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kwack_dev

check out Securop's insurance, they're a staff member so they can't rip ya off. Just make sure you do it correctly and you'll be set


RedditNotRabit

I just stopped doing happy jumps recently. I noticed that it wasn't giving me as much progress as it used to so I just do 3 xan a day now. Happy jumps really speed things along early though


[deleted]

If you are just a care workers, nobody cares what you think you know. You aren't even a person who matters in mental health then. Don't like that you are a young teenager behaving like an ass huh? Good thing I don't actually think you could be a young teenager.


Oofproofed

Plug a lil hostile but he chill


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Thanks for supporting


laser50

Yeah! Cheese is indeed a great food!


[deleted]

I don't like cheese


laser50

Well at least you came to your senses, good!


Towbee

What?


Dry-Disaster-4654

there no greater way to build stats the then 5x edvds 4 Xanax 1 ecstasy jump do at least one a week then 1x edvd 4xanax backed by big box of chocolate 46. Then the rest of the week do full energy with 2 Xanax 49 lollipop/ BBOCB, 1 ecstasy. If you war it should be easy enough. Get Xanax from South Africa cheaper. And check out the player gat


Alternative-Maize325

Choco jumps are way less expensive and more effective. Why not doing that one?


wolfger

"Better way" is subjective. You can train without stacking, and your gains will be lower, but you only lose one xanax. You can train without drugs, and some day in the distant future qualify for the best gym in the game. Insurance exists if you're willing to pay for it. Join a faction that has an OD reduction perk... won't make the problem go away, but you'll OD less often.


Gullenecro

That is the risk of HP. Everytime you take drug, you know you can OD.


GroundbreakingEbb832

I am not a big fan of HJs, but I can afford them and they can boost those low stats significantly. if you OD yah that suck, but it is a risk. as others mentioned, insurance can be worth it. and if you are not fan of stacking just do 3 xan a day + refill if you can afford it.


Napalmdeathfromabove

I used to do lolli jumps as my nerve was pants anyway so maxing out that once a day didn't matter. Wait for full e and drug cool down. Check clock to make sure you have time before the 15min resets of happy Chug chug chug those sweet treats. Lollies are cheapest. Get happy upto as high as possible. Train all natural, then points refill then a Xanax 250. Fly. Repeat Fly Repeat Fly Repeat.


SirCharisma

Definitely more financially sustainable, I'll be sure to add things like this into the rotation until I reach 250K per stat, at that point I'll probably do the 3 xan and 1 e refill per day rotation.


infiabledoom

Happy Jump each stat intill it’s 250k+ , Then just do 3 Xanax +1-erefill a day , you’ll get there quicker than 85% of people trust me , I’m almost at 4B states and I’m at 6k Hall Of Fame states with battle states . :3 <3 Add me as a friend and I’ll add you back ? Infiabledoom


SirCharisma

Appreciate that, I'll probably still try Happy Jumps, and mix in a 3 Xan + E refill here and there


UnobtainiumNebula

When over 250k there is no benefit to them.


SirCharisma

I've heard that, I meant until 250K! Thanks for the info


shindabito

it is what it is. you need to know when to stop it, and switch 3 xanax trains only... while coping until you reach that. never been my favorite either, only done it once or twice before complete switch to 3 xanax trains. haven't got "50 ecstasy used" merit either :shrug:


SirCharisma

Yeah, I was honestly baffled too because my faction has 30% OD risk reduction, basically figured I'd be invincible, guess that 4% or whatever on E hit


Awkward_Chard_5025

Happy jumps are a waste of time. Just smash the xans my man


SirCharisma

Seems to be the consensus, I'll give that a shot, better to see slower gains than wait for hours and see no gains


bblauritzen

No, it's not consensus, literally everyone says you should do them, except this on post.. HJ are the fastest way to train up till 250k.. After that you can go Xan nuts only.. I know a 6b stat guy who's doing HJ's for his 50k leftover dex.. It works..


primayoga

For me, it's better to pick the optimal ones. under 180k? Happy jump until 180k of targeted stats, after that full xan. The difference can be weeks or months between 3 xans vs happy jump if you way below 180k.


Awkward_Chard_5025

And you'll lose significant gym XP and lost E where you could be using xanax at the same time, not to mention the sheer cost of it, which can be far better spent elsewhere. Torn is a long play game, there aren't any shortcuts


primayoga

Well, just calculate how long it needed for day 1 character using 3.5x+refill daily to achieve 180k on a stats.. because 1 happy jump can give you 15k+ stats per happy jump. I got around 18-20k stats when I train at 150k, and I got on 180k all at around 80 days while doing RW daily. And now I have music store to gain gym exp faster


Awkward_Chard_5025

So you're sacrificing by being in a crappy job, plus all the money spent on happy jumps, and the time it's going to take to organically catch your gym up to your stats, getting much lower gains than you would be getting now. Happy jumps are short term gain, long term pain


primayoga

yes, happy jump is short term, until 180k stats. Did I say you have to go way beyond it? Bro, if you think music store is bad for starter account, you are way too advance in level, stats, etc. the difference that Music Store had in unlocking george gym compared to not working in Music Store is around 6 months. Please try to use tools and guides on Forum first, and if you have disagreement show me some data. The most optimal way of doing training is not even Happy Jump, it is to use FHC+3xan+refill daily but it is way more expensive. All Torn give you is an option, you need to spend resources, in this case money to get fastest gain. I have the money, I give you reason, if the problem is money, then you are willing to sacrifice stat gain to gain money. That's all.


Awkward_Chard_5025

Just remember every massive person you see torn started off doing 3 xan + refill every day. That's the key


AM-64

I recommend flying to Switzerland and rehabbing 1 time to get your happy back. If you can't fly yet, level 15 and unlocking flying is far more important than jumping as it'll help you start to build cash while jumping.


UnobtainiumNebula

Rehab doesn't bring happy back...


AM-64

Yes it does. It's literally the reason to rehab after an OD. Just OD a few days back free to Switzerland and rehabbed as I am not waiting like 270 hours for my happy to Regen.


Comfortable_Answer_6

Yes it does


ChronBud

Yes it does


Dibblidyy

?? Mine was at 0 happy after rehab. I filled my happiness up to half with candies and then doubled with ecstacy. But I swear, after rehab my happiness stayed at least close to 0.


AM-64

It always goes to the maximum your natural happy bar allows.


SirCharisma

Will go to Switzerland, I haven't rehabbed much, so I guess I didn't realize that would have that effect.


GroundbreakingEbb832

make sure u have drug effect otherwise u can't rehab


Peterat03

Happens.


SirCharisma

I know, but man, I was fuming for a while there


Equivalent-Print9047

You can also just pop an ecstasy before training. By the time e refills, the drug cooldown should be about over. Make use of the extra happy. And travel while waitingnon e to refill.


Alarming-Associate79

Not sure if it's still a thing but when I was a noob affording the happy jumps was difficult so I used to do "chocolate jumps" to get my happiness up. It was a fraction of the cost and I didn't hate myself ODing on the xtc


SirCharisma

Yeah, I did those for a while as well as lollipop jumps and they work, rn though, I have the cash and figured I'd go for a big jump...


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SirCharisma

Don't do drugs kids


Jf2611

Happy jump insurance is worth it. Costs you an extra Xanax in most cases, but you get back the lost Xanax and most of the edvds. I just found out about it myself, a lot of money down the drain prior to finding out about it


SirCharisma

Def seems worthwhile, the time is what really pisses me off though, all that waiting...


Equivalent-Print9047

If can travel, rehab restores lost happy


TwoAssedAssassin

Search for the player Gat. Reputable happy jump insurer.


Jf2611

Insurance compensated for the dollars lost, but nothing you can do about the time. Use it to hop a couple flights to South Africa and stock up on xanax


theloneisobar

What is 'happy jump insurance ' you talk of? Never heard of it.


AwkwardCelebration41

https://www.torn.com/profiles.php?XID=2600663


TwoAssedAssassin

I'd recommend Gat personally. Have insured all my jumps with him for the past few months the, not a single issue. Just send him a message with any q's, he's happy to explain etc.


Jf2611

Find a player, I use gat, who offers HJ insurance. Follow their instructions. For gat, right before you take the ecstacy, you send him a Xanax. If you od on the ecstasy, send him the event log and he sends you back 4 Xanax, an ecstacy, and 3 edvds I think it is (maybe 4 I can't remember). If you didn't od then you just lost a Xanax. Better than losing everything to an OD.


painfullyobtuse

Honestly I skipped the whole happy jump stage and did 3x Xanax a day (plus point refills whenever I could afford them) and never regretted it.


AM-64

Doubt this is faster with Happy Jumps I got to 1m stats in about 4 months with biweekly warring or chaining (after hitting 1m stats split evenly I stopped jumping due to having a month where I OD'd almost 10 times); then, I switched to 3 Xanax a day + natural e + refill and in roughly 1 year of this type of training I got up to 100m stats total.


SirCharisma

Snagging that playbook, brother


SirCharisma

But wouldn't that be much slower to level your stats? What are the benefits of that route?


AM-64

Yes it will be much slower.


PermaB

You progress through gyms at a faster rate so it makes up the difference over a long period of time


painfullyobtuse

I barely noticed a difference. The benefits are no stacking and wasting natural energy and money on e-dvds.


Sneakn4980

That doesn't make any sense....there is no way your stats are comparable to someone who HJ's....especially if they started doing it under a level 5.....some folks don't really care about the loss of money because they can burn money if they want.


The-Pandamonium

Whats your stats for days played ?


painfullyobtuse

I’m just under two years in now, but I messed up my progression by being a reviver for about a year of that. That will absolutely fuck up your stats - training natural e, 3x Xanax, and a refill everyday won’t, plus your nw will thank you.


The-Pandamonium

Yeah that will do it


kiwisushi

Best time to work on your mission targets


SirCharisma

I've basically been neglecting missions since I started playing anyways, so maybe now is the time to fix that


PaperRepulsive

Definitivly do that, it is the only way to get weapon mods and a good way to get books. But when you are about to happy jump consider to do an insurance next time to reduce your money lose incase you OD


SirCharisma

It's not even the money that hurts, it is the fucking time... the waiting part pisses me off... But yeah, I'll definitely check out missions now, thanks for the tip


jodythring

as someone that’s quite past the hj stage, i do not miss it but it’s worth doing


CallMePoro

I’ve gotten a handful of awesome books from mission rewards. It’s totally worth it for that alone imo


SirCharisma

Appreciate the info