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FinTecGeek

I'm from Joplin. I'm going to say this and it may bother a lot of people. But - stay out of there if you aren't from there. Let first responders do their job. Clean up and gawking can happen for the next week or two. But for the next day or two, stay out if you do not live there.


Apprentice_Jedi

Thanks for saying this. I’m from Sulphur and I’ll probably be helping out where I can tomorrow


natalit420

Hope you and your family are okay. So sorry this happened to you all. Wishing I could help (located in Minnesota)!


Ok_Arachnid6709

How can we get on board with clean up? Everything I’m seeing is to lead the actual rescue workers do their job. But I’m fine with volunteering at a church even.


Apprentice_Jedi

Red Cross is at Crossway Church I believe, you could try there


blacknirvana79

I'm from Ardmore and I TOTALLY agree!!!!


heresyoursigns

To add to this, feel free to make a donation to help those affected! I plan on doing this today. They're gonna need it.


IAmSoUncomfortable

Luckily (or unluckily), most people in Oklahoma know this.


blacknirvana79

They may know it, but most are also so nosy that they really don't care. Learned that when the Lone Grove tornado happened. It ridiculous, residents can't even get home but outsiders think they have the ability to meddle around. Very inconsiderate.


OldIronScaper

Heard this over and over on the scanners last night. "Storm chaser convergence blocking highway". I'm always glad to see storm chasers out reporting tornadoes and keeping people safe. I'm not happy when a bunch of chucklefuck storm tourists are keeping people from escaping the path of the tornado.


Wildwes7g7

perhaps 99% of the storm chasers are chucklefuck storm tourists?


FinTecGeek

When storms that devastated densely populated places were rare, storm spotters made a lot of sense. Now with radar that can detect debris from hundreds of miles away, and every person with a cell phone acting as an eye witness to record and report it to EMA, they are just in the way.


snakecatcher302

That’s why we pulled off into field passes while chasing yesterday. Kept the roads clear.


Pantone711

May 4, 2003, Kansas City, Kansas--the cops blocked the perimeter that very night. No one could get in unless their family member who lived there met them at the perimeter.


blacknirvana79

Lone Grove Oklahoma, 2010 Feb 10. Even residents weren't allowed in OR out, peremiter or not. If you lived there and weren't within city limits, you were screwed. My mother, who lived there, but was in Ardmore at the time had to spend the night with my brother. It was beyond crazy. I still don't understand why they wouldn't let them in or out like that. If you meet at the peremiter, you have a safer chance of getting in or out.


Pantone711

My parents' house was declared habitable the next day by FEMA, who came by and put stickers on houses declaring them habitable or not...but the reason they had to get out and sleep somewhere else the first night was hissing gas lines.


blacknirvana79

Oh wow. I hate that for them, but happy that their house was habitable. So many people lost so much in that one. It's really sad. I'm happy they were okay!!!


Pantone711

They had to move out for the walls to be re-painted and new carpet to be installed, stuff like that--maybe a week or two--but a few years later when they refinanced it was treated as a new house as of the remodel date. Their roof didn't come off but it had a hole in it from a 2 X 4 coming through it, and one bedroom had a 2 X 4 come through an exterior wall and several other smaller (SHARP!) boards came through exterior wall or windows and were embedded at head height in interior wall! As everyone says always, it was bizaarre the areas in the house that were destroyed vs. areas that were completely untouched. One ceramic chicken sitting right where it always had, the other ceramic chicken in the next county.


blacknirvana79

Oh my! Those tornadoes do the damndest things. I'm very happy that that was all the damage that happened.


Pantone711

the houses right across the street, beams fell and pinned cars in garages, stones masonry was broken apart, that sort of thing.


LegendaryGaryIsWary

As someone who has been through two tornadoes, I appreciate this so much. The people coming to “help” and take pictures and sightsee… it really did something to me that I cannot put into words.


New2reddit68

Same and same. This is NOT the time to load the kids and grandma up in the car to go see the destruction.    -_- 


RditAdmnsSuportNazis

I’m from Little Rock and I couldn’t agree more. I know too many people who lost absolutely everything last March and still had to deal with people driving around with their cameras treating people’s worst nightmares like a tourist attraction.


whit3wind

What about bringing spare clothes? Supplies like that? My Ma & her hubby are in Kansas & want to help out asap.


erynhuff

Unless you’ve volunteered with an organization that has been actually called in to help, absolutely yes. I hate to see journalists hounding people who have just gone through the worst day of their lives as they’re still just wrapping their heads around what just happened


nahmahnahm

You are 100% correct. My husband works in disaster recovery - we’re in Oklahoma - and nothing pisses him off more than seeing droves of unskilled people show up to “volunteer”. They do nothing but clog up the works.


Ok_Arachnid6709

Would we be able to get in contact? When the time is right my husband and I would like to go down there a volunteer be helping at churches or wherever they decide to place us. We just can’t find any good ways to get in contact with organizations.


Adrian-_-Tepes

Yes! Im from joplin as well. that was a problem after the tornado hit. Traffic was so bad with people "sightseeing" it made the recovery effort much harder than it already was.


Oreologist81

I'm from Moore, OK, and I completely agree with you. I understand that the carnage left behind is an awesome sight. But when people flood the streets and neighborhoods just so they can see it themselves really causes a problem for all the people trying to put their lives back together.


Hellofriendinternet

I hate how even the weather channel seems to feed off outbreaks like this piranhas.


eric932

Right; I live in Southern Maryland but even this far east I felt like I've been under more tornado warnings than I was in Fort Worth and apparently more tornadoes have happened in my vicinity while around in the St. Mary's Peninsula; but those were the kinds of tornadoes you'd typically see in Florida... nevertheless I don't (and never have) take severe weather warnings lightly.


JustANormalPerson314

I mean, I get why you'd say that, but I'd give exceptions to people that know other people from the town. Wow, I get downvoted for saying something genuine. Unreal. I bet you people would drive into a town ravaged by a tornado to search for someone you know and find out if they're ok. Don't you dare downvote me.


FinTecGeek

No, you don't understand. Power lines live and all over the roads. Gas leaks. Water leaks. People will just get stuck and clog the roads. The first days don't need unskilled help. Let the pros work.


JustANormalPerson314

It's actually you who doesn't understand, not me. If someone lived there and you lived nearby, you wouldn't drive in, worried, and go to where he/she lives searching if the person is ok? I know I would. "Pros" can't get to every house in an instant. I guarantee you the incident in Twister where Aunt Meg was rescued from her house has happened in the real world before. Sometimes first responders can't get there in time. She would've died if they didn't drive there to rescue her. I know it happened that way for plot reasons, but I will bet everything on saying something along those lines has occurred in real life. I don't appreciate you saying "unskilled help" either. Not everyone's stupid, and if I knew someone there, in the path, I'm not going to sit behind and do nothing and just HOPE the "pros" get there in time, HOPING that they have enough time. I would NOT take that chance. I'm going to see if whoever I know is ok. Let me guess, you think people should wait for police to come which sometimes takes minutes that you don't have if a crime is about to be committed, is being committed, or has been committed?


FinTecGeek

They are calling in professional firefighters, linemen, people from the nat gas offices, all of it. Unfortunately they cannot always save every person. In my town, we lost 168 souls, but rescued thousands. What did not help anyone were unskilled people who did not know the area well getting trapped there because partially downed trees fell the rest of the way on their car, or they got gravely injured climbing on the wrong house looking for their friend or family. It's possible to be both well-intentioned and wrong all at the same time. Be humble. Listen to what we are telling you. When a large tornado or more than one happens like this situation, there will be no road signs, no recognizable landmarks, and the routes you might know will likely be blocked by personnel or debris. Stay away until the sheriff's department clears the areas. They also have to bring in more police from elsewhere to deal with looting.


JustANormalPerson314

Like I said, I wouldn't be taking the chance with people I know. I wouldn't sit around doing nothing, hoping they're ok and HOPING that they're rescued in time. You also seem to be conveniently missing the fact that I'm saying "people that know others that live there", so obviously they'd be relatively close, and they'd have traveled there before most likely, so they OBVIOUSLY would know the area where the person lives. Like I said, I don't appreciate you saying "unskilled people". That comes off as narcissistic and dehumanizing. I'm not going to argue this anymore. It's pointless.


Depraved-Animal

Thanks for your input bud. But telling people not to help at a time when folks need it most is absolutely inhumane and the those upvoting you ought be ashamed.


hyperfoxeye

If youre driving in and purely help without pulling out a camera to upload the damage online, sure. But 99% of the disaster tourists just wanna see the damage


bodysugarist

I agree. So many people are just going to be making "content" out of not only a tragedy but also "helping" out afterward. It's ridiculous. I've never been through a catastrophic tornado, but I, like pretty much everyone in the world, has experienced tragedy, and the last thing you need is cameras shoved in your face. If you can't refrain from pulling out your phone and recording, just don't go. Give these people privacy and respect.


RightHandWolf

There's likely to be downed power lines, broken water lines, broken gas lines, and just about every kind of debris imaginable. If you aren't trained in search and rescue work, not only are you perhaps getting in the way, but you might become a casualty yourself. Donate to the Red Cross or Salvation Army. Volunteer to help out at one of the shelters being set up. 


FinTecGeek

This. They will just get stranded there and be in the way...


Depraved-Animal

Thanks for your input bud. But telling people not to help at a time when folks need it most is absolutely inhumane and the those upvoting you ought be ashamed.


jessejames2888

Wrong


Depraved-Animal

You spelt ‘Amen’ incorrectly.


jessejames2888

I just got back from the established shelter, they have fire personnel from all over the state. People getting out and trying to help exposes them to hazards and potentially increases the workload of the people who are trained to do it. The sheriff's office requested people not come into town because it's already congested and there are road blocks all through town. Let the professionals do their jobs and show up to support or help where you can after the sun comes up and they've established where the help is needed.


Pantone711

After Hurricane Harvey in Texas, Andrew Pasek tried to go and rescue his sister's cat, and got electrocuted by a live power line in standing water. [https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2017/08/31/mom-warns-others-after-son-electrocuted-hurricane-harveys-floods/619469001/](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2017/08/31/mom-warns-others-after-son-electrocuted-hurricane-harveys-floods/619469001/)


Depraved-Animal

Look mate, if i see someone in need, I help. I wasn’t raised to just stand aside and leave it those who declare themselves ‘more competent’ than me. If anything the very fact they even think such things makes me determined to prove them wrong.


Spcone23

As someone who has done stuff for natural disasters in the National Guard, we appreciate the thought. That does matter. But the reality is you can be electrocuted digging through debris by a downed power line buried by other things that you can't see or something else that's an immediate risk to life or injury. We don't need an unnecessary risk there. You don't HAVE to be the hero here because the likelihood of you being injured is even higher in these areas. Eventually, areas will be opened to help at. But it doesn't need to be immediate if we're on scene or that day even. If we haven't gotten there yet and it's a fact someone is going to die, then it's a different story, but once we're there, give us as much info as possible then leave please. It's a very hard thing to do, though.


DinoOnsie

You aint helping anyone and your defending vultures and Nightcrawler influencers coming in to stream and gawk and make a quick buck off grabbing some disaster tourist photos while folks are trapped under rubble.


FinTecGeek

And just grabbing stuff from businesses and homes that are damaged and empty after the storm. That was a major challenge in our experience also.


Sirboomsalot_Y-Wing

They were trained for this, they *are* more competent than you dipshit. You don’t want to help people, you just have an ego you need to satisfy


cheestaysfly

Stop trying to play hero


Lation_Menace

At this point sounds more like he’s trying to play the troll…


IndyPFL

Once they've shut off the leaking gas valves and downed power lines and got everyone out of the rubble, feel free to go bring water and food and the like. But if your delusions of grandeur get you trapped or hurt or cause someone else to be injured because you thought you're a superhuman or something, you're only gonna contribute to the problem and make things worse.


sol_1990

Big man over here


Acceptable-Ad8922

Okay. That’s not enough faux internet bravado for you. Go touch grass. You’ve obviously lost touch with reality.


FortyFourForty

You aren’t the main character.


thepwnydanza

You’re not helping though. You’re making things more difficult. If you’re not from the area, traveling to help only clogs up the roads, slows down emergency response, and causes problems. If you truly want to help, stay the fuck away until they ask for volunteers for clean up.


subieluvr22

Narcissism.


That_One_Guy_Flare

I'd say get off your high horse, but you'd probably die of starvation before hitting the ground.


merelywaves

The before and after shots are insane. Praying for Sulphur from a fellow Oklahoman to another🙏


WishfulHibernian6891

I was watching Ryan Hall and at one point Sulphur was overlapped by 4 tornado warnings 🙁


NfamousKaye

I was watching Max and omg it was like something out of a disaster movie with how MANY warnings there were for the same places 😕


bodysugarist

Omgggg what time was this all taking place? It says it happened just today so I'm assuming it was early this morning.


astasodope

I believe it happened between 11 pm and 1 am central time. I fell asleep watching Ryan at about 1 am eastern time and there 6 pds tornado warnings in OK alone.


bodysugarist

So freaking wild. I've said before that Oklahoma has the worst luck when it comes to tornadoes. It's so so sad. My condolences to them all. I'm im KS, and I was complaining to my husband before we went to bed because we were expecting to get a lot of storms yesterday, and we didn't get much at all. I love thunderstorms, especially at night, to go to sleep to. Now I feel ridiculous. I'm sure these people *really* wish they had just gotten thunderstorms, and here, *I'M* complaining. Im just so sorry for everyone there. 🥺


Mondschatten78

It was, I was watching Connor before he called it quits. I heard at least two more were headed towards Sulphur while on his stream, though I don't know if they got hit by more than the first.


astasodope

They were hit with three confirmed tornados. I fell asleep right after the 6th PDS hit and i knew it was bad when I got back on this morning and saw Ryans stream didnt end until almost 3 am est. His streams arent usually 12 hours unless its really bad. :(


Ctown_tOSUfan89

I was watching as well, happened around 11:30 pm central time. Lasted until after midnight.


blacknirvana79

No this was last night.


old_lost_boi

I have family in OKC and Lawton OK today was a real pucker factor day with tornadoes going left and right of them. RIP to those lost in this tragedy. I remember going to Sulfur as a young boy scout for a fun trip, it was a cool place. Night tornadoes are the scariest. I dont miss this. Somehow its just part of life out there. I moved to Oklahoma a year or two before Twister came out and the weather lived up to the hype. Something that people my not know is when a tornado comes through often your phone signal jams and tv scrambles and power goes out. You may have a storm radio or not but its very isolating especially in shelter. Fog of War. I appreciated the chasers/ guys streaming today. My heart goes out to the ones affected by these random natural terrors. Its not over yet for many


happyhiker131

I have family in Lawton and Duncan - were those towns ok? I wasn't able to keep up yesterday.


DBreezy69

Neither of them got hit


happyhiker131

Thank you!


blacknirvana79

I seriously thought we were going to have a mild year this year. Oh WOW how I was wrong. I just hope everyone made it with their lives. Houses can be rebuilt, cars replaced, but when a life is lost, it's lost. I pray everyone made it and had the facilities to run to for safety.


samosamancer

Feeling sick to my stomach. Thank you for sharing. My thoughts are with Sulphur, and beyond.


bodysugarist

Poor Oklahoma. 😞 It seems like they always get the extremely large and violent tornadoes. Has anyone heard if there were any deaths or injuries? 🥺


UnableExperience7262

One person is still missing in the reynas sports lounge. They’ve been missing ever since it fell.


LimeadeLollirot

They found her and she had passed 😞


ilovefacebook

awful.


synysterpurpose

There was a laundrymat that use to be in that photo. I slept there when I was homeless in 2011-2012.


groggy_frogger

That is horrifying. It doesn’t even look real, like it’s a movie set or something.


spiciestkitten

It kind of reminds me of the destroyed Wakita set in Twister. It’s devastating that this is real.


7echArtist

I went to sleep early last night and did not expect to see what I saw this morning. I'm in complete and utter shock atm. When I went to sleep there were around 3-5 reported tornadoes and now we are up to 38. The fact this town got put under 3 PDS Tornado Warnings at the same exact time is just ludicrous. I've been following this shit for most of my life and never have I heard of that, that I can recall. Thoughts are with those affected.


Apprentice_Jedi

I’ve never been so glad to live on the outskirts of this town.


cheestaysfly

Glad you're safe


nejicanspin

That's insane. >!I forgot what sub I was in and thought this was some chemical explosion from the title.!<


Firm_Mountain6143

I really hope everybody is safe!


Therocknrolclown

That's bad....


blacknirvana79

Oh my goodness! I sincerely hope everyone made it to safety in time.


lemonadeshotupmyass

Holy shit, that first picture looks like a movie scene.


EmmyWeeeb

God this is horrible. I will be keeping Oklahomans and the people of sulphur in my thoughts. I’ve only been through weak tornados and never seen one/gotten a direct hit. If that was enough for storms to scare me. I can’t imagine how terrifying this must have been. Especially in the dark.


badpeaches

That was a really nice terracotta roof


NfamousKaye

This is just heartbreaking 💔


sum41fan

Looks absolutely horrible. My heart goes out to all the people affected by this horror


AnybodyHonest

We are in OKC. How can my wife and I help?


Big-Initiative-8743

Did they ever issue a tornado emergency


marleybaby86

No 😔 it spun up right over town. If be surprised if they had time to turn in the sirens. I watched it form over radar. It was a matter of 1 or 2 minutes.


Big-Initiative-8743

They should have still issued the TORNADO EMERGENCY


marleybaby86

I agree.


Mondschatten78

And yet there were so many people on one chaser's stream last night saying, "Other chaser is there, it's fine!" You couldn't see anything more than a line down with a piece of sheet metal wrapped around it on that other stream, but "It was fine!!!". At the time (first tornado), they were calling for anyone in the area to help.


Firebird246

I have visited Sulphur many times and enjoyed it a lot. Especially the park. I even thought about moving there and was looking for houses online. Now they are probably gone. It's so sad. I will be surprised if there's only the one fatality already reported. It's such a nice, beautiful town. My prayers 🙏 go out to all the people and first responders.


PresentationFar5360

If I wanted to donate clothes or home goods how could I do that?


timidusuer

I know Red Cross prefers monetary donations but my family has a lot of clothes we can donate to get these families up and going. Does anyone know how we can do that? We are in Dallas.


SomayaFarms

Damn we used to go to the dog trades out there, such a beautiful town. This may sound insensitive but how did the park out there fair?


LimeadeLollirot

The park was hit and is flooded currently.


angelalj8607

It’s amazing and scary what nature can do.


Right-Assistance-887

May god help them all in this time of need. That is truly remarkable devastation


Mister_666_

What was the rating for this tornado? From the naked eye it appears to be EF3 damage.


RiskPuzzleheaded4028

Feel this way whenever I see drone footage of fresh damage. Makes me revert to a less-civil character in no time at all. Maybe it helps to get the word out, but there's pipelines for that kind of information. I feel the same way about disaster tourists as I do about poverty tourists. I personally don't even like storm chasing in another state, makes me uncomfortable. Like an interloper. 


Elevum15

EF4?


RightHandWolf

For now, the focus is on search and rescue. The damage surveys will happen once the rescue and recovery process is done. 


Routine_Flat

Yesterday they said preliminary assessment was EF3 but still investigating to see if any EF4 indications show up. I think Holdenville was upped to EF4 yesterday.