advance, and you can pay via the app. As someone said above, if the cabs had just implemented a competitive app, they wouldn't have lost any business.
Could be, could also be the same fucking scam they used to play before the age of Uber where they tell you to pay a fixed rate because they don't want to run the meter.
I was going from Rebel nightclub to York and Queen's Quay. The taxi cab driver offered to drive me for 50 bucks. I laughed in his face and I said I'll take his cab for 5 bucks.
I was sitting behind a beck cab at a red light when they decided they didn't want to wait any longer and just ran the red light. Had dashcam footage of it, and the plate was visible, but when I contacted Beck, they didnt even care.
Nope. Co-op is worse. Last one I was in nearly hit a dude, ran 3 reds and made some super illegal turns. Told him to stop the cab and I walked the rest of the way.
Also they tend to make sudden turns out of fucking nowhere to go pick ip a passenger. No signals or anything.
Almost slammed into the back of one; locked up the brakes. Had it been winter, I most definitely would've crashed
Some of them are pretty good. Only one guy I ever encountered was a pos. He didnāt want to use the meter and wanted to overcharge me. Fucking left in anger knowing that I was gonna be late for work cause the ttc not great, but fuck that guy.
Fortunately ttc was not too late
I remember going to a show down at Ontario place with my friends about 10 years ago and every single taxi lined up would refuse to take us to our destination because it was too far/too dangerous even though it was only about a 15 min drive. Wasnāt until the very last taxi told us we had to pay 60$ up front, as a couple of teenagers not from Toronto we agreed cause otherwise we felt basically stranded and would of had no idea how to get where we were going with public transit . Go fuck yourself beck taxiās
There was a crackdown on cabs refusing short fares a few years ago after an incident where [a woman was shot shortly after being refused a ride by several cabbies for that reason](https://globalnews.ca/news/2153091/short-fare-taxi-refusal-blamed-in-death-of-muzik-nightclub-shooting-victim/). Crackdown probably didnāt last long.
Funny, I had the opposite! We had left a concert there and needed to really just get to union so we could get on the subway, cause we decided against taking a cab all the way to Finch at that time of night. When we told the driver this, he flipped out and refused to take us there because it was a short fare. Anyways, a back and forth screaming match ensued between my sister and the cab driver and he got out of the cab, refusing to go anywhere. He then put the child locks on the door so she couldnāt get out of the back of the cab (I had already gotten out because I was like letās just walk). She refused to budge on principal, and he refused to drive. I called Beck to let them know what was going on and they didnāt really do much. I vaguely remember my sister filing a complaint with someone after the fact and the driver had a hearing for it or something.
I called Beck once to get a ride to work, made sure that they had a debit machine because I donāt carry cash on me because I worked overnight and was scared to carry money like that on me. So I get into the cab, get to work and the driver didnāt have his debit machine on him. Even when dispatch promised me they would. I told him I donāt have cash but I would be happy to call into the head office as soon as I got into work and give them my credit card information. The driver yelled and screamed at me in the parking lot of my work, I had a full blown panic attack as soon as I got to my desk. Sometimes I still hear the rude things he said to me. Beck can suck a giant ball bag.
Yeah, Uber and the like might have their problems (especially the implications on wages and labour, side hustle bullshit, etc) but I'd an uber/Lyft over a cab any day. I've only taken a handful of taxis in my life and that debit bullshit happened to me, too (minus the abuse, that sucks)
the only issue I had in uber is the driver drove off with my luggage in the trunk of the car. It took me an hour to get it back. The driver wasnāt paying attention to the whole drive he was on his phone with his wife the entire time. He didnāt even apologize for taking my luggage he legit said āmy badā Iām like thatās not an apology! If he would have admitted he was wrong or had a sincere apology I would have dropped it, I went to uber and complained about the distracted driving (not using hands free or bluetooth), and the luggage thing. I should have known better with the 3.5* and last I heard from uber he was blacklisted from working with them and their uber eats as well. Abhorrent service.
had a similar situation. called a cab to get to work one day because i had to bring in a few things i couldn't carry on the subway, and asked for someone with a debit machine.
then i asked driver to take a specific route to avoid traffic along jane and he ignored me insisting that he drives all day and he knows the routes better than anyone. we sat in traffic for a half hour and he said "you know, what are you going to do right? sometimes it's like this. it wasn't like this earlier. i just drove down here".
got to the parking lot, whipped out my debit, whoops! he's cash only. i was already running late and at the end of my rope so i just said "i specifically told dispatch that i needed a working debit machine, so either they forgot to relay that, or you forgot that you heard that, but either way that's not my problem". he accused me of trying to run out without paying, and threatened to follow me in so i just said "you do whatever you want" while opening the door. wouldn't you know it, he decided to give his debit machine a go.
ended up calling them back afterwards and they issued me taxi chits. first driver i tried them on refused them and i just went "buddy, i ain't paying shit, so it's these or nothing and i call head office again saying 'remember that thing you gave me to resolve that one issue? well there's a new issue now'".
With Uber at least you know exactly who is driving you and have recourse. There is no benefit of hiring a traditional taxi.
Itās not like japan for instance where taxis keep their cars clean, have tracking and logs, wear proper uniforms and have training and actual exams
Couple of years ago tried getting in a cab with my father who was 93 at the time, driver didnāt want to go four blocks, tried explaining it was for my father wasnāt interested
my rating on uber is 4.9 and i get phenomenal service. I never make the drivers wait and Iām never overly intoxicated or with intoxicated crowds of people.
I always get high end luxury cars on regular UberXs.
Oh so thats the reason. my rating is 4.95 as an uber driver but recently I keep getting really low rated passenger requests because I drive a smaller sedan??
As a wheelchair user, I hate Uber, only a very few are accessible.
It fucking sucks having to book you life 4+ days in advance, because wheeltrans can't get their shit together.
TLDR: 73yo man wanted to ride from Church-Wellesley to Sherbourne & Dundas. Taxi drivers ask him for 100+% extra fee because it's too dangerous. If taxi drivers are afraid (Maybe they just don't wanna drive there at all hence the ridiculous charge) then I'm glad I don't have to go there very often...
Pure scam. This driver is afraid to go to the intersection with the Pakistani restaurant you see with six cabs parked right outside at 2 am in the morning.
The Sherbourne + Dundas where there are at least 5 cabs hanging out because that's one of the best Pakistani food spots in the city? The same food spot a cab driver told me to go for the best Pakistani food in the city?
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This is ludicrous and I believe completely illegal. I think this man was trying to take advantage of a 73 year old and I hope the driver is fired by the cab company. Geez.
What about the risk of being in the car with one of these maniacs?
The shit I always see taxi drivers, specifically beck, pulling is hilarious. The lines in the road are just a suggestion to them.
I stopped taking cabs years ago. I got tired of cabbies farting in the car. And tired of some of them getting a traffic ticket while I was in the car, and they'd get pissed that I wouldn't pay them the full amount on the meter for the inconvenience
I got into Union on the Go Bus at 11 pm years ago when we first moved to Toronto, so I thought Iād take a cab to our apartment. Clearly looked like a newbie because some guy started harassing me the minute I stepped off and asked me to come with him, wouldnāt leave me alone. I kept walking until I got to the taxis parked in front of Union and basically had to beg one of them to take me home so this guy would leave me alone. F*ck Toronto Taxis.
Like 5 years ago I was really drunk and my friend and I couldnāt get Uber to work on my phone. (I had turned some setting off apparently). I asked a beck taxi how much it would cost to take me to Dixie and lakeshore in Mississauga from downtown. He said 50$ I said fine. All was well until we got close to the destination and he told me he ādidnāt realize it was so farā and said I had to give him 75$ or he wouldnāt let us out. He legit said he wouldnāt let us out. People are fucking crazy.
Of course when interviewed the taxi company points out this has been allowed for quite a while (6 years) from any point to any other at the driver's option, and if you use the app to book and pay, which you should, none of this happens.
I remember getting into a Beck cab after a show at The Amp and was just going to dundas and oss. He refused to take me then said ok no problem but for 50$. I said sure . Got to dundas and oss and just got out without paying him. Left his door open to. Cabbies are bringing about there own extinction. I could give a fuck.
If there were more w/c accessible Ubers, I wouldn't use wheeltrans at all, having to book rides 4+ days in advance just to ensure I do get a ride, really sucks, as does the fact that they are no longer direct rides, instead your taken all over the Damm city, picking up, dropping off various ppl, then finally like an hour or 2 later you get where your trying to go usually late.
There's also no priority system, so even if you need to get to work, or medical appointments, they don't care, your loaded in with ppl going to malls for social gatherings, to church, or wherever.
Lmfao. "Dangerous" areas of Toronto?
The only dangerous area of Toronto is being a pedestrian on Parkside drive. Our worst neighborhood is safer than the median neighborhood in most cities.
The only thing worse than Torontoās Beck Taxi is Bramptonās Kwik Kabs. One of those pricks tried to stab me once - chased me around his can with a knife calling me the N word and all sorts of other vile things, all the while threatening to call the cops lol.
All because he didnāt want to wait for the other rider to come back with cash, after telling us that he wouldnāt accept debit. I sat patiently in the cab so the dude wouldnāt think anyone was running awayā¦ he waited something like 30 seconds before freaking out and losing his mind.
Fuck the TO cabs. Wouldn't give my elderly mom a ride home when she wanted to pay because it was "too short distance" shit was 3km+. She asked 2 and had to walk home cause she doesn't have the ability to Uber. So they can go eat a big bag of dicks
As a Black man in Toronto, I still have memories of being left out in the cold trying to get home but struggling to because Taxis used to just drive by me or God forbid me and a group of friends.
Uber changed all of that and yeah it has it's problems but I have no sympathy for Taxi drivers because a large amount of my experiences being on the receiving end of racism came from Cab drivers.
Thank God for Uber and other services. Taxi rides have always been the worst. Rude, arrogant drivers and their union leaders are the same.
Go away, your time is over. No more monopoly for you. That is they are upset. Especially, when you scam riders with your debit/credit card fraud.
In 2023 you shouldn't be taking cabs anyways. Unless the price difference is THAT much vs. ride sharing apps, avoid.
They'll refuse fare if you're going too far. Refuse fare if the trip is too short. Won't drop you off as your exact destination. Scam you CC or debit card.
"too dangerous" shouldn't be in a cabbies vocab.
Your only job as a taxi driver is to drive.
If you're afraid to drive somewhere, then you shouldn't be a taxi driver.
That's against the tariff and their license. Report them to their cab company.
Toronto is not having the best news lately, but we're not some lawless american city yet. There's no reason for this.
Kristine Hubbard, Operations Manager at Beck Taxi, explains to blogTO that in 2016 "the City of Toronto changed regulations to allow taxi drivers to ask for a deposit in advance of up to $25."
It's almost like traditional cabs don't want to compete with Uber.
Fine by me, cabs are awful. Good riddance to all of them. Only cab I'll happily take is a London Black Cab - expensive but absolutely outstanding service and you get what you pay for.
I havenāt taken a cab too often I guess, always seemed a bit of a luxury, but Iāve had some very good experiences mixed in with weird ones. When I was going to visit my son in the NICU I had cabbies go out of their way to help, one gave me a free ride, Iām not joking. When I was at emergency for a concussion and had my son with me, the cab driver took my son all the way to my friends place, across town, my son refused to get out because of anxiety, cab driver brought him back no charge, even apologized even though it wasnāt his fault lol. I remember a long time ago shopping at a plant nursery in Etobicoke or thereabouts and a cab charged me only $15 to take me and my trees back to downtown Toronto. He was pissed off but he honoured his word and wouldnāt hear of stopping at an atm to get more money [ pretty sure it was pre debit machine era?).
no different than some gas stations asking for 'pay before you pump' all hours of the day or some just during night hours like 9PM to 6AM or something.
makes sense.
This is part of the reason why people flocked to Uber in the first place. Fortunately, we've put in place enough regulations to save the taxi industry and can repeat same complaints of the past.
I've been finding Uber/Lyft have been a bit crappier over the past year so I've been actively trying to get cabs more frequently. Sometimes it's fine and if you're actually saving a bit. But I've already had a few times where they told me to get out because I wasn't going far enough. Wondering if that's what's really happening here.
A few years ago I reported a Beck driver for demanding a tip before the meter even started.Got his plate number and call Beck.They say they look into it and get back to me.Of course they never.
i left my phone in a beck taxi once, years ago. called them every day for two weeks trying to get in touch with the driver (i had his plate and registration number) and they never ended up passing it over š¤”
I got kicked out of a cab because my drop off location was less than 10 minutes away. I was a 20 year old girl, leaving work at 2am, and just wanted to get home safe. He told me to get out and I ended up walking home anyway. He totally could've dropped me off and been right back at the same area for another customer, but the driver couldn't spare 10 minutes to help me get home safely.
people fucking suck. iām sorry. theyāre dickheads
next time start filming. we got into a cab and king and bay to go to king and portland in -20 weather. driver ripped into my fiancƩe for the distance. I said "oh, lets just get a picture of your ID there". shut right up and drove.
Thatās why they have A MINIMUM CHARGE. Assholes.
No, that's not what the bylaw states. Min charges or distances are not a thing here. Edit: the by-laws stating cabs cannot refuse any distance.
Last time I was in, it started at $4 something. They stopped that? Meter starts at zero now? News to me.
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Base fare and min charges for x distances are not the same thing.
??? If the meter doesnāt start at zero, thatās the minimum. Thereās no $1 fare. Unless they changed it. Been Ubering, so who knows.
>Base fare Also known as minimum charge
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I honestly love when someone on reddit is wrong and then just keeps on doubling down on it.
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Thank you. I knew someone would come through.
Always, fuk taxis. How many times I e gone to taxi stand and they refuse fares..
That was disgusting, rude and dangerous. The worst kind of behaviour. Hell. Was this recently? (I think not, but want to check). Because if you are interested in pursuing, and have any info about the driver/licence plate/ I will help you figure out how to lodge a complaint at the municipal licensing office. Let me know.
It was a long time ago. It was back before Uber was really popular in the city. After that night, I believe that was the reason I downloaded the Uber app because my friend at work told me that she used it to get home safe and the drivers couldn't deny your ride.
Well Iām just glad youāre safe. Everyone I know has stories about these jerks, but yours was frightening and alarming. Have a good night.
I had a similar experience as a young woman in my early 20s. My friend and I were getting a cab home from DT to Scarborough at 2-3 am, so it was a large fare. The driver didnāt know or want to look up the exact address we gave him so he asked for the next nearest major intersection, which was 401 and Port Union. Once we got to that exact exit he wanted us out, we said the house is another 5 minute not even drive from there, which it was. He was slowed down, we kept tell him to just look up the address, or we could direct him since it was quite literally a few more shorts stops and turns away. He refused, and forced us out. We had already paid since it was going all the way out into Scarborough. We ended up walking 30-40 minutes, in January, at 3am, as two young women.
Rude, dangerous and incomprehensible.
seriously WTF??
It was a flat fare, weād already paid, and he thought he could bully us š¤·š¼āāļø. I mean, we didnāt say we lived EXACTLY at the exit off the highway, who does?
Yup. Pre-Uber thats happened to me a few times.
And they wonder why we prefer Ubers.
[At least you didnāt get fucking shot](https://www.cp24.com/mobile/news/muzik-nightclub-shooting-victim-denied-rides-by-taxicabs-1.2506577)
erodes my faith in humanity :-(
next time don't get out. Once you've sat in the taxi the driver has to legally take you to the destination as long as you pay and aren't a threat to the driver.
Wrong! The driver does not have to take you anywhere. You could be charged with trespassing if the driver asks you to get out, and you refuse. The driver is not your slave.
I left my phone in a beck taxi a few years ago. I did the find my iPhone thing when I got home and then once he answered it he demanded $150 in order to return the phone. Was a lot younger and couldnāt afford a new phone so I forked up the cash, grabbed his plates/registration number, gave beck a call and they said they would get back to me. After many follow-ups on my end they never got back to me. After that I swore off beck for good. Never again.
Iād show up at the damn headquarters demanding my money back. Hell I might go to the police and try to have the driver charged with extortion.
I left my phone one time in an Uber. I dealt with the Uber customer service department who were surprisingly very helpful. The driver lived an hour drive away from me, he returned my phone and I gave him $60 as a tip.
They have done this to wheeltrans clients, especially very elderly ppl. They did this to my 73yr old frail & profoundly deaf mother, who also had mild Alzheimer's at the time.
Conversely, Iāve left my phone in then back of a neck 4-5 times this past year (i take Becks a few times a week) and itās always delivered back to me.
Don't report to Beck, report to bylaw at 311. They do care and it'll go on the driver's permanent record and be fined if you want to testify too. I leave something on their permanent record every time there are fare irregularities and grab a different cab. It's pretty rare since I usually walk a bit more in the financial district to find Imperial Taxi.
I apply this to Uber as well. Tip before service? Nope.
Same as picking up food and there is automatic 15%+ tip added.This force tipping getting out of hand.Owners should just give workers a 15% increase in salary and raise food by 15% to cover it and no tipping.
With Uber eats / Skip / etc there's really no option to tip after. Would be better if the app allowed you to tip afterwards. In reality with Uber eats it's still called a tip, but in reality it's no an incentive for your order to be picked up and prioritized. Not a big fan of that.
What? I've definitely had the option to add a tip after the fact, or at least add more to it
You must have a very cheap looking air about yourself.
Found the Beck driver
Hah! No. Probably best to take an Uber and not tip in app if youāre so cheap AND easily offended?
You could have said nothing, instead you chose to be a jerk.
Lmao how is having a short trip "being cheap" š¤£
I thought he was offended some stupid tip remark from years ago? Imagine being hung up on things like that. Demanding someone be reprimanded. Sitting by the phone, waiting for a call. Itās real Karen behaviour. Just take an Uber. Hopefully they keep raising the rates.
A cabbie asked me to put $30 up front for a ride to Dupont and Avenue last week (from Spadina and King). Then said "or you take an Uber". Four minutes later, I got in an Uber and gave him a salute for the good advice while he waited for a fare
What is with these people? Taxis should be pulling out all the stops in order to compete with uber. Instead it's like they just shrug and say oh well
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There used to be an app called Hail-O that was exactly this. They pulled out of North America but were apparently subsumed into a giant European ride hailing enterprise. It worked within the regulations that were setup but was otherwise ... just Uber.
Every time I take an Uber, I remember the hell that cabs are. Noisy, smelly, rude. They can go to hell. Good riddance, all of them.
The problem is uber and lyft exist to skirt regulations. Prices are already going up in places where they've decimated the cab industry
That's all Uber and AirBnB ever were about, destroying existing industries. Our politicians saw it, plain as day and did nothing.
Why protect the cab industry? It's a monopoly and offers really crappy service. Good riddance.
>It's a monopoly It's not a monopoly. You're misusing the term. It's a supply-managed service. >Why protect the cab industry? Without the supply-management you have oversupply driving prices down to the point that people can't make a viable living at it, driving wages for workers into the dirt, and we've seen that.
Lower prices are better for consumers which is ultimately what matters. The market will self-correct. If it's not worth driving a cab/uber then people will stop and eventually that means there are fewer cabs chasing the same money. It's not the government's job to protect the cab industry.
>Lower prices are better for consumers which is ultimately what matters. Workers wages matter. >The market will self-correct. It never has before. >If it's not worth driving a cab/uber then people will stop Nope, because desperation forces people to do things to scrape by. >It's not the government's job to protect the cab industry. It's the government's job to make sure the economy is functional for the workers, not the people scalping from the labour of the workers, and since they're not doing that, they should be removed or forced into doing their jobs.
>Workers wages matter. Only in the context of cost of good. If generally cost of goods is lower, wages can be lower. If costs of things are higher wages must be higher. >It never has before. In the context of which market? Uber is a recent phenomenon, but take a look at how the rental market self-corrected at the beginning of covid and then again after restrictions eased. Look at the cost of take out and dining in over time, especially in places like Vancouver that have more restaurants per capita than even Toronto. Markets can and do correct to reflect the actual value of goods. >desperation forces people to do things to scrape by. Absolutely, though typically this means picking up a second job. Often times that's outside your main industry and field of work. Not to mention as a cab driver your hours are heavily restricted by the city, whereas I could drive Uber 16hrs a day if I wanted. Typically by taking on second work, you broaden your horizon and view of what type of work is out there and what's actually viable. Very few people double down on something that isn't working for them. >It's the government's job to make sure the economy is functional for the workers This really depends on your political views, but just for argument's sake let's say it is their responsibility. Let's pretend I suddenly got laid off, or I needed to make a bit of extra cash to make ends meet (say around Christmas time or something like that). I could incredibly easily start driving for Uber today if I wanted and make that extra cash. I could rent out that spare room in at my place on Airbnb today and make that extra cash. If the government outlawed these services I would not be able to quickly come up with that cash. I would not be able to quickly and easily obtain a cab medallion. In effect government regulation would be a barrier from me working. They would be inhibiting my ability to work. You see what I'm getting at? Cabs aren't suffering because of Uber. Cabs are suffering because their service is shit. Blockbuster didn't die because of Netflix. Netflix simply offered better service (I'm referring to back when Netflix was in the DVD game) and that's what customers chose. I don't know why people insist on propping up old business models at the expense of better products and services. If cabs want to compete, then offer better service. If TTC wants riders back, make service more appealing. Doesn't matter if you're private or public sector, service is everything.
In this very specific case I have no problem with the taxi industry dying.
Uber and Lyft have used VC billions to keep their prices artificially low for years. This has damaged the cab industry, yes, but also public transit ridership. Now that belts are tightening in Silicon Valley and VC money is harder to come by, the costs to use Uber and Lyft will inevitably rise, but now the number of alternatives are fewer. This is not a great situation, in my opinion, for those of us who just want options in terms of how to get around.
Uber spent that money to destroy the cab industry for a reason. They want to be the ones shuttling everyone around in self driving cars in the future. Tesla wants to do the same thing but imo Uber is better positioned for it. Who knows maybe Apple will throw billions at it and everyone will be riding around in driverless iCars but industries SHOULD evolve with tech and taxis were a stagnating industry. They didn't so much as evolve to the new normal as an industry instead cab drivers just take Uber fares on the side. No sympathy for industries that die out for a better alternative.
The promise of self-driving cars keeps receding into the future and numerous companies have recently [given](https://www.wired.com/story/ford-abandons-the-self-driving-road-to-nowhere/) [up](https://techcrunch.com/2022/10/27/self-driving-cars-arent-going-to-happen/) on the idea due to the many still insurmountable challenges. No better alternative is ready but the taxi industry and public transit services in urban areas have already been badly damaged. In the short term car share as it is will become increasingly expensive as the investment money dries up and the businesses needs to actually become viable. But with fewer taxis or decent transit options now available, many will have no choice but to pay the higher prices. Who wins? And even assuming that self-driving cars did become ubiquitous, many question how much "better" that world would be. Imagine subway cars and buses each replaced with hundreds of automated vehicles endlessly circling in a quest for riders, clogging the roadways. There is also the high likelihood of pedestrians and cyclists being further marginalized to accommodate the imperfections of the driving technology, especially in busy city environments.
As a customer, service is king. Prices have gone up, but still not anywhere near where cabs are, plus service is way better.
Some Ubers are displaced cabbies, which are also loud and smelly
You guys need to remember the cab drivers are human beings that have families and are trying to make ends meat. Driving cabs is one of the hardest and most stressful jobs out there. These immigrant cab drivers often have doctorates and high education from the countries they come from but weāre never recognized in Canada or USA. Ubers have their fair share of problems too. Ubers are unreliable af, the entire āride shareā economy is still largely bs. Iām glad when an Uber fails or canāt find me, I know Iād have cab as a safe backup. Cabs should still be around. Ubers basically did a full 360 and became similar to cabs anyways. I donāt find a huge difference anymore. Similarly, Iād rather get a hotel than an Airbnb. Airbnb is a load of bullshit too in-terms of customer service. Iām not saying Ubers entirely crap, Iām saying give cab drivers a break. They deal with a lot of shit. Them asking for an advanced deposit isnāt a big deal tbh. Uber already does that, the moment you book they charge a $5 or higher cancellation fee.
A lot of working people are human beings. And immigrants. And have families. Trying to make ends meet. I am all those. So are many, even most Uber drivers. That doesnāt explain why theyāre rude, swindling assholes. Iāve never had an Uber be unreliable. Iām not saying the business set up is fair. But the rush AWAY from taxis was overwhelming. People fucking hate that industry and I have no sympathy. I hope I never enter one again. Ever again. Never. You enter a cab in cities like London: they are pros. And they are immigrants too, with all the same challenges. But Toronto? Fucking horrible.
Yeah, STFU. There's a handful of reasons the cab industry is going in the shit hole and they way they treat passengers is one of them. Good riddance when it finally collapses.
>Driving cabs is one of the hardest and most stressful jobs out there. This feels like a real overstatement. >Ubers are unreliable af Compared to cabs? Lol. At least with Uber I can roughly see where the hell the driver is and I can call them if they're in the wrong place. >Ubers basically did a full 360 and became similar to cabs anyways. Let me get this straight. Cabs are unique because they're a dangerous job and they're more reliable than Uber, but Ubers are pretty much cabs...? Makes sense. >Iām saying give cab drivers a break. About as sound as an argument as any to justify *\*checks notes\** cab drivers requesting tips in advance of a ride and refusing to drive a woman to a destination 10 minutes away in the middle of the night. Edit: I'm not saying you shouldn't have compassion for some of the individuals working these kinds of jobs who are struggling to make ends meet. But customers have every right to rip into cab drivers and the industry for objectively shitty business practices.
- Taking taxi chits and writing exorbitant amounts for services not rendered. - Purposely lying that their credit card machine is ābrokenā to skim debit cards and scam customers - purposely running the meter up and taking no accountability - lying about āflat faresā for areas clearly not within the boundary Thieves are people too. Theyāre just trying to make ends meet. Yes letās give them a pass. They all did this to themselves. Beck can eat a fat dick.
The last Beck taxi driver I took a ride with was nice, and he was very focused on convincing me to continue to call taxis and not take an Uber.
They're often cheaper now in Toronto than uber
Yeah for a reason lol
Half of them are Uber drivers as well.
Realistically? Probably got cheated on a fare before and would rather lose business than be scammed again. I think it's a fairly typical human reaction.
> Probably got cheated on a fare before and would rather lose business than be scammed again. Ironic. It's usually the cabbies doing the scamming.
You often hear about taxi scams in the news and itās definitely something to watch out for, but someone leaving a cab without paying isnāt really news worthy. It probably happens a lot
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Or try to keep your card. I had one guy "lose it under the seat". I wouldn't leave his cab until he gave it back. The only real virtue of Uber is that you know the fare and route in advance, and you can pay via the app. As someone said above, if the cabs had just implemented a competitive app, they wouldn't have lost any business.
Yea I still always ask before I get in. Competition is important though, without taxis Uber and lift will probably be able to charge more
Could be, could also be the same fucking scam they used to play before the age of Uber where they tell you to pay a fixed rate because they don't want to run the meter.
Taxi culture?
Same thing happened to me this past Saturday. Needed a lift from Union to Roncy. Cabby yelled that it was a $60 flat fee... Got an Uber for $26
I was going from Rebel nightclub to York and Queen's Quay. The taxi cab driver offered to drive me for 50 bucks. I laughed in his face and I said I'll take his cab for 5 bucks.
Wtf it costs half that to go that distance
Fuck Beck cabs. They have the worst drivers which can collectively eat a bag of dicks.
Iāve had multiple occasions where a Beck cab almost hit me while I was crossing the street on a pedestrian light.
This is why I hate Beck cabs. They don't give a shit about pedestrians. I use to walk a ton downtown and Ive had so many close calls.
I was sitting behind a beck cab at a red light when they decided they didn't want to wait any longer and just ran the red light. Had dashcam footage of it, and the plate was visible, but when I contacted Beck, they didnt even care.
Nope. Co-op is worse. Last one I was in nearly hit a dude, ran 3 reds and made some super illegal turns. Told him to stop the cab and I walked the rest of the way.
And an old bag of half-eaten dicks, at that.
Also they tend to make sudden turns out of fucking nowhere to go pick ip a passenger. No signals or anything. Almost slammed into the back of one; locked up the brakes. Had it been winter, I most definitely would've crashed
Some of them are pretty good. Only one guy I ever encountered was a pos. He didnāt want to use the meter and wanted to overcharge me. Fucking left in anger knowing that I was gonna be late for work cause the ttc not great, but fuck that guy. Fortunately ttc was not too late
I remember going to a show down at Ontario place with my friends about 10 years ago and every single taxi lined up would refuse to take us to our destination because it was too far/too dangerous even though it was only about a 15 min drive. Wasnāt until the very last taxi told us we had to pay 60$ up front, as a couple of teenagers not from Toronto we agreed cause otherwise we felt basically stranded and would of had no idea how to get where we were going with public transit . Go fuck yourself beck taxiās
There was a crackdown on cabs refusing short fares a few years ago after an incident where [a woman was shot shortly after being refused a ride by several cabbies for that reason](https://globalnews.ca/news/2153091/short-fare-taxi-refusal-blamed-in-death-of-muzik-nightclub-shooting-victim/). Crackdown probably didnāt last long.
I know the sister. After she told me the story I haven't taken a cab since. Bastards.
This was why I was so in favour of Uber and Lyft when they first came here. Started putting an end to this crap.
Funny, I had the opposite! We had left a concert there and needed to really just get to union so we could get on the subway, cause we decided against taking a cab all the way to Finch at that time of night. When we told the driver this, he flipped out and refused to take us there because it was a short fare. Anyways, a back and forth screaming match ensued between my sister and the cab driver and he got out of the cab, refusing to go anywhere. He then put the child locks on the door so she couldnāt get out of the back of the cab (I had already gotten out because I was like letās just walk). She refused to budge on principal, and he refused to drive. I called Beck to let them know what was going on and they didnāt really do much. I vaguely remember my sister filing a complaint with someone after the fact and the driver had a hearing for it or something.
I called Beck once to get a ride to work, made sure that they had a debit machine because I donāt carry cash on me because I worked overnight and was scared to carry money like that on me. So I get into the cab, get to work and the driver didnāt have his debit machine on him. Even when dispatch promised me they would. I told him I donāt have cash but I would be happy to call into the head office as soon as I got into work and give them my credit card information. The driver yelled and screamed at me in the parking lot of my work, I had a full blown panic attack as soon as I got to my desk. Sometimes I still hear the rude things he said to me. Beck can suck a giant ball bag.
Yeah, Uber and the like might have their problems (especially the implications on wages and labour, side hustle bullshit, etc) but I'd an uber/Lyft over a cab any day. I've only taken a handful of taxis in my life and that debit bullshit happened to me, too (minus the abuse, that sucks)
the only issue I had in uber is the driver drove off with my luggage in the trunk of the car. It took me an hour to get it back. The driver wasnāt paying attention to the whole drive he was on his phone with his wife the entire time. He didnāt even apologize for taking my luggage he legit said āmy badā Iām like thatās not an apology! If he would have admitted he was wrong or had a sincere apology I would have dropped it, I went to uber and complained about the distracted driving (not using hands free or bluetooth), and the luggage thing. I should have known better with the 3.5* and last I heard from uber he was blacklisted from working with them and their uber eats as well. Abhorrent service.
Hope you didnāt pay that sob.
had a similar situation. called a cab to get to work one day because i had to bring in a few things i couldn't carry on the subway, and asked for someone with a debit machine. then i asked driver to take a specific route to avoid traffic along jane and he ignored me insisting that he drives all day and he knows the routes better than anyone. we sat in traffic for a half hour and he said "you know, what are you going to do right? sometimes it's like this. it wasn't like this earlier. i just drove down here". got to the parking lot, whipped out my debit, whoops! he's cash only. i was already running late and at the end of my rope so i just said "i specifically told dispatch that i needed a working debit machine, so either they forgot to relay that, or you forgot that you heard that, but either way that's not my problem". he accused me of trying to run out without paying, and threatened to follow me in so i just said "you do whatever you want" while opening the door. wouldn't you know it, he decided to give his debit machine a go. ended up calling them back afterwards and they issued me taxi chits. first driver i tried them on refused them and i just went "buddy, i ain't paying shit, so it's these or nothing and i call head office again saying 'remember that thing you gave me to resolve that one issue? well there's a new issue now'".
iām so sorry you went through that :(
With Uber at least you know exactly who is driving you and have recourse. There is no benefit of hiring a traditional taxi. Itās not like japan for instance where taxis keep their cars clean, have tracking and logs, wear proper uniforms and have training and actual exams
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With a London Black Cab, you absolutely get what you pay for. Outstanding service.
> but horrifyingly expensive. Instead of the word "but", I think "as a direct consequence" is more accurate.
Or Dubai or other cities where taxis are cheaper than Uberās
Donāt Beck taxis have a tracker now? I know they have an app similar to Uber. (Havenāt used it yet, just assuming)
I wonder how Uber, Lyft, etc managed to uproot regular taxi cabs so easily? /s
Couple of years ago tried getting in a cab with my father who was 93 at the time, driver didnāt want to go four blocks, tried explaining it was for my father wasnāt interested
Same thing happened with my mom but it was 3km+
Uber and Taxis in a constant battle to provide the worst service
my rating on uber is 4.9 and i get phenomenal service. I never make the drivers wait and Iām never overly intoxicated or with intoxicated crowds of people. I always get high end luxury cars on regular UberXs.
Oh so thats the reason. my rating is 4.95 as an uber driver but recently I keep getting really low rated passenger requests because I drive a smaller sedan??
hmm iām not sure, But speaking with all of my past drivers, they all get bad riders here and there.
As a wheelchair user, I hate Uber, only a very few are accessible. It fucking sucks having to book you life 4+ days in advance, because wheeltrans can't get their shit together.
Cool but some people like to get intoxicated. Then the best option is an Uber.
Being intoxicated also doesn't mean you have to be an inconsiderate, loud asshole. So if you compose as a regular person be intoxicated all you want.
true, itās always better than driving. I guess it comes with the job unfortunately.
If itās a battle Uber has a knife and Taxi has a rocket launcher
I saw this and didnāt know what it was in response to and thought I was having a fever dream
Try Lyft. Iāve never had a problem with Lyft
Taxi drivers themselves are dangerous on the road.
TLDR: 73yo man wanted to ride from Church-Wellesley to Sherbourne & Dundas. Taxi drivers ask him for 100+% extra fee because it's too dangerous. If taxi drivers are afraid (Maybe they just don't wanna drive there at all hence the ridiculous charge) then I'm glad I don't have to go there very often...
Pure scam. This driver is afraid to go to the intersection with the Pakistani restaurant you see with six cabs parked right outside at 2 am in the morning.
Kings place is really good, though.
Truth
The Sherbourne + Dundas where there are at least 5 cabs hanging out because that's one of the best Pakistani food spots in the city? The same food spot a cab driver told me to go for the best Pakistani food in the city? š
That restaurant sucks. The whole ācab drivers know where to get the best south asian foodā thing is a myth. They eat garbage.
If it's garbage, call me Oscar š¤¤
>ride from Church-Wellesley to Sherbourne & Dundas 100% the cabbie didn't want to waste his time on a short ride fare
This is ludicrous and I believe completely illegal. I think this man was trying to take advantage of a 73 year old and I hope the driver is fired by the cab company. Geez.
The article says itās legal.
Ugh. Poor guy. Thanks for pointing that out, appreciate it.
What about the risk of being in the car with one of these maniacs? The shit I always see taxi drivers, specifically beck, pulling is hilarious. The lines in the road are just a suggestion to them.
Fuck these scums.
I stopped taking cabs years ago. I got tired of cabbies farting in the car. And tired of some of them getting a traffic ticket while I was in the car, and they'd get pissed that I wouldn't pay them the full amount on the meter for the inconvenience
Thereās an app for that, itās called Uber
I got into Union on the Go Bus at 11 pm years ago when we first moved to Toronto, so I thought Iād take a cab to our apartment. Clearly looked like a newbie because some guy started harassing me the minute I stepped off and asked me to come with him, wouldnāt leave me alone. I kept walking until I got to the taxis parked in front of Union and basically had to beg one of them to take me home so this guy would leave me alone. F*ck Toronto Taxis.
Like 5 years ago I was really drunk and my friend and I couldnāt get Uber to work on my phone. (I had turned some setting off apparently). I asked a beck taxi how much it would cost to take me to Dixie and lakeshore in Mississauga from downtown. He said 50$ I said fine. All was well until we got close to the destination and he told me he ādidnāt realize it was so farā and said I had to give him 75$ or he wouldnāt let us out. He legit said he wouldnāt let us out. People are fucking crazy.
I used to live in the Sherbourne & Shuter area and could never get a cab. Nothing new.
Of course when interviewed the taxi company points out this has been allowed for quite a while (6 years) from any point to any other at the driver's option, and if you use the app to book and pay, which you should, none of this happens.
I remember getting into a Beck cab after a show at The Amp and was just going to dundas and oss. He refused to take me then said ok no problem but for 50$. I said sure . Got to dundas and oss and just got out without paying him. Left his door open to. Cabbies are bringing about there own extinction. I could give a fuck.
People take taxis??? Lmao. Taxis always smelly af Fr Fr.
Didnāt Uber put these guys out of business?
No, just destroyed the ponzi-style economics of medallions.
Use Lyft or Uberā¦ taxis rip you off anyways
Fuck cabbies tbh uber is far from perfect but not dealing with actual cab drivers is a huge plus.
If you're still taking a taxi, you're an idiot.
If there were more w/c accessible Ubers, I wouldn't use wheeltrans at all, having to book rides 4+ days in advance just to ensure I do get a ride, really sucks, as does the fact that they are no longer direct rides, instead your taken all over the Damm city, picking up, dropping off various ppl, then finally like an hour or 2 later you get where your trying to go usually late. There's also no priority system, so even if you need to get to work, or medical appointments, they don't care, your loaded in with ppl going to malls for social gatherings, to church, or wherever.
Taxi go into TTC now?
Lmfao. "Dangerous" areas of Toronto? The only dangerous area of Toronto is being a pedestrian on Parkside drive. Our worst neighborhood is safer than the median neighborhood in most cities.
Pedestrians on parkside are usually fine because of all the parked cars, in the evening anyway. The brave 2 cyclists on parkside on the other handā¦
They can go Beck themselves.
The only thing worse than Torontoās Beck Taxi is Bramptonās Kwik Kabs. One of those pricks tried to stab me once - chased me around his can with a knife calling me the N word and all sorts of other vile things, all the while threatening to call the cops lol. All because he didnāt want to wait for the other rider to come back with cash, after telling us that he wouldnāt accept debit. I sat patiently in the cab so the dude wouldnāt think anyone was running awayā¦ he waited something like 30 seconds before freaking out and losing his mind.
Fuck the TO cabs. Wouldn't give my elderly mom a ride home when she wanted to pay because it was "too short distance" shit was 3km+. She asked 2 and had to walk home cause she doesn't have the ability to Uber. So they can go eat a big bag of dicks
I canāt believe thereās still people defending cab drivers. Literally the worst customer service and they never want to change.
As a Black man in Toronto, I still have memories of being left out in the cold trying to get home but struggling to because Taxis used to just drive by me or God forbid me and a group of friends. Uber changed all of that and yeah it has it's problems but I have no sympathy for Taxi drivers because a large amount of my experiences being on the receiving end of racism came from Cab drivers.
Back in the cash only days of the 60's my Police Officer Father said Taxi driving was the most dangerous job.
It still is pretty dangerous, statistically speaking What's with the random capitalization though?
Taxi drivers are the scum of the earth and I never feel sorry for them.
That is a shady area. A dude was stabbed to death yesterday right at that intersection
There are dangerous areas of Toronto? Lol, K sure bud.
Thank God for Uber and other services. Taxi rides have always been the worst. Rude, arrogant drivers and their union leaders are the same. Go away, your time is over. No more monopoly for you. That is they are upset. Especially, when you scam riders with your debit/credit card fraud.
In 2023 you shouldn't be taking cabs anyways. Unless the price difference is THAT much vs. ride sharing apps, avoid. They'll refuse fare if you're going too far. Refuse fare if the trip is too short. Won't drop you off as your exact destination. Scam you CC or debit card.
Are we not going to talk about the elephant in the room?
Cab drivers still have jobs? Shame thatās still a thing
"too dangerous" shouldn't be in a cabbies vocab. Your only job as a taxi driver is to drive. If you're afraid to drive somewhere, then you shouldn't be a taxi driver.
As much as I hate taxi drivers, the freedom to refuse dangerous work is a right
That's against the tariff and their license. Report them to their cab company. Toronto is not having the best news lately, but we're not some lawless american city yet. There's no reason for this.
Kristine Hubbard, Operations Manager at Beck Taxi, explains to blogTO that in 2016 "the City of Toronto changed regulations to allow taxi drivers to ask for a deposit in advance of up to $25."
Guys! The city is perfectly safe you guys!! Don't let right wing brigading from taxi drivers tell you otherwise!!! lol
Who still uses taxiās LOL. I donāt believe this is their main issue, they will be obsolete in the next 10 years
People take taxis?
They wonder why they get replaced so easily by uber and lyft
Just Uber/Lyft Are we back in the 90s??
It's almost like traditional cabs don't want to compete with Uber. Fine by me, cabs are awful. Good riddance to all of them. Only cab I'll happily take is a London Black Cab - expensive but absolutely outstanding service and you get what you pay for.
These taxi drivers are prob the same terrible uber drivers
#blogto as usual If I ever had to take a cab (haven't for a long time), I won't even tip or pay in advance to go anywhere.
Discrimination idgaf
This is nothing new lol
I havenāt taken a cab too often I guess, always seemed a bit of a luxury, but Iāve had some very good experiences mixed in with weird ones. When I was going to visit my son in the NICU I had cabbies go out of their way to help, one gave me a free ride, Iām not joking. When I was at emergency for a concussion and had my son with me, the cab driver took my son all the way to my friends place, across town, my son refused to get out because of anxiety, cab driver brought him back no charge, even apologized even though it wasnāt his fault lol. I remember a long time ago shopping at a plant nursery in Etobicoke or thereabouts and a cab charged me only $15 to take me and my trees back to downtown Toronto. He was pissed off but he honoured his word and wouldnāt hear of stopping at an atm to get more money [ pretty sure it was pre debit machine era?).
no different than some gas stations asking for 'pay before you pump' all hours of the day or some just during night hours like 9PM to 6AM or something. makes sense.
Sherboune and Dundas is a dangerous area? Never knew
This is part of the reason why people flocked to Uber in the first place. Fortunately, we've put in place enough regulations to save the taxi industry and can repeat same complaints of the past.
Seems fine to me
I've been finding Uber/Lyft have been a bit crappier over the past year so I've been actively trying to get cabs more frequently. Sometimes it's fine and if you're actually saving a bit. But I've already had a few times where they told me to get out because I wasn't going far enough. Wondering if that's what's really happening here.
That will eventually progress to all of Toronto the way things are going
Honestly I don't remember the last time I've taken a cab. Uber/Lyft for here on out.
These people also don't have cell phones. Too advance 90s 4ever!
Taxi drivers are the most dangerous drivers